The wtf plumbing thread

Irish Steve · 01-08-2016 3:18pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Nice work if you can avoid it!!

In passing how did you get fuel back into the tank?

Believe it or not, that was relatively easy, as the barrels were in good condition, I put appropriate fittings on both fittings, and made a 3/4" dip tube to go on the large fitting, and my small compressor with about 10PSI blew it all back into the tank without any pain or hassle, nearly 800 Litres, without a spill, and less than a litre in the barrels after the move.

I have to admit to keeping the important pieces of that rig in case I get another tank to empty and refill, as this was very easy to do.

I was happy to be able to help my mate sort it, he has some health issues that meant there was/is no way he could do the job, but I have to admit to having been less than impressed when I found out what there. He's had problems with the pipes freezing in the past, hopefully, the changes we're made will remove that issue in future.

Sam Kade · 22-08-2016 9:00pm

Plumbers that say they'll come and fix a leak but never bother their arse coming. I know a man that had a leak in his bathroom rang a plumber he knew and of course he never turned up, next time he met him the plumber asked did you fix the leak he said yes and the plumber said I knew you would be able to do it :rolleyes:

K.Flyer · 11-09-2016 12:29am

Its when you see it... :pac:

Wearb · 11-09-2016 1:12am

K.Flyer wrote: »

Its when you see it... :pac:

Ok I give up. Except for the clip on the insulation I don't see anything strange.

K.Flyer · 11-09-2016 1:40am

Wearb wrote: »

Ok I give up. Except for the clip on the insulation I don't see anything strange.

Sorry Wearb, it just made me laugh out loud seeing a row of nail clips holding the cable to the cylinder

Wearb · 11-09-2016 7:48am

K.Flyer wrote: »

Sorry Wearb, it just made me laugh out loud seeing a row of nail clips holding the cable to the cylinder

Well at least it wasn't that whale-like scruff to the left of the clip. I was thinking that if it was that, then "he's lost it altogether"

corkgsxr · 11-09-2016 3:52pm

I'm offering a rad fixing service lads.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 11-09-2016 3:56pm

What is it? Tech 7?

corkgsxr · 12-09-2016 12:10pm

MrMac84 wrote: »

What is it? Tech 7?

Felt harder. Maybe bodywork filler or chemical metal.

DGOBS · 12-09-2016 8:24pm

Rad next to the loo is it? (eww, urine corrosion)

corkgsxr · 26-09-2016 6:10pm

Non return taken off on a semi sealed system taken off the main tank??

Dtp1979 · 26-09-2016 6:30pm

corkgsxr wrote: »

Non return taken off on a semi sealed system taken off the main tank??

I see that a good bit

corkgsxr · 26-09-2016 7:40pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I see that a good bit

Me too but for sake of a 10er loop

Heating chemicals are toxic. And heating up main tank could cause legonares

Dardania · 26-09-2016 7:50pm

Is that the expansion too, with a valve on it, closed? Or is there an expansion vessel somewhere else?

Odelay · 26-09-2016 8:27pm

corkgsxr wrote: »

Me too but for sake of a 10er loop

Heating chemicals are toxic. And heating up main tank could cause legonares

Not a plumber. I was looking at the water tank in the attic over the weekend, something did not look right to me and the above now has me very concerned. The expansion from the heating goes into the main tank. Is that normal?? I'm used to seing a seperate expansion tank.

tonyroc · 05-10-2016 2:26am

corkgsxr wrote: »

Non return taken off on a semi sealed system taken off the main tank??

Here is a video of two single non returns on same pipe backflow 100 ml a minute . water results show levels bacteria 500 times higher than eu guidelines .Polish microbiologist said house should boarded up untill repaired .all 5 family members sick . Plumbers i told about the dangers they all laughed at me. Basically called me a nut job . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrvXuY7iF08

tonyroc · 05-10-2016 2:38am

corkgsxr wrote: »

Me too but for sake of a 10er loop

Heating chemicals are toxic. And heating up main tank could cause legonares

When you disconnect the flexi you have unintentionally just created a dead leg on the feed pipe if its in the hot press any bacteria in water feed on the rubber in flexi when the hot press hits 18c bacteria builds up and feeds into the whole system. It doesn't even need the rubber

tonyroc · 05-10-2016 12:31pm

This is toxicology report on just one ingredient used is inhibitors its mutagenic it can mutate bacteria its carcinogenic

tonyroc · 05-10-2016 12:33pm

Here is some "expert" plumbing in a rented apartment in Cork

Sleeper12 · 05-10-2016 1:16pm

tonyroc wrote:

Here is some "expert" plumbing in a rented apartment in Cork

Those are the worst fittings in the world. I don't know how any plumber ever used them. I hate them.

