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Galway Bay Marathon 2020

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  • #102
    ChampionChip
    Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭ChampionChip


    If you done the miles and want a marathon or a half marathon we have one about to launch in Co Antrim at the Down Royal Race course on Oct 24th. 4 laps of a 10k route on roads, well marshalled, safe, flat and easy to get to in Lisburn 30 mins from the border.

    Getting it officially measured tomorrow and signed off by the authorities on Friday for the traffic management.

    Its the latest in a series of races we have held with govt approval and insured by Athletics NI since July 18th.

    Its not affected by the latest govt guidance which relates to social gatherings but not competitive sport.

    Opens for entries middle of next week.

    Keep an eye on the FB page for details

    https://www.facebook.com/ChampionChipIre


  • #103
    limlad2018
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭limlad2018


    Has anyone requested a refund? I've emailed but no response yet. Not sure if you're entitled to a refund if event is postponed does anyone know?


  • #104
    rizzee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    limlad2018 wrote: »
    Has anyone requested a refund? I've emailed but no response yet. Not sure if you're entitled to a refund if event is postponed does anyone know?

    I'm not too sure. I would have a assumed you were, but I did the Virgin Media 10km night run this year and they said automatically entered next year, a virtual race w/medal this year and no refunds (even though I said I "couldn't make it next year")


  • #105
    limlad2018
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭limlad2018


    Could pursue it with a charge back on the credit card but that's a lot of hassle if they wont give a refund its €50 all the same may dosent suit me next year. A sceptic would say they left entry open last few months to get all the entries knowing it was doubtful to go ahead due to covid


  • #106
    jnk883
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭jnk883


    limlad2018 wrote: »
    Could pursue it with a charge back on the credit card but that's a lot of hassle if they wont give a refund its €50 all the same may dosent suit me next year. A sceptic would say they left entry open last few months to get all the entries knowing it was doubtful to go ahead due to covid

    I'd agree with you on that one, most events closed entries to limit numbers with the hope it would go ahead.


  • #107
    ariana`
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    limlad2018 wrote: »
    A sceptic would say they left entry open last few months to get all the entries knowing it was doubtful to go ahead due to covid

    Seems to me this is the case. They said themselves in an email 3 weeks ago that if the numbers allowed outdoors were not increased, something which never looked likely to happen, it would not be going ahead and yet entries were still open for this period.

    It's good they give 2 date options. I wonder up to what point can we defer from May to Oct :confused:


  • #108
    limlad2018
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭limlad2018


    The email dosent give much other info like an option to drop from full to half which might interest me and others who usually run dublin in October . I'm surprised people aren't going mad about not being offered a refund!


  • #109
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    limlad2018 wrote: »
    A sceptic would say they left entry open last few months to get all the entries knowing it was doubtful to go ahead due to covid

    Anyone signing up in the last few months will have been well aware that this may get cancelled.


  • #110
    limlad2018
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭limlad2018


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    Anyone signing up in the last few months will have been well aware that this may get cancelled.
    So should I get my entry fee back?


  • #111
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    limlad2018 wrote: »
    So should I get my entry fee back?

    I would certainly expect so! Contact the race organiser.


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  • #112
    rizzee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    I asked what are the options regarding a refund & this is the response I received:


    Thank you for getting in touch. We are as disappointed as you are that
    we find ourselves in this situation.
    Run Galway Bay can offer you the following options:

    1. Your place is automatically deferred to the new date of May 8th,
    2021. If this doesn't suit please choose one of the options below.

    2. We can defer you to the October 2nd, 2021 event - if that date suits
    better please email us confirming you want to participate on this date.

    3. We can transfer your entry to our sister event the Forest Marathon,
    in Portumna Forest Park on June 12th, if that date works, will you
    please email us to confirm.

    4. We understand that the new dates will not suit some people and with
    this in mind, we are willing to switch names and participant details
    free of charge up to October 1st. This allows you to five your place to
    someone else if you wish if you do this please email us with their
    contact details for the new person.

    We would like to reiterate we are absolutely devastated that the event
    has to be moved at this late stage. We were working with Galway City
    Council and had hoped that things were going in the right direction to
    allow us to stage a socially distanced event, but the government
    directive is clear and we all have a duty to help contain COVID-19.

    Hope to see you at the start line of one of the above events in 2021.

    Regards

    Angela
    Run Galway Bay


  • #113
    Trampas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Trampas


    So basically we are keeping your money. Maybe people should remember this when thinking of doing a race organised by this group.

    This was never happening unless they got the 10km race as they’d lose money on full. If people thought about it that was very slim.

    The organiser is in it for the money. Might say they’re not


  • #114
    Pinoy adventure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    rizzee wrote: »
    I asked what are the options regarding a refund & this is the response I received:

    Shocking carry on


  • #115
    event
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,068 ✭✭✭✭event


    Wow, thats really poor form.

