where to get me a cargo bike

mr spuckler

tomasrojo wrote: »

Sold now.

this will either seem like a really random / weird question or else it'll make perfect sense to you!

did I see you on Mespil rd this morning cycling a Bakfiets? if not then someone else is running your plastic basket type lock holder on their rear rack! given I don't have a clue what you look like it was literally just the lock holder that caught my eye :pac:

tomasrojo

That was me alright! Enduro also recognised me out on the road, before Christmas.

CramCycle

cdaly_ wrote: »

Last time I came through holyhead with a bike, the checkin desk said you have to load the bike as luggage but the lad at the luggage drop off said "sure ride down to the boat and board with the motorbikes". I reckon you'd just wander through the baggage hall with the bike and out the other door and start pedalling. It's about 1km from terminal to boat.

I done this, I didn't even wanfder through the pfoot passenger bit, picked up my ticket and just walked back out and cycled round to the car/lorry entrance without issue. Once they made me awalk as tehy felt it was too slippy but that was that.

tomasrojo wrote: »

That was me alright! Enduro also recognised me out on the road, before Christmas.

I think I seen you once as someone had a Sam Browne on the Clonskeagh Road, I didn't want to say anything though in case you thought you had weird internet stalkers so I just ignored you.

mr spuckler

tomasrojo wrote: »

That was me alright! Enduro also recognised me out on the road, before Christmas.

I'll give a shout next time so!

tomasrojo

CramCycle wrote: »

I think I seen you once as someone had a Sam Browne on the Clonskeagh Road, I didn't want to say anything though in case you thought you had weird internet stalkers so I just ignored you.

If it's a full SB, not me. I just have the belt of one wrapped around my satchel.

tomasrojo

More about commercial use of cargo bikes, but totally believable result.

https://twitter.com/JamieWClarke/status/1104457392723582977

h/t @IrishCycle

Grassey

tomasrojo wrote:

More about commercial use of cargo bikes, but totally believable result.

"only effective in dry weather" ara ffs. A clueless comment under it!

tomasrojo

Grassey wrote: »

"only effective in dry weather" ara ffs. A clueless comment under it!

And, under the article (I think that's where I saw it), someone says the cycle network is already at capacity, which is ignoring the fact that the deliveries were twice as fast regardless, and deliveries aren't all at peak times. Far from it, I imagine.

CramCycle

I recently read a childrens book for my son with Characters Rabbit and Bear. The posters on this forum seem to inhabit Bears views on the world, the people who post in comments sections of national papers, the Rabbit.

In the latest book where Rabbit tries to imprison an unconscious owl, who appears to be 6 inches tall by rallying the troops and claiming that all owls are 7 foot tall and eat other animals whole, Bear points out that a story Rabbit tells may not be entirely keeping with reality.

Rabbit responds by telling Bear she is rational, calm and full of common sense. Followed quickly by Rabbit telling Bear to GTFO as that was not what was wanted here.

I feel that the authors of a book for five year olds has a far more thought out but critical view on the world than most over the legal voting age.

shortie_chik

Can I ask who people have insured their cargo bikes with? I'm going to test ride an Urban Arrow this week and have been looking into insuring it.

Bikmo is expensive, €400-500, so I thought I'd check out contents insurance.

Aviva won't insure a bike over €1000.

kenmc wrote:

I added mine to the house insurance (fbd), think it was an extra 100 or 150 euro or so, all risks

FBD won't quote me at all, even for basic contents insurance, because I've never had contents insurance before. So how am I supposed to get it if I've never had it in the first place???

Anywhere else you would recommend? Or anyone have a cargo bike and not bothered insuring it at all?

CramCycle

Are you renting? that may be the issue. Alot of home insurers in my experience won't touch renters. I would personally just look at better security.

site_owner

mine is insured with axa on the home policy. its about the same as your quote from bikmo, bullitt cost a little over 6k so i think it would be mad not to insure it, but its a cost i hadnt expected tbh.

tomasrojo

One of the parents at my children's school just got an e-assist Babboe, and she insured it. She's renting. If I get a chance, I'll ask ask her who insured it.

I didn't bother insuring. I use three locks on the bike when I'm out though (ring lock: ART **, Kryptolok Series 2 on front wheel: ART **,
Abus CityChain Granit X-Plus to lock to something solid: ART ***) and have a floor anchor in a locked shed at home in a locked garden. And I can just about afford to borrow the cost again to replace it. If I could afford insurance payments right now, I'd just save up the equivalent cost of buying again. It's one of the cheaper cargo bikes that are still decent enough.

shortie_chik

No, we own our own apartment. Maybe we have to start locking our windows and get an alarm installed, for all the good that'll do the bike in the underground car park!

It's looking like bikmo could be the only option. I think we might get a third lock for it (it has a built in lock on the back wheel and I would get the Abus granit lock). We have proper solid bike parking in the car park at least.

I will try Axa tomorrow, thanks.

tomasrojo

If you're leaving it in an underground car park all night, you might consider an even heavier chain.

There's a good comparison here:
https://thebestbikelock.com/best-chain-lock/

site_owner

Underground car parks are high risk for bikes. There's plenty of visual cover, generally no one around and they are isolated sound wise.

This gives thieves plenty of time to work. There less opportunistic and more likely to just pull a van outside, release every valuable bike and load them via pedestrian entrance or up the ramp if the gate auto opens on exit.

Some of my neighbors a few years back didn't understand how people were getting in, but it was just a small fence to climb to get a person in, then walk in front of the sensor to get the gate to open.

If the bike is going to be stored like that, I'd invest in a tracker. At least with a cargo bike you can conceal it a unlike on a 5k carbon road bike

mr spuckler

shortie_chik wrote: »

No, we own our own apartment. Maybe we have to start locking our windows and get an alarm installed, for all the good that'll do the bike in the underground car park!

