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RTE Investigates programme on greyhound racing industry

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes- trying to capture as much as possible in this documentary as it happens but recommend watching again.

    Then read what the report actually says and why it was carried out. Then educate yourself on coursing and what would happen to the hare if it was banned. No more innoculating, wormed etc.
    What you saw in the program was historical stuff. Illegal stuff that is being clamped down on.
    It was great to see those illegal courses named and shamed. I hope that they are banned for life from every track and coursing field in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Then read what the report actually says and why it was carried out. Then educate yourself on coursing and what would happen to the hare if it was banned. No more innoculating, wormed etc.
    What you saw in the program was historical stuff. Illegal stuff that is being clamped down on.
    It was great to see those illegal courses named and shamed. I hope that they are banned for life from every track and coursing field in the country.


    Is there a link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Yes .I agree..all i am saying is ....it would have been very easy for RTE to be discouraged. That is the way they work. There are a lot of things they are 'discouraged' from reporting. Just letting you know.

    You really dont need to "just let me know" anything. It comes across as patronising.

    This, to me is a serious thread and there are key messages and actions that have come out of last nights program.

    It is a real shame to have this thread derailed and taken off track like so many other threads recently.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    anewme wrote: »
    You really dont need to "just let me know" anything. It comes across as patronising.

    This, to me is a serious thread and there are key messages and actions that have come out of last nights program.

    It us a real shame to have this thread derailed and taken off track like so many other threads recently.

    Most of the content was of a historical nature or from another country. Steps have been and will continue to be taken to ensure it doesn’t happen again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    anewme wrote: »
    You really dont need to "just let me know" anything. It comes across as patronising.

    This, to me is a serious thread and there are key messages and actions that have come out of last nights program.

    It us a real shame to have this thread derailed and taken off track like so many other threads recently.


    It's just a phrase. I meant nothing by it. It's hardly patronizing.

    I am just telling you for years RTE DID NOT report this.

    There are reasons ..for one pat kenny loved greyhound racing and was in the dogs a lot. And he was treated very well there. And there was a lot of motivation behind that treatment.

    So i thought you might want to know why this took so long to come out.

    The industry courted people in RTE for a long time. I thought it was important.

    They used to have big events and invite people have corporate things.

    That is why i was saying it. And yes it does have an affect. Lots of industries do it. Not just to celebs etc but people working behind the scenes in RTE. Directors etc.


    I hope you understand better now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Abel Ruiz


    GTFO with that. It isn't "the" money, it's OUR money. And it shouldn't be anywhere near these so- called sports.

    But what about the dancing horses in the Olympics???
    Is that sport okay.
    Didn't an irish fello win a medal a few years ago, even though his horse was pissed????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Abel Ruiz wrote: »
    But what about the dancing horses in the Olympics???
    Is that sport okay.


    Dressage done properly is fine. Dressage done with short cuts or over work etc is a disaster. You end up with torn ligaments etc.

    But it's all about how it's done etc.

    Didn't an irish fello win a medal a few years ago, even though his horse was pissed????

    That was showjumping.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mrsmum wrote: »
    I somehow doubt the industry is going to be disbanded so would there be any merit in a major campaign to get people to consider rescue greyhounds as really good family pets ? They are very gentle and surprising lazy, I believe. so easy to manage and it might just save the poor creatures from being boiled alive in China.

    Also, is a knackery the same as an abattoir for say cattle who have TB etc ?

    Have you any idea of how much it’d cost to send a dog to China? Did the people in the video look like they would have the €0,000’s just to boil them alive?
    Years ago it was acceptable to dispose of unwanted greyhounds any old way. Thankfully that’s no longer the case. More owners are keeping them as pets. Yes, they are gentle and surprisingly lazy. They only get off the couch to eat and empty!
    Hopefully those knackeries and those caught coursing illegally will be treated to the full rigors of the law.
    The main reason the greyhound game is in decline is the increase in paperwork and young people like to see a return for their investment. The cost of rearing pups to racing age runs into the thousands.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Most of the content was of a historical nature or from another country. Steps have been and will continue to be taken to ensure it doesn’t happen again.



    Steps have been taken to ensure WHAT doesn’t happen again ??
    Coursing, mass culling of dogs, leaving dogs writhing on the ground after a botched shooting, exporting dogs to china, sending dogs in vans to the UK without a break or even a drink of water for 15 hours?

