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Daily Million...Scam??

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18 korb


    Hello, anybody still here,


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 korb


    Hello, anybody still here,


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Yes :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    No, I went off to spend my winnings suckers


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    No, I went off to spend my winnings suckers

    :D How much did you win?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    :D How much did you win?

    Actually won 3 euro on it a few weeks ago ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 korb


    culline wrote: »
    I'm here all week!

    Are you still here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 korb


    Well, you might want to have a look at 27 May 2014.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    korb wrote: »
    Well, you might want to have a look at 27 May 2014.


    Ooooookaaaayyy???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,529 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    this thread is hilarious. going to try it for the week for the craic.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Someone won the million yesterday!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    Won tonight someone celebrating big time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    123balltv wrote: »
    Won tonight someone celebrating big time.

    Congrats!!! May it be a blessing for you and yours :)

    *****I thought it said you won it hahaha.....sorry!****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Congrats!!! May it be a blessing for you and yours :)

    *****I thought it said you won it hahaha.....sorry!****

    I'm celebrating a little after reading what is a marvellous thread. The propensity for eejits to feel swindled never ceases to amuse


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Up Mayo!
    A West of Ireland farmer has become the latest lottery millionaire.

    The delighted farmer won €1m million in the Daily Million game on Monday night and claimed his prize at National Lottery Headquarters this morning.

    The married man, who wishes to remain anonymous and is from the Claremorris area of Co Mayo, bought his €1.50 quick pick ticket for the Daily Million Draw on Monday in Centra, Balla, Castlebar, Co Mayo.

    "Yesterday I heard that a winning ticket was sold in Balla, where I bought my Daily Million ticket. The ticket had been laying in the car since Monday, which was unlocked. So I looked the numbers up on the Lottery website and then went out to the car to get the ticket. When I saw the first number, I just knew – I was delighted,” he smiled.

    "It’s an amazing feeling when your six numbers match up. I can’t describe it – it’s like a dream!” he said.

    The winner plans to put the cheque in the bank and think about how he will spend his winnings.

    “There’ll be a few things – holidays, maybe a new car, and we’ll put the kids through their education,” the winner said.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/farmer-claims-1m-lotto-prize-after-leaving-winning-ticket-in-his-unlocked-car-overnight-31040261.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Congrats!!! May it be a blessing for you and yours :)

    *****I thought it said you won it hahaha.....sorry!****

    :) I wish, i wish can't even win an argument


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Herrick786


    Euro million , lotto and daily million is fake , it's a scam , don't play. Best advice I have given , rest is upto u all. Don't play its your money . It's all scam of getting money from you all. I have seen everything but can not do anything. Sorry guys but this is truth.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Herrick786 wrote: »
    Euro million , lotto and daily million is fake , it's a scam , don't play. Best advice I have given , rest is upto u all. Don't play its your money . It's all scam of getting money from you all. I have seen everything but can not do anything. Sorry guys but this is truth.

    :( Wont someone think of the poor retired ontario teachers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭duckysauce


    Herrick786 wrote: »
    Euro million , lotto and daily million is fake , it's a scam , don't play. Best advice I have given , rest is upto u all. Don't play its your money . It's all scam of getting money from you all. I have seen everything but can not do anything. Sorry guys but this is truth.

    thanks I will give it up so due to your expert advice .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Herrick786 wrote: »
    Euro million , lotto and daily million is fake , it's a scam , don't play. Best advice I have given , rest is upto u all. Don't play its your money . It's all scam of getting money from you all. I have seen everything but can not do anything. Sorry guys but this is truth.


    Ah now that's a teaser post if I ever read one. We need details!!!:cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 korb


    Herrick786 wrote: »
    Euro million , lotto and daily million is fake , it's a scam , don't play. Best advice I have given , rest is upto u all. Don't play its your money . It's all scam of getting money from you all. I have seen everything but can not do anything. Sorry guys but this is truth.

