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The strange affair of Dimmy Tooley

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    #32
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,770 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    watch Timmy Dooley arrive in the Dail chamber speak to a clerk go to depart but then speak Niall Collins first then leave (between minute 27 and 28 ) see Dooley point to the seats...

    https://youtu.be/PHBlz7oS6_I?t=1651 via @YouTube


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    #33
    Plumbthedepths
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    "One man, one vote"....…...


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    #34
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Fine Gael do be at the vote malpractice too, they're two cheeks of the same arse.

    That’s some deflection.


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    #35
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    lola85 wrote: »
    That’s some deflection.

    Deflection ? Do you think I gave a flying flute for either FF or FG? Maybe you think I'm a FFer shill, is that it lol?

    I'm simply stating theres not a fanny hair between either of them vote one out and the other in, all you do is change tweedle dee to tweedle dum. They're two cheeks of the one arse.


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    #36
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Deflection ? Do you think I gave a flying flute for either FF or FG? Maybe you think I'm a FFer shill, is that it lol?

    I'm simply stating theres not a fanny hair between either of them vote one out and the other in, all you do is change tweedle dee to tweedle dum. They're two cheeks of the one arse.

    This thread is about FF though????


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    #37
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    lola85 wrote: »
    This thread is about FF though????

    Yeah, who may be in govt in less than a year, thanks to FGs incompetence, but they're no better or worse than the incumbents.

    Have you any argument against my post, or would you just not like me pointing out how one is as bad as the other when it comes to vote fiddling?

    Am I negatively referencing "your team" is that it?


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    #38
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Yeah, who may be in govt in less than a year, thanks to FGs incompetence, but they're no better or worse than the incumbents.

    Have you any argument against my post, or would you just not like me pointing out how one is as bad as the other when it comes to vote fiddling?

    Am I negatively referencing "your team" is that it?

    Just was looking for some consistency that’s all.

    FF have been known to commit insurance fraud in the past but never seen you mention it on the Maria Bailey thread.

    Two cheeks and all that.


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    #39
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Yeah, who may be in govt in less than a year, thanks to FGs incompetence, but they're no better or worse than the incumbents.

    Have you any argument against my post, or would you just not like me pointing out how one is as bad as the other when it comes to vote fiddling?

    Am I negatively referencing "your team" is that it?

    John, you have a bit of an unhealthy obsession with FG. I’d say you think about them more than the national executive of the party do. They are living rent free inside your head.

    This is a thread about FF.


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    #40
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,770 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    expectationlost wrote: »
    watch Timmy Dooley arrive in the Dail chamber speak to a clerk go to depart but then speak Niall Collins first then leave (between minute 27 and 28 ) see Dooley point to the seats...

    https://youtu.be/PHBlz7oS6_I?t=1651 via @YouTube
    note that Barry Cowen let Niall Collins sit in his seat while Collins voted for himself and Dooleyhttps://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/parliamentaryBusiness/other/2019-10-07_dail-chamber-seating-plan-sep-2019_en.pdf


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    #41
    Mad_maxx
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    Two of the least talented TD, s in the dail, hope both loose their gigs


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    #42
    marieholmfan
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    John, you have a bit of an unhealthy obsession with FG. I’d say you think about them more than the national executive of the party do. They are living rent free inside your head.

    This is a thread about FF.

    FG are the government .

    Their actions and inaction affect us all.


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    #43
    Sir Oxman
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    Ready4Boarding wrote: »

    No amount of underlining distracts from the fact that Collins gained nothing from "illegitimately using" Dooley's vote "as though his own." It is trivial, and you are only objecting because it suits your pathetic, lowly politics.



    :DThe pinnacle of debate.
    I'm tempted to ask a stranger what my politics are but nah, you be you.


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    #44
    Ready4Boarding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 143 ✭✭Ready4Boarding


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    :DThe pinnacle of debate.
    I'm tempted to ask a stranger what my politics are but nah, you be you.

    Eugh, I cringe.


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    #45
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Ready4Boarding wrote: »
    In reality, it's a trivial offence. Dooley would obviously have voted with FF and none of the votes was ever likely to have a material effect. But it gives you an indication of how TDs view parliament. It should be a place where you are awed afresh each time you enter; one should be on their best behaviour, as I have been whenever I've visited. Instead it's a place where Mick Wallace is content to wear a sleeveless t-shirt and Jonathan O'Brien a full tracksuit, where Mary Loud McDonald and Luke Ming Flanagan are bold enough to confront another member, where "Youse don't give a fu*k" is so in-keeping with normal proceedings that it goes unremarked upon, and where all manner of TDs are content to shout over the Ceann Comhairle and entirely ignore parliamentary procedure. There's much to despise about Westminster, but when their speaker stands, MPs listen, unlike here.

