Eir rural FTTH thread III

The Cush · 25-11-2019 4:29pm

Gunner3629 wrote: »

This change has seemed to have happened recently. Last time I checked dccae I was light blue colour:

From the government release last week

37,000 premises originally identified as being served by commercial operators (the “Blue” premises), have not materialised and will therefore be included in the intervention area and the map has also been updated for approximately an additional 2,000 premises identified in the latest Ordinance Survey Ireland data

https://dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/news-and-media/press-releases/Pages/Government-sign-the-National-Broadband-Plan-Contract.aspx

BobMc · 25-11-2019 4:31pm

Same has happened our address, funny thing is some houses in the estate are amber some Blue, eg. 9 in our cul de sac blue, 2 amber, I'm guessing some kind of mapping error, I'm bit suprised, thought Eir would see our estate as prime target, 2 fibre cabinets near by and cluster semi rural with about 150 houses, guessing the fact its underground ducting perhaps rather than pole connections put them off potentially?

BobMc · 25-11-2019 4:42pm

Image of the general area

Gunner3629 · 25-11-2019 4:42pm

BobMc wrote: »

Same has happened our address, funny thing is some houses in the estate are amber some Blue, eg. 9 in our cul de sac blue, 2 amber, I'm guessing some kind of mapping error, I'm bit suprised, thought Eir would see our estate as prime target, 2 fibre cabinets near by and cluster semi rural with about 150 houses, guessing the fact its underground ducting perhaps rather than pole connections put them off potentially?

Maybe Eir will still get to you (and me). I presume there is nothing stopping Eir deploying out where they see a economic benefit, even if that area is down to be covered by NBI.

Gunner3629 · 25-11-2019 4:44pm

BobMc wrote: »

Image of the general area

Similar to mine. The road is still light blue but the properties are now dotted amber along the route.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 25-11-2019 4:48pm

BobMc wrote: »

Image of the general area

That is different. Those premises were never part of the 300k agreement with eir. They are in the NBP likely because of cabling issues meaning that they cannot receive at least 30Mb/s.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 25-11-2019 4:51pm

Gunner3629 wrote: »

Similar to mine. The road is still light blue but the properties are now dotted amber along the route.

Your only hope is that the DCCAE have decided to bring all premises in the 300k not yet completed by eir into the NBP and that eir intend to complete them. However the fact that eir are now building in urban areas may mean that they will just give up on them.

BobMc · 25-11-2019 4:51pm

Spot on were on 18mb down, cabinets about 1km from estate, so figured it was cabling complication, as a side

my dad got his FTTH installed last friday, poping down tonight to see it working, lucky duck !! tis wasted on my heading for 70yr old folks

limnam · 25-11-2019 5:10pm

BobMc wrote: »

Spot on were on 18mb down, cabinets about 1km from estate, so figured it was cabling complication, as a side

my dad got his FTTH installed last friday, poping down tonight to see it working, lucky duck !! tis wasted on my heading for 70yr old folks

Yahoo Bingo will be flying bai

jgbyr · 26-11-2019 1:01pm

Noticed this morning that some codes have been painted near us, 9C on a underground cover & L10C on a pole with some cable tied up on it. Do they mean anything?
KN ran cable through ducting along the road way back, but nothing happened since.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 26-11-2019 2:57pm

jgbyr wrote: »

Noticed this morning that some codes have been painted near us, 9C on a underground cover & L10C on a pole with some cable tied up on it. Do they mean anything?
KN ran cable through ducting along the road way back, but nothing happened since.

It sounds like the fibre cable is being run. The L on the pole is generally an indication for the workers to leave a loop of cable so that a distribution point can be fitted to the pole.

jgbyr · 26-11-2019 3:15pm

Ameer Howling Baritone wrote: »

It sounds like the fibre cable is being run. The L on the pole is generally an indication for the workers to leave a loop of cable so that a distribution point can be fitted to the pole.

Thanks for the explanation Navi. They're just marking work done so. There's already a loop on the pole as the fibre was done months ago. I just thought the 9C & 10C might have some other significance.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 26-11-2019 3:18pm

jgbyr wrote: »

Thanks for the explanation Navi. They're just marking work done so. There's already a loop on the pole as the fibre was done months ago. I just thought the 9C & 10C might have some other significance.

No. The loop on the cable could be ducting that they will run cable through. If you get a close picture or can see the markings on the duct I'd be able to tell you but that is the most likely scenario.

jgbyr · 26-11-2019 3:28pm

Ameer Howling Baritone wrote: »

No. The loop on the cable could be ducting that they will run cable through. If you get a close picture or can see the markings on the duct I'd be able to tell you but that is the most likely scenario.