    Could go bust next year, what happens to the money then?


  • #116
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    rizzee wrote: »
    I asked what are the options regarding a refund & this is the response I received:

    Respond to them again and ask for a refund rather than a referral.


  • #117
    Murph_D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,489 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    Respond to them again and ask for a refund rather than a referral.

    I’ve done that, several days ago. No response yet.


  • #118
    Pinoy adventure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    Perhaps go with the charge back option if your getting no response from them


  • #119
    jnk883
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭jnk883


    Murph_D wrote: »
    I’ve done that, several days ago. No response yet.

    In the same both, got the email with the options that don't work, haven't heard anything back since. It definitely will make we think about what races I will do going forward


  • #120
    rizzee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    Respond to them again and ask for a refund rather than a referral.

    I did...

    Thank you for your email. This is a general response to acknowledge that we have received your email. We will answer your specific questions as soon as we can. The following may answer some of your queries - if not we will be in contact shortly.

    Why did we wait until Tuesday to confirm that the event is being rescheduled?

    Run Galway Bay had prepared an event plan based on the expectation that the positive start to the fight to curb COVID-19 would have allowed more lenient social distancing rules by now. Our plan for smaller groups,
    spread out over a longer period of time was presented to Galway City Council in August and at that time seemed viable. However the positive trend in the fight against COVID-19 did not continue and the most recent Government announcement made it clear that the event could not proceed.

    Why are we offering transfers?

    The event wasn't cancelled - it has been postponed. This was not a decision made by the event organisers - it is a government directive - which we understand and agree with. We have already paid for most of the race expenses. Our suppliers are being very generous and in most cases have agreed to transfer their services to the new date. We have not asked our suppliers for refunds as we know it could put them out of business. We are asking you, our participants and supporters to do the same for us and work with us to ensure that Run Galway Bay survives this crisis.

    What are your options?

    We have given three different dates for events in Galway next year and we will also facilitate the transfer of your entry to someone else (Run Galway Bay entries are usually strictly non-transferable). As the three race distances were already nearly sold out there will be a lot of demand for these entries.

    We appreciate that this disappointment is particularly harsh after a year of tough training and it's hard to take but we are doing this with everyone's safety in mind, in the best way that we can while also ensuring that we are in a position to continue to put on great runs for you in the months and years to come.

    Regards

    Angela


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  • #121
    ariana`
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Thank you for your email. This is a general response to acknowledge that we have received your email. We will answer your specific questions as soon as we can. The following may answer some of your queries - if not we will be in contact shortly.

    Why did we wait until Tuesday to confirm that the event is being rescheduled?

    Run Galway Bay had prepared an event plan based on the expectation that the positive start to the fight to curb COVID-19 would have allowed more lenient social distancing rules by now. Our plan for smaller groups,
    spread out over a longer period of time was presented to Galway City Council in August and at that time seemed viable. However the positive trend in the fight against COVID-19 did not continue and the most recent Government announcement made it clear that the event could not proceed.

    Why are we offering transfers?

    The event wasn't cancelled - it has been postponed. This was not a decision made by the event organisers - it is a government directive - which we understand and agree with. We have already paid for most of the race expenses. Our suppliers are being very generous and in most cases have agreed to transfer their services to the new date. We have not asked our suppliers for refunds as we know it could put them out of business. We are asking you, our participants and supporters to do the same for us and work with us to ensure that Run Galway Bay survives this crisis.

    What are your options?

    We have given three different dates for events in Galway next year and we will also facilitate the transfer of your entry to someone else (Run Galway Bay entries are usually strictly non-transferable). As the three race distances were already nearly sold out there will be a lot of demand for these entries.

    We appreciate that this disappointment is particularly harsh after a year of tough training and it's hard to take but we are doing this with everyone's safety in mind, in the best way that we can while also ensuring that we are in a position to continue to put on great runs for you in the months and years to come.

    Regards

    Angela

    If there is going to be a lot of demand for these places then you'd expect giving a refund to a portion of people and freeing up more places shouldn't be such an issue :rolleyes:


  • #122
    Pinoy adventure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    ariana` wrote: »
    If there is going to be a lot of demand for these places then you'd expect giving a refund to a portion of people and freeing up more places shouldn't be such an issue :rolleyes:

    They have paid the suppliers and now they have t shirts & medals they can't do anything with.they cannot give refunds as the money is gone all ready.such a shame they cant/won't give refunds


  • #123
    ChampionChip
    Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭ChampionChip


    Come and do this one in NI as your virtual run for Dublin, Galway London etc

    https://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/ChampionChipIrelandRunningSeriesEvent8DownRoyal


  • #124
    Pinoy adventure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    ChampionChip wrote: »
    Come and do this one in NI as your virtual run for Dublin, Galway London etc

    https://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/ChampionChipIrelandRunningSeriesEvent8DownRoyal

    Give us more details please.whats the route like ?


