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New, unregistered Irish-bought car from 1976 - where do I start?

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    #182
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    David09 wrote: »
    You mention that it's a diesel. Around that time Peugeot and ford shared their diesel engines. I think it was for the 504 and the Granada/sierra?
    A few years ago I was donated a pile of old stock parts from a ford dealers that was deemed old and unsaleable. Almost all of it was sold off and used up on my own cars. However, there's a lot of old filters and service parts still there in original wrapping that might just suit that Peugeot, provided that it's the same shared engine. Drop me a pm if you want them. I'd be happy to donate them for what's going to be an awesome one of a kind project!


    Thanks - that's very generous - I'll pm you in due course - Probably a few months down the line, but please do hang on to the stuff for me if you think it might be of use. :)


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    #183
    Magilla Gorilla
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭Magilla Gorilla


    Might be a long shot, but back in the day motor dealers "booked" a reg. no. from the motor tax office. You simply rang up, gave the car's basic details plus the buyer's name and address, and you were allocated the next number in the register.


    If you know the dealer's name (is it on the sticker on the back window?) and are sure of the year of sale, it wouldn't be a big job for a willing person in the motor tax office to search the register for you to check if it was ever given a number...


    Note this is not the same as it being ever taxed, but might be useful.


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    #184
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,060 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Surely given the VIN, Shannon can check if it was ever registered.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #185
    Magilla Gorilla
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭Magilla Gorilla


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Surely given the VIN, Shannon can check if it was ever registered.

    If it was never taxed, Shannon will not be aware of its existence. My point is it may still have been allocated a number which the OP might want to check out.


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    #186
    forgottenhills
    Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭forgottenhills


    ratracer wrote: »
    Is that 'rusty old VW variant' a Karmann Ghia?:eek:

    Is it repairable or completely lost to time? That would be a much more interesting car than the peugout IMO.

    I don't know. The Peugout 504 was a beautiful machine for its era (1970s) in terms of the cars that could be commonly seen on Irish roads at that time. My uncle had one and I remember as a child getting a lift from him in his car in the late 70's and I thought it was the bees knees compared to the old Fiats, Fords, Vauxhalls and VWs that were on the go at the time. Although I believe that his car was a petrol and would have been a lot smoother. I particularly remember the headlights being a lot more powerful than the cars I was used to at the time.

    I got to drive a Peugeot 505, its successor, around for a day in the 1980s but it was a diesel and nothing special to drive. They disappeared pretty fast, I think they were rust prone.


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    #187
    carchaeologist
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    forgottenhills wrote: »
    I don't know. The Peugout 504 was a beautiful machine for its era (1970s) in terms of the cars that could be commonly seen on Irish roads at that time. My uncle had one and I remember as a child getting a lift from him in his car in the late 70's and I thought it was the bees knees compared to the old Fiats, Fords, Vauxhalls and VWs that were on the go at the time. Although I believe that his car was a petrol and would have been a lot smoother. I particularly remember the headlights being a lot more powerful than the cars I was used to at the time.

    I got to drive a Peugeot 505, its successor, around for a day in the 1980s but it was a diesel and nothing special to drive. They disappeared pretty fast, I think they were rust prone.

    Indeed, my one, a 1979 model, despite it being a hearse conversion from what was an estate has only 17.000 miles on it and the comfort of the seats and the quietness of the drive is amazing. And indeed as mentioned the headlights are extremely good for a car of its era. It's way ahead of the contemporary Cortina or similar sized Japanese car for comfort and build quality.


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    #188
    wandererz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Firstly decide if you want to keep the car or not.

    If you want to keep it, then contact a specialist company like these guys.

    http://www.majormotors.co.uk/peugeot-engine-specialist-supplier-repairs-and-engine-fitting/

    Decide if you want to ship them just the engine or the entire car.

    Call them first to discuss options.
    That will give you an indication of costs.

    Go from there.


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    #189
    kaizersoze
    Registered Users Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    wandererz wrote: »
    Firstly decide if you want to keep the car or not.

    If you want to keep it, then contact a specialist company like these guys.

    http://www.majormotors.co.uk/peugeot-engine-specialist-supplier-repairs-and-engine-fitting/

    Decide if you want to ship them just the engine or the entire car.

    Call them first to discuss options.
    That will give you an indication of costs.

    Go from there.

    Sounds cheap......:pac:


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    #190
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Are they just a supplier and fitter. I dont see anywhere on the site where they offer engine reconditioning,
    I see where they can supply reconditioned units alright.


