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Avengers: Endgame [** SPOILERS FROM POST 613 **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    As endings go and considering this is putting a full stop on 11 years of movies. I think they bloody did it. For the most part.

    I have a few cringe moments and Captain Marvel seems like she is a magnet for them but overall for what it needed to achieve. It does it.

    So I was against them doing time travel simply because it opens the door to solving too many problems but I think they addressed and covered it pretty well. Firstly in that they need the stuff from Hank Pim I forget it's name to move around in time but also because Tony Stark is key to them getting it right.

    I'm sad to see the end of Tony but this is a good way for him to bow out. I liked the moment he has with his father.

    I like that Cap gets to go back and live the life he always wanted.

    Was surprised at black widow dying, I thought we were for sure getting a solo movie.

    The threat Thanos carried on Earth given what we seen him do before was huge. I thought he was definitely killing Cap.

    My mind is a bit scrambled right now and it's hard to process all I've seen tonight. All I'll leave anyone reading this with who hasn't seen.

    Try to stay off Twitter. Try to see when you can.

    There's a few words that you could say that would spoil the whole thing so I'm sure there will be a few idiots who try it.


    Edit: also no end credits. There's some nice effects where they show some artwork and the avengers actors signatures. It's nicely done and after the hectic nature of what you just watched it's nice to sit and relax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Just back from 3D IMAX in Cineworld.

    Big Screen: Yes, do this!
    3D: some but you can live without.
    Kids rating: I'd say this is a hard 12A.

    This film was great! It was huge! It must have cost a fortune!
    It rockets along from start to finish. It can be watched without the previous films but all the previous films are of benefit with nods all round.

    The start: Starting with
    Hawkeye and showing the impact on his family felt like the right choice. It set the story right for what was to come.

    The story: That was only massive!
    It was hard to shake the idea that Iron Man and Cap were gonna be key players. I felt the biggest hints to Starks fate was the conversation with Potts after putting the kid to bed.
    Notable wins for me included:
    - The EPIC HUGE battle before, during and after all the portals opened up
    - The elevator scene
    - Including so much of the previous cast. Only Hugo Weaving the big absense but infinity war put in some groundwork for expecting that.
    - They did the start showing impact of what Thanos did really well.
    - Cap catching the Hammer was kinda cool!
    - Working out the Soul Stone. That was done well. Poor aul Clint had to deal with some mad amount of loss in this film.
    While I'm sure someone will pick out some continuity mistakes at a later point, this felt just fine and like it had considered and included enough.

    The ending: Well, that
    felt like it wrapped up some stories (notably Iron Man and Captain American) really well. It's not every film, film franchise or tv show that can figure out how to pull something like that off. Then it set up to continue others (obviously Black Panther and Captain Marvel). Though some open questions about the Films and TV shows to come like.. the ones with Vision and Black Widow.

    Thor and the Guardians in a next film!?! That could be cool!

    Also.. where'd the Hammer that Cap took with him to the past go?

    Gah, there was just so much in the film!!!

    But Finally.. almost MOST IMPORTANTLY:
    Hail Hydra!
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    Well.
    I thought I was ready. I wasn't.
    - Not sure if I enjoyed the time travel bits. I'll need to rewatch.
    - Cap with Mjolinor - audible yelps from our crowd, and maybe me. Brilliant stuff
    - The fight scene - when the portals opened. Just wow.
    - Close to tears a few time - tony & peter, tony dying etc
    - KORG :D:D:D
    - Cannot wait for Asgardians of the Galaxy
    - Surprised Nick Fury had such a small part
    - Only just realised Cap gave mjolinor back to past Thor
    - I've devoted a lot of hours watching and rewatching all of these. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up Cap and Tony :(

    I'm still processing
    Great movie. Very well done and nicely tied up


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,608 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    I felt like that was the conclusion of Kevin Feige's love letter to that aspect of the MCU.
    What an amazing film, and when watched as 2 halves of a whole movie it still works.

    Does anyone else think that they'd be as happy if Marvel split off mutants into their own multiverse ? Its getting harder to give all the characters their own beats. Even in Endgame that last battle could easily have gone another 10 minutes to give some characters a bit of breathing space.