You're correct. The pole is alongside an underground chamber with the loop coming out of it & attached to the pole. Hopefully they'll move it along shortly. There has been alot of Openeir activity at the exchange so might be prep work.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 26-11-2019 3:30pm

jgbyr wrote: »

You're correct. The pole is alongside an underground chamber with the loop coming out of it & attached to the pole. Hopefully they'll move it along shortly. There has been alot of Openeir activity at the exchange so might be prep work.

If they've recently done the markings it sounds like the cabling crew will be coming soon.

Airwire: MartinL · 26-11-2019 3:35pm

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

jgbyr · 26-11-2019 3:40pm

Ameer Howling Baritone wrote: »

If they've recently done the markings it sounds like the cabling crew will be coming soon.

That's hopefully good news. The markings weren't there last week.

Badger2009 · 26-11-2019 4:23pm

Airwire: MartinL wrote: »

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Hi Martin, I have finally got an 'availability' date - 25/12/19. Can I order now or do I need to wait until after this date?

Sorry if this noob question was asked before!

Airwire: MartinL · 26-11-2019 4:38pm

Badger2009 wrote: »

Hi Martin, I have finally got an 'availability' date - 25/12/19. Can I order now or do I need to wait until after this date?

Sorry if this noob question was asked before!

We will take orders, once there is a date, and will get the installation booked in due time.

Headshot · 28-11-2019 11:37pm

FTTH install tomorrow for me, fingers crossed.

Quick question, would satellite cables (coax cable) interfere with the fibre connection?

I'm hoping the engineer will follow an existing hole in my house created for satellite tv cables

tsue921i8wljb3 · 28-11-2019 11:40pm

Headshot wrote: »

FTTH install tomorrow for me, fingers crossed.

Quick question, would satellite cables (coax cable) interfere with the fibre connection?

I'm hoping the engineer will follow an existing hole in my house created for satellite tv cables

No, it would have no effect on the fibre.

limnam · 28-11-2019 11:43pm

Headshot wrote: »

FTTH install tomorrow for me, fingers crossed.

Quick question, would satellite cables (coax cable) interfere with the fibre connection?

I'm hoping the engineer will follow an existing hole in my house created for satellite tv cables

exciting times.

If the dish is on a chimney/roof etc a lot of them won't follow it..

Headshot · 28-11-2019 11:50pm

limnam wrote: »

exciting times.

If the dish is on a chimney/roof etc a lot of them won't follow it..

Dish is on the side of the house so no problem there

It's in an ideal area and really hope they can run the cable there

NSAman · 29-11-2019 5:16am

Ok....have been waiting since august for open eir to do duct work. Date given was nov 21st. Now that has been pushed out to February 2020. Beyond frustrated!

Despite the ducting appearing to run right outside my house!!!!!!

Headshot · 29-11-2019 2:41pm

I'm up and going

It didn't go according to plan at all. They couldn't run the cable to where I wanted as it's to straight and ducting wouldn't work either

The only solution was to bring the cable across a small bit of a field which I had to ring the owners to get permission and they wanted to talk to the KN guy as they wanted to make sure it's high enough just incase any tractors tear it down

Any reliable place where I can do speed tests? Speedtest.net is all over the shop. some servers 500 down, others 900 down

(im on 1GB connection)

Supertoucher · 29-11-2019 3:16pm

Best of luck to everyone waiting on installs.

I've finally switched everything over from my Wicklow Broadband PTP connection to the FTTH. Ended up having to bin the ISP router (well chucking it in an drawer) as I couldn't change the routing table on it (and support couldn't help me). Ended up getting a simple replacement that does the job well enough for now.

NSAman wrote: »

Ok....have been waiting since august for open eir to do duct work. Date given was nov 21st. Now that has been pushed out to February 2020. Beyond frustrated!

Despite the ducting appearing to run right outside my house!!!!!!

Don't read too much into the reason - it's blanket term they use for any work that needs doing. I was given the 14th December for resolution and it was fixed a couple of weeks ago, so hopefully you'll be sorted earlier.

