Nest with Electric Ireland

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Just switched over to IE with Nest from Energia.


I have four zones so I can expect I'll get one Nest for the 130 and can purchase the others from them and get installed via the installer?
Is the heatlink for each an extra purchase or does it come with the EU Nests in the box.

In hindsight I'm going to cancel the order as the Evohome would suit my setup better.

crazyhorse wrote: »

I got the following clarification from an SEAI rep when i asked if installing Nest would affect my eligibility for €700 heating controls grant in future.

", If the three following requirements are met after installation of the Nest system, you wouldn't be eligible to apply in future for the Heating Controls grant.
- Two zones (space and water) with 7 day programmer (time / temperature),
- Time / temperature control of electric immersion,
- 1 additional zone OR installation of sufficient Thermostatic Radiator Valves."

My understanding is that if any one of the above listed measures were to be carried out in future e.g. installation of TRVs, then I would still be eligible for the grant.

Thanks crazyhorse. We've two switches, one for downstairs heating and the other is for hot water and upstairs heating. I'm assuming that it'll be the downstairs switch that would be replaced with the Hub so going by the conditions you mentioned above then we should be OK to still get the grant

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Had a fella call round from Electric Ireland to install Nest today.


Dunno why but had a feeling it wouldn't go well :pac: Anyway my piece of **** bolier which is already an issue only allows for the heating to be turned on with the water being turned on at the same time so doesn't support Nest!


Have to wait on my refund now.... Wonder how long will take?

So the hot water controls the radiators?

The whole setup in my place is a bit ****e. The boiler is giving issues of late makes a load of high pitched noise after few mins being on then stops. Not all the radiators are the same temperature half the time and house is badly insulated so ya fun all round!

The wind that's out there now will basically go right threw front my place could have heating on for ages soon as goes off heat won't hang around for long!

adox wrote: »

I’m a little confused now after the last few posts. I posted the above a couple of weeks ago and the general consensus was that Nest would work with it but now it seems maybe not??

Did ya ring thrm?

ted1 wrote: »

Ok that sounds pretty standard. Can’t see why he couldn’t install it.

We have a gas boiler and it heats the water and radiators. Can’t separate the two.

It works no problem

I have a switch on the wall one side has button that goes on for heating other for water. The boiler will not start up fully till both are switched on. This was reason he said not to install as it would cause issues.

Bascially he said there told not to install them where there will be issues as Electric Ireland don't want the complaints.

Originally Posted by adox View Post

Will this work with an old gas boiler? Ours is nearly 20 years old. It’s heats the water automatically when the heating is on. The only way to change this is to pull the handle over at the tank in the hot press so you shut the rads off and it heats the water only.

We had this setup in our old house - it was installed by a very old school plumber. Anyway we got someone else in to sort it out which basically involved a couple of motorised valves and a new controller which gave us independent control of hot water and heating with no need to be pulling handles any more. So probably possible to keep your old boiler but if it's 20 years would be pretty inefficient and probably nearing the end of its life.

Whipping Boy wrote: »

We had ours installed a few weeks back. Was working fine at the start but in the last week or so a number of our rads are now not heating at all. We have a one zone house.

Do you have multi zones? If not, then I can't see how Nest could have anything to do with it, as it's essentially just an on/off switch at the end of the day.

Mine is being installed tomorrow morning. Got a text from the installer today confirming it, I told him I had an appointment for the second one to be installed next Monday and if he would be able to install both tomorrow to save himself the trouble of calling back again. He said he is scheduled to install one only tomorrow and has a full schedule for tomorrow so I said grand, works out all the same for me.

Had mine installed this morning. Only needed the one Nest installed in the end as it seems I do only have the one zone despite having a stat downstairs and upstairs. Due to the way my heating system is setup I can not control the two existing stats individually via Nest. So Nest heats all the house at once rather than different temperatures for downstairs and upstairs. That's fine for me as the old thermostat upstair was set at one temperature and rarely ever adjusted from that.