    For what its worth I think that Spiderman: FFH is set after homecoming but before Infinity War.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    who was was the guy standing in front of Maria hill and gen Rossat the funeral?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,608 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    There were a few odd additions - I was sure I saw the kid from Iron Man 3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭circadian


    Can a mod tag this thread with spoilers please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Lads spoiler tag everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    who was was the guy standing in front of Maria hill and gen Rossat the funeral?
    The kid with the shed from Iron Man 3


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭Beric Dondarrion


    Wow! went to the midnight show in my hometown last night (double bill with Infinity War).

    Some absoultely great humour in this
    "You OK Lebowski", "I thought you were a build-a-bear"
    and some stand out feel good moments
    Cap taking up Thor's Hammer:)

    Still think Infinity War has the edge over this one but that's not to take anything away from what I just saw on the screen. A fitting end to the entire 10 year MCU "Infinity Saga".
    I also really enjoyed the scenes with Thor and his mother on Asgard. The Dark World is not looked on too favorably in the MCU but these few scenes do their best to add a bit of emotional heft to what Thor actually lost in that movie IMHO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    One small disappointment for me was (TV series spoilers)
    Aside from a small cameo for Mr. Jarvis, very little of the TV series' was represented here. It wouldn't have taken much to perhaps see Daisy quake up an alien, or Lock Jaw running around in the final battle, maybe even give the Iron Fist one last chance to show us that glowing bullet trick he learned.
    At the very least, they should have tried to work something of Coulson into the film, even if it was maybe just some archive footage from a S.H.I.E.L.D. file from before the Battle of New York. His character appears to have finally died, even on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. although that might not be the end of him there from any teasers I've seen, it'll be interesting to see where that goes from here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 LGadd14


    Went to the midnight showing in IMAX and it ranks among my top 3 favourite cinema experiences. The crowd were awesome, think they broke into applause 5-6 times.
    The first two acts of Endgame boast scenes that would be the highlights of any other movie, maybe even those in the MCU. The third act completely overshadows those moments though, that last 30 minutes was the kind of stuff you could only dream of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    Not a spoiler at all, but there is a scene early in the movie that reminded me so much of Jeff Treacy from Thunderbirds. Fans of that show should know it when they see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,888 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    They kept the thor thing quite in promos etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭Sappy404


    I think I was more giddy for those 3 hours than any other movie experience I've had since I was a kid. Maybe ever. Incredibly fun, absolutely satisfying, and mindblowing that they achieved it on this kind of scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    Was every bit of that planned out since Iron Man?
    Was it a rough framework and plot? And they filled in the dialogue etc as each movie came around?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    Great bit :
    That elevator scene ! Great to see that Frank Grillo is still hitting the Gym hard !

    Another Great bit :
    Homage to the 360 tracking shot in the original Avengers NY battle

    Still more :
    Quill intro from GoTG

    Small disappointment :
    Thanos not given enough guile and heft. Not as much as Infinity War anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I'll see it tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,636 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Biggest disappointment -
    who the f*ck brings loads of food , especially loud stuff like crisps (multiple bags I might add) to a midnight showing and then proceeds to stuff their face right up to the last third of the film ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    McDermotX wrote: »
    Biggest disappointment -
    who the f*ck brings loads of food , especially loud stuff like crisps (multiple bags I might add) to a midnight showing and then proceeds to stuff their face right up to the last third of the film ?

    Thanos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭blockfighter


    My biggest issue with the film was the idiot beside me who wouldn't shut up and tried to guess what characters were going to say before they said it.

    Need to see this film again. I'm sure there's loads of stuff I've probably missed. Midnight screenings are great craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭pah


    McDermotX wrote: »
    Biggest disappointment -
    who the f*ck brings loads of food , especially loud stuff like crisps (multiple bags I might add) to a midnight showing and then proceeds to stuff their face right up to the last third of the film ?

    Agreed who is still opening plastic wrappers in the last 10 mins :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,279 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I'm far closer to my Thor physique than I'd like to be, honestly. Didn't like thor at all


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Thought it was great....I'd agree Infinity War probably edges it.

