Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

oxygen · 02-11-2014 11:28am

With the new Avengers movie being called " of Ultron", it made me wonder if this was to make it Ageitkward for Fox to title their next movie "Age of Apocalypse" which I assume they did want to title it.

I also kind of thought the same thing when JJ Abrams announced Quick Silver would be in Avengers 2 a couple of weeks after Singer announced he would be in the new xmen movie.

Nervous Wreck · 02-11-2014 4:10pm

oxygen_temp wrote: »

With the new Avengers movie being called " of Ultron", it made me wonder if this was to make it Ageitkward for Fox to title their next movie "Age of Apocalypse" which I assume they did want to title it.

I also kind of thought the same thing when JJ Abrams announced Quick Silver would be in Avengers 2 a couple of weeks after Singer announced he would be in the new xmen movie.

I doubt it. The MCU doesn't need to compete with the X-Men franchise because there's no competition. Age of Ultron is a comic event that they're basing the movie on; nothing more imo.

With regard to Quicksilver, I don't think Whedon heard Singer's announcement of the character and thought "Fcuk these guys, I'm writing Quicksilver into my movie too!" and did a rewrite. He was writing it anyway and happened to announce it second. I also reckon The Avengers version of Quicksilver will be an awful lot better than the X-Men version which, while it did provide some comic relief, was mostly crap (and that awful costume, fcuk...).

oxygen · 02-11-2014 5:29pm

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

I doubt it. The MCU doesn't need to compete with the X-Men franchise because there's no competition. Age of Ultron is a comic event that they're basing the movie on; nothing more imo.

With regard to Quicksilver, I don't think Whedon heard Singer's announcement of the character and thought "Fcuk these guys, I'm writing Quicksilver into my movie too!" and did a rewrite. He was writing it anyway and happened to announce it second. I also reckon The Avengers version of Quicksilver will be an awful lot better than the X-Men version which, while it did provide some comic relief, was mostly crap (and that awful costume, fcuk...).

Didn't know Age of Ultron was an existing comic event. Have to say though,I was extremely impressed with DoFP's effect for quick silver tho, I know it was a humorous sequence, but it was executed brilliantly. Doubt Avengers will top it, judging from the one scene in the trailer.

Costume was crap, but it looked fairly 70's tbf.

Agent Coulson · 06-11-2014 7:27pm

Direct-to-video release trailer from 80's.

07-11-2014 4:21pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

It does seem odd that they're deciding to try this with the lesser known characters. I suppose they could do what The Incredible Hulk did and do an origins montage in the opening credits. I wouldn't be surprised if BP had a cameo in Cap 3

Steven Strange's origin story could be just to similar to Tony Stark's to be fair. Arrogant rich guy has severe trauma and life changes. Ten minutes explaining, as him telling his tale to whomever, would be enough

Virtanen · 08-11-2014 12:15am

Deleted User wrote: »

Steven Strange's origin story could be just to similar to Tony Stark's to be fair. Arrogant rich guy has severe trauma and life changes. Ten minutes explaining, as him telling his tale to whomever, would be enough

I think this is most likely. I rewatched The Winter Soldier the other day, and Strange is mentioned as a threat to Hydra in it. So unless they decide to retcon that, he already exists as a character in the MCU, albeit without any screen time

Agent Coulson · 08-11-2014 12:18am

Anton Vanko has been cast in Marvel's Agent Carter. Marvel really are tying everything together.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/news/a608680/the-americans-star-costa-ronin-joining-marvels-agent-carter.html#~oUYraZADi4FIW3

Lithium93_ · 08-11-2014 3:06am

Just a question, will everything Marvel have been building towards come to a close once the credits roll on Avengers: Infinity War Part II or will there be a Phase 4?

Nervous Wreck · 08-11-2014 3:09am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Just a question, will everything Marvel have been building towards come to a close once the credits roll on Avengers: Infinity War Part II or will there be a Phase 4?

The movies will continue to make huge money so they'll continue to make the movies, I reckon. Phase 4, though years away, is almost a foregone conclusion I'd say.

