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Quinn Director abducted and assaulted

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  • #702
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,980 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    GAA? Gerry Adams? Strange one, haven't mentioned either of them.

    I have posted several links to back up what I was saying - from the Examiner, the Independent and Dublinlive.ie, three different media sources saying the same thing as I am on the topic of this thread.

    Nevertheless, have a go at the poster not the post. What was it someone once said?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111719647&postcount=289

    Ah yes, nowt like a bit of invective when all else fails.

    What has 'failed' blanch exactly?

    I will tell you what has failed, your attempt to show that anyone was engaging in 'fantasy'.
    As soon as this man's name was released his past connections to the IRA was posted and nobody contradicted that connection.

    The truth, that you are only here to air some age old biases, is what is 'sad and pathetic'. And the 'truth' is not invective.


  • #703
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Criminals or ex ira men ...SF will take one hell of a hammering at the polls because of this. Not the type of Ireland anyone aspires to.


  • #704
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,980 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Criminals or ex ira men ...SF will take one hell of a hammering at the polls because of this. Not the type of Ireland anyone aspires to.

    Locally, I think the people here are sick of the lazy blame game. They would be more interested in why this situation was allowed to go on and ramp up over more than 5 years and no action taken.

    It is this 'type of Ireland' because very clearly, nothing was done until it had to be done, and then of course we saw that it 'could be done' if the will was there.


  • #705
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    blanch152 wrote: »
    From a different media source:

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/breaking-news-dublin-jimmy-kevinlunney-17231555

    "He gained a reputation as an IRA sympathiser who supplied vehicles to them and provided safe houses."

    "He was suspected of involvement in the IRA bombing of Bishopsgate in London in 1993. The Met Police issued a photofit of McGuinness two months after the blast."
    Where does it say there that he was a member of the IRA?

    Look at it this way,you know when your Loyalist mates were contracted by MI5 etc and given information to wait outside GAA clubs and target someone closing the gates so they were sure to be able to target a Catholic,well you would say your Loyalist mates had an association with MI5 but you would not say they were members of MI5 now,would you?

    Only difference is your mates worked to kill taigs,this character by all accounts worked for money in exchange for expertise in stolen trucks and logistics.


  • #706
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    This post from September sums it up better than I could, and looks so accurate in terms of what we know since. Pretending that ex-Provos are not involved is simply not tenable.

    It sums up your feverish obsession. Could possibly be ex-provo affiliates involved especially considering the region. So what and so now what? Try link it to Mary Lou or discuss the issues as is?


  • #707
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    tipptom wrote: »
    Where does it say there that he was a member of the IRA?

    Look at it this way,you know when your Loyalist mates were contracted by MI5 etc and given information to wait outside GAA clubs and target someone closing the gates so they were sure to be able to target a Catholic,well you would say your Loyalist mates had an association with MI5 but you would not say they were members of MI5 now,would you?

    Only difference is your mates worked to kill taigs,this character by all accounts worked for money in exchange for expertise in stolen trucks and logistics.


    I don't have any such Loyalist mates, I'm actually a Southern GAA supporter, but your post once again exposes the reactionary poisonous bile at the heart of the nice republican myth.

    Nice glossing over of the person killed at Bishopsgate and the dozens injured, by the way.


  • #708
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    It sums up your feverish obsession. Could possibly be ex-provo affiliates involved especially considering the region. So what and so now what? Try link it to Mary Lou or discuss the issues as is?

    I wasn't on here at the start pretending that the people concerned had no links to the IRA and inventing some fantasy link to FG. Some might think I am obsessed, but I usually back up what I say with links, as I have done on this occasion.

    Others have fantastical obsessions that border on insanity. Perhaps you might share any evidence of what you know about FG/Labour links to the QIH intimidation.
    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The only active folk are the dissidents and they're FG/Lab's lot. Mind could be former FG Councillors if he was glassed or maybe he blew the whistle on the local Garda?


  • #709
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,980 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Some might think I am obsessed, but I usually back up what I say with links, as I have done on this occasion.

