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14-03-2019, 16:50   #16
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The biggest design flaw was having two Luas lines in a relatively small city that didn't hook up imo.
Maybe they didn’t fancy each other.
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14-03-2019, 17:04   #17
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Tram deaths are tiny.

Compare them to deaths caused by cars, which kill over 1m per year and nobody thinks cars are badly designed?

People walking near tram tracks which are very obvious should be looking out for trams. Simple.
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14-03-2019, 17:05   #18
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Good point. It blends in with the dull city streets, plus the skies are grey over Dublin 3 quarters of the yr.

A new paint scheme could definitely reduce incidents.
Are you really saying that people don't see a 60 meter tram because of clouds in the sky?

If they were looking at the clouds they wouldn't see the tram either.

Ridiculous argument.
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They should be fitted with Stuka dive bomber sirens to alert other road users and pedestrians of its approach
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14-03-2019, 17:25   #20
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Are you really saying that people don't see a 60 meter tram because of clouds in the sky?

If they were looking at the clouds they wouldn't see the tram either.

Ridiculous argument.
I'm saying that it blends in with the dull city environment. A fresh paint scheme would make it stand out better for drivers and pedestrians alike.
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14-03-2019, 17:30   #21
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Back when it was initially finished. They admitted (well their engineers) that digging out the embankment rather then building a bridge at Beachwood was a mistake.

The Green Line's original plans had a cycle way/walkway along the Harcourt Street Line section. This was never implemented as the two tracks were laid (far apart) to allow for the metro upgrade, which did not leave enough room. But now that the metro upgrade is not going ahead, a special cycle way is going to be built along roads running largely parallel to the track. Joint up think at it's best!
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14-03-2019, 17:33   #22
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Only 6 pedestrians have been killed in 15 years, so less than one every two years with over 41.8 million passengers riding it safely annually (or almost 100 million people riding it safely every two years vs one person dying), and of course most deaths and accidents are through the fault of the pedestrian themselves anyway

The design is fine and as good or better than most tram systems world wide
Is there any breakdown of where the unfortunate pedestrians were from? I'm just wondering if it was tourists or non-locals who weren't familiar with the system who got killed.
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You can say the Luas wasn't responsible for these other incidents in some legal sense, but the system certainly did result in new risks to road-users.
If the passengers on the luas were using buses or even worse private cars to commute rather than a tram the risks to other road users would be higher - the system significantly reduced the risks overall. so yes "new" lower risks, to replace old more severe risks.
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People: stupid?
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I think it's fine
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But now that the metro upgrade is not going ahead, a special cycle way is going to be built along roads running largely parallel to the track. Joint up think at it's best!
Newspaper headlines notwithstanding, the cancellation of the metro has not been announced. What has been reported is a quote from the Minister saying he would not accept a proposal which caused a 2 year closure of the luas. Nobody has proposed anything of the sort of course.
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Back when it was initially finished. They admitted (well their engineers) that digging out the embankment rather then building a bridge at Beachwood was a mistake.

The Green Line's original plans had a cycle way/walkway along the Harcourt Street Line section. This was never implemented as the two tracks were laid (far apart) to allow for the metro upgrade, which did not leave enough room. But now that the metro upgrade is not going ahead, a special cycle way is going to be built along roads running largely parallel to the track. Joint up think at it's best!
Metro upgrade not going ahead? That’s certainly not been announced.
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It could do with a bell sounding all the time.
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It could do with a bell sounding all the time.
That would be seriously annoying for all people living close enough to the Luas to hear it .
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That would be seriously annoying for all people living close enough to the Luas to hear it .
We could call it the "Everything's OK" alarm.
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