Frank O. Pinion · 09-11-2014 1:14am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Just a question, will everything Marvel have been building towards come to a close once the credits roll on Avengers: Infinity War Part II or will there be a Phase 4?

Avengers: Infinity War Part II is 2019, but Marvel have movies "planned" until "2028". Iron Man 4, Ant-Man 2, a new solo HULK movie, Guardians of The Galaxy 3...inevitably leading to another Avengers sequel.

brianregan09 · 09-11-2014 2:39am

Theres 100 years of stories for them to do so they'll be going long after Infinity War , I just hope they don't blow there load on this one

Lithium93_ · 17-11-2014 12:57am

Just gonna leave this here

With the ending of The Winter Soldier setting up Rumlow’s future return – having not yet taken up the identity of Crossbones by that point. According to Variety‘s Justin Kroll (hat tip to CBM), Grillo’s Crossbones will be the main villain of the 2016 film Captain America: Civil War.

http://screenrant.com/captain-america-3-civil-war-villain-crossbones-frank-grillo/

scouttio · 17-11-2014 9:10am

More frank grillo is always a good thing

FunLover18 · 17-11-2014 11:17am

Did Grillo's Rumlow actually have any powers in TWS?

Mitch Connor · 17-11-2014 12:27pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

Did Grillo's Rumlow actually have any powers in TWS?

Not that I could see - was just a very well trained and effective soldier. Cap beat him, along with a load of others, in a lift on his own, afterall.

FunLover18 · 17-11-2014 2:49pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Not that I could see - was just a very well trained and effective soldier. Cap beat him, along with a load of others, in a lift on his own, afterall.

And does Corssbones have powers in the comics?

Daniel Bruhl has also joined CW as a potential villain for both CW. Link

Mitch Connor · 17-11-2014 4:08pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

And does Corssbones have powers in the comics?
Daniel Bruhl has also joined CW as a potential villain for both CW. Link

Nope, or at least mostly not, it would appear.

He is strong, and extremely well trained in various martial arts, weapon usage, piloting etc - but he has no supernatural powers.

He has been given the power to shoot beams of flaming death at people in some comic, but I'd be surprised if that saw its way to the MCU. I would say he will be a beefed up version of GSP from Winter Soldier - and actually be in the movie for more than 10seconds.

Agent Coulson · 20-11-2014 2:02pm

Marvel's Agents of Shield season 1 added to Netflix US.

maximoose · 20-11-2014 2:05pm

Still can't believe Grillo is 51.

Agent Coulson · 10-12-2014 2:28pm

From the hacked Sony files.

Sony Pictures has considered partnering with Marvel and producing an animated comedy as it looks to revamp its big screen strategy for “Spider-Man.”

Details of the discussions are contained in e-mails to and from Sony’s motion picture chief Amy Pascal, which were released on the Internet by hackers this week.

The e-mails reveal extensive discussions between executives at Sony and Marvel owner Walt Disney, all the way up to their respective chief executives Kaz Hirai and Robert Iger.

In an Oct. 30 e-mail, Sony Pictures president Doug Belgrad tells Ms. Pascal about a potential scenario that would see Marvel produce a new trilogy of Spider-Man movies while Sony retains “creative control, marketing and distribution.”

In a separate e-mail, Ms. Pascal tells a business partner that Marvel wanted to include Spider-Man in its planned third “Captain America” movie.

Some fanboys have clamored for Marvel Studios, which producers the blockbuster “Avengers” and “Iron Man” films, to take back control of Spider-Man from Sony, which has a long-term license. Sony’s last Spider-Man movie, “The Amazing Spider-Man 2,” received a mixed reaction from fans and modestly underperformed at the box office.

