Dublin Marathon 2020

py · 26-10-2020 5:31pm

sk8board wrote: »

After the relative success/good vibes of this event by moving it virtual, what are the chances of other ones doing the same, rather than the rolling postponements?
I found myself today looking for another virtual Half this side of Christmas.
I avoided the app, but uploading the time was simple and worked great, and a medal in the post next week I suppose

Run the Line virtual is in a few weeks and it raises valuable funds for DWMRT. https://www.runtheline.ie/

TFBubendorfer · 26-10-2020 6:00pm

Valresnick wrote: »

Must be an issue with the App I reckon.

Almost certainly caused by people uploading their time manually and NOT using the app.

sk8board · 26-10-2020 9:37pm

Not sure if there’s a separate thread, but the Longford/cairn hill 5k/10k/10m is now virtual and they had ‘2020’ made in advance, so they are allowing virtual entries €21 incl postage up to Dec 31
Myself and 3 neighbours who did the Half yesterday are thinking of picking a date next month and giving it a blast

py · 26-10-2020 10:26pm

Yesterday's virtual run went well. Came away with a PB which I was thrilled with. The great thing about the day was the camaraderie amongst those that were out doing their virtual runs. I spotted several people with home made numbers attached to their t-shirts/jerseys. There were a few groups I spotted running in a physically distanced formation, it was almost military like. I passed the same people over and over again on my lap, there was always a hello or word of encouragment exchanged.

One of the runners whom I crossed paths with several times had her kids shouting out the window waving motivational signs at her, such a great thing to see with no crowds and no fanfare, just a family trying to encourage someone through what was going to be a challenging day. I spotted her later on and she had a friend running with her for encouragement.

At the latter part of my run out towards Ballycullen, I'd a lady who was driving the opposite direction but clearly out supporting someone or perhaps had just done her own run, offer me a drink which was incredibly kind of her. I didn't know her, she didn't know me but she knew any offer of support whether taken or not, would have been welcome. I waved her off but gave a big thumbs up as a sign of appreciation. Thank you stranger.

I never really planned to have my family out supporting though I did pass on my strava beacon link for safety purposes. My wife and kids drove by me a few times shouting encouragement which was a real boost, particularly towards the end of my final lap when I was out on my feet. I'd also a friend of the family and her kids out shouting words of encouragement each time I passed their house.

Not your typical DCM or race of any kind but it was special in its own way. Outside of those people taking the piss, I hope people had a positive experience of their virtual race.

event · 26-10-2020 11:42pm

Theyve announced the winners.

Bit strange considering people can still upload times

robinph · 27-10-2020 12:23am

event wrote: »

Theyve announced the winners.

Bit strange considering people can still upload times

But they would know if anyone was running that pace already as the app uploaded split times as you go.

event · 27-10-2020 11:49am

robinph wrote: »

But they would know if anyone was running that pace already as the app uploaded split times as you go.

What if you didnt use the app? Or did you have to use it to compete & be recognised as a winner?

Jakey Rolling · 27-10-2020 6:38pm

event wrote: »

Theyve announced the winners.

Bit strange considering people can still upload times

Was checking a friend's result in W45 category, then went to check overall female results - same three W45 women were 1,2,3 overall. Times not too shabby either at 2:57/2:58. Putting the young uns to shame!

Trampas · 28-10-2020 3:53pm

event wrote: »

Theyve announced the winners.

Bit strange considering people can still upload times

Winners? They couldn’t give prizes based on virtual runs.

They’ve no way of verifying any run. Just need to look on strava to see cycling under runs due to gps device

robinph · 28-10-2020 4:06pm

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Was checking a friend's result in W45 category, then went to check overall female results - same three W45 women were 1,2,3 overall. Times not too shabby either at 2:57/2:58. Putting the young uns to shame!

That wouldn't be too unusual for V40 women to be winning overall female category in many races, V45 would be more unusual but still wouldn't be surprised at them beating Fsen runners.