    Getting someone else to vote on your behalf is far worse than wearing the 'wrong' clothes or saying 'f**k'. Incidentally, Joan Collins' swearing didn't go unremarked upon. Even Timmy Dooley found the time to comment on it:

    https://twitter.com/timmydooley/status/1181996546885337089


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    #46
    Peter Flynt
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    Ready4Boarding wrote: »
    In reality, it's a trivial offence.

    It is in its b******s a trivial offense.


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    #47
    gazzer
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    Tooley and Collins have een asked to step down temporarily by Michael Martin


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    #48
    Ready4Boarding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 143 ✭✭Ready4Boarding


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    Getting someone else to vote on your behalf is far worse than wearing the 'wrong' clothes or saying 'f**k'. Incidentally, Joan Collins' swearing didn't go unremarked upon. Even Timmy Dooley found the time to comment on it:

    https://twitter.com/timmydooley/status/1181996546885337089

    Unremarked upon in the Dail.

    Peter Flynt wrote: »
    It is in its b******s a trivial offense.

    How crass.


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    #49
    Jimbob1977
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    The British have a 'pairing' system.

    If there's an unavoidable situation, e.g. a Conservative is in hospital or there is a death in the family, their Labour opposite will not vote.

    The decorum is that you don't profit from someone's misfortune.

    I doubt it applies in Timmy Dooley's case. He was probably just detained elsewhere.


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    #50
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Ready4Boarding wrote: »
    Unremarked upon in the Dail.

    It wasn't unremarked upon. The Ceann Comhairle asked her to withdraw it, which she immediately did.


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    #51
    Sir Oxman
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    Ready4Boarding wrote: »
    Eugh, I cringe.


    I'd suggest you stop reading your own sh1te then.


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    #52
    Professor Genius
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭Professor Genius


    gazzer wrote: »
    Tooley and Collins have een asked to step down temporarily by Michael Martin

    Poor old Dimmy, he was never the sharpest tack in the box as his awful Brexit intervention a few months back showed.


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    #53
    Ready4Boarding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 143 ✭✭Ready4Boarding


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    It wasn't unremarked upon. The Ceann Comhairle asked her to withdraw it, which she immediately did.

    The Ceann Comhairle wasn't in the chair at the time... So if it was he who asked her to withdraw it what must that mean? The Leas Ceann Comhairle did not remark on her parliamentary language at the time.

    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    I'd suggest you stop reading your own sh1te then.

    How juvenile. And my own..."sh1ite"? You really are filthy. I shouldn't have entered this swamp of crassness and stupidity.


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    #54
    Yer Da sells Avon
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    Ready4Boarding wrote: »
    The Ceann Comhairle wasn't in the chair at the time... So if it was he who asked her to withdraw it what must that mean? The Leas Ceann Comhairle did not remark on her parliamentary language at the time.

    Christ, such ridiculous pedantry. I think you need to grow up. Whoever was in the f**king chair, she immediately withdrew it. I'm not sure what more you want... a Dáil debate? An inquiry, maybe?


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    #55
    MrMusician18
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    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    The British have a 'pairing' system.

    If there's an unavoidable situation, e.g. a Conservative is in hospital or there is a death in the family, their Labour opposite will not vote.

    The decorum is that you don't profit from someone's misfortune.

    I doubt it applies in Timmy Dooley's case. He was probably just detained elsewhere.

    There is pairing in the Dail also.

    Not just used for exceptional circumstances but when say a minister is on a foreign trip.


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    #56
    McMurphy
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    gazzer wrote: »
    Tooley and Collins have een asked to step down temporarily by Michael Martin

    Fairplay to Martin for dealing with it in such a swift and decisive manner.

    That's how TDs acting in a dishonest manner should be dealt with.


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    #57
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Fairplay to Martin for dealing with it in such a swift and decisive manner.

    That's how TDs acting in a dishonest manner should be dealt with.

    As much as i hate ff and not a fan of MM i have to agree with this.it actually looks like propper leadership.Stark contrast to FG and their rogue TD's.


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    #58
    Ready4Boarding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 143 ✭✭Ready4Boarding


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    Christ, such ridiculous pedantry. I think you need to grow up. Whoever was in the f**king chair, she immediately withdrew it. I'm not sure what more you want... a Dáil debate? An inquiry, maybe?

    Goodness, you still don't understand...


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    #59
    Peter Flynt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    smurgen wrote: »
    As much as i hate ff and not a fan of MM i have to agree with this.it actually looks like propper leadership.Stark contrast to FG and their rogue TD's.

    Will Martin exclude Dooley from standing as a FF candidate in the coming general election if he is shown to have committed wrongdoing?

    That will be the real test, not asking him to temporarily stand aside from some do nothing job in opposition.


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    #60
    jelutong
    Registered Users Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭jelutong


    A song springs to mind.”Hang down your head Dim Tooley”


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    #61
    expectationlost
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    gazzer wrote: »
    Tooley and Collins have een asked to step down temporarily by Michael Martin


    trying to save their asses.


    the FF threadwreckers have been busy here


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