    Must have missed your 'back up' for this post that you described as 'so accurate in terms of what we know now'.
    reg114 wrote:
    I have always been suspicious of how Quinn could operate in the border area through the height of the troubles and not become a victim of extortion by the paramilitaries. He became the wealthiest man in Ireland under the noses of the provos ? Something isnt right. Fast forward a few years and his empire is wiped out and company is under new ownership yet the new board become victims of an unrelenting campaign employing similar methods used by the provos back in the day? Far too much of a coincidence all of this. What mystifies me is that total lack of arrests and convictions, again this is very similar to what we see in gangland / terrorist crimes. Will someone have to die before the authorities take this seriously ?

    I think at this stage you trawl news...see the words 'Sinn Fein or IRA' and something clicks in your brain and you believe anything written there after if it is critical or accusatory. :)


  • #710
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    I wasn't on here at the start pretending that the people concerned had no links to the IRA and inventing some fantasy link to FG. Some might think I am obsessed, but I usually back up what I say with links, as I have done on this occasion.

    Others have fantastical obsessions that border on insanity. Perhaps you might share any evidence of what you know about FG/Labour links to the QIH intimidation.

    Blanch making criminal activity in 2019 about the IRA and not any GAA/FG/FF voters?
    I'll go a step further, might even be a few Green party supporters involved ;)

    Are you under the impression that every single person in the border region who took part in any 'illegal' activity, or continue to do so are answerable and beholden to the IRA? Are you that ill informed about the Irish? I would suggest near everyone in that region was provo affiliated or knew of their activities in the least. Are you so naive that this excludes GAA men like yourself and FF/FG party familiars?
    Arms crisis
    The Arms Crisis was a political scandal in the Republic of Ireland in 1970 in which Charles Haughey and Neil Blaney were dismissed as cabinet ministers for alleged involvement in a conspiracy to smuggle arms to the Irish Republican Army in Northern Ireland.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_Crisis

    Haughey, was affiliated with FF I thought?

    Well FG/Lab did make a dissident a senator ;)

    You are stuck in a loop. Get with the times. Criminals in border region likely affiliated with provo activities of old..shocker.

    Now, apologies to the good folk trying to discuss this.


  • #711
    tdf7187
    Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    B

    Well FG/Lab did make a dissident a senator ;)

    Indeed. There's been very little discussion about those strange events. I mean, what were they thinking?


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  • #712
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    Indeed. There's been very little discussion about those strange events. I mean, what were they thinking?


    Oh no, there is a whole thread devoted to misogynistic abuse of Mairia Cahill by the usual non-SF, SF-supporting posters on here.


  • #713
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    Indeed. There's been very little discussion about those strange events. I mean, what were they thinking?

    Trying to give SF a political black eye. More important than running the country.


  • #714
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Oh no, there is a whole thread devoted to misogynistic abuse of Mairia Cahill by the usual non-SF, SF-supporting posters on here.

    You must have been livid when they gave a disident a senate seat? They're like super provos.
    Yeah using victims to score points is pathetic.
    When you be bringing up Jean McConville? You're due no?


  • #715
    tdf7187
    Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Oh no, there is a whole thread devoted to misogynistic abuse of Mairia Cahill by the usual non-SF, SF-supporting posters on here.

    The exploitation of a CSA survivor for opportunist political reasons is something you support?


  • #716
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    The exploitation of a CSA survivor for opportunist political reasons is something you support?


    I am with Mairia Cahill on this one. She has a pretty sound idea of who has exploited her (hint: it is neither FG nor Labour).


  • #717
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,980 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Thread successfully diverted to one poster's pet subject and neuroses. :rolleyes:


  • #718
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    I am with Mairia Cahill on this one. She has a pretty sound idea of who has exploited her (hint: it is neither FG nor Labour).

    So as a dissident republican who was against the peace process, she warranted a Senate seat? Might it be dissidents and not the GFA supporting, disbanded IRA behind any criminality in the border regions?
    IMO, there's likely more members of the GAA than IRA involved in any of this.


  • #719
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    blanch152 wrote: »
    I don't have any such Loyalist mates, I'm actually a Southern GAA supporter, but your post once again exposes the reactionary poisonous bile at the heart of the nice republican myth.