N.Fusco · 29-10-2020 11:16am

App was a fecking disaster. I was about 11 miles in when it started talking congratulating be about doing 5 miles and giving me the history of Phoenix park
Thankfully I presumed it was be pants so used my watch. 04:57, which is slow AF but was in the trails around Bray and got over 1,000m elevation so delighted with it

geodesic · 15-11-2020 5:17pm

From the results on the DCM site, looks like just shy of 9000 completed one of the 4 virtual events:

Marathon: 4149
Half: 3345
10k: 1124
4M: 359

There were a total of 13,000 registered according to media reports at the time, so that's a drop out rate of circa 30% which I guess isn't at all bad considered the lockdown circumstances.

(typically the no-show rate for a "real" marathon is 15-20%, IIUC)

SeeMoreBut · 15-11-2020 7:29pm

geodesic wrote: »

From the results on the DCM site, looks like just shy of 9000 completed one of the 4 virtual events:
Marathon: 4149

Half: 3345

10k: 1124

4M: 359

There were a total of 13,000 registered according to media reports at the time, so that's a drop out rate of circa 30% which I guess isn't at all bad considered the lockdown circumstances.

(typically the no-show rate for a "real" marathon is 15-20%, IIUC)

Some people didn't upload run also I guess

py · 15-11-2020 7:46pm

It was mentioned in the covid events thread but you'd hope the virtual aspect is enough to keep them ticking over financially.

SeeMoreBut · 16-11-2020 2:07pm

Is there many out of DCM organisers that are on a salary for it?

No problem in getting some money for doing some work and any expenses but is there many working who that is their only income?

diego_b · 16-11-2020 2:08pm

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

Is there many out of DCM organisers that are on a salary for it?

No problem in getting some money for doing some work and any expenses but is there many working who that is their only income?

Last I heard they have one full time employee.

floodser · 24-11-2020 10:16am

Medal and beanie arrived in post this morning.

Great job by the organisers. Roll on the real event next year.

rizzee · 25-11-2020 10:55am

Also got mine yesterday. Another one for the collection!

Is there any way of getting an entry next year?

average_runner · 25-11-2020 11:14am

rizzee wrote: »

Also got mine yesterday. Another one for the collection!

Is there any way of getting an entry next year?

It will open up at some stage but not till they know its going ahead

Sunny Dayz · 25-11-2020 3:57pm

Anyone not got their medal and beanie hat yet? From looking at my social media it feels like I'm the one one who hasn't!

Lambay island · 25-11-2020 6:09pm

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

Anyone not got their medal and beanie hat yet? From looking at my social media it feels like I'm the one one who hasn't!

my medal arrived this morn but no hat with it :rolleyes:

Lightscribe · 25-11-2020 8:59pm

I got a medal and some fancy arm warmers in the post this morning.

event · 26-11-2020 10:37am

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

Anyone not got their medal and beanie hat yet? From looking at my social media it feels like I'm the one one who hasn't!

I changed from the full to the half but looks like they arent sending me anyhing

littleredspot · 26-11-2020 10:46am

event wrote: »

I changed from the full to the half but looks like they arent sending me anyhing

I did the half and received medal and arm warmers yesterday.

py · 26-11-2020 11:39am

A recent post said 9,000 people completed one of the races. That is a lot of medals and swag to package, address and stamp. I'd give it till at least the end of next week before getting in touch with them.

ariana` · 26-11-2020 2:04pm

event wrote: »

I changed from the full to the half but looks like they arent sending me anyhing

I changed from the full to the half and I got my medal and sleeves on Tuesday. They might still arrive and if not email them, they are usually very quick to respond.

event · 26-11-2020 9:00pm

event wrote: »

I changed from the full to the half but looks like they arent sending me anyhing

They landed at 11am. I need to be patient

Sunny Dayz · 27-11-2020 12:08am

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

Anyone not got their medal and beanie hat yet? From looking at my social media it feels like I'm the one one who hasn't!

