Shed painters/ scrap collectors

exercise is the antidote · 18-08-2014 2:41pm #1

Had a visit from shed painters this morning. They got some fright when I recognised one of them from school... WELL JERRY HOWS IT GOING!! The stutters from him

..they went on there way fairly quick

How do you deal with these feckers eh?! Wouldn't of liked if the father was there on his own when they called.

sea12 · 18-08-2014 11:11pm

Had it a whole ago. They called about 5 times when the father was there. Father said my don is the boss now and he is not here. That's why he called 5 times trying to ask me. Anyway told him I want interested and in fairness he fecked off.

Shed could off done with the paint though but wouldn't trust him.

epfff · 18-08-2014 11:16pm

sea12 wrote: »

Had it a whole ago. They called about 5 times when the father was there. Father said my don is the boss now and he is not here. That's why he called 5 times trying to ask me. Anyway told him I want interested and in fairness he fecked off.

Shed could off done with the paint though but wouldn't trust him.

I blame people who let the paint
No vat no tax etc
They are no good to the country
If they wernt getting work they wouldnt be so fond of pouching round

Zoo4m8 · 19-08-2014 7:54am

The word here is NEVER... Never let them paint, never buy gates, never buy tools, do not engage with them in any (friendly!) way.. Do not give them the opportunity to look about..stick a camera up at the entrance of the yard working or otherwise.
From the time they blow the horn in the yard they are watching.. How quickly someone appeared, the owners manner, age, are they fit, is there a dog , if so is it wicked..and so on, believe me I know what I'm talking about.

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 9:19am

Zoo4m8 wrote: »

The word here is NEVER... Never let them paint, never buy gates, never buy tools, do not engage with them in any (friendly!) way.. Do not give them the opportunity to look about..stick a camera up at the entrance of the yard working or otherwise.
From the time they blow the horn in the yard they are watching.. How quickly someone appeared, the owners manner, age, are they fit, is there a dog , if so is it wicked..and so on, believe me I know what I'm talking about.

You can learn alot from a place in the first few minutes alright

whisky_galore · 19-08-2014 9:41am

Even if they're not 'casing the joint' for goodies, paint sprayed on with a fcuk load of thinners is going to wash off with the first shower of rain.

Satriale · 19-08-2014 11:01am

Zoo4m8 wrote: »

The word here is NEVER... Never let them paint, never buy gates, never buy tools, do not engage with them in any (friendly!) way.. Do not give them the opportunity to look about..stick a camera up at the entrance of the yard working or otherwise.
From the time they blow the horn in the yard they are watching.. How quickly someone appeared, the owners manner, age, are they fit, is there a dog , if so is it wicked..and so on, believe me I know what I'm talking about.

Never even be polite, they will take you for a mark. Always let them see you walking around the van for the number.

sako 85 · 19-08-2014 12:43pm

I don't mean to divert from the topic but I've been meaning to ask this question for a while. What would the cost roughly be from a reputable contractor to paint a 3 span lean to round roof hayshed? (Mod might want to start a new thread)

whitebriar · 19-08-2014 12:46pm

Satriale wrote: »

Never even be polite, they will take you for a mark. Always let them see you walking around the van for the number.

Had one here recently with FALSE number plates.

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 12:49pm

whitebriar wrote: »

Had one here recently with FALSE number plates.

Did ya run the plates

whitebriar · 19-08-2014 12:54pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Did ya run the plates

Reported him yes.

whisky_galore · 19-08-2014 12:56pm

There's a lad that went to school with me going round selling insurance door to door, not sure if dodgy or not. Just using the 'old school buddy' speil to cosy up to potential customers.

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 1:09pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

There's a lad that went to school with me going round selling insurance door to door, not sure if dodgy or not. Just using the 'old school buddy' speil to cosy up to potential customers.

