Should nuts in school be banned for the small % who have "nut allergies"

iamwhoiam · 10-10-2019 5:15pm

Anyone who has an issue with sending their child to school without nuts in their lunch need to seriously get a grip on reality .
Feed them nuts for breakfast and dinner and supper and in between if you wish . They will be grand without a nut for a few hours . Honestly they will

khalessi · 10-10-2019 5:18pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They will be grand without a nut for a few hours . Honestly they will

They might go nuts:D

ceadaoin. · 10-10-2019 5:25pm

Sunflower butter is a decent nut free alternative if they really can't go without for a few hours. On a sandwich you probably couldn't even tell the difference

martingriff · 10-10-2019 5:44pm

topper75 wrote: »

I'm saying if you are Irish - as in all your forebears lived here going way back, you just simply should not be allergic to nuts, or milk for that matter. Nobody in Southern China is allergic to rice. It's puzzling that such freakish Irish kids exist and it is doubly puzzling that it all happens in just the last decade or two.

I was schooled in the 80s and 90s. In primary 200 kids with me. 600 in secondary. Wider circle of peers out of school in clubs etc. easily another 200. Not one person in those groups (stat. significant sample size of 1000) had any kind of reaction to eating nuts. This is new stuff here. Why?

Going to have call a load of smelly bull here unless you can back it up. I know people in the 70's 80's 90's who have been lactose intolerant and had nut allergies. Was not called allergies in the 70's and 80's but what we know now they had them. Just because people in your are did not have an allergy (that you know of) does not mean there was not a number of people with them.

There is a lot of troll/ignorant entitled people on this thread who seem to want to rebel against something just because they want to be "seen to fight the man" or it will now make them think. Some may be the same who want wipes banned because they did not want to have a thought now where do I put this the toilet or a bin

Edit: For those who say nuts are healthy well yes but watch your portion size as they are high in unsaturated fats. Some nuts such as cashew nuts and macadamias are high in saturated fats and could cause high cholesterol

M5 · 10-10-2019 6:11pm

Went to school with someone who had a peanut allergy in the 80s.

Im flabbergasted at the ignorance begin shown here. It's not a case of "there were no peanut allergies in my day". You're just not that observant. Nor is it a case that an allergy is a minor inconvenience like a cold. In a large proportion of cases it can be lethal, especially in kids.

Some astoundingly stupid and myopic posts in this thread.

I'm afraid if you believe that either of the above is the case you are quite simply a moron

Princess Calla · 10-10-2019 6:26pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

you keep telling me im flinging kids into schools with lunchboxes full of nuts to try to kill other kids. for the record i am not doing this and im asking you to stop telling me what you imagine about me. its very boring.

you should imo stop with the hysterics and the projection and answer the very real question arising as a result of your statements.

you think sending kids with dangerous allergies into a school environment is a good thing

you think that everyone else is responsible 100% for ensuring that the school policy of no nuts isnt breached.

you think that the other parents should be held accountable in the event of an incident

this is all on record in this thread.

im asking you what consequences you would like to see befall the parent of another child who overlooks or makes a mistake in packing their own childs lunch, and this results in a child being harmed.

simple question

An allergy can be easily managed if precautions are in place.

If you send your child to a school with a ban policy you are agreeing to abide by the rules.

If you don't want to agree by the rules don't send your children to that school.

Every child has the right to an education.

If a parent persistently breaks the ban, knowing full well there is a nut allergy child in the class and a child dies. I would be expecting an inquiry consequences I don't know I'm not legally trained.

Personally I wouldn't want a child's death on my hands.

10-10-2019 6:30pm

if a person inadvertently, once does so with serious consequences?

simple question tbh. you seem not to be able to answer

worded · 10-10-2019 6:35pm

harr wrote: »

I to have seen the affects of a selfish parent thinking the ban on nut products didn’t Apply To them. The child in question went to deaths door in a matter of minutes and this was only from minimal contact with someone who had been eating nuts. The teacher had an epi pen as did the child in her school bag. A very scary thing to see a child not being able to breathe.
The other parent it turns out had been told a number of times and criminal proceedings were threatened in the end, this was after the school sent all parents a letter from crumlin hospital stating the severity of this child condition.