  • #125
    ChampionChip
    Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭ChampionChip


    Its all on this thread

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058113554


  • #126
    Trampas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Pinoy adventure wrote: »
    They have paid the suppliers and now they have t shirts & medals they can't do anything with.they cannot give refunds as the money is gone all ready.such a shame they cant/won't give refunds

    How do you know that?


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  • #127
    Slow_Runner
    Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Slow_Runner


    Usually there is a 3-4 week lead time to order shirts and medals so the organisers would have had to make a call then on wether to cancel or plow on and give no refunds, if that is the case then accepting entries with a chance it may not go ahead and knowing refunds were not an option is pretty bad form - wouldn't touch this race with a barge pole in the future.


  • #128
    ChampionChip
    Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭ChampionChip


    Slow_Runner wrote: »
    Usually there is a 3-4 week lead time to order shirts and medals so the organisers would have had to make a call then on wether to cancel or plow on and give no refunds, if that is the case then accepting entries with a chance it may not go ahead and knowing refunds were not an option is pretty bad form - wouldn't touch this race with a barge pole in the future.

    If they were ordering large quantities of medals and t shirts then the lead in time would have been more than 3 to 4 weeks. I have ordered a few hundred medals and had to have it away 4 weeks ahead of time. It would have been longer for thousands.


  • #129
    Pinoy adventure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    ChampionChip wrote: »
    If they were ordering large quantities of medals and t shirts then the lead in time would have been more than 3 to 4 weeks. I have ordered a few hundred medals and had to have it away 4 weeks ahead of time. It would have been longer for thousands.

    At least 3 months out the order was placed & paid for.bad form but the simply don't have the €€€ for refunds.
    They will lose more because of this


  • #130
    rizzee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    Was there any virtual option for this in the end? I'm doing 3.5ish x 12km loops in the Phoenix Park this Saturday instead as I've trained the last 4 months for this. Then I'll aim to beat it again come May/October!

    Not around the weekend of the 24th for the marathon up North unfortunately.


  • #131
    Pinoy adventure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    rizzee wrote: »
    Was there any virtual option for this in the end? I'm doing 3.5ish x 12km loops in the Phoenix Park this Saturday instead as I've trained the last 4 months for this. Then I'll aim to beat it again come May/October!

    Not around the weekend of the 24th for the marathon up North unfortunately.

    L2R virtual ?
    I'm doing similar in the Phoenix park too 2moro
    No virtual for Galway I think


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  • #132
    rizzee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    Just said I'd bump the thread - anyone training for 8th of May in the hope it will go ahead this time? Same story here again - will run a marathon if it doesn't go ahead and then fingers crossed for October if it's pushed!


  • #133
    Lambay island
    Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    rizzee wrote: »
    Just said I'd bump the thread - anyone training for 8th of May in the hope it will go ahead this time? Same story here again - will run a marathon if it doesn't go ahead and then fingers crossed for October if it's pushed!




    I'm not at the moment. I'm also injured and promised myself I wouldn't train for a marathon again unless I know there is one at the end of the cycle. I really wanted to do that particular race in the end after DCM was axed. Cork, which I was also signed up for in 2020 is due to be a few weeks later. Hard to see either of them happening at that stage of the year. I will either have 3 marathons to run in Autumn or none :)


  • #134
    Pinoy adventure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    Connamarathon pulled and rescheduled until 2022.cant see anything happening soon apart from virtuals


  • #135
    SeeMoreBut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    rizzee wrote: »
    Just said I'd bump the thread - anyone training for 8th of May in the hope it will go ahead this time? Same story here again - will run a marathon if it doesn't go ahead and then fingers crossed for October if it's pushed!

    No chance that is going ahead in May


  • #136
    6run28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭6run28


    I think it will be autumn for any big city marathon. Local ones might get going in the summer


  • #137
    event
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,068 ✭✭✭✭event


    Dublin and Clonakilty are the only marathons with a chance this year imo


  • #138
    Pinoy adventure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    event wrote: »
    Dublin and Clonakilty are the only marathons with a chance this year imo

    Nah I'd say some of the smaller 1s might go ahead b4 any bigger 1s


  • #139
    ariana`
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    I've no plan to train for a May marathon. If GB goes ahead in May I'll either drop down to the HM or else defer to October - assuming the organisers provide those as options. But honestly, imo the chances of anything going ahead in May are slim to none :cool:
    event wrote: »
    Dublin and Clonakilty are the only marathons with a chance this year imo

    What is this based on out of interest? I'd say Clon has a chance being late November and not huge numbers. But DCM with 20,000 runners packed onto the streets of Dublin just seems so far removed from how we are living right now that it's unimaginable...


