Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Rubberchikken wrote: »

Mrs browns boys should be eradicated at this stage.
A more unfunny talentless hack it would be hard to find.
Gerry ryan. He's dead. Get over it rte. And he wasn't even any good

I don't get MBB myself but they are set to be with us until 2026 so maybe we should get used to the fact.

Apparently even though ratings are down the contract is signed. Sound man Brendan

As for GR, tonight's show is a repeat so I guess it's fair to assume that most people know he is no longer with us.

He was very popular in his day.

Deleted User wrote: »

That's what they would have you believe. His best times were late night on 2FM in the 80s.

I guess "they" have me codded so.

I really thought he was very popular on his morning show.

I could be wrong though, I was never a fan.

Deleted User wrote: »

If your idea of entertainment was listening to an obnoxious coke-head reading stories out of the Irish Independent on air and making uninformed comment with zero research done then he would have been right up your street at that stage in his "career".
The rot hasn't just recently set in.

As I said I was never a fan.

More of a Pat Kenny person in fact.

I still think he was very popular but you are entitled to your opinion.

Deleted User wrote: »

It isn't an opinion. that was what he was doing. zero professionalism. reading the newspapers live on radio and making snide remarks. It only became obvious after his death why he couldn't perform.

I just said he was very popular.

I wouldn't know where to get the listenership figures now but people seemed to like him.

Work away if you want to give out about him.

RTe tried to foist a lot of 'talent' on people... if they made them money, they were 'rewarded', but only if they had a good agent.

(For example, Gay Byrne made millions for RTE-but didn't get rewarded for it until he found a better agent. Decades of making money for em, little reward for it).

When big talent started to want royalties, everyone else did too.

Tbh, I wasn't a fan of Gerry either- I liked Dave Fanning, I liked Simon Young. I found Ryan boorish.
Dave Fanning was able to do damn good work on TV. Ryan was... embarassing, when it came to TV.

Weather you like GR or not he was possibly the only person on RTÉ that may actually support the idea of their wages. I put them four categories.

Gerry Ryan - Pretty much 2FM's bread and butter
Ian Dempsey - People you actually needed but could care less about
Pat Kenny - Required to boost Newstalk audience but not much more
And the rest - resting on RTÉ ONE and Radio 1's audiences.

Very few of Gerry's, Iano's and Pat's.

I can't see anyone having the same effect on RTÉ Radio if they left as GR and ID had.

trashcan wrote: »

And that was the highlight

Actually I didn’t mind that too much. As for the rest of it though, I’d rather stick rusty pins in my eyes.

Someone in the mirror picked Thursday as the day of reference for repeats.

Sunday one of RTÉ ONE's biggest days had

6 News
6:30 Ireland's Fittest Family
7:30 A repeat of a repeat of a repeat
8:30 Fair City
9 News
9:30 A repeat
10:30 A repeat
11 A repeat of TWIP from earlier in the Day

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Claire Byrne Live, discussing OnlyFans with the most boring guy in IReland... and making a bags of it.

Did Brendan O'Connor have someone on a few weeks ago about, but framed in a completely different manner. ???? :pac: saying nothing.

Some loaded questions in that survey

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

So did Joe Duffy- saw folks calling people Joe out on twitter.
(If I'm ever kidnapped, my coded 'I'm in danger' will be 'I'm happily sitting here listening to Joe Duffy. I never listen to him ever).

Anyways, lots of it is scaremongering. Lots of it is like 'your poor, innocent, sweet daughter will be selling herself, doing all sorts of disgusting things in the name of money'.

'But what if my son does it?'

'Ah sure, fair play to him.... entrepreneur... etc'...

Just high five either one... the scaremongering is just bullcrap. But that's the media for you.
Happy to scare people about the unknown.

I see your point but it was framed in a completely different manner, to even that.

I was thinking at the weekend that if rte brought back No Disco, I'd probably stop all this complaining. Except for when I have my annual attempt at working the rte player for the kids to see the toy show.

News Item about a teenage girl helping to deliver twin calves.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Is this really news? Really? Reee-hee-heeelly?

I grew up on a farm, twin calves were hardly a rareity. Helped deliver calves quite often, couple of twins too.
Didn't get a news item about it.

And I'm not mocking the girl- would NEVER target a child. But rather, the cost of this 'news' item seemed like a waste of money.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Interesting article in the Irish examiner, RTe folks pretty much admitting the whole organization is stagnant, no new talent being hired or emerging, and pretty much no new blood for the last 6 or 7 years.

A cesspool of mediocrity!

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Interesting article in the Irish examiner, RTe folks pretty much admitting the whole organization is stagnant, no new talent being hired or emerging, and pretty much no new blood for the last 6 or 7 years.

Yeah there excuse for not producing anything is down to money, yet they have a massive staff of people.

As I said, RTÉ plan was cut content and get out the poor box.

It is strange that it took RTÉ's HR 18 months after her 65th birthday to tell the Producer to leave, I don't see how they could say they have a strick policy or that for new producers to get a change that older ones had to retire as it took them 18 months to get rid of her, and if they are so underfunded there would be no room to replace her, or replace the person who replaced her.

RTÉ should be asked who took over her role or if she was replace?

rightmove wrote: »

Sorry that couldnt happen. Toxic masculinity

Again, wouldn't say anything about the child-it could have been a boy, girl, non-binary kid or whatever. I'd have no issue with that.