    Nice glossing over of the person killed at Bishopsgate and the dozens injured, by the way.
    A southern GAA supporter lols,your good for a laugh anyway,can you do an Irish jig?

    Wasn't it you who said you spoke to your friends in the loyalist community and the loyalist caught smuggling refugees was only a "small cog" and you would eat your hat if there was loyalists caught up in it.

    Now pop up your evidence that this fella was a member of the IRA like you stated like a good lad or is it just more intelligence from your Loyalist mates?


  • #720
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,980 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    tipptom wrote: »
    A southern GAA supporter lols,your good for a laugh anyway,can you do an Irish jig?

    Wasn't it you who said you spoke to your friends in the loyalist community and the loyalist caught smuggling refugees was only a "small cog" and you would eat your hat if there was loyalists caught up in it.

    Now pop up your evidence that this fella was a member of the IRA like you stated like a good lad or is it just more intelligence from your Loyalist mates?

    In fairness you are mistaken. That was a poster called downcow.


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  • #721
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    tipptom wrote: »
    A southern GAA supporter lols,your good for a laugh anyway,can you do an Irish jig?

    Wasn't it you who said you spoke to your friends in the loyalist community and the loyalist caught smuggling refugees was only a "small cog" and you would eat your hat if there was loyalists caught up in it.

    Now pop up your evidence that this fella was a member of the IRA like you stated like a good lad or is it just more intelligence from your Loyalist mates?

    You can look at my posts in the GAA Forum if you don't believe my GAA antecedents.

    I was a member of CCE for quite a while in my younger days and was proficient at playing reels, jigs and hornpipes. Well versed in the Siege of Ennis and the Walls of Limerick.

    You are mixing me up with someone else obviously, because I haven't been posting on loyalists smuggling refugees, but wouldn't be surprised. They are as bad as your lot. I have nothing to do with loyalists smuggling refugees or republican intimidation. Both are disgusting.


  • #722
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Can we drop the GAA stuff. This is a very serious topic and does not warrant going of at tangents

    Any questions, PM me

    Thanks


  • #723
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,980 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Noirin O'Sullivan's name coming into the picture.
    The Gardai protesting there is 'nothing to see here' is totally wrong and should be ignored until it is found out why it took so long for action to be taken.

    Seems to me if a Taoiseach can blithely state that an area is 'lawless' then the spotlight has to turn on who's responsibility law and order is.
    Platitudes and blaming the community is useless if predictable.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/ex-quinn-managers-asked-n%C3%B3ir%C3%ADn-o-sullivan-for-help-5-years-ago-1.4079784


  • #724
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,228 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Article here about the paymaster having to be warned by the guards that the McGuinness fella was threatening to shoot him
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-jimmy-once-threatened-to-shoot-paymaster-38683633.html

    In other words the paymaster lives in the Republic..........does that rule out any obvious theories of who he might be?



    Edit: I googled and the person I considered to be the obvious suspect lives in Cavan


  • #725
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Article here about the paymaster having to be warned by the guards that the McGuinness fella was threatening to shoot him
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-jimmy-once-threatened-to-shoot-paymaster-38683633.html

    In other words the paymaster lives in the Republic..........does that rule out any obvious theories of who he might be?


    So the guards rushed to protect this paymaster but did nothing to stop the QIH intimidation?


    It is understood that at the time armed gardaí were rushed to protect the secret financier at his home after receiving a tip-off believed to have been from the PSNI.


  • #726
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    So the guards rushed to protect this paymaster but did nothing to stop the QIH intimidation?


    It is understood that at the time armed gardaí were rushed to protect the secret financier at his home after receiving a tip-off believed to have been from the PSNI.

    you are disappointed that the gardai rushed to stop a crime being committed?


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  • #727
    hawkelady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you are disappointed that the gardai rushed to stop a crime being committed?

