Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

cunavalos · 17-05-2015 3:26pm

3rd in the final stage behind Degenkolb and Selig

full stage result
1 John Degenkolb (TGA)
2 Rüdiger Selig (KAT)
3 Sam Bennett (BOA)
4 Dylan Groenewegen (ROP)
5 Michael Carbel Svendgaard (CLT)
6 Reinardt Janse van Rensburg (MTN)
7 Andrato de Mattos (STH)
8 Jonas Vangenechten (IAM)
9 Nacer Bouhanni (COF)
10 Ramunas Navardauskas (TCG)

connachta · 17-05-2015 3:30pm

cunavalos wrote: »

3rd in the final stage behind Degenkolb and Selig

full stage result
1 John Degenkolb (TGA)
2 Rüdiger Selig (KAT)
3 Sam Bennett (BOA)
4 Dylan Groenewegen (ROP)
5 Michael Carbel Svendgaard (CLT)
6 Reinardt Janse van Rensburg (MTN)
7 Andrato de Mattos (STH)
8 Jonas Vangenechten (IAM)
9 Nacer Bouhanni (COF)
10 Ramunas Navardauskas (TCG)

what about GC?

cunavalos · 17-05-2015 3:32pm

connachta wrote: »

what about GC?

All the sprinters fell away after the tt yesterday
Dowsett
Machado
Barta

connachta · 17-05-2015 3:33pm

thanks, mate

godtabh · 17-05-2015 4:26pm

He lost a lot of time yesterday. An area to improve if he wants to take a step up to the next level?

Pudsy33 · 17-05-2015 4:43pm

godtabh wrote: »

He lost a lot of time yesterday. An area to improve if he waNt to take a step up to the next level?

It's not really necessary is it? Cavendish, Kittel and the likes would lose time too. He probably took it handy so he was ready to sprint today. He's never gonna be a gc rider, and he proved this week he's as fast as two cracking sprinters in Degenkolb and Bouhanni.

connachta · 17-05-2015 4:45pm

godtabh wrote: »

He lost a lot of time yesterday. An area to improve if he wants to take a step up to the next level?

He souldn't target GC for the moment. Stage win (at least a podium) and many top 10 on Tour de France must be the focus

dastardly00 · 17-05-2015 11:11pm

He just needs to keep doing what he's doing at the moment. I'm really looking forward to seeing him at le Tour.

dastardly00 · 12-06-2015 11:03pm

Congratulations to Sam Bennet for being named as co-leader for the Tour de France!

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/sam-bennett-to-co-lead-bora-argon18-team-for-first-tour-de-france-1.2248063

Darkglasses · 12-06-2015 11:38pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

Congratulations to Sam Bennet for being named as co-leader for the Tour de France!

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/sam-bennett-to-co-lead-bora-argon18-team-for-first-tour-de-france-1.2248063

Great stuff, look forward to seeing his odds for some Tour stages, he's not listed for Stage 2 on PP at the moment

Darkglasses · 13-06-2015 12:01am

I'm possibly showing my ignorance here, but when was the last time Ireland had such a talented pure sprinter (if we consider Sean Kelly as an all-rounder)?

pelevin · 13-06-2015 12:12am

Darkglasses wrote: »

I'm possibly showing my ignorance here, but when was the last time Ireland had such a talented pure sprinter (if we consider Sean Kelly as an all-rounder)?

Sean Kelly.
"Noone likes a smart-arse."
All right. The answer so is Sean Kelly before he became an all-rounder.

Actually remembering that stage with the brutal uphill last km or 500m or so in the Tour of Britain with An Post where Sam came second, that suggested he had a fair bit of the potential all-rounder in him. Twas his last year with An Post when he went on to win a stage in the same race.

Darkglasses · 14-06-2015 2:02am

pelevin wrote: »

Sean Kelly.
"Noone likes a smart-arse."
All right. The answer so is Sean Kelly before he became an all-rounder.

Actually remembering that stage with the brutal uphill last km or 500m or so in the Tour of Britain with An Post where Sam came second, that suggested he had a fair bit of the potential all-rounder in him. Twas his last year with An Post when he went on to win a stage in the same race.

Pelevin please...