That's a dangerous angle to be using as people will know him

foxy farmer · 19-08-2014 2:15pm

A lot of sheds painted around here in last few years by the johnny boys. What I don't get is why people let them in when they can be so shrewd when it comes to builders contractors etc. Is it the low prices or the sudden loss of ability to say no? Was plagued with the painters here 2 years ago. I have one old round roof shed and leanto thats crying out for a coat of paint. Was like a magnet for them. 3 different crowds called. Giving out flyers putting up signs on poles signs on pickups ads in Journal as well. Landline nos are often bogus. Gave them a tall story about lad working here getting hurt and costing me 70k. No work by outsiders without VAT No and checking out their insurance cover. He knew he was bate then. Can't stand the sight of them in the yard. Had a visit from a local lad looking for a part for vintage plough. His brother has a fondness for diesel. Had agri diesel in locked tank up on stand in yard. He was hardly gone out the gate when I was shifting it indoors. A late night raid was almost a certainty.

whelan2 · 19-08-2014 2:22pm

what happens if one of these go boys falls off your shed roof?

foxy farmer · 19-08-2014 2:38pm

Anyone who goes around canvassing for work isnt up to much but chancing his arm. I've seen some of them at work. Would be an attraction in Duffys circus. Two lads holding powerwasher hose while yer man washes lower edges of round roof shed with a 20 ft drop into open slurry pit. Could get interesting if there was an accident alright. Insurance companies wont cover work on ladder over 12ft or something. Scaffold, Hoist, or basket on loader.

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 4:24pm

whelan2 wrote: »

what happens if one of these go boys falls off your shed roof?

Its your public liability that gets hit as far as I know

Greengrass1 · 19-08-2014 4:40pm

Castle paints had an add in journal last week saying to ring them to find a reputable stockist and painting contractor in your area

exercise is the antidote · 19-08-2014 8:00pm

Just seen a travelling man with cattle trailer on the back of his jeep in town..hardly his own.

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 8:03pm

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

Just seen a travelling man with cattle trailer on the back of his jeep in town..hardly his own.

No half cut locks on it or anything

exercise is the antidote · 19-08-2014 8:05pm

Reggie. wrote: »

No half cut locks on it or anything

Didn't get that close to it,

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 8:06pm

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

Didn't get that close to it, pulled out of a haunting site.

I'd be more interested in what will be in it later on

exercise is the antidote · 19-08-2014 8:08pm

Reggie. wrote: »

I'd be more interested in what will be in it later on

I'd be more interested in what does he need a cattle trailer for

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 8:08pm

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

I'd be more interested in what does he need a cattle trailer for

The piebalds

exercise is the antidote · 19-08-2014 8:09pm

Horse box maybe but not a cattle trailer.

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 8:19pm

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

Horse box maybe but not a cattle trailer.

Ah but them boys like to get something that they can "multi task" with

rushvalley · 19-08-2014 10:14pm

The best gates I ever bought came out of the back of a transit :cool: . The local coop gates are nothing compared to them and I got 2 gates for the price of one

I hope he visits again soon I need more gates :P . Still hate the sight of them around the place though as the majority of them are only looking to see whats left out handy to lift.

ganmo · 19-08-2014 10:18pm

Reggie. wrote: »

The piebalds

Your not supposed to carry horses in cow boxes, there are different legal requirements.

jt65 · 19-08-2014 10:22pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Its your public liability that gets hit as far as I know

PL won't cover

Greengrass1 · 19-08-2014 10:24pm

ganmo wrote: »

Your not supposed to carry horses in cow boxes, there are different legal requirements.

I say that crowd couldn't give less of a toss

ganmo · 19-08-2014 10:26pm

rushvalley wrote: »

The best gates I ever bought came out of the back of a transit :cool: . The local coop gates are nothing compared to them and I got 2 gates for the price of one I hope he visits again soon I need more gates :P . Still hate the sight of them around the place though as the majority of them are only looking to see whats left out handy to lift.

The only gate we ever got off them has a slanty bolt feckin annoying thing, same gate has gotten some abuse over de years though, the highlight being getting slammed by a wheel off a moffett

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 10:27pm

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I say that crowd couldn't give less of a toss

Was gonna say the same

whelan2 · 19-08-2014 10:28pm

rushvalley wrote: »

The best gates I ever bought came out of the back of a transit :cool: . The local coop gates are nothing compared to them and I got 2 gates for the price of one I hope he visits again soon I need more gates :P . Still hate the sight of them around the place though as the majority of them are only looking to see whats left out handy to lift.

if its the same guy he is coming here 20 years, a very honest fella. Only one i buy anything off. Gates are great and good value.