    Are you being intentionally awkward with your phrasing ??? Obviously not ,,,, but why weren’t the guards “ rushing” to stop people being intimidated for years previous


  • #728
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    hawkelady wrote: »
    Are you being intentionally awkward with your phrasing ??? Obviously not ,,,, but why weren’t the guards “ rushing” to stop people being intimidated for years previous

    I am questioning why you seem to have an issue with the gardai acting on a tipoff from the PSNI. You are framing it as the gardai protecting a criminal when it is gardai doing their job. You complain when the gardai dont do their job and then complain when they do. make your mind up.


  • #729
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you are disappointed that the gardai rushed to stop a crime being committed?

    His point I think is they did their job once but when it came to over 70 serious incidents they stood back.

    Some senior Guards have been bought off seems to be the only evident conclusion.

    Which is not a new take, it's been said repeatedly by some of those under threat and by some Guards.


  • #730
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Danzy wrote: »
    His point I think is they did their job once but when it came to over 70 serious incidents they stood back.

    Some senior Guards have been bought off seems to be the only evident conclusion.

    Which is not a new take, it's been said repeatedly by some of those under threat and by some Guards.

    did they have advance knowledge of those 70 incidents?


  • #731
    sasta le
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Article here about the paymaster having to be warned by the guards that the McGuinness fella was threatening to shoot him
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-jimmy-once-threatened-to-shoot-paymaster-38683633.html

    In other words the paymaster lives in the Republic..........does that rule out any obvious theories of who he might be?



    Edit: I googled and the person I considered to be the obvious suspect lives in Cavan

    Can you PM name or links please


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  • #732
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,980 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    CAB or it's northern counterpart could have shut this guy down in a week or two on their own. The powers are there.


  • #733
    Call me Al
    Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you are disappointed that the gardai rushed to stop a crime being committed?

    And yet they couldn't take down intimidating posters outside QIH directors homes or place of work, allegedly placed there by McGuinness.
    He who must be feared, and not crossed.
    And from reading this article it seems he had the gardai hustle up the money for him without having to lift a finger in this incident.
    I'm disappointed that they were aware of exactly what was going on, but it took the near death of an innocent working man for anyone to do something about these thugs.


  • #734
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Call me Al wrote: »
    And yet they couldn't take down intimidating posters outside QIH directors homes or place of work, allegedly placed there by McGuinness.
    He who must be feared, and not crossed.
    And from reading this article it seems he had the gardai hustle up the money for him without having to lift a finger in this incident.
    I'm disappointed that they were aware of exactly what was going on, but it took the near death of an innocent working man for anyone to do something about these thugs.

    how exactly did you get that from the linked article?


  • #735
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    did they have advance knowledge of those 70 incidents?

    For some of the more serious ones, then very possibly yes for some Guards.


  • #736
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Danzy wrote: »
    For some of the more serious ones, then very possibly yes for some Guards.

    well then people are right to complain about those gardai. what they are not right to complain about is the gardai doing the job they are paid to do. which in this instance was acting on a tipoff from the PSNI and preventing a crime.


  • #737
    Call me Al
    Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    how exactly did you get that from the linked article?

    ".....
    When he was informed that his life may be in danger the 'paymaster' is understood to have made a phone call and later told gardaí the threat did not exist and the security operation was stood down.

    Garda intelligence sources later revealed that McGuinness withdrew the threat when the paymaster explained that there had been a "mix up" and the money was paid.
    ...."


  • #738
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Call me Al wrote: »
    ".....
    When he was informed that his life may be in danger the 'paymaster' is understood to have made a phone call and later told gardaí the threat did not exist and the security operation was stood down.

    Garda intelligence sources later revealed that McGuinness withdrew the threat when the paymaster explained that there had been a "mix up" and the money was paid.
    ...."

    and how exactly is that
    the gardai hustle up the money for him without having to lift a finger in this incident.

    the gardai were doing their job. unless you are trying to suggest something else?


  • #739
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    and how exactly is that



    the gardai were doing their job. unless you are trying to suggest something else?

    In this instance they did


  • #740
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Danzy wrote: »
    In this instance they did

    and yet there are still people unhappy with what they did. damned if they do, damned if they dont.


  • #741
    Call me Al
    Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    and yet there are still people unhappy with what they did. damned if they do, damned if they dont.

    Oh no I'm glad that they did do their job. I'm glad each and every time they do their job.