    Just copped it now.

    Sounds good...:)


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    #191
    swarlb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭swarlb


    wandererz wrote: »
    Firstly decide if you want to keep the car or not.

    If you want to keep it, then contact a specialist company like these guys.

    http://www.majormotors.co.uk/peugeot-engine-specialist-supplier-repairs-and-engine-fitting/

    Decide if you want to ship them just the engine or the entire car.

    Call them first to discuss options.
    That will give you an indication of costs.

    Go from there.

    Funny isn't it... how we jump on the opportunity to praise 'specialists' from abroad.
    According to Major Motors website, they have over 30 years experience with Peugeot engines (I would at a guess estimate that the vast majority of these engines are diesel units from the past 10/15 years).
    Yet Gowan Motors (and I know some of the staff personally) have been trading for over 50 years.
    A poster here jested that they probably wouldn't have a clue what a 504 was....
    So... why on earth, would you assume that Major Motors would know any better...
    There are plenty of people in Ireland, dealerships or otherwise that would be more than capable of 'fixing' a Peugeot 504.


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    #192
    [Deleted User]
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    swarlb wrote: »
    ..........
    There are plenty of people in Ireland, dealerships or otherwise that would be more than capable of 'fixing' a Peugeot 504.

    Indeed.
    It's a basic diesel engine, a competent mechanic (not an oil change merchant) would have no issue working on it.


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    #193
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Plenty of good old school mechanics in Ireland.
    Home grown solution would be better for many reasons.

    Classic Peugeot owners would love this. Its what we petrolheads live for:D:D

    Try contacting these maybe,
    https://www.facebook.com/205wicklowirelab/

    Remember , transporting,shipping ect would be adding major cost that you probably dont need.


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    #194
    ozmo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭ozmo


    Car99 wrote: »
    If your going to sell it , dont do anything to it , dont even start to clean it.

    Same if you are not going to drive it

    Its worth more, even to just keep, being 100% original - be better to just protect it properly - but getting it running, cracking open the engine, new seals, new filters, battery, plugs, and whatever else - and then putting it back in the shed to go bad again is just ruining this unique find.

    “Roll it back”



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    #195
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    More 40-year old, new, unregistered vehicles uncovered here in Alfa Beta land today!!


    Not a car this time, but two MZ motorcycles a TS 150 and TS 125, both from 1980. Brand new and unused (but seized up over time - a fact you discover very quickly when you try to push the things!!)


    As far as I know MZ were East German and these bikes are two-stroke. I've found an owner's club on google where I will try and get more background and hopefully establish a value for the bikes.


    I've no intention of keeping these but neither have I much of an idea as to their worth. If anyone here can help with knowledge / advice that would be fab. And if you can't, well, here are some pics anyway!!


    (Posting here coz I don't see a Classic Bikes sub forum on boards - and coz I got such a lovely response from everyone regarding the original post about the peugeot ( --- which btw is wrapped up again for the time being due to too much else to do in the near future!!)


    Cheers,
    AB.
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    #196
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    alfa beta wrote: »
    More 40-year old, new, unregistered vehicles uncovered here in Alfa Beta land today!!


    Not a car this time, but two MZ motorcycles a TS 150 and TS 125, both from 1980. Brand new and unused (but seized up over time - a fact you discover very quickly when you try to push the things!!)


    As far as I know MZ were East German and these bikes are two-stroke. I've found an owner's club on google where I will try and get more background and hopefully establish a value for the bikes.


    I've no intention of keeping these but neither have I much of an idea as to their worth. If anyone here can help with knowledge / advice that would be fab. And if you can't, well, here are some pics anyway!!


    (Posting here coz I don't see a Classic Bikes sub forum on boards - and coz I got such a lovely response from everyone regarding the original post about the peugeot ( --- which btw is wrapped up again for the time being due to too much else to do in the near future!!)


    Cheers,
    AB.
    20200210-115908.jpgIMG-5171.jpg



    Were these your Dad's too?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #197
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    Yeah - but unlike the Peugeot he wouldn't have bought these for his personal use - they'd have been bought to sell on.



    He never sold them though.



    He was a hoarder at heart and the words 'stock turnover' weren't really that popular in his vocabulary :)


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    #198
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,065 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    alfa beta wrote: »
    More 40-year old, new, unregistered vehicles uncovered here in Alfa Beta land today!!


