The West Wing Spoilers

neemish · 02-05-2012 4:20pm

Ludo wrote: »

IT IS BACK...NEW WEST WING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/the-west-wing-reunion-walk-and-talk_n_1467267.html

I love it! New West Wing is always good :-)

mawk · 02-05-2012 9:20pm

Green Diesel wrote: »

Finally got around to watching this, into season 3 so far. Quite a good series, sentimentality can get a bit much at times but good dialogue carries it.

My only issue with it, and it really annoys me, is the end credits music. Drives me crazy having an emotional or somber ending with a fade to black and then that cheerful tune kicks in ! Drives me mad !

there is a page on tvtropes about tww's clashing outro. but out mentions that when the show aired, the theme wasn't played, as the network talked over it. its only really a dvd thing

Skinfull · 04-05-2012 11:38pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nApUGK5WAUk

Nailed it.

Green Diesel · 06-05-2012 12:30pm

mawk wrote: »

there is a page on tvtropes about tww's clashing outro. but out mentions that when the show aired, the theme wasn't played, as the network talked over it. its only really a dvd thing

I'll have to suffer, and reach for the pause button once it fades to black !

nkay1985 · 07-05-2012 2:00am

Green Diesel wrote: »

I'll have to suffer, and reach for the pause button once it fades to black !

Yeah it used to really bother me too but I got pretty good at pausing before it.

Otacon · 03-06-2012 11:51am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18313427

Mrs. Landingham has died.

US TV actress Kathryn Joosten, best known for her roles in Desperate Housewives and The West Wing, has died.

Joosten, who was 72, died in California of lung cancer, 11 years after she was first diagnosed with the disease.

The actress won two Emmy Awards for playing nosey neighbour Karen McCluskey in suburban drama Desperate Housewives.

She had previously portrayed Delores Landingham, the secretary to fictional US President Josiah Bartlet, played by Martin Sheen, on The West Wing.

RIP

Kylo Ren · 27-09-2012 2:29am

I started season 1 a few weeks ago. I'm starting season 2 now. Let's do this.

cjmcork · 27-09-2012 7:51am

couldn't help myself - started back last week on S1 (probably my fifth or sixth view over the last few years), I still HATE mandy!

Otacon · 27-09-2012 9:13am

For those of you looking for a West Wing fix...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v52FLMOPSig

cjmcork · 27-09-2012 9:20am

thanks for that - bloody Joshua Malina's been teasing with pics of this on twitter pretending it's a movie.............apparently #TWWM has been trending in the States

I note the Santos crew were nowhere to be seen

VinLieger · 27-09-2012 9:59am

cjmcork wrote: »

I note the Santos crew were nowhere to be seen

It was a throwback pretending Bartlett was still president, no need for santos

meoklmrk91 · 11-02-2013 1:00am

So the west wing was recently added to Netflix. It was considered one of the best shows of the early 2000's or so it seems from the reviews it got and the amount of awards it won. I missed it because I was only a kid then so decided to give it a go.

I am on episode 11 and I have to say I think It's really boring. I like Aaron Sorkin but his overly sentimental stuff which is annoying is on full display here. Very nice acting and the writing can be very good at times but the over sentimentality kills it. Also it has not aged well and feels very dated, although I do realise the first season is nearly 14 years old.

I just wanted to know is it worth carrying on, does it get better? I really wanted to like this one!

Andersonisgod · 11-02-2013 1:06am

Yes. Im nearing the end of season 4 (generally seasons 1-4 are considered its prime) and it's absolutely been worth it. Ok yes it does get a bit too sentimental and idealistic and I accept that some people of a right wing point of view might take exception to how both sides of the coin are portrayed. However the writing is top notch, the dialogue is razor sharp, the performances are brilliant on a regular basis (Janney and Sheen get special mentions here) and the characters are fleshed out as the show goes along. It's definitely worth sticking with.

tvnutz · 11-02-2013 1:07am

Yes, fantastic show. However if you find it boring you obviously don't like the type of show it is and might not like it in general.

meoklmrk91 · 11-02-2013 1:31am

tvnutz wrote: »

Yes, fantastic show. However if you find it boring you obviously don't like the type of show it is and might not like it in general.