I wouldn't it had anything to do with masculinity/ femininity, but I've noticed it's RTE trying to make all these 'upbeat' positive stories after folks called them out for their 'Misery' porn.

The only thing is, they're just odd stories, frankly.

Made me wonder if someone in the family was represented by Noel Kelly.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Interesting article in the Irish examiner, RTe folks pretty much admitting the whole organization is stagnant, no new talent being hired or emerging, and pretty much no new blood for the last 6 or 7 years.

There's no children's tv

That's where new talent has traditionally come from

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

But then again, they're trying to compete with Nickelodeon, CBBC, Cartoon Network, etc etc etc.

It's, sadly, not worth it.

By that logic RTE should just close up shop completely - what is the point of them when we have BBC, ITV, Sky, Netflix....

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

I was speaking more of 'divisions' in RTE. The children's programming was probably getting more expensive.

Sorry there Children's department had seen cuts from I think 2004 until 2015 when it had stagnated for a few years at €10 million. They dropped the department in 2016, saying we are committed to kids TV and we are just farming it out to indpendents, meaning we are keeping it at €10million, they spend just €7 on Children's in 2016 and then in 2017 the cut it to €3m, its fluctuated between €3 and €5m since then or as RTÉ like to put it when talking about their top stars .... just 1% of our budget our spend goes on "other things".

The rights to air these shows were probably getting more costly, (back in the day, many of these Murakami/ Wolf animated shows were made in IReland. So the rights were much lower for home produced content. But then those studios shut down). Nowadays, the likes of Nickelodeon or CArtoon Network are behemoths.

In fairness RTÉ did little to support animation in the 1990s but by the 2000s they were focusing more on indo productions. Most US and UK programming come from the €25 million the spend each year on imports, part of this package of shows, most of these shows are cost between 2000 and 3000 per hour (AFAIK children's TV is even less) doesn't help that they repeat that bitchy Dance show from Canada consistently.

They produce these shows, monetize em, make money on the merchandise. It's a major business now.

Look at how Zig and Zag did in the ****ing 80s on Merchandising, RTÉ had a major show like THE DEN ready for that type of thing.

They won't be able to compete. We see that with RTE's sports division now, which is shadow of what it once was. And they used to be seriously proud of their sports coverage. Now, they're lucky to get GAA.

Few cuts to sport. Though I haven't full looked into this.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Different era, too. When there was far less options on TV, and not everyone had Sky. RTE were getting 1 million viewers (or more) per week on the Late Late Show. Zig and Zag were so popular, they were poached by the UK for the Big Breakfast.

I think the closest, RTE got, afterwards, was Podge and Rodge. Even made toys out of them.

But of course, the idea doesn't sell abroad. (Apparently, they tried a different property abroad, but it didn't take off).

Nowadays, RTE fudge the numbers. Even the Toy Show, which was usually a MASSIVE audience (easily edging close to 2 million when Gay Byne hosted it) now has to fudge the numbers with a 'it had an audience of over a million people.... *'

*In 180 countries, who probably tried to watch it with the RTE player, but gave up after 15 minutes.

They dare not release the real numbers now, lest they make the doves cry.



The funding probably hasn't changed too much, but that's the problem. Others are constantly outbidding them for the rights. Virgin Media 1 has major money behind them now, and so they'll be expanding their sports division more. As will Sky.

One of the things Eamon Dunphy denounced, when he left RTE, was how far the sports department had fallen from grace.

Payin dudes like him 240k was probably one of the reasons.

Elmo wrote: »

RTÉ still had The Den for years after that, I think all of the characters from The Den were merchandised by Double Z (fortunately for them RTÉ didn't hold those rights).

I am pointing out that in a small market like Ireland that is really tiny they were able to get something from merchadizing, by the 1990s they've also got the UK on board so that does not count as much. (BTW while Ireland is small, I don't think it is that small even back then, but that's just my opinion).

Even still RTÉ have cut funding drastically to children's TV, in the last 5 years, not by the 25% that they had cuts by, but by nearly 75%.

Look at how much adulation that they have got from just producing Home School Hub, Children's TV is worth that in PR alone, and good animation will also sell abroad.

Much of the adulation was PR tho. My cousin has 3 young children-they find the homeschool hub thing useless. What they want to learn is math, english, irish etc. What they get is none of the above.

As far as animation goes... Ireland produces quite a bit of animation. But it's a mixed bag in terms of success.

For example, there was quite a bit of PR about a new Flintstones show being produced in IReland by Salty Dog studios. Got a lot of attention in the press. By the time the show came out... it didn't. As in it's never aired in the US, and wasn't shown over here either.
For good reason too-you can find the episodes online, and the quality on display is lacklustre. (It's name is Yabba Dabba Dinosaurs). Before the show aired, the studio who financed it were unhappy with the results, and so it got a one season order of 13 episodes, cut down from 22.

While the big film productions get attention (Wolfwalkers, for example) they don't recoup their budgets very quickly. Some of their earlier movies are still recouping their budget. (Wolfwalkers suffered by being on the little seen Apple TV, and also being hit by a pandemic. It's audience was miniscule when compared to the likes of Soul or Klaus). Once the money comes in, they have to pay it back to the people who helped finance their films.

Similar when they do TV shows. IT can take 7 years to get funding for a TV project. And just as long to repay the financers.