I was just thinking thats nuts ... It really is insane

Dravokivich · 10-10-2019 7:01pm

cnocbui wrote: »

It's not a case of can't. You are putting strict adherence to a rule on an ethical plane above saving a life. No Chemist is going to be prosecuted for ignoring a rule and saving a child's life.

Nice victim blaming there.

You are working with hindsight. The people in that setting cant.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 7:02pm

Princess Calla wrote: »

An allergy can be easily managed if precautions are in place.

If you send your child to a school with a ban policy you are agreeing to abide by the rules.

If you don't want to agree by the rules don't send your children to that school.

Every child has the right to an education.

If a parent persistently breaks the ban, knowing full well there is a nut allergy child in the class and a child dies. I would be expecting an inquiry consequences I don't know I'm not legally trained.

Personally I wouldn't want a child's death on my hands.

Hang on, what about parents who send their kids to a school knowing the school had no policy on nuts and sent them to the school anyway only to subsequently demand that every other family and child adapt to their circumstances. I can't believe how some posters are so adamant about what other people should feed their children and have no appreciation what the schools and families are doing to accommodate their children but yet if a child comes into contact with nuts then they want everyone held accountable.

Not one person has considered what other families are doing to accommodate their children other than to call them ignorant. Some gratitude.

Dravokivich · 10-10-2019 7:05pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Hang on, what about parents who send their kids to a school knowing the school had no policy on nuts and sent them to the school anyway only to subsequently demand that every other family and child adapt to their circumstances. I can't believe how some posters are so adamant about what other people should feed their children and have no appreciation what the schools and families are doing to accommodate their children but yet if a child comes into contact with nuts then they want everyone held accountable.

Not one person has considered what other families are doing to accommodate their children other than to call them ignorant. Some gratitude.

I don't think a parent concerned for the wellbeing of their allergy ridden child is ignorant of the effort required by other parties to support the childs welfare.

Ignorance would be very much in play for those who dont have to deal with it.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 7:09pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

I don't think a parent concerned for the wellbeing of their allergy ridden child is ignorant of the effort required by other parties to support the childs welfare.

Ignorance would be very much in play for those who dont have to deal with it.

Really, have you read some of the responses on this thread? Anyone who suggests the opposite to you is considered ignorant, uneducated and should be held accountable.

"The whole world has to accommodate my needs and the needs of my children or I'll sue you"

Ever think that if you are that allergic to nuts you could die, maybe you shouldn't go to places where they might have nuts?

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 7:13pm

harr wrote: »

I to have seen the affects of a selfish parent thinking the ban on nut products didn’t Apply To them. The child in question went to deaths door in a matter of minutes and this was only from minimal contact with someone who had been eating nuts. The teacher had an epi pen as did the child in her school bag. A very scary thing to see a child not being able to breathe.
The other parent it turns out had been told a number of times and criminal proceedings were threatened in the end, this was after the school sent all parents a letter from crumlin hospital stating the severity of this child condition.

Number 163 of things that never happened.

The school can't tell you not to feed children nuts, they don't have the authority to that. They can only ask you to "avoid" giving you children nuts.

How about the kids with nut allergies "avoid" going to school if the allergy is so bad that they could die.

Princess Calla · 10-10-2019 7:14pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

if a person inadvertently, once does so with serious consequences?

simple question tbh. you seem not to be able to answer

Then it's a very tragic accident.

Though I honestly don't know how you could do it, every product has an allergy information list on it.
Schools send home leaflets with suggested lunch ideas.

But then accidents do happen.

iamwhoiam · 10-10-2019 7:17pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Number 163 of things that never happened.