    .......to ensure which of these doesn’t happen again.....it didn’t sound like that on the documentary ??..... I’m confused :confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Most of the content was of a historical nature or from another country. Steps have been and will continue to be taken to ensure it doesn’t happen again.

    What steps have been taken to ensure that the industry is not allowed to kill 6000 dogs annually? How is it tracked and enforced?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Steps have been taken to ensure WHAT doesn’t happen again ? Coursing, mass culling of dogs, leaving dogs writhing on the ground after a botched shooting, exporting dogs to china, sending dogs in vans to the UK without a break or even a drink of water for 15 hours? to ensure which of these doesn’t happen again.it didn’t sound like that on the documentary ? I’m confused :

    On "culling" of dogs In 2015 alone some 13,500 dogs were taken in by dog pounds in Ireland.. Many of these dogs are killed because they are unwanted or abandoned by their owners with the result pet dogs being destroyed is not unusual in this country. And thats only the ones which reach the pounds ....

    There is an issue with irresponsible ownership across the board I have no doubt.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    wiggle16 wrote: »
    It's not unbalanced.

    The alternative is simply to say "Most of these dogs are exported".

    If you don't say where, people don't know and don't know why it's important. So you say China.

    If you don't say what happens to them when they get there, people don't know and they don't know why it matters that they go to China. So you say they are exported there as food.

    As with any statement of fact, if you are reporting honestly you should provide some evidence, particularly if your statement is something your audience is going to find unbelievable. So you show them footage to back up your assertions.

    It's not unbalanced. Many people would not believe it otherwise and it is relevant to the discussion. The excess dogs are NOT rehomed.

    It was totally unbalanced. IGB commissions a report to ascertain the number of dogs at any stage of their lives, in order to tighten regulations and its being used as a stick to beat them! Most of the footage shown was either years old or in another country. The sale of greyhounds to China has been banned already. The Cork transporter has already been dealt with. One greyhound was found years ago with its ears cut off. They didn’t show any follow up as all breeding greyhounds are DNA tested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    gozunda wrote: »
    On "culling" of dogs In 2015 alone some 14,500 dogs were taken in by dog pounds in Ireland.. Many of these dogs are killed because they are unwanted or abandoned by their owners with the result pet dogs being destroyed is not unusual in this country. And thats only the ones which reach the pounds ....

    There is an issue with irresponsible ownership across the board I have no doubt.

    916 dogs have been put down in Irish pounds in 2017 (latest stats: https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/879d4c-dog-control-statistics/), the number is falling sharply year on year too. The situation is still dire but there is no comparison with the fate of the 6000 greyhounds killed and accepted as waste in the racing industry. Please stop justifying this atrocity.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Steps have been taken to ensure WHAT doesn’t happen again ??
    Coursing, mass culling of dogs, leaving dogs writhing on the ground after a botched shooting, exporting dogs to china, sending dogs in vans to the UK without a break or even a drink of water for 15 hours?

    .......to ensure which of these doesn’t happen again.....it didn’t sound like that on the documentary ??..... I’m confused :confused::confused:

    Yes. All of the above. That’s why the report was commissioned. To see what steps needed taking. The documentary participants were well animal rights activists. Shame on RTÉ for allowing themselves be hoodwinked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    It's just a phrase. I meant nothing by it. It's hardly patronizing.

    I am just telling you for years RTE DID NOT report this.

    There are reasons ..for one pat kenny loved greyhound racing and was in the dogs a lot. And he was treated very well there. And there was a lot of motivation behind that treatment.

    So i thought you might want to know why this took so long to come out.

    The industry courted people in RTE for a long time. I thought it was important.

    They used to have big events and invite people have corporate things.

    That is why i was saying it. And yes it does have an affect. Lots of industries do it. Not just to celebs etc but people working behind the scenes in RTE. Directors etc.


    I hope you understand better now.

    I asked you above to stop patronising me and you do it again. Deliberately.

    Pat Kenny loved greyhound racing, my brother once knew a Chinese person.
    There are plenty of other threads for spam.

    It is sad to see an important thread going down this route.

    Please have respect for the animals in last nights documentary if nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    anewme wrote: »
    I asked you above to stop patronising me and you do it again. Deliberately.