PP have given Sam's odds for stage 2 at 66/1 after request. I just can't not put an e/w bet on that

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/cycling/tour-de-france?ev_oc_grp_ids=251554

buffalo · 06-07-2015 9:16am

Haven't seen this posted elsewhere - Kimmage doing what he does best:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/paul-kimmage-meet-sam-bennett-the-man-who-could-be-irelands-next-big-thing-31352175.html

fondriest · 06-07-2015 9:39am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrGIFbzlY_8&feature=youtu.be

On board with Sam in the TT. Huge crowds.

godtabh · 06-07-2015 9:57am

fondriest wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrGIFbzlY_8&feature=youtu.be

On board with Sam in the TT. Huge crowds.

Looks like he caught a few people there

REBELSAFC · 10-07-2015 11:05am

Watching Sam over the last week has got me thinking about the next move for his career. Would he be well advised moving to a bigger team and acting as a leadout man for one of the top top sprinters. Imagine what he could learn from Griepel or Kittel for a couple of years.Being a leadout man for Cav for a season or two certainly didn't do Griepel any harm.

Or would he be better off to continue on his current path given the improvement he has shown already this year?

Pudsy33 · 10-07-2015 11:09am

He's beaten Bouhanni, Degenkolb, and Guardini in sprints so far this year. The lad has the speed. He got unucky with fitness this tour and maybe its all a bit much at the moment but he needs to be leading a team and contesting sprints.

dastardly00 · 10-07-2015 11:11am

He needs to just keep doing what he's doing. He's had a fantastic season so far. Bora-Argon18 are backing him and giving him great support.

RobFowl · 10-07-2015 11:15am

Sam is in the right team and progressing at the right pace. He doesn't need to go anywhere...

REBELSAFC · 10-07-2015 11:25am

RobFowl wrote: »

Sam is in the right team and progressing at the right pace. He doesn't need to go anywhere...

I think that's my opinion too. I was wondering what others thought though

BadCharlie · 10-07-2015 1:48pm

I don't think we are seening sam at his best due to not been able to train as he wanted coming into the Tour. His young so as long as he can hang in i think he has a chance.

Arrow in the Knee · 10-07-2015 2:10pm

I know Sam is undercooked going into the TDF but yesterday's stage not even attempting to Sprint. Come on!!

If he's the team's sprinter he should be attempting to Sprint even for the minor points on both the intermediate and final Sprint.

The team sponsors at least deserve that.

Beasty · 10-07-2015 2:16pm

Arrow in the Knee wrote: »

I know Sam is undercooked going into the TDF but yesterday's stage not even attempting to Sprint. Come on!!

If he's the team's sprinter he should be attempting to Sprint even for the minor points on both the intermediate and final Sprint.

The team sponsors at least deserve that.

He was 14 minutes down yesterday - how on earth could he have contested the sprint

Chips Lovell · 10-07-2015 2:17pm

Dance, monkey, dance!!!

wanderer 22 · 10-07-2015 2:32pm

Sprinting for 165th place - would love to see it :-P

Arrow in the Knee · 10-07-2015 2:36pm

Beasty wrote: »

He was 14 minutes down yesterday - how on earth could he have contested the sprint

He was 3 minutes 20 seconds (166 place) along with the injured Michael Matthews from the winner of yesterday's stage.

I'd say it's fairly pathetic for a sprinters stage.

YeahOK · 10-07-2015 2:49pm

Jeebus lads, give the kid a chance, it’s his first Grand Tour and his preparation coming into it was less than ideal. I think all things considered he’s doing a sterling job and given some time to settle I think we might see him feature. This is the big time and if he does nothing more than get a feel for what’s really required to be GT sprint stage contender and takes that away to pre for his next GT, then that’s enough.. The Rás this isn’t…….

wav1 · 10-07-2015 3:07pm

colm18 wrote: »

Sprinting for 165th place - would love to see it :-P

You can.Every Sunday in the early season A4 races

Inquitus · 10-07-2015 3:08pm

wav1 wrote: »

You can.Every Sunday in the early season A4 races

lol I was about to post exactly that

Darkglasses · 10-07-2015 3:46pm

If he can make it all the way to Paris I'd consider his Tour a huge success. Shouldn't judge it til its all over.