The school can't tell you not to feed children nuts, they don't have the authority to that. They can only ask you to "avoid" giving you children nuts.

How about the kids with nut allergies "avoid" going to school if the allergy is so bad that they could die.

How about the child who’s parents couldn’t be arsed obeying the school rules of no nuts just go to a different school with no rules
They can chomp on nuts all day there if they wish

martingriff · 10-10-2019 7:18pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Number 163 of things that never happened.

The school can't tell you not to feed children nuts, they don't have the authority to that. They can only ask you to "avoid" giving you children nuts.

How about the kids with nut allergies "avoid" going to school if the allergy is so bad that they could die.

So the kid should get no education because a parent will not follow a rule not who is the one demanding

Dravokivich · 10-10-2019 7:20pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Really, have you read some of the responses on this thread? Anyone who suggests the opposite to you is considered ignorant, uneducated and should be held accountable.

"The whole world has to accommodate my needs and the needs of my children or I'll sue you"

Ever think that if you are that allergic to nuts you could die, maybe you shouldn't go to places where they might have nuts?

Any mentions of suing I saw were anecdotal and people commenting about things they heard. Not what they did.

Dravokivich · 10-10-2019 7:23pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Number 163 of things that never happened.

The school can't tell you not to feed children nuts, they don't have the authority to that. They can only ask you to "avoid" giving you children nuts.

How about the kids with nut allergies "avoid" going to school if the allergy is so bad that they could die.

To me this argument is no different to vaccination. Would you be arguing that a child who couldn't be vaccinated, should not be going to school?

iamwhoiam · 10-10-2019 7:28pm

I am actually laughing at adults on this thread stropping about kids being denied nuts in their lunch !!
My grandchild in Junior Infants was well aware of her little classmates allergies , the kids would mind him and make sure no one had nuts . The four year olds would “ remind “ mammy and daddy not to put nuts on the lunch
I was reminded the night she slept over not to put Nutella on her lunch ( not that I had any intention of it )
Thankfully we have a class full of 4-5 year olds with more cop than a few daft posters on here

khalessi · 10-10-2019 7:37pm

I keep reading in the 70s 80s blah blah....

Thinking back we didn't have the variety of foods available today. It was for the majority a sandwich with jam or ham or cheese or maybe ham and cheese, sometimes egg or chopped veggies and a flask. There were no biscuits or sweets daily. There was no pasta quinoa noodles just plain sandwich hence not many allergic reactions back then.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 8:16pm

martingriff wrote: »

So the kid should get no education because a parent will not follow a rule not who is the one demanding

So everybody in the school has to accommodate one child. Ever hear of home schooling?

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 8:24pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

To me this argument is no different to vaccination. Would you be arguing that a child who couldn't be vaccinated, should not be going to school?

Sorry but I fail to see the analogy. Are we equating people who think that majority of people should not have to accommodate a very small % of the population to anti vaxers? Judging by the stories on this thread you would think every second child was allergic to nuts.

It’s very simple, if your kid has such a life threatening condition the jeep your kids at home.

If a school asks me to “avoid” giving my children nuts, I’ll ask them to confirm they got proof from a hospital or consultant (not a GP) and then I may consider changing dietary requirements but judging by the parents on here I don’t think it would be appreciated.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 8:26pm

khalessi wrote: »

I keep reading in the 70s 80s blah blah....

Thinking back we didn't have the variety of foods available today. It was for the majority a sandwich with jam or ham or cheese or maybe ham and cheese, sometimes egg or chopped veggies and a flask. There were no biscuits or sweets daily. There was no pasta quinoa noodles just plain sandwich hence not many allergic reactions back then.

You couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried. It’s because of the lack of exposure to nuts that people are allergic and there were very few but allergies in those days. Almost unheard of until the bulldozing parenting generation came along.

iamwhoiam · 10-10-2019 8:26pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

So everybody in the school has to accommodate one child. Ever hear of home schooling?