    Pat Kenny loved greyhound racing, my brother once knew a Chinese person.
    There are plenty of other threads for spam.

    It is sad to see an important thread going down this route.

    Please have respect for the animals in last nights documentary if nothing else.


    I am not spamming and I am not patronizing you. Please spare me your righteous indignation. You care no more for animals than anyone else.

    Your ad hominem attacks make no sense.

    If you feel patronized perhaps its your own insecurity about your knowledge.

    Its certainly nothing to do with the way I have treated you or your input.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    It was totally unbalanced. IGB commissions a report to ascertain the number of dogs at any stage of their lives, in order to tighten regulations and its being used as a stick to beat them! Most of the footage shown was either years old or in another country. The sale of greyhounds to China has been banned already. The Cork transporter has already been dealt with. One greyhound was found years ago with its ears cut off. They didn’t show any follow up as all breeding greyhounds are DNA tested.


    I would say it was made years ago and delayed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Yes. All of the above. That’s why the report was commissioned. To see what steps needed taking. The documentary participants were well animal rights activists. Shame on RTÉ for allowing themselves be hoodwinked.


    Who actually made it??

    I mean produced it etc??

    It would be weird for RTE to air something they really could not back up. They have a really conservative legal team who don't allow anything if they think they will be sued. They have massive oversights sometimes though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    I would say it was made years ago and delayed.

    Please. This has been going on for years alright but is still rampant as every sighthound rescue knows. Reports etc is just whitewashing by IGB; as if they have suddenly woken up!

    We know that you have family in the industry but please remain realistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    strandroad wrote: »
    Please. This has been going on for years alright but is still rampant as every sighthound rescue knows. Reports etc is just whitewashing by IGB; as if they have suddenly woken up!

    We know that you have family in the industry but please remain realistic.

    Oh no I know it's bent/cruel. Thats HOW i know.

    I am just saying its surprising to me RTE took so long.

    I was pondering on the reasons WHY etc if you know what i mean.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It was totally unbalanced. IGB commissions a report to ascertain the number of dogs at any stage of their lives, in order to tighten regulations and its being used as a stick to beat them! Most of the footage shown was either years old or in another country. The sale of greyhounds to China has been banned already. The Cork transporter has already been dealt with. One greyhound was found years ago with its ears cut off. They didn’t show any follow up as all breeding greyhounds are DNA tested.

    So are you categorically saying none of what was shown in last nights documentary is happening now ? And that it’s all history.... that we don’t need to lobby government departments or politicians or raise awareness of the treatment of greyhounds.... that we can all just sigh at the waste of 1.5 hours last night and get on with our lives, nothing to see? Are you honestly saying that ?

    What was the point of this documentary...... RTÉ just trying to use up some surplus cash ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I am not spamming and I am not patronizing you. Please spare me your righteous indignation. You care no more for animals than anyone else.

    Your ad hominem attacks make no sense.

    If you feel patronized perhaps its your own insecurity about your knowledge.

    Its certainly nothing to do with the way I have treated you or your input.

    Saying things to people like "I just wanted to let you know" and "I hope you understand better now" is patronising.

    Posting idle gossip about my brother knows a Chinese person, or Pat Kenny liked greyhound racing is not knowledge and is derailing the thread by attention seeking.

    I ignore it on other threads and stop going into them, but this one is important. Please have respect for the animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    anewme wrote: »
    Saying things to people like "I just wanted to let you know" and "I hope you understand better now" is patronising.

    Posting idle gossip about my brother knows a Chinese person, or Pat Kenny liked greyhound racing is not knowledge and is derailing the thread by attention seeking.

    I ignore it on other threads and stop going into them, but this one is important. Please have respect for the animals.


    I am sorry but you clearly dont know your stuff and are now getting personal.

    I volunteer with animals have done since i was a teen my mother does too.

    I walk the greyounds you are talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    https://grai.ie/category/news/

    Here is the greyhound rescue association if anyone wants to donate as I just have. Or if you want to volunteer.

    The DSPCA also takes greyhounds you can donate or volunteer there too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭maggiepip


    <SNIP>

    Debating mod action on thread is not allowed. Please contact the mod directly to resolve.

    dudara


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I am sorry but you clearly dont know your stuff and are now getting personal.

    I volunteer with animals have done since i was a teen my mother does too.