The talks with Marvel eventually broke down and Sony is now planning to go ahead with its own Spider-Man slate, according to people familiar with the matter. As of late November, executives were planning a “Spidey summit” for January to discuss future plans. Among projects in development are an animated Spider-Man comedy that would be produced by Chris Miller and Phil Lord, the team behind “22 Jump Street” and “The Lego Movie,” as well as previously disclosed Spider-Man spin-offs focused on villain team Sinister Six, super-foe Venom, and women from the webslinger’s life

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/12/09/sony-marvel-discussed-spider-man-movie-crossover/

DoYouEvenLift · 10-12-2014 2:55pm

So we probably won't be seeing spiderman in any of the upcoming marvel movies? That's great. Sound Sony!

Lithium93_ · 10-12-2014 3:18pm

Behind The Scenes look at Avengers Age Of Ultron

Agent Coulson · 10-12-2014 6:44pm

So I wonder are Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver are going to be

Inhumans

after the reveal on AoS.

Lithium93_ · 10-12-2014 6:53pm

Agents Of Shield will have a tie-in to Avengers Age Of Ultron.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/12/09/agents-shield-avengers-age-ultron/?hootPostID=b642b3fea1fdef34993226c42ceed0e2

Lithium93_ · 10-12-2014 11:32pm

Thanks to Sony Japan, there is a slim chance Spidey could make an appearance in the MCU

https://www.nerdist.com/2014/12/new-details-say-a-marvel-cinematic-universe-spider-man-is-still-possible/

SherlockWatson · 11-12-2014 9:55am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So I wonder are Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver are going to be
Inhumans
after the reveal on AoS.

Almost certainly I'd say.

11-12-2014 12:52pm

Have Marvel just smashed it out of the park with their offering. Agents of Shield pushing

InHumans

so far out and really beginning to tie everything together, even having Kree

Penn · 11-12-2014 5:55pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So I wonder are Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver are going to be
Inhumans
after the reveal on AoS.

I don't think so,

I think they'll be something different. Their power seems to come from the Infinity stone in Loki's staff as opposed to the Terrigan mist which made Skye an Inhuman

Nervous Wreck · 11-12-2014 7:24pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Have Marvel just smashed it out of the park with their offering. Agents of Shield pushing
InHumans
so far out and really beginning to tie everything together, even having Kree

4 years ahead of time. Unreal.

Agent Coulson · 13-12-2014 7:44pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The MCU on the various Netflix regions.

Iron Man - Argentina, Colombia & Mexico.

The Incredible Hulk - Canada.

Iron Man 2 - Ireland & UK.

Thor - Ireland & UK.

Captain America: The First Avenger - Ireland & UK.

The Avengers - Ireland, UK, USA, Denmark, Finland, Norway & Sweden.

Iron Man 3 - Sweeden, Norway & Denmark.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.episodes 1 though 7-Brazil, Argentina, Colombia & Mexico.

Thor: The Dark World - Netherlands.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episodes 8 though 16-Brazil, Argentina, Colombia & Mexico.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - Netherlands.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.episodes 17 through 22 - Brazil, Argentina, Colombia & Mexico.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier added.

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 8:58pm

Rumour that Sony has already fired Garfield as spider-man. Circumstances seem to be right for his entry into the MCU.

Soft Falling Rain · 13-12-2014 9:02pm

Ironic given Garfield and Stone were the best part of those films. It's not Garfield's fault that he was surrounded by absolute suckery creatively speaking.

Nervous Wreck · 13-12-2014 10:04pm

I think if Marvel got the rights to Spider-man back, it'd be great to do the Miles Morales version. I think people really wouldn't take well to yet another Peter Parker.

Lithium93_ · 13-12-2014 10:10pm

If Andrew Garfield has indeed been dumped from the Spider-Man role, it seems he nailed his own coffin by upsetting Sony bosses.

Furthermore, Garfield upset Sony’s Tokyo bosses when he skipped out at a dinner event, giving the company less than an hour’s notice that he wouldn’t be attending (despite him being scheduled to sit with Sony executives). According to Mashable, this was seen as an affront by the powers that be at Sony, which more than likely put Garfield out of favor with them.

http://screenrant.com/sony-spider-man-andrew-garfield-fired/

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 10:12pm

Theres also an article where he basically says its sonys fault the amazing spiderman 2 is... the way it is

Agent Coulson · 13-12-2014 10:14pm

They will probably us that as breach of contract or something like that so they won't have to pay him off on his multi-picture deal to play Spiderman.