If you have such a bloody issue with your child not getting nuts for lunch take your child out of that school and teach them at home . You could put huge bowl of nuts on the table and let them eat them all day long .
Problem solved .

But then again I am guessing you have no nut mad child and are only really being a big silly billy and winding people up !

Redneck Reject · 10-10-2019 8:28pm

Nut allergies are deadly to children who suffer from it.Parents who think their child is entitled to a peanut butter sandwich regardless of others wellbeing are just selfish and ignorant.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 8:39pm

Redneck Reject wrote: »

Nut allergies are deadly to children who suffer from it.Parents who think their child is entitled to a peanut butter sandwich regardless of others wellbeing are just selfish and ignorant.

There are nuts in many foods not just peanuts. You probably ate some today and didn’t realise which is why the idea of a ban on nuts is ridiculous because it’s impossible to implement which calls into question the allergy in the first place.

Also, if kids are allergic to “peanuts” then in theory they are allergic to pulses like lentils and chick peas but that fact probably goes over most people’s heads.

There are two types of “nut allergies”

1. Sever life threatening allergy and therefore you keep your kids at home

2. An intolerance to nuts and therefore you suck it up and either send your kids to school or keep them at home but don’t expect the school, parents and children to change their dietary requirements because little Saoirse got a rash on his lips and you decided to self diagnose.

Treppen · 10-10-2019 8:40pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

So everybody in the school has to accommodate one child. Ever hear of home schooling?

Yes everyone in the school accommodates one child. Why? because we don't want them to die.... Do you not get that?

khalessi · 10-10-2019 8:40pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

You couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried. It’s because of the lack of exposure to nuts that people are allergic and there were very few but allergies in those days. Almost unheard of until the bulldozing parenting generation came along.

Having read your previous posts technically you're full of **** but thanks and I do think that you are just laughing your ass off stirring the pot either that or you really are that ignorant of the reality if you think parents ensuring their children don't die are the bulldozing generation. I genuinely believe you are a **** stirrer as there is no way someone could be so ignorant over so many posts, reading the responses detailing the effect of anaphlaxis on the person and the their family.

Just curious have you ever witnessed someone go into anaphylactic shock? Have you ever had anyone in your family have an serious condition of any sort?If so would you go to the end of the earth to ensure they got the necessary treatment or allowance to ensure they would have to same chance to a life as everyone else or would you just say shag em?

I also get the impression that you yourself havent yet reached full maturity and when you have children you will understand better the issues and I then hope you return to this thread and read all you posted as by then you will realise your ignorance.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 8:40pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

If you have such a bloody issue with your child not getting nuts for lunch take your child out of that school and teach them at home . You could put huge bowl of nuts on the table and let them eat them all day long .
Problem solved .

But then again I am guessing you have no nut mad child and are only really being a big silly billy and winding people up !

As I said, there are nuts in many foods but you can go ahead and keep calling me ignorant.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 8:44pm

Treppen wrote: »

Yes everyone in the school accommodates one child. Why? because we don't want them to die.... Do you not get that?

If the condition is that life threatening then the parents are negligent because there are nuts in many foods which most parents aren’t aware of. If as a parent your child had this condition then you would be aware of this fact but would continue to send your kids into that scenario every day.

khalessi · 10-10-2019 8:50pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

If the condition is that life threading then the parents are negligent because there are nuts in many foods which most parents aren’t aware of. If as a parent you child had this condition you would be aware of this face but would continue to send your kids into that scenario every day.

This may surprise you but parents can read, and they read ingredients as they are aware that there are nuts in lots of food therefore they do not give these food to children allergic to nuts. Same way I check ingredients for any gluten/wheat products for my severely coeliac niece and avoid those foods.

Sending children into school is safe as everyone bar you would work together to ensure a child has no reaction by not bringing nuts or peanut butter or chocolate spread or similar products in as these are the main offenders. Simple

khalessi · 10-10-2019 9:08pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Sorry but I fail to see the analogy. Are we equating people who think that majority of people should not have to accommodate a very small % of the population to anti vaxers? Judging by the stories on this thread you would think every second child was allergic to nuts.