The Nest heat link was put on the wall in the kitchen where the old mechanical timer switch was. Next to this I have an on/off switch for the heating system which remains but needs to be left switched on all the time so that Nest can function which makes sense. He disconnected the old stats in the hall and landing as they are now redundant but I had him leave them in place on the wall for the time being as there would be big holes left where they are. The Nest stat itself could not be mounted on the wall where the old stat is as the stats were connected up to the house circuit which would fry the Nest controller as it works off a lower voltage. I'll remove them myself at a later date once I decide how I want to fill in the holes or get it rewired for the Nest stat to be placed there permanently. EI also supply a cradle stand for the Nest stat which has a usb/mains charger that needs to be plugged in all the time for the stat to talk to the heat link on the kitchen wall. I put the Nest stat up in the main bedroom which seems to be the optimum location to monitor the temperature in the house.

Nest app seems a bit laggy from my phone in the house but adding it to my existing Google Home hub was simple so now have voice control of Nest through Google Assistant. The installer brought the free Google Home Mini with him too when he arrived. I have 3 around the house already so it might come in handy as a present for someone.

I’m a bit late to the game here but has anyone recently had luck getting this without changing to EI? The website won’t allow it but I may chance my arm and call tomorrow!

mathie wrote: »

Anyone know if you get the Nest can you control Philips Vue lights without a bridge?
Or any lights without a bridge?
thanks

You need a bridge to control Hue lights. There are bulbs that don't require a bridge but I'm a Hue user so I can't say for sure which ones.

bazz26 wrote: »

The free Google Home Mini that currently comes with the Nest from EI is a hub for Google Assistant which can control Philips Hue bulbs.

You still need the bridge for Hue control, AFAIK

mathie wrote: »

Anyone know if you get the Nest can you control Philips Vue lights without a bridge?
Or any lights without a bridge?
thanks

The bigger Alexas have a Zigbee bridge built in so can control Hue/IKEA/many other lights directly, but with a potentially limited set of functions compared to the matching branded bridge. But if you've already gone down the Google route, that's no use.

IKEAs bridge is probably cheapest but least features currently. I've got entirely IKEA for cost reasons, have the entire house done for about half the price of Hue but some stuff is just a tad unreliable or not as good.

Climote only replaces your existing timer and requires an annual subscription service for managing it remotely through GSM.

sy wrote: »

I have a 2 zone heating system with a combi boiler system which heats the water as I need it. Will one Nest be sufficient to control the 2 zone system or will I need two Nests ? Thanks

Two nests needed.

bigtimecharlie wrote: »

Nest installed via EI last week. I have a LPG boiler (Ferrolli wall hung system boiler as per pdf manual) that was controlled with a mechanical timer and 2 zones, one stat in the hall the other stat in the main bedroom.

No issue with installation, was told to set both stat's to max and let nest do the rest.

It seems that my boiler is running constantly, and only heating some of the time. So the hum from the boiler is irritating.

When reviewing my account online rather than on phone, I seen an equipment setting that we were running oil, and that this setting could only be changed on the nest itself. When I got home from work and looked at the setting, there are 2 boiler types, system and combi(which it was set to), then options for gas, oil or electric, and then a delivery method which is set to radiators.

I set the boiler type to system with gas heating and all seems well with the boiler, only heating when the set point on the schedule is above the ambient temp seen by the Nest which we have located in kitchen. However, no hot water feature so cold water in the hot taps.

So I change back to combi boiler this evening and now the boiler is running constantly,with the burner light turning on and off.
Dropped the temperature on the nest to have the heating set point lower than ambient and it still runs. So I eventually turned off the heating via the app.

Is this a normal set-up or am I missing something? Prefer the system boiler and the way it ran but need the hot water also. Is this something that the nest can't/won't do.

I have an immersion as a back-up for water.

You have 3 zones.

To be right you need another nest for upstairs.

You could keep the existing time clock that you originally used for hot water as I'm sure you could do this separately.
Use this and set times for hot water.

Use nest for heating and look at getting another for upstairs as having it set at max upstairs makes it call for heat.

punisher5112 wrote: »

Make sure it's set up that you can still use the original set up to control the hot water.

Why?

The Nest can control the water an the downstairs, remotely if required. why would you not want the Nest to control the water?