    I walk the greyounds you are talking about.

    It is great for you that you believe you are an expert on every topic.

    I would ask again that you please respect the animals in last night's documentary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    anewme wrote: »

    I would ask again that you please respect the animals in last night's documentary.


    How am I disrespecting them?

    By donating to the Greyhound rescue and posting a link where you can too in this thread or by walking them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    @anewme & @ILoveYourVibes - Stop it now please. You are both taking the thread off topic.

    dudara


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


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    The failed tests were carried out at Cork Greyhound Stadium on 24 June, 1 July and 22 July. The dog is owned by Kay Murphy and trained by Graham Holland.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    How many of you have actually seen an Irish Hare running wild in Ireland?

    It’s quite a sight and I’ve only seen it 3 times in my lifetime and it was so special every time.

    There is a legal hunting season for hares. Can you believe it!
    I was shocked to learn this recently in a thread on the Hunting forum. I thought hares were now protected in Ireland.
    The hunter posting on boards was trying to justifying it claiming that research about hare numbers in decline was dubious.

    Anyone complaining to the Dept of Ag about greyhound abuse might also demand better protection for hares.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    strandroad wrote: »
    916 dogs have been put down in Irish pounds in 2017 (latest stats: https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/879d4c-dog-control-statistics/), the number is falling sharply year on year too. The situation is still dire but there is no comparison with the fate of the 6000 greyhounds killed and accepted as waste in the racing industry. Please stop justifying this atrocity.


    Hyperbole much? Whose justifying what exactly. The fact is that there are irresponsible owners across the board. And that is a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    There is a legal hunting season for hares. Can you believe it!
    I was shocked to learn this recently in a thread on the Hunting forum. I thought hares were now protected in Ireland.
    The hunter posting on boards was trying to justifying it claiming that research about hare numbers in decline was dubious.

    Anyone complaining to the Dept of Ag about greyhound abuse might also demand better protection for hares.
    Same for deer. You have to have a deer hunting license though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    gozunda wrote: »
    Hyperbole much? Whose justifying what exactly. The fact is that there are irresponsible owners across the board. And that is a fact.

    You're comparing 916 dogs killed in pounds across all breeds and the entire population of Ireland, to 6000 dogs killed in a particular one breed industry. And it's not "irresponsible owners" killing greyhounds, it's part and parcel of their business model. Stop minimising the cruelty of what's going on "at the races".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    strandroad wrote: »
    You're comparing 916 dogs killed in pounds across all breeds and the entire population of Ireland, to 6000 dogs killed in a particular one breed industry. And it's not "irresponsible owners" killing greyhounds, it's part and parcel of their business model. Stop minimising the cruelty of what's going on "at the races".


    What would you like to see done?

    And what is likely to be realistic?


  • Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How many of you have actually seen an Irish Hare running wild in Ireland?

    It’s quite a sight and I’ve only seen it 3 times in my lifetime and it was so special every time.

    Dublin airport. You can see them at the car parks most days. I saw 4 the last time I was there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Thanks for getting on by board- please also register your disgust with Dept. of Agriculture.

    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/customerservice/complaints/

    It would be great for those of us who feel strong enough to voice our concerns. It is about the welfare of the dogs, after all.

    What do you suggest?

    1. Write to Dept of Agriculture? (Email sent there now)
    2. TD's?
    3. Do not attend / support any Greyhound Racing events and speak out when they are suggested.

    Any other proposals? The more people the better who follow up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    What would you like to see done?

    And what is likely to be realistic?

    It should be illegal for the registered owner to kill a greyhound; they should be obliged to surrender them to rescues or pounds so that it is traceable like in the stats quoted above. The subsidy should be significantly diverted to said rescues or pounds with full traceability and rehoming targets set. Animal rescue subsidy was under 3mln last year if I'm not mistaken, the IGB got 16mln and they killed 6000 dogs. You could easily redirect millions to rescues and hundreds of thousands to promote greyhounds as pets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    strandroad wrote: »
    It should be illegal for the registered owner to kill a greyhound; they should be obliged to surrender them to rescues or pounds so that it is traceable like in the stats quoted above. The subsidy should be significantly diverted to said rescues or pounds with full traceability and rehoming targets set. Animal rescue subsidy was under 3mln last year if I'm not mistaken, the IGB got 16mln and they killed 6000 dogs. You could easily redirect millions to rescues and hundreds of thousands to promote greyhounds as pets.