It’s very simple, if your kid has such a life threatening condition the jeep your kids at home.

If a school asks me to “avoid” giving my children nuts, I’ll ask them to confirm they got proof from a hospital or consultant (not a GP) and then I may consider changing dietary requirements but judging by the parents on here I don’t think it would be appreciated.

The fact these children have an epi pen indicates it is already diagnosed by a hospital consultant as those can only be got on prescription.

Is that confirmation enough or would you like to see the child's medical records and interview their consultant to check his credentials

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 9:10pm

khalessi wrote: »

This may surprise you but parents can read, and they read ingredients as they are aware that there are nuts in lots of food therefore they do not give these food to children allergic to nuts. Same way I check ingredients for any gluten/wheat products for my severely coeliac niece and avoid those foods.

Sending children into school is safe as everyone bar you would work together to ensure a child has no reaction by not bringing nuts or peanut butter or chocolate spread or similar products in as these are the main offenders. Simple

Not that simple I’m afraid. It takes quite the degree of wilful ignorance to expect every other parent in the school to read food labels to make sure they don’t send their kid to school on the off chance that it may come into contact with your child. So you expect hundreds of parents to check food labels to make sure the food they are giving their children is not harmful to your kids? Wow, that is one of the most self entitled expectations I have come across.

Leaving that aside and ignoring the allergies for a minute. Most adults don’t check the labels of the food they put in their own mouth, how can you seriously expect they are going to do this for someone in their child’s class? That’s why all this talk of nut free schools is nonsense because it’s impossible to enforce. Even the parents who avoid giving their kids nuts and go out of their way to facilitate your child are inadvertently sending their kids to school with nuts meaning that the majority of these so called nuts allergies are bs.

khalessi · 10-10-2019 9:15pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Not that simple I’m afraid. It takes quite the degree of wilful ignorance to expect every other parent in the school to read food labels to make sure they don’t send their kid to school on the off chance that it may come into contact with your child. So you expect hundreds of parents to check food labels to make sure the food they are giving their children is not harmful to your kids? Wow, that is one of the most self entitled expectations I have come across.

Leaving that aside and ignoring the allergies for a minute. Most adults don’t check the labels of the food they put in their own mouth, how can you seriously expect they are going to do this for someone in their child’s class? That’s why all this talk of nut free schools is nonsense because it’s impossible to enforce. Even the parents who avoid giving their kids nuts and go out of their way to facilitate your child are inadvertently sending their kids to school with nuts meaning that the majority of these so called nuts allergies are bs.

This is how easy it is to enforce now pay attention please tell me if you need in in bigger print.

You really are daft and **** stirring but I will go with it for the moment and explain this simply, now pay attention.

No one expects every parent in the school to read labels of all food.

They are expected not to put nut spreads such as peanut butter or choc spread on sandwiches or send nuts into school as they are the main offender.

That is all they have to do.

The parents of the child with allergy send in an epi pen.

Sorted

That really is all that is required not the crap you are going on with

iamwhoiam · 10-10-2019 9:15pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

As I said, there are nuts in many foods but you can go ahead and keep calling me ignorant.

You are on a windup because no adult could actually seriously be this ignorant and stupid . Its glaringly obvious

khalessi · 10-10-2019 9:17pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

You are on a windup because no adult could actually seriously be this ignorant and stupid . Its glaringly obvious

Completely obvious but sure if repeating this helps educate a few people and help publicize how easy it is to do, sure what harm. He is acutallyy helping out lol

CJhaughey · 10-10-2019 9:18pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

There are nuts in many foods not just peanuts. You probably ate some today and didn’t realise which is why the idea of a ban on nuts is ridiculous because it’s impossible to implement which calls into question the allergy in the first place.

Also, if kids are allergic to “peanuts” then in theory they are allergic to pulses like lentils and chick peas but that fact probably goes over most people’s heads.