Inquitus · 10-07-2015 4:00pm

Darkglasses wrote: »

If he can make it all the way to Paris I'd consider his Tour a huge success. Shouldn't judge it til its all over.

He should be able to give it a lash today, relatively sedate pace, gruppo compacto and its an uphill sprint which would be his forte.

Arrow in the Knee · 10-07-2015 4:13pm

Ok then

Let's see how he fairs out today 7.5km to go!

Beasty · 10-07-2015 4:15pm

Whatever he does today do not post about it in this thread. Please use the stage specific thread to discuss any current day action

RegisteredMice · 10-07-2015 4:24pm

I like Sam!!

vermin99 · 10-07-2015 4:36pm

Sam done well today

CramCycle · 10-07-2015 4:43pm

MOD VOICE: No hints at all correct, misleading or only joking

buffalo · 10-07-2015 4:50pm

Provisional 10th, that's brilliant!

magicbastarder · 10-07-2015 5:01pm

turns out darth vader is actually his father.

RobFowl · 10-07-2015 5:24pm

Arrow in the Knee wrote: »

Ok then

Let's see how he fairs out today 7.5km to go!

Give it a rest unless you've a GT under your belt

Arrow in the Knee · 10-07-2015 5:49pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Give it a rest unless you've a GT under your belt

Actually my last post was a neutral comment :rolleyes:

dastardly00 · 13-08-2015 11:06am

Velonews have an interview with Sam here.

He's taking part in the Arctic Race of Norway (2.HC), which starts today (Thursday). The first two stages should end up with big bunch sprints so Sam might have a chance. Although he is still struggling with his health after the TdF.

“The antibiotics just zapped me; I just feel really lazy now on the bike, like I’m going out and trying to hold watts and it’s really hard — but once I have to do top-end watts, it’s all there,” Bennett said. “I just can’t go along at 200 watts. So I’m hoping that I’m riding my way into this race. It should be out of my system now going on this week.”

“I hope I can ride relatively comfortable so that I’m not going too deep so I can get a benefit from this race, and so if an opportunity comes around hopefully I can do something. But also it’s cold here; it’s raining and I don’t want to get sick again! I can’t afford that now.”

Eurosport have live coverage for all four stages.

MPFGLB · 13-08-2015 11:36am

Just goes to show how much a Grand Tour can take out of you...especially your first

Guess its like a Derby winner trying to ride the Grand National

eeeee · 13-08-2015 12:28pm

MPFGLB wrote: »

Just goes to show how much a Grand Tour can take out of you...especially your first

Guess its like a Derby winner trying to ride the Grand National

Anorak alert - the Derby and the National are two different sports, the winner of one cannot do the other. At all.

Re Sam, GT's are seriously tough at your full strength with experience, your first one sick has to be tortuous. Fair play to him for getting as far as he did. Hopefully Norway will go well and his end season goes as well as his start.

godtabh · 13-08-2015 1:03pm

gadetra wrote: »

Anorak alert - the Derby and the National are two different sports, the winner of one cannot do the other. At all.

Re Sam, GT's are seriously tough at your full strength with experience, your first one sick has to be tortuous. Fair play to him for getting as far as he did. Hopefully Norway will go well and his end season goes as well as his start.

arent they both horse races?

Esroh · 13-08-2015 1:18pm

godtabh wrote: »

arent they both horse races?

They are but are as far apart as a GT and a World Cup Downhill race.

CramCycle · 13-08-2015 1:54pm

Esroh wrote: »

They are but are as far apart as a GT and a World Cup Downhill race.

I suppose Cadel Evans would be the closest? at least that I know off

eeeee · 13-08-2015 3:19pm

Further apart again. Derby winner is a pure sprinter (well not actually, it's a long race by flat standards), a track sprinter say, a Pervis or Hoy, Kilo men or those with a bit of endurance in their sprint. National winner a pure out and out endurance horse, not massively fast (although a much better quality of horse has entered in the last few years due to animal rights groups protesting - which has conversely made the race even more dangerous :rolleyes:) so a kind of RAAM rider, like Christoph Strasser.

cunavalos · 13-08-2015 4:48pm

Good result today, 3rd in an uphill sprint behind Kristoff and Boassen Hagen

connachta · 13-08-2015 4:50pm

Yes, you were a minute faster than I was.
nice job for the guy.

Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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