Dtp1979 · 05-10-2016 1:41pm

tonyroc wrote: »

This is toxicology report on just one ingredient used is inhibitors its mutagenic it can mutate bacteria its carcinogenic

Funny that the condition is called RADS

gctest50 · 05-10-2016 2:48pm

tonyroc wrote: »

Here is some "expert" plumbing in a rented apartment in Cork

It might not be suffering any of the problems you describe though

tonyroc · 05-10-2016 6:54pm

gctest50 wrote: »

It might not be suffering any of the problems you describe though

The tenant who was sick all the time moved out so I never got a chance to test the water or eyeball the system which was just sitting in the hallway no hotpress. She said the landlord put it in himself . They seem to be a lot healthier now. It could have something to do with chemicals leaching from the plastic pipes. I'm not 100% sure but I don't think plastic pipes are supposed to be directly connected to the copper cylinder.

cgc5483 · 07-10-2016 3:42pm

tonyroc wrote: »

This is toxicology report on just one ingredient used is inhibitors its mutagenic it can mutate bacteria its carcinogenic

Nope, not carcinogenic. Mutagenic to bacteria but negative for genotoxicity in mice.

gctest50 · 07-10-2016 6:03pm

tonyroc wrote: »

The tenant who was sick all the time

Any medical records ?

tonyroc wrote: »

.....moved out....They seem to be a lot healthier now...

Bit late now

tonyroc wrote: »

so I never got a chance to test the water

So the water was never tested

tonyroc wrote: »

or eyeball the system

So you never saw it, never looked at it

tonyroc wrote: »

which was just sitting in the hallway no hotpress.

The one photo you attached could have been taken at any time.

Maybe the person installing it was going build a hotpress around it after lunch ? Who knows ?

tonyroc wrote: »

She said the landlord put it in himself .

It may be fine, you didn't test the water

tonyroc wrote: »

They seem to be a lot healthier now.

Are you a doctor ?

What did they have ?

tonyroc wrote: »

It could have something to do with chemicals leaching from the plastic pipes.

What chemicals ?

What brand & type of pipe ?

tonyroc wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think plastic pipes are supposed to be directly connected to the copper cylinder.

Can you paste in the regs for this ?

tonyroc · 07-10-2016 6:23pm

cgc5483 wrote: »

Nope, not carcinogenic. Mutagenic to bacteria but negative for genotoxicity in mice.

It's still up for debate if this study is taken into account : The occurrence of tumours in both rats and mice is suggestive of a possible
carcinogenic effect of benzotriazole in both species:
In the 78-week study in rats, adenomas and carcinomas of the liver occurred at a
statistically significant incidence in the high-dose group (5/45) when compared
with the control group (0/48). The figure for the high dose group is rather high and
this should be taken into consideration, when evaluating the evidence of
carcinogenicity. Another observation which points towards a carcinogenic effect of
benzotriazole was the occurrence of rare brain tumours in three low-dose male rats
(one oligodendroglioma and two gliomas) and in one high-dose female (glioma)
with no brain tumours observed in the control group. Furthermore, an increased
incidence of tumours in the uterus and thyroid has also been observed in the rats.
22
Low-dose female mice showed a statistical significant increase in lung-tumours;
also the high-dosed females showed an increased incidence of lung-tumours
compared to control animals, although not statistically significant.
The occurrence of tumours in both rats and mice is suggestive of a possible
carcinogenic effect of benzotriazole in both species.
http://www2.mst.dk/Udgiv/publications/2013/12/978-87-93026-81-0.pdf
the company who make the inhibitors say "No data Available" frequently which also makes me wonder what tests they actually did on the chemical.
I also wonder what do the plumbers do with the fluid containing these types of chemicals when they flush a central heating system "Do not discharge into drains or rivers. Contain the spillage using bunding."
http://www.adey.com/downloads/chemicals/MSDS_Documents/MC1Plus_RAPIDE_MSDS_Eng.pdf

Sleeper12 · 07-10-2016 6:23pm

gctest50 wrote:

Can you paste in the regs for this ?