Gonzo · 29-11-2019 4:34pm

Headshot wrote: »

I'm up and going

It didn't go according to plan at all. They couldn't run the cable to where I wanted as it's to straight and ducting wouldn't work either

The only solution was to bring the cable across a small bit of a field which I had to ring the owners to get permission and they wanted to talk to the KN guy as they wanted to make sure it's high enough just incase any tractors tear it down

Any reliable place where I can do speed tests? Speedtest.net is all over the shop. some servers 500 down, others 900 down

(im on 1GB connection)

Great that your finally up and running after a lifetime of poor internet. This will be a life changer for you. A 1gig connection will never reach it's full speed for various reasons. The most you can expect from a speedtest using a modern and well capable network card wired to the modem is about 940 and that's only if the speedtest server supports such speeds. I'm on a 300 meg plan and the only places it gets used fully is blizzard app, steam and speedtests. Not a hope of achieving the max speeds on a playstation network.

limnam · 29-11-2019 4:45pm

Headshot wrote: »

I'm up and going

It didn't go according to plan at all. They couldn't run the cable to where I wanted as it's to straight and ducting wouldn't work either

The only solution was to bring the cable across a small bit of a field which I had to ring the owners to get permission and they wanted to talk to the KN guy as they wanted to make sure it's high enough just incase any tractors tear it down

Any reliable place where I can do speed tests? Speedtest.net is all over the shop. some servers 500 down, others 900 down

(im on 1GB connection)

A lot of them I find can't give 900+

Blacknight is usually fairly stable all the time.

limnam · 29-11-2019 4:46pm

Headshot wrote: »

I'm up and going

Delighted for you.

You've been waiting awhile!

Marlow · 29-11-2019 7:27pm

limnam wrote: »

A lot of them I find can't give 900+

Blacknight is usually fairly stable all the time.

That's because a lot of them only have 1 Gbit/s interfaces.

Only ones known for certain to have 10 Gbit/s or more are Blacknight in Carlow and Airwire in Galway.

Fast.com and the google speedtest are even worse.

/M

Headshot · 29-11-2019 10:42pm

Interesting one guys, I had a static IP on my DSL link and it's carried over to my FTTH link

A surprising one

tuxy · 29-11-2019 11:25pm

And something else we found out which I think I read on here already, if you have a fixed IP with Eir and FTTH you have to use PPPoE and not DHCP.

Headshot · 29-11-2019 11:36pm

tuxy wrote: »

And something else we found out which I think I read on here already, if you have a fixed IP with Eir and FTTH you have to use PPPoE and not DHCP.

Yup

Tuxy helped me get that one sorted as we both own Unifi equipment

Marlow · 30-11-2019 12:09am

tuxy wrote: »

And something else we found out which I think I read on here already, if you have a fixed IP with Eir and FTTH you have to use PPPoE and not DHCP.

PPPoE has always been a requirement for fixed IP. It is a technological requirement, as IPs via DHCP always come from a common pool.

/M

tuxy · 30-11-2019 12:23am

Marlow wrote: »

PPPoE has always been a requirement for fixed IP. It is a technological requirement, as IPs via DHCP always come from a common pool.

/M

Yup, makes sense. The thing is I had Eir FTTH for 12 months and I didn't pay for a fixed IP so was using DHCP and my IP never changed. That seems to be common for FTTH. I'm fairly sure it changed once in a while when I had DSL.

Richieq · 30-11-2019 12:30am

So I was given tomorrow as a resolution date for them to create a new duct to my house. Been waiting since August. There is no ducting at al from roadside to my house. 350metres. I’m not holding out hope that they will digging a trench in the morning. I’m really frustrated with the whole experience. I’m currently with Vodafone.i can never get through to their customer care line , I just get disconnected. Do I just call sales and get them to connect me. I just wish there was a way I could have a dialogue and be privy to their actual plans!

tuxy · 30-11-2019 12:41am

Richieq wrote: »

So I was given tomorrow as a resolution date for them to create a new duct to my house. Been waiting since August. There is no ducting at al from roadside to my house. 350metres. I’m not holding out hope that they will digging a trench in the morning. I’m really frustrated with the whole experience. I’m currently with Vodafone.i can never get through to their customer care line , I just get disconnected. Do I just call sales and get them to connect me. I just wish there was a way I could have a dialogue and be privy to their actual plans!

If you're not in contract and just need standard FTTH, no extras like phone and TV cancel and go with Airwire. Excellent customer support that's easy to get in contact with.

limnam · 30-11-2019 10:54am

tuxy wrote: »

Yup, makes sense. The thing is I had Eir FTTH for 12 months and I didn't pay for a fixed IP so was using DHCP and my IP never changed. That seems to be common for FTTH. I'm fairly sure it changed once in a while when I had DSL.

I think most have long lease times so if you dont turn off/reboot often I can't see it changing much.

If you're with Airwire they give you a free static address on request

Richieq · 30-11-2019 2:26pm

tuxy wrote: »

If you're not in contract and just need standard FTTH, no extras like phone and TV cancel and go with Airwire. Excellent customer support that's easy to get in contact with.