Strange thing is on paper it is right up my street, I am really interested in politics, like other political dramas. Etc. Even like Sorkins other work, Studio 60, The Social network and The Newsroom.

Duck Soup · 11-02-2013 2:38am

One of my favourite shows of all time. But if you haven't warmed to it by the end of the first season, likely you aren't going to like the next six seasons. If you're interested in TV shows from the noughties, try The Sopranos or The Wire.

wow sierra · 11-02-2013 2:56am

My favourite show of all time. I have watched it straight through a few times since it finished and don't feel it's aged at all.

But if you don't like it after 11 episodes you won't get to like it - it doesn't change.

Maybe before you give up have a look at 20 hours in America - the first two episodes of series 4. It has some high powered White House staff sort of stranded in rural America. My favourite episodes in it. Obviously it will be a bit of a spoiler if you want to go back and watch it all but it might whet your appetite.

meoklmrk91 · 11-02-2013 7:06pm

Right I am going to give it to the end of the first season and see from there.

VinLieger · 12-02-2013 1:30pm

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Right I am going to give it to the end of the first season and see from there.

Yeah probably best although i gotta say the final episodes of the second season are the best of the entire show, and the season finale is probably my favorite episode of television ever

Chin Stroker · 13-02-2013 11:02pm

Just had a great read of all this. A fitting tribute to a masterful show.

IvySlayer · 13-02-2013 11:08pm

Definitely my most favourite TV show ever

My favourite character is Josh. Him and Donna walking and talking

I loved CJ for the first 5 seasons, but I hate her as Chief of Staff, why didn't Josh get it?

Leo in Season 6 was stupid aswell, hard to believe they asked him to be VP, especially after he tried to tell Josh to make Santos quit. I won't even start on Toby....

What I find amazing is the depth of every single character. Even the minor ones.

Amy Gardner though....represents the worst of politics...has an agenda and never stops pursuing it.

Also Stockyard Channing.....I hated the first lady.....at least get an actress who didn't have bad plastic surgery.

Uriel. · 14-02-2013 9:14am

IvySlayer wrote: »

Definitely my most favourite TV show ever

My favourite character is Josh. Him and Donna walking and talking
I loved CJ for the first 5 seasons, but I hate her as Chief of Staff, why didn't Josh get it?

Leo in Season 6 was stupid aswell, hard to believe they asked him to be VP, especially after he tried to tell Josh to make Santos quit. I won't even start on Toby....

What I find amazing is the depth of every single character. Even the minor ones.
Amy Gardner though....represents the worst of politics...has an agenda and never stops pursuing it.

Also Stockyard Channing.....I hated the first lady.....at least get an actress who didn't have bad plastic surgery.

Some interesting observations and I could certainly discuss in detail but for now I'll just stick to ...

I don't care about Amy's pursuit of her agenda, she is damn hooooot

Faith · 14-02-2013 6:04pm

I'm halfway through season 5 at the moment, of my first time watching the show. It's amazing how it takes a dive this season. I'm really stressed with college and the show usually relaxes me, but now everyone is stressed and unhappy and shouting at each other! I'm trusting the previous posters who say it picks up again...

Chin Stroker · 14-02-2013 7:51pm

A good tip post Sorkin years in Season 5 is to watch all the episodes scripted by Debora Cahn, her writing is hilarious and as close to Sorkin quality as it gets.

Uriel. · 14-02-2013 9:40pm

Faith wrote: »

I'm halfway through season 5 at the moment, of my first time watching the show. It's amazing how it takes a dive this season. I'm really stressed with college and the show usually relaxes me, but now everyone is stressed and unhappy and shouting at each other! I'm trusting the previous posters who say it picks up again...

It does, stick with it. Personally I liked season 5 but I can see why many wouldn't in comparison to the first three in particular

The Black Oil · 14-02-2013 10:57pm

Season 5 has a few too many dodgy moments. The bickering was particularly noticeable, and what they did to the whole feel of the show. Things do improve in 6 and 7, though I've still a few reservations about some of the writing - they piss all over Toby as a character.