    Hats off to Brolin who I thought was brilliant again. I liked how his performance was from a different angle.

    Actors all did a great job especially Downey Jr.......
    well what can I say about the guy, magnificent way to go out. Loved the look between Tony and Strange as Tony copped what had to be done.

    Started to quietly wave my fist in delight when
    the sling rings began to open up to Cap saying assemble.
    .

    Bit confused about the
    timeline, specifically around Peter and his mates.

    Sorry to hear people had their heads melted by idiots. Decided to go at 9.30 in the hope I'd beat the crowds and thankfully did. No knob behaviour at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,279 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Thought it was great....I'd agree Infinity War probably edges it.

    Hats off to Brolin who I thought was brilliant again. I liked how his performance was from a different angle.

    Actors all did a great job especially Downey Jr.......
    well what can I say about the guy, magnificent way to go out. Loved the look between Tony and Strange as Tony copped what had to be done.

    Started to quietly wave my fist in delight when
    the sling rings began to open up to Cap saying assemble.
    .

    Bit confused about the
    timeline, specifically around Peter and his mates.

    Sorry to hear people had their heads melted by idiots. Decided to go at 9.30 in the hope I'd beat the crowds and thankfully did. No knob behaviour at all.

    Yep. Said the same re.
    timeline and the school kids


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    McDermotX wrote: »
    When good, it's very good, but has more than a few eye rolling moments that just stick in the craw.

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way :)
    After reading the 1st slew of reviews and impressions here and elsewhere...

    I was honestly disappointed.
    I am worried that it's a sign I may be getting older, more cynical and a little jaded but there was much that just didn't hang together well IMO.

    Pacing issues and inconsistent story telling and the auld "enemy" of middle aged(I'm not!!)
    White men with a few too many nods to political correctness, moments that I feel mysoginistic or grumpy at feeling bad over!
    But moments that plainly added nothing to the narrative and were contrived solely to give a "right on" moment that were to my mind at the expense of the overall arc of the movie.

    It may be a sign that Marvel have done the Avengers arc so very well that these little foibles can detract from what should rightly be seen as a master piece of multi year planning, story-lining and sheer brave audacity in the risks decided on 12/13 years ago that brought us to this point.

    I think a lot of movie Marvel fans take it for granted now that Marvel's commitment to their Universe.
    That all characters can and do exist in the same canon, that all stories can be layers of, and vital to an over-arching narrative that will pay off so many times and so many unexpected ways...

    That it's now "expected" that others with a similar IP will do similar.
    Marvel's MCU has become a standard that all over comic book and franchise type IPs will be judged by.

    The Avengers saga is epic, is brilliant and this draws a wonderful line under it.
    There are parts that I am very disappointed in, last night leaving the Cinema it did seem to be quite a common reaction talking to others.

    If I was to give a knee jerk score last night it would have been a 5/10 as there was still a taste of that disappointment lingering.

    In retrospect, after digesting my own thoughts.
    It is a very solid 7/10.
    Nowhere near the heights of Winter Soldier, Avengers Assemble, GOTG or Ragnarok...

    But still better than a lot of the more recent efforts!

    (See why I think I may be becoming a jaded cynic ;) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Why did i read the non-spoiler comments i may just have to go see it this weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Have to say it was immensely satisfying seeing
    Thanos done in twice. Brolin played him as a proper **** this time which made it all the better. Wasn't expecting him to be decapitated which provoked a few gasps.


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    I just wasn't a fan of the tone. Immensely entertaining film nonetheless.

    And up until infinity war, I could have taken or left the whole superhero franchise.

    Well played. Solid 7/10 as a final two films


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    Bit confused about the
    timeline, specifically around Peter and his mates.
    Yep. Said the same re.
    timeline and the school kids

    What is so difficult to understand that the next Spiderman film is in Phase 4 and that Endgame marks the end of Phase 3? It's not a prequel :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭V9


    What is so difficult to understand that the next Spiderman film is in Phase 4 and that Endgame marks the end of Phase 3? It's not a prequel :rolleyes:

    Spider man is the end of phase 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Just finished... Pretty epic in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    banie01 wrote: »
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way :)
    After reading the 1st slew of reviews and impressions here and elsewhere...