  • #140
    6run28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭6run28


    Vaccine roll out plan is 4 million vaccinated by end of Sept. It may decrease or increase due to production levels/single shot vaccines. But at 4 million vaccinated, surely all Oct & Nov marathons could go ahead ?


  • #141
    ariana`
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    6run28 wrote: »
    Vaccine roll out plan is 4 million vaccinated by end of Sept. It may decrease or increase due to production levels/single shot vaccines. But at 4 million vaccinated, surely all Oct & Nov marathons could go ahead ?

    These are the bits that make me think it will be longer than we may anticipate right now :cool: They already hit a delay with supply this past week, how many weeks into the plan?


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  • #142
    ultrapercy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    There will be no mass participation events this year. Very small events such as the MCI marathons may go ahead during a short summer window. Does anyone else feel the tone of the talk about vaccines has become much less positive and confident? I mean at official level, not our consistent tinfoil hat, anti vax friends.


  • #143
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    ariana` wrote: »
    These are the bits that make me think it will be longer than we may anticipate right now :cool: They already hit a delay with supply this past week, how many weeks into the plan?

    Definitely agree. As a project manager I know at this stage if your plan is sleeping a week or two into the plan then you can be sure as hell guaranteed there's more slips to come.


  • #144
    6run28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭6run28


    But even if it drops hugely by say a million to 3 million people vaccinated that would still be every old person, every vulnerable person, every carer & front line worker and far more besides vaccinated. So why could race's not go ahead ? Not being smart, Im just not sure the logic behind it.


  • #145
    ariana`
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    6run28 wrote: »
    But even if it drops hugely by say a million to 3 million people vaccinated that would still be every old person, every vulnerable person, every carer & front line worker and far more besides vaccinated. So why could race's not go ahead ? Not being smart, Im just not sure the logic behind it.

    I didn't think you were being smart at all :)

    My logic is simple, there's too big a gap from where we are now to close in 9 months to allow that level of mass gathering of people (and as an aside a huge amount of whom will have compromised immune systems after a heavy marathon training block & race).

    It's been shown with the new strain it's not just the old who are vulnerable. Any of us could be vulnerable, it seems to be pot luck as to who gets a little sick, who gets quite sick and who gets very sick. And here's long Covid as well and the prolonged effects.


  • #146
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    ariana` wrote: »
    I didn't think you were being smart at all :)

    My logic is simple, there's too big a gap from where we are now to close in 9 months to allow that level of mass gathering of people (and as an aside a huge amount of whom will have compromised immune systems after a heavy marathon training block & race).

    It's been shown with the new strain it's not just the old who are vulnerable. Any of us could be vulnerable, it seems to be pot luck as to who gets a little sick, who gets quite sick and who gets very sick. And here's long Covid as well and the prolonged effects.

    Plus the decision on whether DCM can go ahead will be made long before October. So its not really 9 months left to decide. Realistically its 5ish? Not 100% sure on that one though


  • #147
    event
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,068 ✭✭✭✭event


    Yeah DCM probably need to make a decision in June.
    At that stage, they may just have to cancel, be very hard to call 4 months in advance.


  • #148
    rizzee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    Run Galway Bay May Event Rescheduled to October 2nd

    We have made the decision to reschedule our May event to October 2nd due to the current Covid-19 pandemic.

    Your entry has automatically been transferred to the new date and you can take this email as confirmation.

    The safety of our participants and supporters is always our number one priority so we had previously stated that we would follow the latest government guidelines in order to suppress Covid-19.

    We had worked closely with Galway City Council in the hope that a socially-distant compliant event would be possible in May but realistically in order to follow anticipated updated government guidelines it will be impossible.

    We know there will be huge disappointment following this announcement and we look forward to welcoming you to Nimmo's Pier and the start line of our October 2nd 2021 event.


    Thank you for your understanding in these trying times and we hope you and your loved ones keep safe and well.

    Regards
    Ray O'Connor
    RACE DIRECTOR


  • #149
    rizzee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    Anyone doing their own virtual on May 8th, or holding off getting back into marathon training until the Summer? :D


  • #150
    pudgeydev
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭pudgeydev


    rizzee wrote: »
    Anyone doing their own virtual on May 8th, or holding off getting back into marathon training until the Summer? :D


    Yep, will do it out in Salthill, I've trained for it goddammit!!

    Hard part will be having my own drink stations!


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  • #151
    rizzee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    pudgeydev wrote: »
    Yep, will do it out in Salthill, I've trained for it goddammit!!

    Hard part will be having my own drink stations!

    Best of luck!


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