IvySlayer · 15-02-2013 12:57am

Stick with it. Season 6 and 7 are brilliant.

I love Vinick so much, even more than Santos!

kerry4sam · 15-02-2013 1:00am

Faith wrote: »

I'm halfway through season 5 at the moment, of my first time watching the show. It's amazing how it takes a dive this season. I'm really stressed with college and the show usually relaxes me, but now everyone is stressed and unhappy and shouting at each other! I'm trusting the previous posters who say it picks up again...

Ah hope college-life gets happier for you Faith

West Wing in seasons 6&7 are simply excellent viewing! You have a lovely treat ahead of you watching those series.

willmunny1990 · 15-02-2013 10:41pm

Do you have to be somewhat interested in politics to get into this? I've heard a lot of great reviews but none say it's only for those with a love for politics.

I'm half way through the first episode and do find it too political. I'm not a political person at all, does this have the potential to grow on me, or should I just give up now?

Mr E · 15-02-2013 10:54pm

I've merged a few West Wing floaters with the main thread.

nkay1985 · 15-02-2013 11:34pm

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

So the west wing was recently added to Netflix. It was considered one of the best shows of the early 2000's or so it seems from the reviews it got and the amount of awards it won. I missed it because I was only a kid then so decided to give it a go.

I am on episode 11 and I have to say I think It's really boring. I like Aaron Sorkin but his overly sentimental stuff which is annoying is on full display here. Very nice acting and the writing can be very good at times but the over sentimentality kills it. Also it has not aged well and feels very dated, although I do realise the first season is nearly 14 years old.

I just wanted to know is it worth carrying on, does it get better? I really wanted to like this one!

Was it added to the Irish Netflix? Just had a look for it but didn't see anything.

VinLieger · 16-02-2013 12:33am

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Do you have to be somewhat interested in politics to get into this? I've heard a lot of great reviews but none say it's only for those with a love for politics.

I'm half way through the first episode and do find it too political. I'm not a political person at all, does this have the potential to grow on me, or should I just give up now?

No it does have politics in it but they revolve around the character relationships

santana75 · 16-02-2013 11:37am

Faith wrote: »

I'm halfway through season 5 at the moment, of my first time watching the show. It's amazing how it takes a dive this season. I'm really stressed with college and the show usually relaxes me, but now everyone is stressed and unhappy and shouting at each other! I'm trusting the previous posters who say it picks up again...

Just finished watching the west wing for the first time myself(cant believe it started in 1999). Yep stick with it. I almost gave up on it at season 5 but 6 and especially 7, are the best of the lot.

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Do you have to be somewhat interested in politics to get into this? I've heard a lot of great reviews but none say it's only for those with a love for politics.

I'm half way through the first episode and do find it too political. I'm not a political person at all, does this have the potential to grow on me, or should I just give up now?

I had zero interest in politics and I loved the west wing. Like you I found it a bit talky at first but bloody hell it grows on you. And something strange happens over time: You become interested in politics........well american politics anyway, dont think I could ever imagine there being a tv show about Enda and the boys. At least not a serious one anyway. But stick with it.

meoklmrk91 · 16-02-2013 1:42pm

nkay1985 wrote: »

Was it added to the Irish Netflix? Just had a look for it but didn't see anything.

Well it was added to American Netflix, I don't know about the Irish one,

nkay1985 · 16-02-2013 1:47pm

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Well it was added to American Netflix, I don't know about the Irish one,

Yeah I don't think it has been. Hopefully it is because I have them all on a drive but Netflix is just so handy. Would happily re-watch the whole thing.

Tipsy McSwagger · 16-02-2013 2:26pm

I'm halfway through season 2 and it really is fantastic. Best character is President Bartlett.

wp_rathead · 16-02-2013 4:03pm

Same I'm just starting Season 4 now- decided to get it after I fell in love with "The Newsroom"- but everyone kept saying that it is just a poor version of The West Wing.. I now know what they meant..
I managed to get the Boxset in HMV before it closed, down from €300 to €60- main reason I got it and not just download/stream it is because I feel to fully appreciate Sorkin's work I feel you need to watch with subtitles as the dialogue goes so fast and you may miss some of it

bnt · 16-02-2013 11:45pm

IvySlayer wrote: »

Definitely my most favourite TV show ever

My favourite character is Josh. Him and Donna walking and talking
I loved CJ for the first 5 seasons, but I hate her as Chief of Staff, why didn't Josh get it?

