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Why do junkies always walk out in front of traffic?

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    #92
    Tammy!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Tammy!


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    I had a look at the Social Welfare site, and the information there conflicts with a lot of what you said. Nowhere does it say that a drug addict qualifies. If they are in receipt of certain SW allowances, they could apply, but not simply on the basis of their addiction.

    Was there anything there about free buggies though?


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    #93
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,490 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Tammy! wrote: »
    Was there anything there about free buggies though?

    There's a limit of three a week.


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    #94
    BorneTobyWilde
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    To get to the others side man !


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    #95
    dhaughton99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    corner of hells wrote: »
    What freebies do they get ?

    Free methadone and every other kind of tabs they can get their hands on so they can sell outside Christchurch.


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    #96
    Salthillprom
    Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    14dMoney wrote: »
    I've noticed this around the city. People will stop at a crossing and wait patiently, and Anto and Deco will just walk straight out in front of speeding cars, which then have to slam on their brakes. What is with this reckless abandon? Is it something that comes with heroin?
    They do it because they're off their bins and probably haven't a clue what they're at


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    #97
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,807 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    have you ever actually conversed with an addict?

    No. I have enough of my own problems without listening to a junkie tell me about how hard their life was. Also, I have no interest in it.

    As an aside, why is it that no matter where you are in the country, the junkies sound like they're from Dublin? Something I noticed over the years.


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    #98
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    I had a look at the Social Welfare site, and the information there conflicts with a lot of what you said. Nowhere does it say that a drug addict qualifies. If they are in receipt of certain SW allowances, they could apply, but not simply on the basis of their addiction.

    You do know they apply through unfit to work, disability etc etc....


    Look if you don't believe me go into the city and follow any single drug addicts hanging out and watch them board the bus free, the Luas, the dart, train or bus eireann..... They are even getting the nitelink free.


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    #99
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,490 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    You do know they apply through unfit to work, disability etc etc....


    Look if you don't believe me go into the city and follow any single drug addicts hanging out and watch them board the bus free, the Luas, the dart, train or bus eireann..... They are even getting the nitelink free.

    If they are the types who walk out in front of cars, I expect that they pay no heed to rules about fares.


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    #100
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    If they are the types who walk out in front of cars, I expect that they pay no heed to rules about fares.

    Ok seriously ill spell it out for you THEY HAVE FREE TRAVEL PASSES.....


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    #101
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    14dMoney wrote: »
    Anto and Deco

    Hey, I don't jaywalk!!


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    #102
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Ok seriously ill spell it out for you THEY HAVE FREE TRAVEL PASSES.....

    NOT ALL OF THEM.


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    #103
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    NOT ALL OF THEM.

    No as I stated only if they apply....

    Obviously those in full employment also that are on hard drugs but so far have been able to hide doing so.


    Look I couldn't give a fiddler's if you don't believe me but as I said I work with them and I know very well what I'm talking about.


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    #104
    Tikki Wang Wang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭Tikki Wang Wang


    14dMoney wrote: »
    I've noticed this around the city. People will stop at a crossing and wait patiently, and Anto and Deco will just walk straight out in front of speeding cars, which then have to slam on their brakes. What is with this reckless abandon? Is it something that comes with heroin?

    I’m eating my breakfast, Kate


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    #105
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,356 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Yes they do I work with them.... They are given the pass and even quite a few get spouse pass.

    This is the same argument thrown out there that kids don't have social welfare bus passes as they do.

    No way , you work with addicts.
    So do I , in drugs services and homeless services at all different levels.
    Addicts do not get free travel , if they are on a disability allowance, they'll qualify.


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    #106
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    14dMoney wrote: »
    Anto and Deco will just walk straight out in front of speeding cars
    They're homeless. If they get hit, they'll spend time in a hospital, in a warm bed, and daily food.

    Also, they'll get money that they can spend on drugs.


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    #107
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Yes they do I work with them.... They are given the pass and even quite a few get spouse pass.

    This is the same argument thrown out there that kids don't have social welfare bus passes as they do.

    Nope.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #108
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    You don't get out much if you've never seen a junkie using their free bus pass on public transport. 99% of them I've seen use one and I've often seen them getting their mate on it with them for free. It's an absolute joke.

    Again, nonsense.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #109
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Stowrwy bud, any loose change for a hostel?


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    #110
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    No as I stated only if they apply....