Phew it landed today, delighted with my first marathon medal.

Dudda · 20-12-2020 8:03pm

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dublin-marathon-loses-the-run-of-itself-despite-record-entries-qtzz5j7js

DCM in financial trouble by the sounds of it

Supercell · 23-12-2020 9:41am

Dudda wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dublin-marathon-loses-the-run-of-itself-despite-record-entries-qtzz5j7js

DCM in financial trouble by the sounds of it

That's just crazy, lost the run of themselves indeed, how about less paying of foreign runners to take part as a starter, should save a few bob.

rovers_runner · 23-12-2020 1:17pm

Supercell wrote: »

That's just crazy, lost the run of themselves indeed, how about less paying of foreign runners to take part as a starter, should save a few bob.

Sad thing is the winner turned out to be a drug cheat.
Dunno how they managed this since they were able to run the event on a shoestring in early 2010's.

BaZmO* · 23-12-2020 3:06pm

Surely there would be enough interest from Ireland to make it financially viable without trying to attract foreign elite runners with big prizes?

ThePiedPiper · 23-12-2020 7:42pm

The feel good factor of Sean Hehir and various other Irish runners was great for DCM, those years really captured the imagination. Strangely, that only happened when there was no sponsor to fund an ‘elite’ international field. Said international fields have never been of any interest, in any case, as they’re not part of the 1st tier of international elite.

robinph · 23-12-2020 10:35pm

The likes of Manchester, Edinburgh, Dublin and Belfast scale events shouldn't bother with shipping in the 2nd tier elites. Create an England/ Ireland/ Scotland/ Wales grand slam series (like the marathon majors over 2 seasons ) and have a nations team competition. Raise the profile of home grown runners and have something where the public can actually get behind the runners and know them. Then every couple of years one of them gets picked as a joint Olympic/ Commonwealth/ World qualifying events depending on the year and you get an exciting race between people you've heard of getting coverage on the telly and running around your local streets to claim their championship places.

Murph_D · 24-12-2020 1:38am

A quick look at the (abridged) accounts published suggests the race has been losing money for a good few years now, despite the ‘success’ of moving to Sunday. Seem to have enough cash on hand to absorb the 2019 loss, but I’d say that got wiped out this year. The decision to reduce costs looks like a necessity.

JimmyChew · 26-01-2021 10:43am

A lot of the "big city Marathons" in Ireland won't survive this. I'm thinking Cork & Limerick.

The extra costs involved in putting on these events to pay for a Covid compliant set up, Reduced numbers for compliance and an increased entry fee to pay for it all, it just wont be viable. Cork was already struggling and had already signalled in 2019 that it had some work to do to revitalize their event. Limerick has a big backer but in the end is a private enterprise, if the numbers don't add up it will just be a non runner so to speak.

The jewel in the crown Dublin? as mentioned is under some serious pressure.

Its going to be small local affairs and virtual events for a couple of years I think lad's.

Explosive_Cornflake · 26-01-2021 1:00pm

JimmyChew wrote: »

A lot of the "big city Marathons" in Ireland won't survive this. I'm thinking Cork & Limerick.

The extra costs involved in putting on these events to pay for a Covid compliant set up, Reduced numbers for compliance and an increased entry fee to pay for it all, it just wont be viable. Cork was already struggling and had already signalled in 2019 that it had some work to do to revitalize their event. Limerick has a big backer but in the end is a private enterprise, if the numbers don't add up it will just be a non runner so to speak.

The jewel in the crown Dublin? as mentioned is under some serious pressure.

Its going to be small local affairs and virtual events for a couple of years I think lad's.

You're probably right.

I can't see DCM taking the risk of attempting to run it this year. If there's any chance it won't happen, they couldn't throw money at planing for it.