    Can we all put our minds together and bit this thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    no live draw? wtf does anyone play this thing? never seems to be announcements of winners


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 kean1


    Keplar240B wrote: »
    no live draw? wtf does anyone play this thing? never seems to be announcements of winners

    Funny but you can join a daily million lotto group in facebook to get your number.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 kean1


    korb wrote: »
    Can we all put our minds together and bit this thing?

    I agree with you, for me I love daily million . You can be part of daily millions lotto group in Facebook.

    So interesting


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 lewizaaaah


    Collie D wrote: »
    I don't know where to start with this post.

    O my Good God , this is laughing out loud funny , I hope you have realised this and stopped gambling


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Treehouse72


    I have a conundrum, or perhaps a game-theoretical head-scratcher about the Daily Million.

    Please note, I am not a mathematician and I'm not a dreamer; I don't think I've suddenly cracked the secret sauce to winning the DM, and I'm sure there's a simple maths answer to my problem. It's just something that came to mind that I can't quite square in my head.

    A hypothetical scenario.

    > Imagine the same 100,000 people play DM every day, and nobody else does. So the entire universe of DM players is 100,000. (I ponder how accurate this number might be in the note at the bottom, but let's go with it for now for the purposes of the hypothetical).

    > The odds for any of these people to win the DM or DM+ jackpot are c. 3m:1 for each draw. http://www.lottogenie.com/html/odds.html

    > Back to the real world, Lotto says there've been 28 DM or DM+ winners since 2012: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/national-lottery-expands-daily-million-to-two-draws-per-day-34637983.html. So that's about 7 wins on average pa 2012-2016. (We can stipulate that this distribution may be freakish, and not match the long term, but let's go with the figure of 7 pa for now.)

    > So here's the conundrum: How are my odds 3m:1 when we know that 7 out of 100,000 players will win a jackpot each year? Why aren't my odds 100,000:1 rather than 3m:1?

    To put it another way: My only competition in the race to 1 of the 7 inevitable prizes is, axiomatically, the 99,999 other people who play.

    .............

    A quick note on how many people play DM/DM+:

    I suspect my 100,000 guesstimate for the total universe of DM players may not be too far off. On Lotto's website you can see there are between c.300 and c.600 winners in each DM and DM+ draw, making c.1,000 winners per draw. I believe in a 39-ball draw, your chances of winning any prize is c. 30:1. (http://www.lottogenie.com/html/odds.html) suggesting a total of c. 30,000 players per game.

    Further, this makes me think the entire universe of players would be pretty limited. I suspect a lot of people never play DM, and I also suspect there's a hardcore who (almost) always play it. The middle ground - those who play occasionally - is probably pretty small, and of those people most would play only a handful of the 700+ draws a year (2 a day.) I suspect it's the same 90%+ of people who play every draw. In this context, 100,000 may even slightly overstate the universe of players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Why aren't my odds 100,000:1 rather than 3m:1?
    Because you're comparing the odds of winning one draw to the odds of winning any draw over a year. Lets say you enter one draw every day for a year: you increase your odds of winning the top prize (over the year) from 3,000,000 : 1 to 3,000,000 : 365, or ~8200 : 1.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭dpe


    I have a conundrum, or perhaps a game-theoretical head-scratcher about the Daily Million.

    Please note, I am not a mathematician and I'm not a dreamer; I don't think I've suddenly cracked the secret sauce to winning the DM, and I'm sure there's a simple maths answer to my problem. It's just something that came to mind that I can't quite square in my head.

    A hypothetical scenario.

    > Imagine the same 100,000 people play DM every day, and nobody else does. So the entire universe of DM players is 100,000. (I ponder how accurate this number might be in the note at the bottom, but let's go with it for now for the purposes of the hypothetical).