    Obviously those in full employment also that are on hard drugs but so far have been able to hide doing so.


    Look I couldn't give a fiddler's if you don't believe me but as I said I work with them and I know very well what I'm talking about.

    You don’t work with all the junkies. And a junkie could have one for other reason, as being a junkie and having a medical condition aren’t mutually-exclusive.

    I’ve been through the process of getting free travel in the recent past. It’s not easy. Like I said, not even all cancer patients get it, even some who use public transport daily to get to treatment. Those battered travel passes that didn’t feature a photo ID aren’t accepted anymore. The new ID makes scamming much more difficult. You need to get it first of all. And certainly companion passes aren’t handed out willy nilly.


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    #111
    worded
    Registered Users Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭worded


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Its not just junkies op. It's people who've been brought up with an attitude that other people need to watch out for them and keep out of their way.

    When ever bump into anyone just say .... “Why don’t you watch where I’m going ! “


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    #112
    worded
    Registered Users Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭worded


    Ah here .... give us a brake

    https://youtu.be/k-UjRhP_dbI


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    #113
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    You don’t work with all the junkies. And a junkie could have one for other reason, as being a junkie and having a medical condition aren’t mutually-exclusive.

    I’ve been through the process of getting free travel in the recent past. It’s not easy. Like I said, not even all cancer patients get it, even some who use public transport daily to get to treatment. Those battered travel passes that didn’t feature a photo ID aren’t accepted anymore. The new ID makes scamming much more difficult. You need to get it first of all. And certainly companion passes aren’t handed out willy nilly.

    Oh for the love of God.... I'm well fn aware my mother had cancer and passed away young....

    As she had worked and my father worked even though on absolute SH1t pay she was still turned down.... 4 kids, mortgage and all the medicine, it's actually so sad we had to go through what we did so young and my parents and us got no help..

    I'm fooking sick to death what i see going on out there.


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    #114
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 8,926 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    worded wrote: »
    Ah here .... give us a brake

    https://youtu.be/k-UjRhP_dbI





    :pac::pac: the yop


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    #115
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Usually see them with lucozade


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    #116
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Hey diddle de dee
    A Junkies life for me!,
    A tab of methadone and pint of Yop!
    A track suit bottoms and a shiney top!
    Hi Diddle de day a junkies life is great.
    Trouble with the law? There is FLA for me,
    Hi Diddle de dum life is never glum
    A shot of a needle and a box of pills
    a ride in an ambulance and a bed in A&E
    A junkies life for me!!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD78dtBhwtw


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    #117
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Oh for the love of God.... I'm well fn aware my mother had cancer and passed away young....

    As she had worked and my father worked even though on absolute SH1t pay she was still turned down.... 4 kids, mortgage and all the medicine, it's actually so sad we had to go through what we did so young and my parents and us got no help..

    I'm fooking sick to death what i see going on out there.

    Hey, we all have a sad story. Doesn’t make you right.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #118
    Foweva Awone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Do either of you actually know this? What’s the process for a drug addict getting a free travel pass? Enlighten me. I’d love to compare it to my own experience.

    Purely anecdotal evidence here ...

    When I was last in treatment (2 years ago) there were 20 women in the centre, almost all of whom were on social welfare of some sort. All would have been in addiction for years.

    Only two of us were on disability benefit (and therefore we were the only two with free travel cards) - I was on disability due to severe mental health issues, the other woman had HIV and liver failure.

    It's actually a really long difficult process to get on disability allowance, I've never heard of anyone qualifying purely on the grounds of their addiction. If anything I'd imagine my addiction would have gone against me in my application.

    Those addicts you see using free travel passes on the buses, I'd imagine a lot of the time the passes belong to sick or elderly relatives. After all, it's not like they usually show them to the driver, they just scan them on the machine. Everyone is entitled to a free travel pass once they turn 65, so I'd say it's not too difficult to find someone to borrow one off.


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    #119
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,745 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Also remember that many addicts become invalids and lose a limb or lose the use of their legs from infections. The addict I know will probably have to get one of his legs removed sooner or later, constantly in and out of hospital with blood clots.


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    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Also remember that many addicts become invalids and lose a limb or lose the use of their legs from infections. The addict I know will probably have to get one of his legs removed sooner or later, constantly in and out of hospital with blood clots.
    And?


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    #121
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,745 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Edgware wrote: »
    And?

    And therefore they probably get disability passes for transport


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