Reggie. · 19-08-2014 10:29pm

whelan2 wrote: »

if its the same guy he is coming here 20 years, a very honest fella. Only one i buy anything off. Gates are great and good value.

Where do they get them from tho

whelan2 · 19-08-2014 10:32pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Where do they get them from tho

he gets lorry loads of them and works off it, i will ask him next time. He is sound and if theres any problem he will take whatever it is back

rushvalley · 19-08-2014 10:38pm

whelan2 wrote: »

if its the same guy he is coming here 20 years, a very honest fella. Only one i buy anything off. Gates are great and good value.

ya thats him alright id say...black hair with a tache and a bit fat? I think hes from up your side of the country. Sound enough lad he would chat away to you about anything.

jt65 · 19-08-2014 11:15pm

whelan2 wrote: »

if its the same guy he is coming here 20 years, a very honest fella. Only one i buy anything off. Gates are great and good value.

one of his clan comes here , dead sound, bought tools etc, no problem

if we were busy would drop off stuff and call back later for payment, often didn't return for 6 - 8 weeks

Sam Kade · 20-08-2014 12:48am

A traveling man came into my yard one time and said that he would paint the sheds for half price if I left him put in a few piebalds for grazing :mad: imagine agreeing to that you could end up with piebalds all over the place and then they might decide to park a few caravans to be near the piebalds :mad:

Reggie. · 20-08-2014 5:35am

Sam Kade wrote: »

A traveling man came into my yard one time and said that he would paint the sheds for half price if I left him put in a few piebalds for grazing :mad: imagine agreeing to that you could end up with piebalds all over the place and then they might decide to park a few caravans to be near the piebalds :mad:

That would be some deal :rolleyes:

whelan2 · 20-08-2014 6:04am

jt65 wrote: »

one of his clan comes here , dead sound, bought tools etc, no problem

if we were busy would drop off stuff and call back later for payment, often didn't return for 6 - 8 weeks

the first gates my dad bought off him years ago had been filled with sand, " Them's great heavy gates sir" I still slag him when he comes here trying to sell more, he always says " sure i was young and foolish"

Timmaay · 20-08-2014 4:17pm

Salesman rocked into the yard awhile back on a nice shiny new avensis, very well groomed chap with a shirt and tie, even had a fancy hands free bluetooth earpiece on. Asked me if I wanted the sheds painted. I was busy anyways and took the card off him and send him on his way, was only afterwards when I saw the "OConnors painting and gates" or something that I coped rightly who they were ha. So be aware is all I'll say! Any salesmen who come in uninvited generally get the cold shoulder around here anyways, I'm well able to go out and find someone if I need to.

foxy farmer · 28-01-2015 1:09am

A neighbour had a visitor around 6pm this evening. 142 G reg VW Transporter being driven by man claiming to be from waterford. Van had signwriting advertising farm shed painting and repairs. Not what he was calling for though. Trying to sell troughs and buckets for feeding calves. Talk about diversifying!!
Luckily contractor was in spreading slurry and yer man's van was in the way of tractors leaving the yard so he had to clear off before the "hard sell".

lakill Farm · 28-01-2015 11:34am

if the right lad is selling the gates why not buy them.

know a lad who bought 16ft sheep field gates for €70

another client told me 6 feed barriers with the hinges and all for €1000 and he accepted a post dated cheque for 5 months later. you pay minimum 250 up here in the co-op and paid on the day

whisky_galore · 28-01-2015 11:52am

Wonder where they get all the gates and be able to sell them at those prices?
Are they rejects from somewhere? I know some of the furniture they sell have patterns that don't quite match up.

gozunda · 28-01-2015 12:02pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Wonder where they get all the gates and be able to sell them at those prices?
Are they rejects from somewhere? I know some of the furniture they sell have patterns that don't quite match up.