She was Leo's first choice, and in any case Josh was distracted by Donna's recovery after the bombing and having serious doubts about the job.

IvySlayer wrote: »

Leo in Season 6 was stupid aswell, hard to believe they asked him to be VP, especially after he tried to tell Josh to make Santos quit. I won't even start on Toby....

The way I read it, the decision was Josh's, and was primarily to get the votes in at the Convention. As is seen later, the two hardly knew each other and rarely interacted, all the way through the campaign. This is fairly realistic e.g. George H.W, Bush fought hard against Ronald Reagan for the 1980 Republican nomination, coining the phrase "voodoo economics" to describe Reagan's policies ... and still served as Reagan's VP for eight years. The Prez and Veep don't have to like each other e.g. Richard Nixon & Spiro Agnew.

05-03-2013 10:29am

Have made my way up to episode 21 of Season 4, so nearly completed it. Have read here that people say that the first 4 seasons were it in its prime, so should I stop now or continue?

don ramo · 05-03-2013 11:03am

Deleted User wrote: »

Have made my way up to episode 21 of Season 4, so nearly completed it. Have read here that people say that the first 4 seasons were it in its prime, so should I stop now or continue?

sorkin left the show for i think season 5 onwards, so there is a difference in these 2 seasons to the first 4, there not bad seasons, its just there not as good as 1-4, but season 7 which i think is one of the strongest seasons of TV ever made 5-6 totally worth it,

if you stop now your only watching half the story, dont listen to other people either, if your enjoying the show why stop at season 4,

Uriel. · 05-03-2013 1:14pm

don ramo wrote: »

sorkin left the show for i think season 5 onwards, so there is a difference in these 2 seasons to the first 4, there not bad seasons, its just there not as good as 1-4, but season 7 which i think is one of the strongest seasons of TV ever made 5-6 totally worth it,

if you stop now your only watching half the story, dont listen to other people either, if your enjoying the show why stop at season 4,

fully echo the above. Keep with it. Season 7 is great IMO. I don't think that 5 and 6 are bad, just not as good as the first 4.

Pepe LeFrits · 05-03-2013 6:00pm

I love season 6.

G_R · 06-03-2013 9:55am

Definitely do not stop. As the others have said, they aren't bad seasons, just not quite as good as 1-4 and 7. Still far better than the majority of TV you will watch!

ben.schlomo · 06-03-2013 11:18am

Myself and the OH are into Season 2 now, we like it overall but my god the amount of nauseating cringe moments is painful e.g end of the midterms and sitting on Joshs 'stoop', the first season's 'I serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States' and all the others, why do it, takes away hugely from the humour and politics which i enjoy.

kerry4sam · 06-03-2013 2:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Have made my way up to episode 21 of Season 4, so nearly completed it. Have read here that people say that the first 4 seasons were it in its prime, so should I stop now or continue?

Continue!

The 6th series moves up a scale with more emphasis on the International Level and onto the next Presidential Election Candidates which leads nicely into the next Presidential Election in the final series. Well worth staying with imo. Great viewing!

Lady Chatterton · 06-03-2013 2:43pm

I'm in the middle of season four and I'm really enjoying the West Wing so much. I wholeheartedly agree with Grand Rajnah, it's far better than most of the stuff that's on our TVs at the moment.

Faith · 06-03-2013 11:57pm

I'm 3 episodes into season 7 now. Stick with it! I found season 5 tough going, but season 6 was brilliant again.

I miss Sam

, though

.

Lady Chatterton · 06-03-2013 11:59pm

Stick a spoiler tag on that last line ^^^^^^ - some of us are only on Season 4

kearneybobs · 07-03-2013 12:17am

I stopped at season 7

I really should get back to watching that!

emeraldstar · 07-03-2013 10:35am

kearneybobs wrote: »

I stopped at season 7

I really should get back to watching that!

Well, there are only seven seasons!

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