It's looking like bikmo could be the only option. I think we might get a third lock for it (it has a built in lock on the back wheel and I would get the Abus granit lock). We have proper solid bike parking in the car park at least.

I will try Axa tomorrow, thanks.

I never had a problem insuring 1k+ bikes when living in an apartment. if you've no joy with Axa let me know here and I'll see if I can dig out who insured me at the time.

tomasrojo

I talked to that lady who just got an e-cargo bike.

She sad that the Dutch Bike Shop gave her the business card of a company that does insurance. You could ring the DBS and ask, I suppose. She couldn't remember the name of the company, but it sounded as if it was a company that specialises in carbo bike or maybe bike insurance.

She's renting a house, if that makes a difference, but she has to lock the bike out the front of the house, in a courtyard of some type,. to a ground anchor, from what I can gather.

my3cents

Any experience of Tricycles here (seemed the best place to ask the question)?

Used to have a very old Pashley Tricycle and was thinking of getting another as we aren't too far from a Greenway and a 6 mile ride into town. Only tough part is that we are 200ft above the Greenway so the ride home will involve an uphill ride. Worst case scenario would be carrying 4 carrier bags which I know the Pashley can handle.

Can't decide really, cargo bike of some kind, Pashley trike (known quality) or cheaper Chinese trike (unknown quality).

shortie_chik

tomasrojo wrote:

If you're leaving it in an underground car park all night, you might consider an even heavier chain. There's a good comparison here:

Interesting comparison, thank you. I think a fourth permanent lock at home is a good idea.

I know well the risks of the underground car park. If someone really wants to steal your bike, all you can do is deter and delay them. Our car park has CCTV and there's security in the development, so hopefully that and decent locks will be a strong enough deterrent.

Test riding tomorrow, can't wait!

what_traffic

what_traffic wrote: »

Cost Total.

€899(argobike) + $205(DHL Shipping) €1,104.00 = €977.75 when purchased in June 2018
Got the DHL Invoice this week for Duty and Vat (2ned Week in September)

So to add to the cost.
Duty €115.18
VAT €203.10
DHL Advance Payment Charge €14.50 (they paid for the Duty in advance)

So in total: €1,300.53

Still not assembled

Finally starting to build this Cargo Bike.

what_traffic

Step 1
Pump tyre and attach brake disc

Duckjob

tomasrojo wrote: »

I talked to that lady who just got an e-cargo bike.

She sad that the Dutch Bike Shop gave her the business card of a company that does insurance. You could ring the DBS and ask, I suppose. She couldn't remember the name of the company, but it sounded as if it was a company that specialises in carbo bike or maybe bike insurance.

She's renting a house, if that makes a difference, but she has to lock the bike out the front of the house, in a courtyard of some type,. to a ground anchor, from what I can gather.

At least with an ebike at least you can remove the battery and (usually) the control display unit. Might be a false sense of comfort, but I always feel that would create a high hassle factor for would be thieves who would have to replace both to sell it for any decent price. An extra heavy cargo ebike without the electric assist isn't going to be attractive for many people to buy.

what_traffic

what_traffic wrote: »

Finally starting to build this ARGO Cargo Bike.

Started NEW thread here - if folks here want to follow it.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057993800

tomasrojo

Duckjob wrote: »

At least with an ebike at least you can remove the battery and (usually) the control display unit. Might be a false sense of comfort, but I always feel that would create a high hassle factor for would be thieves who would have to replace both to sell it for any decent price. An extra heavy cargo ebike without the electric assist isn't going to be attractive for many people to buy.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the black market for cargo bikes is like. I'm sure they're harder to offload than normal sized bikes, so maybe less likely to be stolen, but if they continue to get more popular they might start to be stolen to order.

tomasrojo

I finally got around to getting the Shimano Nexus 7 rear wheel on the bakfiets serviced. Dara in Bee Cycles is doing it. It seems to be ok, despite no servicing in three years, and about 18,000km. One of the cones is very pitted and getting replaced, but the rest is ok. I'm quite surprised by that. I was expecting to have to get a new wheel, as it was making some very ominous rumbling noises.

cdaly_

tomasrojo wrote: »

I was expecting to have to get a new wheel, as it was making some very ominous rumbling noises.

Worn bearings are very noisy.

tomasrojo

cdaly_ wrote: »

Worn bearings are very noisy.

Yeah, in this case, for sure! The ball cage had disintegrated a bit and a ball had escaped it, I think.

Dara says you can't really install loose bearings on this type of wheel because what would be a cup in a normal wheel is just a narrow bearing surface.

tomasrojo

We are thrilled that two of the cargobikes we sell, the G4e from Douze Cycles and Bakfiets Long won the Best Cargo Bike Competition in the Business (G4e) and Family (Bakfiets Long) category. We have known for some times that these were awesome cargobikes but it’s always nice to see a panel of experts agreeing with us!

The competition was organised by Transport for London and took place in July at the London’s Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park in London.

https://www.londongreencycles.co.uk/douze-cycles-g4e-wins-best-cargo-bike-competition-for-business/

Not sure how meaningful this is as a competition, but I've never regretted getting the Bakfiets Long.

wench

For anyone who bought a Babboe City, there is a recall notice for them

Do you own a BABBOE CITY and live in Ireland?
There is a recall going on as it has been discovered a series of frames is not up to Babboe's standard.
If you are the owner of a BABBOE CITY either manual or electric no matter how old. Please contact info@dutchbikeshop.ie with your frame number and we will investigate is your bike due to have it's frame replaced under warranty.

https://cyclingindustry.news/babboe-recalls-city-cargo-bike-models-amid-safety-concerns/