The scam works as follows - gates / feeders / troughs permantly 'borrowed' by visiting people.

Metal sold for scrap. Proceeds of this used to buy new gates etc.

Then 'unrelated' collegue offers other buyers these 'new gates' .

Best described as firm of recycling / money laundering. Seller also has opportunity to case joint.

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THESE BOYOS!

case885 · 28-01-2015 12:38pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

A neighbour had a visitor around 6pm this evening. 142 G reg VW Transporter being driven by man claiming to be from waterford. Van had signwriting advertising farm shed painting and repairs. Not what he was calling for though. Trying to sell troughs and buckets for feeding calves. Talk about diversifying!!
Luckily contractor was in spreading slurry and yer man's van was in the way of tractors leaving the yard so he had to clear off before the "hard sell".

Im guessing your based in Cork? Same fella called here 142-G VW Transporter.
Said spraying on the van but he didnt even mention it, was selling calf feeders, troughs then looked at my wellingtons and asked me if i needed a new pair even though there only a month old.. I just said no to everything and he eventually left but no doubt he will be back again.

foxy farmer · 28-01-2015 4:21pm

case885 wrote: »

Im guessing your based in Cork? Same fella called here 142-G VW Transporter.
Said spraying on the van but he didnt even mention it, was selling calf feeders, troughs then looked at my wellingtons and asked me if i needed a new pair even though there only a month old.. I just said no to everything and he eventually left but no doubt he will be back again.

Same chap. Was out around Bandon Clon direction yesterday.Called to my first cousin too yesterday. Was showing him some wellies too. I've escaped so far. Better leave the dog out for the evening. If the gate on top of the lane is closed they don't bother coming in.

case885 · 28-01-2015 5:27pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Same chap. Was out around Bandon Clon direction yesterday.Called to my first cousin too yesterday. Was showing him some wellies too. I've escaped so far. Better leave the dog out for the evening. If the gate on top of the lane is closed they don't bother coming in.

Yes thats right. Keep the gate closed for a few days id say. He was having a good look around out the van window, seeing if there was anything worth taking i bet.

foxy farmer · 28-01-2015 5:59pm

Probably had an accomplice in the passenger seat. 4 eyes are better than 2!
I know what they are capable of. 20 years ago few of them came into the yard here on foot. My uncle who was living here at the time had gone out checking cattle but left the door unlocked. Into the front room which was never used and proceeded to dismantle antique furniture. Uncle returned but never realised they were there. They scarpered when they heard him pottering around in the kitchen. It was a week later when I couldn't get into the room that we copped it. They had a bookcase dismantled and were in the process of taking it out the window when they were interrupted. They had jammed a chair under the doorknob so it couldn't be pushed in. They made their escape then. Thundering Fxxkers
This incident opened the uncles eyes. Never left a door unlocked after till he died.

case885 · 28-01-2015 6:39pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Probably had an accomplice in the passenger seat. 4 eyes are better than 2!
I know what they are capable of. 20 years ago few of them came into the yard here on foot. My uncle who was living here at the time had gone out checking cattle but left the door unlocked. Into the front room which was never used and proceeded to dismantle antique furniture. Uncle returned but never realised they were there. They scarpered when they heard him pottering around in the kitchen. It was a week later when I couldn't get into the room that we copped it. They had a bookcase dismantled and were in the process of taking it out the window when they were interrupted. They had jammed a chair under the doorknob so it couldn't be pushed in. They made their escape then. Thundering Fxxkers
This incident opened the uncles eyes. Never left a door unlocked after till he died.

They were lucky to get out unnoticed, shotgun would be the job for those scumbags. Parents would always leave the back door open, that has changed now.

st1979 · 28-01-2015 9:25pm

I just am polite and decline there services. Never had any bother with them. Buy a few tools off some of them. and no there not hot. There just cheap Chinese stuff you can buy from eBay a bit cheaper but sometimes a cheap version of the tool is all you need. even sold a few yokes to them that others would turn there noses up at. I know some are bad but it can be easy to inflame a situation by being rude straight off

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