    > The odds for any of these people to win the DM or DM+ jackpot are c. 3m:1 for each draw. http://www.lottogenie.com/html/odds.html

    > Back to the real world, Lotto says there've been 28 DM or DM+ winners since 2012: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/national-lottery-expands-daily-million-to-two-draws-per-day-34637983.html. So that's about 7 wins on average pa 2012-2016. (We can stipulate that this distribution may be freakish, and not match the long term, but let's go with the figure of 7 pa for now.)

    > So here's the conundrum: How are my odds 3m:1 when we know that 7 out of 100,000 players will win a jackpot each year? Why aren't my odds 100,000:1 rather than 3m:1?

    To put it another way: My only competition in the race to 1 of the 7 inevitable prizes is, axiomatically, the 99,999 other people who play.

    .............

    A quick note on how many people play DM/DM+:

    I suspect my 100,000 guesstimate for the total universe of DM players may not be too far off. On Lotto's website you can see there are between c.300 and c.600 winners in each DM and DM+ draw, making c.1,000 winners per draw. I believe in a 39-ball draw, your chances of winning any prize is c. 30:1. (http://www.lottogenie.com/html/odds.html) suggesting a total of c. 30,000 players per game.

    Further, this makes me think the entire universe of players would be pretty limited. I suspect a lot of people never play DM, and I also suspect there's a hardcore who (almost) always play it. The middle ground - those who play occasionally - is probably pretty small, and of those people most would play only a handful of the 700+ draws a year (2 a day.) I suspect it's the same 90%+ of people who play every draw. In this context, 100,000 may even slightly overstate the universe of players.

    Your odds of winning have nothing to do with other players. (your odds of sharing a win do, but not actually winning at all), and your odds don't improve with each additional draw you play. They are exactly the same every time you play, which in the case of Daily Million (39 balls, 5 selections) is 1 in 575,757 per line.

    The only time other players matter in lottery draws is when a top prize might be split, and because you need other players playing to help the jackpot to roll faster. In the case of Daily Million, the jackpot doesn't roll, so other players are irrelevant to your playing of the game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    corcaigh1 wrote: »

    Ok, a few people misunderstand statistics.

    The current events surrounding the National Lottery are a serious cock-up.

    I warned them that years ago that privatising it wouldn't be a good idea, but they didn't listen, is all I'd say for the time being.

    https://www.rnl.ie/about-us/protected-disclosures/

    Protected Disclosures Annual Report
    Section 22 of the Protected Disclosures Act 2014 requires the publication of a report each year relating to the number of protected disclosures made in the preceding year and any actions taken in response to such disclosures.

    No protected disclosures were received by the Office of the Regulator of the National Lottery in the reporting periods up to 31st December 2016.

    No protected disclosures were received by the Office of the Regulator of the National Lottery in the reporting period 1st January 2017 to 31st December 2017.

    One communication was received by the Office of the Regulator of the National Lottery in the reporting period 1st January to 31st December 2018 that could be considered a protected disclosure and it was treated as such. The communication was received from an external third party. Following assessment, involving internal and external expertise, the Regulator determined that no action was required in respect of this communication.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    corcaigh1 wrote: »

    Totally!
    Whilst not related to D'Mills, reading about the scratchcards and their massive customer error (breach of contract) is very concerning
    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/1212/1098718-leaders-questions/

    Even when one of the chaps representing the lotto folks was on to Joe (radio)
    https://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/podcasts/

    - He gave off a blase attitude, and was dismissive as to the breach with the customer, and coundn't wait to promote the next batch of scratchies.

    So much wrong with these things, would never buy them and recommend no one should, scratch yourself instead.

    Think he mentioned some of the odds for a mid 50k prize being 2m/1 or so.

    These are the very same odds I occasionally use to aim for 1m squid prizes, at lower outlay, and using actual real-world, televised and live verified events. (EuroMills Hotpick 5).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭todolist


    Having a lotto draw on christmas day shows how ruthless and greedy this company is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭[Steve]


    Played Daily Millions a handful of times, won €500 quid there back in August. Haven't touched it since, odds of ever getting a win that high again, no hope ha.


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