    I was honestly disappointed.
    I am worried that it's a sign I may be getting older, more cynical and a little jaded but there was much that just didn't hang together well IMO.

    Pacing issues and inconsistent story telling and the auld "enemy" of middle aged(I'm not!!)
    White men with a few too many nods to political correctness, moments that I feel mysoginistic or grumpy at feeling bad over!
    But moments that plainly added nothing to the narrative and were contrived solely to give a "right on" moment that were to my mind at the expense of the overall arc of the movie.

    It may be a sign that Marvel have done the Avengers arc so very well that these little foibles can detract from what should rightly be seen as a master piece of multi year planning, story-lining and sheer brave audacity in the risks decided on 12/13 years ago that brought us to this point.

    I think a lot of movie Marvel fans take it for granted now that Marvel's commitment to their Universe.
    That all characters can and do exist in the same canon, that all stories can be layers of, and vital to an over-arching narrative that will pay off so many times and so many unexpected ways...

    That it's now "expected" that others with a similar IP will do similar.
    Marvel's MCU has become a standard that all over comic book and franchise type IPs will be judged by.

    The Avengers saga is epic, is brilliant and this draws a wonderful line under it.
    There are parts that I am very disappointed in, last night leaving the Cinema it did seem to be quite a common reaction talking to others.

    If I was to give a knee jerk score last night it would have been a 5/10 as there was still a taste of that disappointment lingering.

    In retrospect, after digesting my own thoughts.
    It is a very solid 7/10.
    Nowhere near the heights of Winter Soldier, Avengers Assemble, GOTG or Ragnarok...

    But still better than a lot of the more recent efforts!

    (See why I think I may be becoming a jaded cynic ;) )

    I think that sort of sums up how I feel about it.

    I have to say that moment where all the
    women heroes come to together to fight in the end battle
    was truly terrible. In a massive
    battle all the woman will gravitate to each other at the same moment
    ?

    And captain marvel felt a bit
    over powered to be honest
    . I know people will say that’s how she was in comics but I don’t care for it. I enjoy the movies and making a character introduced only a few weeks ago and making them integral to our heroes journey was bad. It was liking trying to make me care about
    Hawkeyes
    story arc but at least he had been in other movies!

    I think 7/10 is a very fair rating. There was some great humor and some savage moments of great cinema. Maybe on second viewing I will like it more (happened with infinity for me) but I actually at the moment I prefer infinity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    V9 wrote: »
    Spider man is the end of phase 3.

    It's still not a prequel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Does anybody
    really care for the replacement or secondary characters who will now take over? I think these 21 movie arc could be marvel hitting its peak and there is only one direction to go from here

    Asides from
    GOTG with Thor
    I really don’t care much for any of the
    remaining heroes
    or what happens. I’m thinking I will have to enjoy
    future movies through my children’s eyes.
    ..


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Does anybody
    really care for the replacement or secondary characters who will now take over? I think these 21 movie arc could be marvel hitting its peak and there is only one direction to go from here

    Asides from
    GOTG with Thor
    I really don’t care much for any of the
    remaining heroes
    or what happens. I’m thinking I will have to enjoy
    future movies through my children’s eyes.
    ..
    Not really interested myself outside of Cap and Iron Man - RDJ in particular has left big shoes to fill who I just can't see anyone picking up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Does anybody
    really care for the replacement or secondary characters who will now take over? I think these 21 movie arc could be marvel hitting its peak and there is only one direction to go from here

    Asides from
    GOTG with Thor
    I really don’t care much for any of the
    remaining heroes
    or what happens. I’m thinking I will have to enjoy
    future movies through my children’s eyes.
    ..

    Was chatting with a colleague about this and it's quite possible. We've been putting in the emotional investment into the series over the last 11 (I think) years and from the reception Endgame is receiving from all sources, it seems that the investment will finally pay off. The hole is filled and we're satiated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,279 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    What is so difficult to understand that the next Spiderman film is in Phase 4 and that Endgame marks the end of Phase 3? It's not a prequel :rolleyes:

    What?