    As I said earlier they were ok with leaving posters that were part of a campaign of intimidation and threats by these very same people up for the world to see too.
    That's not ok..


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  • #742
    Call me Al
    Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    and how exactly is that



    the gardai were doing their job. unless you are trying to suggest something else?

    I'm trying to say that in their rush to protect the paymaster's life they did the legwork for McGuinness. He didn't need to lay a finger on anyone. He got his money.


  • #743
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    and yet there are still people unhappy with what they did. damned if they do, damned if they dont.


    I'd say you're missing the point but I know you're not.
    So to recap, the Guards get a tipoff from the PSNI that the "paymaster" is going to be shot by McGuinness for non-payment of money for harassment campaign so go to protect him.
    Paymaster then assures guards the issue is sorted so they can forget about it.
    So the guards go off on their merry way and leave paymaster and McGuinness to continue harassment as normal and thats guards doing their job?


  • #744
    ThunderCat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ThunderCat


    Call me Al wrote: »
    Oh no I'm glad that they did do their job. I'm glad each and every time they do their job.

    As I said earlier they were ok with leaving posters that were part of a campaign of intimidation and threats by these very same people up for the world to see too.
    That's not ok..



    Not for one minute defending them with regards anything else, but seemingly a lot of the posters were erected on private land and the guards would have needed court orders for removal. Just what I read.


  • #745
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,980 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    I'd say you're missing the point but I know you're not.
    So to recap, the Guards get a tipoff from the PSNI that the "paymaster" is going to be shot by McGuinness for non-payment of money for harassment campaign so go to protect him.
    Paymaster then assures guards the issue is sorted so they can forget about it.
    So the guards go off on their merry way and leave paymaster and McGuinness to continue harassment as normal and thats guards doing their job?

    Leaves the Gardai looking like they were quite happy to just referee this as if it was normal business. Not good.


  • #746
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,228 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    sasta le wrote: »
    Can you PM name or links please


    I don't have anything other than my own tinfoil hat guess. So, like most on here I haven't got a clue. You can't realistically ask whether I'd PM allegations naming anyone. That's quite a Silly Question in fairness. I can't do that because I don't have any information to say who it might be.


  • #747
    Call me Al
    Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    ThunderCat wrote: »
    Not for one minute defending them with regards anything else, but seemingly a lot of the posters were erected on private land and the guards would have needed court orders for removal. Just what I read.

    Well according to Drew Harris "specialist people" are what's needed, no mention of court orders.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-commissioner-quinn-directors-4872907-Oct2019/

    Are the QIH employees still waiting? I hope not.


  • #748
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Call me Al wrote: »
    Well according to Drew Harris "specialist people" are what's needed, no mention of court orders.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-commissioner-quinn-directors-4872907-Oct2019/

    Are the QIH employees still waiting? I hope not.

    What I read was the Gardaí say they took down any posters that was on public land and they were replaced again days later and they had to go through the courts to remove posters on private land.


  • #749
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    tipptom wrote: »
    What I read was the Gardaí say they took down any posters that was on public land and they were replaced again days later and they had to go through the courts to remove posters on private land.


    So they say (or unnamed sources say), any evidence they actually did any of that?


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    tipptom wrote: »
    What I read was the Gardaí say they took down any posters that was on public land and they were replaced again days later and they had to go through the courts to remove posters on private land.

    Where did you see this? I've only read commentary where everybody says its somebody else's job.


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    tipptom
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    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    So they say (or unnamed sources say), any evidence they actually did any of that?

    Nope and if I was a journalist the first thing I would be asking them is did they sought out permission of the private land holder to see if they could take down their signs,just to see what sort of action or non action there was on behalf of the Gardaí in regards to the signs.

    I actually think these signs were of big significance in what went on as it seemed to show what went on for years without any decisions made about stopping it and it could be done immediately when it all blew up in the press.

    Woe betide any little struggling buisness who decides to stick up a sign in a field advertising dinners or suchlike,you will have a visit from an official within a day letting you know what authority's will be brought to bear if it not taken down immediately or they will take it down and charge you 1ks.


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