I’m in contract until next July. I do need phone. Mobile coverage is not great and my wife for some reason seems to think that having a phone is a must! I spent several years out of contract for this very reason. But, made an attempt at switching to Imagine as they promised the world. I could get 180meg at the dead of night and about 1meg peak times. So had to go back. I was deemed as not commercially viable and that changed for FTTH so now I’m waiting for it to change. I just wish somebody would tell me what’s happening. Several times now I’ve been passed around to different teams at Vodafone, no one seems to know what what is happening. It’s not time that frustrates me it’s not knowing what’s happening and also from what I can tell, Vodafone doesn’t know either. It’s like open Eir have a secrecy pact and I need to have a special handshake to get in on it!

correction · 30-11-2019 11:27pm

Apologies for posting in what is likely the wrong thread but I've known this thread to get good for tips and general help.

I have a 1gb connection from Airwire which works flawlessly all the time but this morning I noticed the download speed dropped to 10mb but I just restarted the router which completely solved the issue but now again tonight the download speed has dropped again but restarting the router hasn't done anything this time. The upload speed is fine. Anyone have a similar problem or anything I can try to fix it?

Marlow · 01-12-2019 12:03am

correction wrote: »

Apologies for posting in what is likely the wrong thread but I've known this thread to get good for tips and general help.

I have a 1gb connection from Airwire which works flawlessly all the time but this morning I noticed the download speed dropped to 10mb but I just restarted the router which completely solved the issue but now again tonight the download speed has dropped again but restarting the router hasn't done anything this time. The upload speed is fine. Anyone have a similar problem or anything I can try to fix it?

Can you try and replace the cable between the router and the ONT with a known good cable ? Could be something simple like that.

What router are you using ?

/M

correction · 01-12-2019 12:46am

Marlow wrote: »

Can you try and replace the cable between the router and the ONT with a known good cable ? Could be something simple like that.

What router are you using ?

/M

It is a fritzbox 7560. Yes that may be worth a go, would eliminate a possibility is nothing else.

limnam · 01-12-2019 10:53pm

correction wrote: »

Apologies for posting in what is likely the wrong thread but I've known this thread to get good for tips and general help.

I have a 1gb connection from Airwire which works flawlessly all the time but this morning I noticed the download speed dropped to 10mb but I just restarted the router which completely solved the issue but now again tonight the download speed has dropped again but restarting the router hasn't done anything this time. The upload speed is fine. Anyone have a similar problem or anything I can try to fix it?

Are you still seeing this?

I'm having something similar myself

Headshot · 01-12-2019 10:55pm

Could the router be over heating?

limnam · 01-12-2019 11:10pm

Headshot wrote: »

Could the router be over heating?

For me I don't think so.

Looks like on speed test anyway if I hit anything that's not airwire, whiich I assume I'm on the same network as I get less than 10mb. But Airwire test seems "normal" enough so looks like traffic going off thier network.

plus upload is fine

It's odd.

tuxy · 01-12-2019 11:13pm

limnam wrote: »

For me I don't think so.

Looks like on speed test anyway if I hit anything that's not airwire, whiich I assume I'm on the same network as I get less than 10mb. But Airwire test seems "normal" enough so looks like traffic going off thier network.

plus upload is fine

It's odd.

No problems here with Airwire, I've tested on a number of servers in Ireland.

Hammurabi · 01-12-2019 11:18pm

I'm exactly same as liman. Airwire, ftth. Speedtests to airwire = normal. Anywhere else down to about 20-2mbs. IPTV and games all lagging/buffering. It's been the same for past couple nights. I think it's fine during the day. But havnt checked rigorously. I'm in Cork.

Headshot · 01-12-2019 11:19pm

limnam wrote: »

For me I don't think so.

Looks like on speed test anyway if I hit anything that's not airwire, whiich I assume I'm on the same network as I get less than 10mb. But Airwire test seems "normal" enough so looks like traffic going off thier network.

plus upload is fine

It's odd.

That is strange, I wonder could it be a routing issue

I dont suppose you have any linux machine that you could do a speed test to an IP address, just to eliminate any DNS issue?

limnam · 01-12-2019 11:28pm

Hammurabi wrote: »

I'm exactly same as liman. Airwire, ftth. Speedtests to airwire = normal. Anywhere else down to about 20-2mbs. IPTV and games all lagging/buffering. It's been the same for past couple nights. I think it's fine during the day. But havnt checked rigorously. I'm in Cork.

Cork too...

Do you happen to be near inshannon / bandon?

The reason I ask is I see there was work recently done there on the airwire twitter page

limnam · 01-12-2019 11:30pm

Headshot wrote: »

That is strange, I wonder could it be a routing issue

I dont suppose you have any linux machine that you could do a speed test to an IP address, just to eliminate any DNS issue?

I use linux yep.

Don't think it's DNS. DNS seem to resolve quick enough.

Getting 2mb/s to blakcnight at the mo :eek:

Eir rural FTTH thread III

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