BaZmO* · 26-01-2021 1:12pm

Absolutely won't happen this year. Government target is to have everyone vaccinated by September, and that's by their own admission an optimistic target. They obviously won't make this. So there's no way any events will get insurance/clearance to go ahead until those targets are met.

robinph · 26-01-2021 2:29pm

BaZmO* wrote: »

Absolutely won't happen this year. Government target is to have everyone vaccinated by September, and that's by their own admission an optimistic target. They obviously won't make this. So there's no way any events will get insurance/clearance to go ahead until those targets are met.

Possibly the case if the vaccine does absolutely nothing to prevent the spread of the virus and the only way to protect the population is continued social distancing and the vaccine to prevent the most vulnerable from needing to be hospitalised.

But if in another couple of months time once the majority of the most vulnerable populations are vaccinated and ideally the numbers of them getting so ill that they need hospital treatment has significantly reduced, at that point there should also start to be evidence of how the vaccines affect transmission. Once you have all of a group in a care home for example vaccinated, but you still check for positive cases within the group, you will soon learn if those positive cases that catch it from outside contact are actually transmitting it to others in that group. That kind of information can only be weeks away from being known about as people will already be well onto their second doses in some groups and the effect can start to be measured.

If the transmission is reduced from the vaccine then restrictions can be relaxed fairly quickly after you have got through most of the vulnerable population. Society is perfectly fine with the idea of only bothering to vaccinate for flu with a small percentage of the population, the rest of you just have to take your chances. No reason to think that society won't think the same with Covid, and once the hospitals are not at risk of being overrun it matters far less.

Of course if the vaccines don't reduce transmission or the risks of further mutations then we'll be in a very different place, but we don't know yet. For Dublin marathon though they need to know how things are looking far sooner than September.

franciscanpunk · 28-01-2021 9:46pm

Thanks for the positive post very happy to have hope of it going ahead but I'm just not sure it'll happen no matter how much I want it too. One thing for certain i wont be running it virtually, some people may enjoy that but for me its just a horribly long training run.

Maybe they should consider a later date like December to allow max chance for everyone to be vaccinated and if its case it cant go ahead even after the critical mass has been vaccinated will just have to accept no more events for a few years.

franciscanpunk · 28-01-2021 11:58pm

Was having a look at potential races, thinking of booking something in Northern Ireland as I'd see more chance of a race being allowed happen in the UK given the speed of their vaccine roll out.

I wonder what time of the year the Dublin city marathon will make an announcment.

robinph · 29-01-2021 1:12am

I'm far more confident that my run in London will happen in October that the one in Dublin, but that's mostly down to London have more cash to splash on any crazy extra measures they might need to take, and they have more options to work with on space at the start and finish and along the route if needed.

Whilst pushing back by a couple of months would be a good idea, that is less so when that is heading into winter months when trying to avoid transmission of a virus that likes the winter season. If we were 9 months away an April event being pushed back a couple of months then it would be great, less so when talking about winter and viruses.

donaghs · 30-01-2021 12:24pm

Murph_D wrote: »

A quick look at the (abridged) accounts published suggests the race has been losing money for a good few years now, despite the ‘success’ of moving to Sunday. Seem to have enough cash on hand to absorb the 2019 loss, but I’d say that got wiped out this year. The decision to reduce costs looks like a necessity.

That sounds like poor financial management, considering 2019 had a record number of entrants?

average_runner · 01-02-2021 3:08pm

franciscanpunk wrote: »

Was having a look at potential races, thinking of booking something in Northern Ireland as I'd see more chance of a race being allowed happen in the UK given the speed of their vaccine roll out.

I wonder what time of the year the Dublin city marathon will make an announcment.

The advice from the government will be essential travel only for the year!!
So the north will be a no go

Unthought Known · 02-02-2021 8:05pm

average_runner wrote: »

The advice from the government will be essential travel only for the year!!
So the north will be a no go

Have they said that?

The Davestator · 03-02-2021 11:50am

Unthought Known wrote: »

Have they said that?

