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Trouble with car dealer

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    #32
    jus_tin4
    Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭jus_tin4


    monkeysnapper wrote: »
    Why couldn't garage do all these checks before transaction took place ....they are supposed to be a professional buisness ...most of us before we buy a private sale do our checks first .....

    Surely that would be just good business practise on part... i would t have thought a garage could really go back on it once they agreed it/took the balance? Not exactly your fault they didn’t do the proper checks...


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    #33
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Have you done a history check op?

    What sort of money was spent and what were trade in costs.

    Was the car a ball of SH1t or what...

    Very vague..

    Do a check come back with results, how long had you the car?


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    #34
    The Satanist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Are you a lady or someone who might not look like they know much about cars? (No offence)

    I'd guess they're trying a bit of extortion. Ask them to put their demands in writing lol


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    #35
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,388 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I’ve seen a thread almost identical to this one before.


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    #36
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I’ve seen a thread almost identical to this one before.

    Denzel Washington? Deja vu


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    #37
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,398 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109823480

    Was this the same car you traded that had €3,800 damage?


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    #38
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    elperello wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109823480

    Was this the same car you traded that had €3,800 damage?

    Oh so they knowingly sold on a damaged repaired.....
    Still think dealer fooked up though...


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    #39
    michellie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    elperello wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109823480

    Was this the same car you traded that had €3,800 damage?

    Uh oh
    The Satanist wrote: »
    Are you a lady or someone who might not look like they know much about cars? (No offence)


    :-|


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    #40
    monkeysnapper
    Registered Users Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    Del2005 wrote: »
    The OP didn't do a history check, twice, and the numerous threads here and other forums would suggest that the majority of people don't either.


    Last October I was on verge of buying a car , agreed price and day I would be picking up and I told seller I would be doing a full online check and if that comes back ok sale would go ahead ....

    Turned out the car had been stollen , was in a garda pursuit and crashed into wall ... not hugely damaged but I went to my local garda station to confirm this and it was correct ....

    Youd be mad not to have cars checked out ....€15 euros is all it cost !!!!! 15 euro!!!! Nuts .


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    #41
    Boogeyman123
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Boogeyman123


    elperello wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109823480

    Was this the same car you traded that had €3,800 damage?

    Not the same car but thanks for your concern. The car that was crashed is my own and the car that was traded is my partners.

    The garage are claiming that the car traded in was crashed in England before being imported.


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    #42
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,388 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Worth maybe doing a check and seeing?


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    #43
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,147 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's very likely if the dealer didn't run a history check when taking it as a trade in, they wouldn't have ran a history check when selling it. I'd say a potential buyer ran a history check and then the penny dropped when mentioned to the dealer. Either way dealer should have done proper due diligence before accepting the car as a trade-in. The information was available to them but the chose not to check it. The OP is under no obligation to compensate them for their mistake imo.


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    #44
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Boogeyman123 wrote: »
    Not the same car but thanks for your concern. The car that was crashed is my own and the car that was traded is my partners.

    The garage are claiming that the car traded in was crashed in England before being imported.

    So you bought the original car without doing a check on it and were not aware of its history (?). If so you traded it in, in good faith, same way as you bought it.

    They only did the check after they agreed the trade in and sale of the new motor. Now they want an extra 1500 after the deal was done and are withholding the logbook on the new motor.

    Is the older motor now in their name ?


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    #45
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,398 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Boogeyman123 wrote: »
    Not the same car but thanks for your concern. The car that was crashed is my own and the car that was traded is my partners.

    The garage are claiming that the car traded in was crashed in England before being imported.

    That's ok.
    You will understand why I asked.
    Your reply clarifies the situation.


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    #46
    Marcusm
    Registered Users Posts: 10,217 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Boogeyman123 wrote: »
    Not the same car but thanks for your concern. The car that was crashed is my own and the car that was traded is my partners.

    The garage are claiming that the car traded in was crashed in England before being imported.

    Is the garage asserting that the car you traded in was not roadworthy? If not, and on the basis that you sold it as a consumer not a business, they do not have any redress against you. If you were not aware of any UK crash, it's hard to see how even the most moralistic person could consider you owe them the steam emanating from your urine/!


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    #47
    FrankPoll.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭FrankPoll.


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Similar to a private person buying a stolen, clocked, crashed car as a result of not doing a single €20 check on the car they are buying, no comeback.

    What check is it?


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    #48
    Mad_Mike
    Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭Mad_Mike


    FrankPoll. wrote: »
    What check is it?
    Numerous websites offering basically the same service...
    cartell.ie, motorcheck.ie, myvehicle.ie, mywheels.ie etc etc


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    #49
    meathstevie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Boogeyman123 wrote: »
    Not the same car but thanks for your concern. The car that was crashed is my own and the car that was traded is my partners.

    The garage are claiming that the car traded in was crashed in England before being imported.

    And so what ? A crashed repairable that has been repaired correctly is perfectly fine.

    As a private person dealing with a business you have essentially presented your trade in as seen and the dealer agreed to go ahead.

    There’s hundreds of cat C and D damaged vehicles going through auctions in the UK every day of the week to supply the second hand market with perfectly fine second hand vehicles when repaired properly.

    On a fleet car at end of lease a dent in a door and an expensive wing mirror broken of would make it an economical write off as it doesn’t make sense to spend money on an expensive repair on a low residual vehicle. There’s truckloads of that type of stuff going through UK auctions every week.


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    #50
    niallo32
    Registered Users Posts: 620 ✭✭✭niallo32


    I traded in a Passat a few years ago to a BMW main dealer.

    I can't remember exactly the issue with the Passat but a small internal part needed replacing that was causing the radiator light to come on. I told the salesman about it on day one and he had the on site mechanics check it out to confirm. We did the deal and a few days later when I was collecting my car he checked it again.

    Next day he called me and told me the head gasket was gone and he wanted X amount of money as he wasn't going to take the hit. I told him where to go and not contact me again.

    Bumped into him about six months later when I dropped the new car in for something and he told me the head gasket wasn't actually gone and they'd made a mistake.


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