    You wouldn't like to see it wound down gradually like it has in the states??

    Its banned in all but five states now.

    There is no way you are going to be able to rehome 6000 k dogs a year if that is the true figure. Its not realistically doable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    You wouldn't like to see it wound down gradually like it has in the states??

    Its banned in all but five states now.

    It will happen naturally within a couple of years I'm hoping. People are turning away from the horrible "sport" now they are more aware. A ban would be fantastic but it won't happen in this country where senators are greyhound owners as you can see in any debate (on the bright side it's uplifting to see how such senator owners are bemoaning the numbers falling). They have the gall to ask for a breeding scheme introduction in the senate!

    But before it happens tens of thousands of dogs will die. It's a simple legislative change to put it on the owner to pass all dogs on for rehoming and keep full traceability, and divert funding to facilitate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    You wouldn't like to see it wound down gradually like it has in the states??

    Its banned in all but five states now.

    There is no way you are going to be able to rehome 6000 k dogs a year if that is the true figure. Its not realistically doable.

    Do you ever sleep?

    Ban/wound down the greyhound industry along with withdrawing their €16m subsidy and the demand from breeders to overbreed greyhounds will vanish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    anewme wrote: »
    It would be great for those of us who feel strong enough to voice our concerns. It is about the welfare of the dogs, after all.

    What do you suggest?

    1. Write to Dept of Agriculture? (Email sent there now)
    2. TD's?
    3. Do not attend / support any Greyhound Racing events and speak out when they are suggested.

    Any other proposals? The more people the better who follow up.

    Contact companies who support the greyhound industry (e.g. Barry's Tea) and boycott their goods. Bad press is the only thing they will understand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Do you ever sleep?

    Ban/wound down the greyhound industry along with withdrawing their €16m subsidy and the demand from breeders to overbreed greyhounds will vanish.
    Nuh Uh how you think I stay so woke!??;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    strandroad wrote: »
    It will happen naturally within a couple of years I'm hoping. People are turning away from the horrible "sport" now they are more aware. A ban would be fantastic but it won't happen in this country where senators are greyhound owners as you can see in any debate (on the bright side it's uplifting to see how such senator owners are bemoaning the numbers falling). They have the gall to ask for a breeding scheme introduction in the senate!

    But before it happens tens of thousands of dogs will die. It's a simple legislative change to put it on the owner to pass all dogs on for rehoming and keep full traceability, and divert funding to facilitate.
    I would work on winding it down maybe aim to have all tracks closed by 2023.

    If you ask for regulation legislation they will leave like that for years.

    And point out its virtually gone from the states.

    The industry has crossed the line where it can be cleaned up at all imo.

    It's their own fault. They have no one to blame but themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Then read what the report actually says and why it was carried out. Then educate yourself on coursing and what would happen to the hare if it was banned. No more innoculating, wormed etc.
    What you saw in the program was historical stuff. Illegal stuff that is being clamped down on.
    It was great to see those illegal courses named and shamed. I hope that they are banned for life from every track and coursing field in the country.

    Oh so where are the prosecutions & sentences? The Data Commissioner said that the IGB were one of the worst organisations that they had ever dealt with. They ended up entering the IGB & searching for themselves.

    So little has changed. There is huge money in betting & everyone enjoys a slice of the pie.

    China & Ireland are similar in that they both make animal welfare laws but then don't bother enforcing them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    There’s a channel on sky television dedicated to greyhound racing.
    Rpgtv it’s called.its around number 450 after the sports.on every evening.
    There’s another thread on this going in the pet and animal section.
    Could mods merge them if possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    One thing that wasn't mentioned in the program was that some rescues won't criticise the industry because they get money from the IGB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Contact companies who support the greyhound industry (e.g. Barry's Tea) and boycott their goods. Bad press is the only thing they will understand.

    Thanks for that. Strongly worded email will be sent this afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    To be honest.

    When you know a dog has failed a drug test and still name him dog of the year etc. You obviously have some cheek.


    It deserves to be quietly and without drama wound down at this stage.

    It's an industry that went so fair it would be a nightmare to regulate.

    And what do you do with 6000 k dogs each year ? We would be overrun with them.

    Its time to wind it down.


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