No. NPHET have hinted at it, but hopefully, the Gov will look at the bigger picture and come to their senses (No internal travel restrictions in July and August 2020, so would be a poor show if it was worse this year)!

robinph · 03-02-2021 11:57am

The Davestator wrote: »

No. NPHET have hinted at it, but hopefully, the Gov will look at the bigger picture and come to their senses (No internal travel restrictions in July and August 2020, so would be a poor show if it was worse this year)!

If restrictions are worse in 2021 than 2020 then there must be something else really bad about to happen and all vaccines suddenly stop working as they have so far.

ger664 · 03-02-2021 3:07pm

robinph wrote: »

If restrictions are worse in 2021 than 2020 then there must be something else really bad about to happen and all vaccines suddenly stop working as they have so far.

Robin

We wont have enough done in Ireland due to the EU fiddling about with authorizing AZ vaccine and then wondering why a they used EU stock to fill orders already authorized. This will mean we easy restrictions the UK variant will spread quickly and we will be in this lockdown again. Rinse and repeat

RANT

What did someone once say about do the same thing and expecting a different result

Current lockdown is really a farce. I got covid when carrying out essential work. (Allowed), I travelled 250K on Monday to 5 different sites and interacted with 20 people. Essential work(allowed)

If I drive 10K to run up the side of a mountain in my own car on my own. (Not allowed) I will spread the virus and get a fine. It a ridiculous situation

Rant Over

robinph · 03-02-2021 3:24pm

ger664 wrote: »

Robin

We wont have enough done in Ireland due to the EU fiddling about with authorizing AZ vaccine and then wondering why a they used EU stock to fill orders already authorized. This will mean we easy restrictions the UK variant will spread quickly and we will be in this lockdown again. Rinse and repeat

Should have start to have some good data available from the UK in a week or so to show how effective the vaccines are in reducing hospitalisation/ death. The numbers from Israel are already a bit ahead of the UK and are looking good for that. If the reports out today regarding reduced transmission turn out to be correct then that is also great, but might take a bit longer before that is so clear, as the population being vaccinated so far is generally a bit less mobile under normal circumstances. If it does reduce transmission as claimed then once it into the younger age groups it will have a massive impact on the number of cases fairly quickly. Few more weeks and the UK will be well into vaccinating the next few cohorts and the rate that the UK is getting through people they could have the majority of the population done in another couple of months.

Different geography and infrastructure, but with the UK vaccinating 600k in a day last week (fake stats obviously as some vaccination centres report weekly rather than daily) it's possible to get the needles in arms at a very fast rate if everything is thrown at the problem.

Got to keep positive and hope for the best, things are potentially going to turn around fairly quickly after a year of things getting progressively worse each week.

The one thing the UK has done right in the last 5 years of so is vaccinations, I have to take some positives where possible.

average_runner · 05-02-2021 1:51pm

robinph wrote: »

Should have start to have some good data available from the UK in a week or so to show how effective the vaccines are in reducing hospitalisation/ death. The numbers from Israel are already a bit ahead of the UK and are looking good for that. If the reports out today regarding reduced transmission turn out to be correct then that is also great, but might take a bit longer before that is so clear, as the population being vaccinated so far is generally a bit less mobile under normal circumstances. If it does reduce transmission as claimed then once it into the younger age groups it will have a massive impact on the number of cases fairly quickly. Few more weeks and the UK will be well into vaccinating the next few cohorts and the rate that the UK is getting through people they could have the majority of the population done in another couple of months.

Different geography and infrastructure, but with the UK vaccinating 600k in a day last week (fake stats obviously as some vaccination centres report weekly rather than daily) it's possible to get the needles in arms at a very fast rate if everything is thrown at the problem.

Got to keep positive and hope for the best, things are potentially going to turn around fairly quickly after a year of things getting progressively worse each week.

The one thing the UK has done right in the last 5 years of so is vaccinations, I have to take some positives where possible.

Vaccines are a game change. I happy for the over 70's not to get the AZ vaccine, its uproven and not worth a gamble right now.

My dad got his booster vaccine in the nursing home this week.

Dublin Marathon 2020

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