There are two types of “nut allergies”

1. Sever life threatening allergy and therefore you keep your kids at home

2. An intolerance to nuts and therefore you suck it up and either send your kids to school or keep them at home but don’t expect the school, parents and children to change their dietary requirements because little Saoirse got a rash on his lips and you decided to self diagnose.

I am afraid that you are showing your ignorance in this post.
Just because a person has a peanut allergy does not mean that they cannot eat other legumes such as Chickpeas and Lentils.
My son can eat both of those but not peanuts.
You need to educate yourself a lot more before you try and spout such rubbish to people that are living with these issues.

Regardless of what you imagine and believe the issue of nut allergy is real and life threatening to many people who have it, as you can see from the responses to this thread some people develop this condition in later life despite eating nuts all their life.

I hope you never have to deal with this but if you do you will quickly understand why its not a simple case of just keeping your kid at home.
School is much more than just a case of education, kids need to be socialised and likewise other kids learn to accommodate other people who have different needs and abilities.

A ban on nuts for the few hours that kids spend together is not going to make any difference to the diet for the kids that are going without, but it makes a huge difference to the lives of kids that have the condition.

iamwhoiam · 10-10-2019 9:23pm

khalessi wrote: »

Completely obvious but sure if repeating this helps educate a few people and help publicize how easy it is to do, sure what harm. He is acutallyy helping out lol

Very true actually . The ignorance can sometimes be educational

martingriff · 10-10-2019 9:24pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

So everybody in the school has to accommodate one child. Ever hear of home schooling?

Its just nuts my god you think its giving your right leg.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 10-10-2019 9:34pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Sorry but I fail to see the analogy. Are we equating people who think that majority of people should not have to accommodate a very small % of the population to anti vaxers? Judging by the stories on this thread you would think every second child was allergic to nuts.

It’s very simple, if your kid has such a life threatening condition the jeep your kids at home.

If a school asks me to “avoid” giving my children nuts, I’ll ask them to confirm they got proof from a hospital or consultant (not a GP) and then I may consider changing dietary requirements but judging by the parents on here I don’t think it would be appreciated.

All you’ll get from the school/parents are the words “Yes, it’s a diagnosed health problem”. And that’s all you’d be entitled to. You sound very wet behind the ears.

Sparkey84 · 10-10-2019 9:48pm

risk is calculated as "chance × severity"
take it for example the %population with allergies is low. but when you view it in the context of the the severity being DEATH the low population does not matter.

Sparkey84 · 10-10-2019 9:50pm

the risk remains too high and no worth taking that chance. keep the nuts out.

Stark · 10-10-2019 9:55pm

Not really sure the exact context here.

Are we talking a blanket ban on nuts in schools, or ban in cases where there's a known case of nut allergy within a class?

If it's the former, then it's probably a bit OTT. If it's the latter, then you'd want to be some kind of psychopath to want to bring nuts into the classroom knowing you could easily kill one of the children in the class.

khalessi · 10-10-2019 9:59pm

Stark wrote: »

Not really sure the exact context here.

Are we talking a blanket ban on nuts in schools, or ban in cases where there's a known case of nut allergy within a class?

If it's the former, then it's probably a bit OTT. If it's the latter, then you'd want to be some kind of psychopath to want to bring nuts into the classroom knowing you could easily kill one of the children in the class.

Generally it is a blanket ban on not putting nut spreads such as peanut butter or choc spread on sandwiches or sending nuts into school as they are the main offender.

That is all they have to do.

Easy to implement as part of healthy eating policy.