    Not a car this time, but two MZ motorcycles a TS 150 and TS 125, both from 1980. Brand new and unused (but seized up over time - a fact you discover very quickly when you try to push the things!!)


    As far as I know MZ were East German and these bikes are two-stroke. I've found an owner's club on google where I will try and get more background and hopefully establish a value for the bikes.


    I've no intention of keeping these but neither have I much of an idea as to their worth. If anyone here can help with knowledge / advice that would be fab. And if you can't, well, here are some pics anyway!!


    (Posting here coz I don't see a Classic Bikes sub forum on boards - and coz I got such a lovely response from everyone regarding the original post about the peugeot ( --- which btw is wrapped up again for the time being due to too much else to do in the near future!!)


    Cheers,
    AB.
    20200210-115908.jpgIMG-5171.jpg

    What's in the boxes??? :D


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    #199
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    Fine Bone China Tea and Dinner Sets!!!

    Very soon to appear on Ebay, Donedeal, Adverts, FB marketolace and wherever else I can flog the things ..... (all proceeds going to the charities the old man was involved in though) :)


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    #200
    Dardania
    Registered Users Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    alfa beta wrote: »
    Fine Bone China Tea and Dinner Sets!!!

    Very soon to appear on Ebay, Donedeal, Adverts, FB marketolace and wherever else I can flog the things ..... (all proceeds going to the charities the old man was involved in though) :)

    Lovely tribute to do that


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    #201
    CoBo55
    Registered Users Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    I thought all proceeds from anything sold belong to the estate.


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    #202
    FFVII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    I thought all proceeds from anything sold belong to the estate.

    OP should keep.

    Give 5%


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    #203
    SomethingElse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    alfa beta wrote: »
    More 40-year old, new, unregistered vehicles uncovered here in Alfa Beta land today!!


    Not a car this time, but two MZ motorcycles a TS 150 and TS 125, both from 1980. Brand new and unused (but seized up over time - a fact you discover very quickly when you try to push the things!!)


    As far as I know MZ were East German and these bikes are two-stroke. I've found an owner's club on google where I will try and get more background and hopefully establish a value for the bikes.


    I've no intention of keeping these but neither have I much of an idea as to their worth. If anyone here can help with knowledge / advice that would be fab. And if you can't, well, here are some pics anyway!!


    (Posting here coz I don't see a Classic Bikes sub forum on boards - and coz I got such a lovely response from everyone regarding the original post about the peugeot ( --- which btw is wrapped up again for the time being due to too much else to do in the near future!!)


    Cheers,
    AB.
    20200210-115908.jpgIMG-5171.jpg

    Would be lovely for travelling up to the All-Ireland on.


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    #204
    Bigus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Regarding the bikes these lads are gentlemen, will sell them on commission.

    http://www.cbb.ie/


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    #205
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,296 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    I thought all proceeds from anything sold belong to the estate.

    Think the op said earlier in the thread his mum is alive so presumably it’s all hers now and I doubt he’s flogging it without telling her.


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    #206
    FFVII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    I thought all proceeds from anything sold belong to the estate.

    OP should keep.

    Give 5%


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    #207
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    salmo is on the ball ..... everything was left to my mum .... but as you can imagine it's a bit overwhelming to have to deal with all this kind of stuff when it suddenly lands on you, so I'm working through everything with her to sort out the stuff he left behind and use it to benefit the charities he was close to :)


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    #208
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,296 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    alfa beta wrote: »
    salmo is on the ball ..... everything was left to my mum .... but as you can imagine it's a bit overwhelming to have to deal with all this kind of stuff when it suddenly lands on you, so I'm working through everything with her to sort out the stuff he left behind and use it to benefit the charities he was close to :)

    There’s an episode of one of those shows wherre people come in and mooch through your stuff on daytime tv in that shed


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    #209
    brav
    Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭brav


    salmocab wrote: »
    There’s an episode of one of those shows wherre people come in and mooch through your stuff on daytime tv in that shed

    An episode? More like a season of shows in there I’d say :)


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    #210
    TheRiverman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    salmocab wrote: »
    There’s an episode of one of those shows wherre people come in and mooch through your stuff on daytime tv in that shed

    Probably one of Henry Cole's shows,Shed &Buried,Find It Fix It Flog It,Find It Fix It Drive It,or Junk & Disorderly.


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    #211
    maebee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭maebee


    I have zero interest in cars/motorbikes etc. but I stumbled on this thread today and enjoyed every page of it. What a find it was! Thanks for this AB and the best of luck in your endeavors.


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