    1. it is part of Phase 3, not 4.
    2.
    The issue is the everyone who was snapped came back, 5 years after they got snapped. So for any kid in his class that didn't get snapped, they are now 5 years older than their friends who have come back. I assume it will be a point in FFH, where there are friends that have moved on. But the scene we saw also had everyone apart from Peter and his buddy acting normally. It was established at the start of the movie that people were having a hard time. It also plays into my concern from the FFH trailer that there wasn't a visible indication in the scenery or character behavior, that anything at all had happened re/ Thanos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I'm just going to assume
    Peter, MJ and Ned were all snapped


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,279 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Does anybody
    really care for the replacement or secondary characters who will now take over? I think these 21 movie arc could be marvel hitting its peak and there is only one direction to go from here

    Asides from
    GOTG with Thor
    I really don’t care much for any of the
    remaining heroes
    or what happens. I’m thinking I will have to enjoy
    future movies through my children’s eyes.
    ..
    I think Marvel are going to have to bring in Fantastic 4 (and bring them in succesfully) as a starting point for injecting new life and interest in the franchise. Hopefully they can keep Spider-Man as well, I feel they will need him.

    I'm not a fan of Black Panther, but I think Shuri could be a star - somewhat taking over from Iron Man on the tech side.

    Will be interesting to see how Eternals and the Asian character are received and play into their plans going forward.

    Captain Marvel is the most intresting to me, in that I can't work out how she will play out. She added so little to endgame, I'm not sure why they felt the need to introduce her so late. Her character portrayal is currently not what I would like it to be. I don't know if that is down to timing issues, but if they don't 'fix' her, she will be a big concern. Way too powerful at the moment. I had assumed Endgame would have some plot point would depower her a bit. but no.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    What?

    1. it is part of Phase 3, not 4.
    2.
    The issue is the everyone who was snapped came back, 5 years after they got snapped. So for any kid in his class that didn't get snapped, they are now 5 years older than their friends who have come back. I assume it will be a point in FFH, where there are friends that have moved on. But the scene we saw also had everyone apart from Peter and his buddy acting normally. It was established at the start of the movie that people were having a hard time. It also plays into my concern from the FFH trailer that there wasn't a visible indication in the scenery or character behavior, that anything at all had happened re/ Thanos.

    My bad on the phase 3/4 mixup.

    As for FFH: The great Kevin Feige has been quite clear on it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Does anybody
    really care for the replacement or secondary characters who will now take over? I think these 21 movie arc could be marvel hitting its peak and there is only one direction to go from here

    Asides from
    GOTG with Thor
    I really don’t care much for any of the
    remaining heroes
    or what happens. I’m thinking I will have to enjoy
    future movies through my children’s eyes.
    ..
    Yeah I feel the same. Not sure I'll have the same attachment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,888 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Satisfied with that and will deff watch again

    Felt it was fairly slow in parts and you would be waiting for something big too happen but thinking about it now it was excentally paced and obv tied in with IW very well. They kept
    Thors new image
    fairly quite and it was odd too say but nice seeing
    Korg and that the surviving Asgardians got a new home
    .

    So
    The Black Widow movie, how will this work if she is Dead ???

    loved the battle scene and when
    the vanished came back but a few things. Why was Wasp there as she was never previously involved with any of the characters except for Antman ???. Where was Vision ??
    Felt the
    girl power scene was very in your face.
    .

    Loved the
    time travel and seeing younger characters of Dr Pym and Howard Stark. Very sad too see Iron Man/Tony Stark die as he was one of my favourites and was the start of the whole thing. A role RDJ was made for and could never be replaced

    So with
    Captain America retired and now Falcon is Cap now (Would of prefered Bucky too get it). Is there any chance we might see Old man cap appear in a mentoring role in the future or is he gone off too his retirement village for good ??

    2020 could be a quite enough year in the MCU but its exciting too see where now for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭micks_address


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Satisfied with that and will deff watch again

    Felt it was fairly slow in parts and you would be waiting for something big too happen but thinking about it now it was excentally paced and obv tied in with IW very well. They kept
    Thors new image
    fairly quite and it was odd too say but nice seeing
    Korg and that the surviving Asgardians got a new home
    .