The reason it is school wide is that a child with a nut allergy could come in contact with another child from another class in the yard or on the corridor who sat beside a child eating a peanut butter sandwich and then have a reaction and need hospitalization following injection of epi pen

So prevention is better then cure

scamalert · 10-10-2019 10:01pm

how about parents teach kid that they will die from nut or anything that has em in the first place, then go on to maybe inform school and train couple teachers how to stick a kid in case it happens.

its rare condition and imagine one realizes early how deadly it could be so invest fckn time in training kid to notice it and get help, but dont ask society to carry him entire life, as common sense escapes some people, thus we need labels on everything because oh well look, another compo claim.

khalessi · 10-10-2019 10:06pm

scamalert wrote: »

how about parents teach kid that they will die from nut or anything that has em in the first place, then go on to maybe inform school and train couple teachers how to stick a kid in case it happens.

its rare condition and imagine one realizes early how deadly it could be so invest fckn time in training kid to notice it and get help, but dont ask society to carry him entire life, as common sense escapes some people, thus we need labels on everything because oh well look, another compo claim.

Naturally a parent will teach a child with an allergy that nuts are dangerous and they learn quickly as do other children who are their friends.

This is a brief outline of what is done in a school. The parents meet with the principal, explain the situation and the school team come together to ensure that the childs needs are accomodated.

Information is shared among the staff about children with medical conditions so they know who to watch out for. this is regardless if it is an allergy or medical condition such as CF, nut allergy, egg allergy, another allergy, asthma, diabetes, epilepsy or any other condition that could affect the child in school. the parents can speak to the staff if they wish and medical experts have come into the school to speak to all staff about the relevant condition.

The children are also told of the importance of not bringing in certain foods to prevent a reaction. They are repeatedly told from Junior infants onward not to bring in the prohibited food and will either tell you themselves they have it or another child will. They are also encouraged not to swap lunches and a teacher is in the room as they eat watching and ensuring none of this happens.

An epi pen is kept in the office and in the class and the teacher brings with them on each school outing.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 10:14pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

All you’ll get from the school/parents are the words “Yes, it’s a diagnosed health problem”. And that’s all you’d be entitled to. You sound very wet behind the ears.

Likewise, all you will be entitled to is "I'm sorry my child requires nuts as part of their vegan diet".

khalessi · 10-10-2019 10:17pm

Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »

Likewise, all you will be entitled to is "I'm sorry my child requires nuts as part of their vegan diet".

And they will be told by the school it is banned. The parent will know this prior to enrolling their child as it is part of the healthy eating policy so they have an option of not sending child to that school or following the school policy along with the other parents; Also vegan parents dont have a problem with the policy that I have come across

v638sg7k1a92bx · 10-10-2019 10:19pm

khalessi wrote: »

And they will be told by the school it is banned. The paprent will know this prior to enrolling their child as it is part of the healthy eating policy so they have an option of not sending child to that school or following the school policy along with the other parents; Also vegan parents dont have a problem with the policy that I have come across

The school can't ban nuts. They can only ask you to avoid giving your kids nuts.

What about the parents who signed their kids up to schools knowing there was no policy on nuts but chose to send them their anyway and wanted the rules changed after the fact. You can't have it both ways.

iamwhoiam · 10-10-2019 10:19pm

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how about parents teach kid that they will die from nut or anything that has em in the first place, then go on to maybe inform school and train couple teachers how to stick a kid in case it happens.

its rare condition and imagine one realizes early how deadly it could be so invest fckn time in training kid to notice it and get help, but dont ask society to carry him entire life, as common sense escapes some people, thus we need labels on everything because oh well look, another compo claim.

Do you honestly think that a parent is not well aware that they have to teach a child how to keep safe ? Of course they teach the child to avoid the allergen . Of course they will learn to look after themselves if they can

And as for administering an epi pen an anaphylaxis come upon you sometimes so fast that even an adult is often not capable of giving it alone . Within a very short space you are gasping for air , your tongue swells blocking the airway , your throat restricts and you legs buckle . You feel a dreadful sense of terror and imminent death
. So imagine this in a 5 year old child all because some adult cannot be arsed making sure this child is not put in danger from some kid bringing in nuts to school ?

Should nuts in school be banned for the small % who have "nut allergies"

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