I don't think it is in the regs as such but if memory serves the manufacturer says not to connect to top of cylinder. Qualpex can't handle the heat if thermostat fails ax ask.If this is the case then it would be against the regs to use something against the manufacturer specs.

gctest50 · 07-10-2016 6:52pm

tonyroc wrote: »

This is toxicology report on just one ingredient used is inhibitors its mutagenic it can mutate bacteria its carcinogenic

The new Irish Water meters might have a one-way valve in them

This would help stop your neighbours "house" water bleeding back into yours

( not a replacement for a safe system in their house though )

So your neighbour could be poisoning you if they don't have an Irish Water meter (presuming meters have the one-way valve option fitted)

eg

https://www.water.ie/help-centre/questions-and-answers/what-are-the-product-spec/

tonyroc · 07-10-2016 6:59pm

gctest50 wrote: »

The new Irish Water meters might have a one-way valve in them

This would help stop your neighbours "house" water bleeding back into yours

( not a replacement for a safe system in their house though )

you are correct the water meter does have a single non return valve fitted but because of the chemicals and bacteria involved there needs to be a double non return used. Dept of Environment Eamon Smyth engineer admitted CHS fluid containing chemicals is classified cat 4 hazzard .
The chances of backflow or backsiphonage into the public water mains is remote but it has happened in the past . I also posted a video earlier in the thread of two non returns leaking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrvXuY7iF08

Dtp1979 · 07-10-2016 7:04pm

I see why this is called wtf thread now cause what the fcuk has all the above got to do this thread

gctest50 · 07-10-2016 7:10pm

tonyroc wrote: »

you are correct the water meter does have a single non return valve fitted but because of the chemicals and bacteria involved there needs to be a double non return used. Dept of Environment Eamon Smyth engineer admitted CHS fluid containing chemicals is classified cat 4 hazzard .
The chances of backflow or backsiphonage into the public water mains is remote but it has happened in the past .

As i said, it's no replacement for a safe system, it's a bit of a last-ditch effort that shouldn't be needed at all

So, an Irish Water meter is a great improvement - not perfect but better than nothing

like these :

gctest50 · 07-10-2016 7:11pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I see why this is called wtf thread now cause what the fcuk has all the above got to do this thread

cos it's the WTF thread - all kinds of WTF catered for

Sleeper12 · 13-11-2016 8:19pm

My son found this while out repairing a shower yesterday:eek:

Wearb · 13-11-2016 8:44pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

My son found this while out repairing a shower yesterday:eek:

Hole for pipes/wire not sealed ?

Sleeper12 · 13-11-2016 8:49pm

Wearb wrote:

Hole for pipes/wire not sealed ?

It rarely is. Some plumbers prefer the ugly silicon around the shower

Dtp1979 · 13-11-2016 10:50pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

My son found this while out repairing a shower yesterday:eek:

Found one for the first time a few months back myself

Sleeper12 · 13-11-2016 10:55pm

Dtp1979 wrote:

Found one for the first time a few months back myself

I've seen photos online but never came across myself. Wasn't there with my son so didn't see this one either.

Dtp1979 · 13-11-2016 11:19pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I've seen photos online but never came across myself. Wasn't there with my son so didn't see this one either.

Don't worry. Your day will come.

Fuzzy Clam · 09-12-2016 2:08pm

Dtp1979 wrote:

Don't worry. Your day will come.

My day came a couple of years ago. Circuit breaker tripped so I removed the cover to find a dead mouse across the terminals.

Citroen2cv · 09-12-2016 3:45pm

1/2 copper rad pipes under my hall.

Sleeper12 · 10-12-2016 2:27pm

Flexible multiwick. Lady came in to use the loo & found a rat eating her toilet roll looking up at her.
I've used these on some jobs over the years & found them handy at times. I have one on my corner toilet upstairs but I don't think I'll recommend anyone use them downstairs anymore. :eek:

K.Flyer · 10-12-2016 7:16pm

I've seen it happen as well about 10 years ago. I stopped using them after that.

Robbie.G · 11-12-2016 12:17am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Flexible multiwick. Lady came in to use the loo & found a rat eating her toilet roll looking up at her.
I've used these on some jobs over the years & found them handy at times. I have one on my corner toilet upstairs but I don't think I'll recommend anyone use them downstairs anymore. :eek:

Was it a cast iron sewer and soil pipe
I've seen it with cast alright

Sleeper12 · 11-12-2016 12:25am

I wasn't there myself but it's a granny flat in a back garden. As far as I remember its under 20 years old so I'm guessing plastic soil pipe. It's ground floor