    So
    The Black Widow movie, how will this work if she is Dead ???

    loved the battle scene and when
    the vanished came back but a few things. Why was Wasp there as she was never previously involved with any of the characters except for Antman ???. Where was Vision ??
    Felt the
    girl power scene was very in your face.
    .

    Loved the
    time travel and seeing younger characters of Dr Pym and Howard Stark. Very sad too see Iron Man/Tony Stark die as he was one of my favourites and was the start of the whole thing. A role RDJ was made for and could never be replaced

    So with
    Captain America retired and now Falcon is Cap now (Would of prefered Bucky too get it). Is there any chance we might see Old man cap appear in a mentoring role in the future or is he gone off too his retirement village for good ??

    2020 could be a quite enough year in the MCU but its exciting too see where now for them
    Re Vision I suppose he wasn't killed by the snap so he was dead dead in infinity wars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭micks_address


    how did captain America age? And what's the point in passing the shield to falcon? The nodding approval of the winter soldier as well? Was that the kid from iron Man 3 at the funeral? Are they setting him up as the next iron Man? Is Natasha gone ? Any idea what the hammering noise was at end of the credits?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    Any idea what the hammering noise was at end of the credits?
    A throw back to Tony building his first suit in that cave?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    how did captain America age? And what's the point in passing the shield to falcon? The nodding approval of the winter soldier as well? Was that the kid from iron Man 3 at the funeral? Are they setting him up as the next iron Man? Is Natasha gone ? Any idea what the hammering noise was at end of the credits?

    I can’t understand
    falcon becoming captain America
    . TWS has
    very similar powers to Cap so it was a no brainer. Is captain America now going to be a tony stark lite character (ie normal joe soap but for his suit). When you think of how falcon and Cap met out running , it was emphasized how much stronger and fitted Cap was to falcon

    Cap basically
    went back in time and stayed there
    . When he
    didn’t come back he effectively lived a full life
    . I can’t fully get my head around the
    time paradox. Tony living from 1945 to 2019 would of impacted on at least some things. Did he basically not help anybody ever again or help the world cause to do so would interfere with the future?

    Couldn’t work out who that kid was
    at the funeral, I was too busy not caring about jermey renners family/character

    Anybody who died
    in infinity war stayed dead. Everybody from the snap survived. Natasha, vision and Gamora we knew are dead. Gomora 2 is replacing her


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Drumpot wrote: »
    I can’t understand
    falcon becoming captain America
    . TWS has
    very similar powers to Cap so it was a no brainer. Is captain America now going to be a tony stark lite character (ie normal joe soap but for his suit). When you think of how falcon and Cap met out running , it was emphasized how much stronger and fitted Cap was to falcon

    Cap basically
    went back in time and stayed there
    . When he
    didn’t come back he effectively lived a full life
    . I can’t fully get my head around the
    time paradox. Tony living from 1945 to 2019 would of impacted on at least some things. Did he basically not help anybody ever again or help the world cause to do so would interfere with the future?

    Couldn’t work out who that kid was
    at the funeral, I was too busy not caring about jermey renners family/character

    Anybody who died
    in infinity war stayed dead. Everybody from the snap survived. Natasha, vision and Gamora we knew are dead. Gomora 2 is replacing her
    I took it as Cap retired from fighting once he went back.

    Didn't know who that lad was at Tony's funeral either - apparently it's the kid from IM3.

    I think Mackie is getting his own show on the Disney channel being launched so it will probably be a grittier/grounded take on Cap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Drumpot wrote: »

    I have to say that moment where all the
    women heroes come to together to fight in the end battle
    was truly terrible. In a massive
    battle all the woman will gravitate to each other at the same moment
    ?
    Its a nod to the A-Force comic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Its a nod to the A-Force comic

    Thanks for clarifying McLoughlin.

    Whether it was a nod to the comic or to #metoo (could be both ok fairness) , I found it nauseating. It didn’t bring humor or any emotional punch, it added nothing good to the movie.

    I am actually looking forward to going to this again becahse there is a lot to love about the movie and maybe crap like that won’t annoy me as much knowing it might of been a comic nod.


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