Cheap way of getting rid of him before they take the Marvel/Disney money.

Soft Falling Rain · 13-12-2014 10:23pm

Aye Garfield has been quite defiant which hasn't helped. He was right to stick it to them and who knows, maybe it was an intentional tactic.

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 10:24pm

Well it can't be fun being in movies that bad :pac:

Lithium93_ · 13-12-2014 10:26pm

Question is if Spider-Man were to join the cameo in Captain America: Civil War, would would they cast as Peter/Spider-Man?

Varik · 13-12-2014 10:29pm

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

I think if Marvel got the rights to Spider-man back, it'd be great to do the Miles Morales version. I think people really wouldn't take well to yet another Peter Parker.

I doubt it, they've years of movies to do so the best possibility is if they at least skipped the origin as WB are doing with Batman this time around.

Soft Falling Rain · 13-12-2014 10:30pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Question is if Spider-Man were to join the cameo in Captain America: Civil War, would would they cast as Peter/Spider-Man?

That's the question and I honestly couldn't tell you. If following the CW storyline accurately they'd be looking for a Parker that's well established already. Well into his 20s and hitting 30.

The likes of JGL could be ripe for the role.

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 10:33pm

I want them to do a Stan Lee esque moment when new spiderman comes swinging in, Maguire is there and he just says 'whose that guy?'

FunLover18 · 13-12-2014 11:17pm

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

That's the question and I honestly couldn't tell you. If following the CW storyline accurately they'd be looking for a Parker that's well established already. Well into his 20s and hitting 30.

The likes of JGL could be ripe for the role.

I've read that Marvel want to focus Spider Man on the teenager/superhero thing rather than the romance with MJ/Gwen. JGL is defo too old to pass for a teenager.

I think there's definitely room to fit Spider Man into CW without Peter Parker given what the CW is based on. Could be interesting.

DoYouEvenLift · 14-12-2014 12:19am

cloud493 wrote: »

Rumour that Sony has already fired Garfield as spider-man. Circumstances seem to be right for his entry into the MCU.

I thought the reason they were reluctant to let marvel have spiderman in MCU was because marvel didn't want to use Garfield/their current spiderman and said they disagreed with what they had done and were planning on doing with the franchise lol. Guess this makes it easier for them to negotiate

Lithium93_ · 18-12-2014 4:16pm

The Avengers Inifinity War parts I & II may be 3 and 4 years away respectively. But Marvel apparently want Spider-Man to cameo in the movies.

Taken from the Superhero Feed Facebook page.
www.facebook.com/TheSuperHeroFeed

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OwaynOTT · 18-12-2014 5:27pm

Spider-Man in high school eh. That's a fresh approach to the character, they really have opened up a wholeoad of unexplored material.

pixelburp · 18-12-2014 6:07pm

Bad enough The Amazing Spider Man came so soon after the Sam Raimi versions, adding precisely nothing to the mythology, but the prospect of yet another iteration, yet another hero being crammed into the Marvel universe, doesn't get the pulse racing. The franchise feels borderline redundant as it is.

That said, at least Marvel understand the notion of having happy heroes, or a world where being a superhero isn't an angst-ridden chore. Who knows, Spider-Man might actually be fun.

McSasquatch II · 18-12-2014 6:12pm

^Agreed. Maybe a couple of stints in a supporting role will do wonders for the character (and audience's enthusiasm levels).

Agent Coulson · 18-12-2014 6:14pm

There is also the fact Marvel have put some term plan into there superheros.

Where the last two Spiderman movies were just being made to stop the rights reverting back to Marvel.

If Spiderman was to go back to the MCU I would imagine Marvel already have his future planned out now and where he fits into it.

In any case if they don't get the rights back it won't affect the MCU going forward.

cloud493 · 18-12-2014 7:49pm

Seems like when rather than if for spider-man in MCU now surely?

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