Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Itssoeasy · 10-08-2020 7:05pm

Cody montana wrote: »

I think Trump said he will.

I see what you did there. It's seems those executive orders that trump signed aren't as watertight as trump thinks/has been lead to believe because it seems at least two were memorandums.

Quin_Dub · 10-08-2020 7:14pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I see what you did there. It's seems those executive orders that trump signed aren't as watertight as trump thinks/has been lead to believe because it seems at least two were memorandums.

This isn't the 1st time that Trump has shown that he doesn't really understand the difference between Executive Order , Law or Memoranda.

Cody montana · 10-08-2020 7:24pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I see what you did there. It's seems those executive orders that trump signed aren't as watertight as trump thinks/has been lead to believe because it seems at least two were memorandums.

The us is in huge trouble and their president has no idea what he’s doing.

10-08-2020 9:42pm

Cody montana wrote: »

The us is in huge trouble and their president has no idea what he’s doing.

And many people seem strangely happy about it, which is worse.

aloyisious · 10-08-2020 9:45pm

I watched interviews of senior Trump Advisors [Peter Navarro and Larry Kudlow] on 2 different channels NBC & Bloomberg, both being screened at the same time. Navarro's was about his role as the Defence Production Act advisor to Trump, he talked about how Trump used the act 30 times to get things moving but could only instance 2 actual times Trump used the act in relation to the epidemic. Neither answer could be defined as exciting the Industrial Complex of the U.S into activities they were not already pursuing on behalf of the U.S against the epidemic.

Larry Kudlow was circumspect in respect to his boss, Trump, and the latest executive [funding] orders, using the word "SEEM" several times when he was answering different questions about the orders - the President seems to mean - like he wasn't fully aboard with the contents of Trump's orders.

Kodak seems to be in trouble with the regulators in connection with the granting of Covid-19 emergency funding of $765m loan to it, the regulators having put a hold on the funding, which seems to have been granted to allow Kodak get involved in the pharma-production business to help the fight against the covid epidemic. The funding was being provided via the U.S international Development Finance Corp which handles Defence Production Act financing. Kodak share price fell on the news after a rise of approx 1,500% at the end of July.

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/kodak-shares-plunge-after-u-s-blocks-765-million-loan-deal

Water John · 10-08-2020 10:18pm

Is Trump now planning at using EO to limit mail in voting?

ExMachina1000 · 10-08-2020 10:22pm

Water John wrote: »

Is Trump now planning at using EO to limit mail in voting?

Not planning . Threatening

Recent EOs

Income supports
Anti eviction legislation
Student loan repayment freeze
Certain income tax freeze on those earning less than 104k per year

Leroy42 · 10-08-2020 10:29pm

The man who slated Obama and said he would limit the use of EO as they were not what government was meant to be. The man who was the best deal maker in the world, has singularly failed to get any cross party deal throughout 4 years.

He is left scrabbling around with EO, which of course can be removed at the stroke of a pen when he eventually departs the WH.

If anyone needed any other example of what a complete disaster Trumo is, look no further than the fact that he can't even do what he said he was singularly qualified to do.

Maybe he should read Art of the Deal to get some tips

stinkypinky · 10-08-2020 10:55pm

Something going on at the White house, Trump escorted off stage by the secret service 5 mins into press conference

10-08-2020 10:56pm

Trump just got pulled out of a press conference at the very start. Not sure why. Looked like security pulled him.

stinkypinky · 10-08-2020 11:02pm

Under control now, secret service shot someone outside the white house apparently. Suspect on way to hospital

Mental Mickey · 10-08-2020 11:21pm

Jesus he's such a SPOOFER

The Unbearables · 10-08-2020 11:26pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

##Mod Note##

Enough with the silly sound bites

Up the standards please.

Excuse me? What soundbites. I'm asking posters opinions on Bidens obvious health issues.

Atlantic Dawn · 10-08-2020 11:29pm

The debates are scheduled for September 29 and October 22, will be interesting.

Itssoeasy · 10-08-2020 11:30pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Jesus he's such a SPOOFER

I'm not watching or listening but what exactly is he ****ing on about now ?

The Unbearables · 10-08-2020 11:30pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The debates are scheduled for September 29 and October 22, will be interesting.

Yeap really looking forward to them.

Itssoeasy · 10-08-2020 11:31pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The debates are scheduled for September 29 and October 22, will be interesting.

Interesting is one word that could be used to describe what they'll be.

fullstop · 10-08-2020 11:35pm

The Unbearables wrote: »

Have seen his latest interview?

Trump as much as I dislike him is going to destroy him at the debates. I want the Democrats to put someone forward who'll at least get out and oppose Trump.

Joe needs to stop hiding in his bunker.

Well the mask didn’t take long to slip.

One post to go from “i dislike trump as much as anyone else” to “Biden needs to stop hiding in his bunker”...one of trumps oft used phrases.

hetuzozaho · 10-08-2020 11:37pm

This conference is so odd even for him! Seems strange he came back after the shooting and then just chatting bout it the way he is. Hmmm

Username2017 · 10-08-2020 11:38pm

Cody montana wrote: »

The us is in huge trouble and their president has no idea what he’s doing.

Trust me, if you were one of the millions laid off due to Covid and living in the u.s you wouldn’t be saying that.

10-08-2020 11:38pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The debates are scheduled for September 29 and October 22, will be interesting.

I hope they're not in front of a crowd

alchemist33 · 10-08-2020 11:41pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The debates are scheduled for September 29 and October 22, will be interesting.

Are the rules agreed yet? I expect a bit of arguing between now and then if not

Atlantic Dawn · 10-08-2020 11:43pm

Vincent Browne would be great in the audience for questions.

Username2017 · 10-08-2020 11:53pm

Who’s telling me they wouldn’t want a president who looks after his own people. Americans pay less taxes because of him, they were getting over $1000 pw for months pandemic unemployment, stimulus checks and more to come! He’s bypassed the Democrats and passed another $400 pw pandemic relief as well as unemployment. If it was left to other politicians out there people would be out on the streets. He hasn’t sold his soul to fake news so unfortunately they only show the bad.

jamule · 10-08-2020 11:54pm

He loves his EOs. Whats next, is he going to go through laws and rights people already have so he can signal to people that he is there for them.

He said he would be pushing an “executive order” to protect people with pre-existing conditions, even though they are already covered under Obamacare, which the Trump administration is trying to dismantle.

Asked why an “executive order” is needed for a protection already in place (which he is trying to remove), Trump responded that it’s “just a double safety net”. He said he wanted Republicans to be known as protecting people with pre-existing conditions: “It’s a signal to people.”

The Unbearables · 10-08-2020 11:56pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Are the rules agreed yet? I expect a bit of arguing between now and then if not

Fingers crossed Biden turns up for the debates

Itssoeasy · 10-08-2020 11:57pm

Username2017 wrote: »

Who’s telling me they wouldn’t want a president who looks after his own people. Americans pay less taxes because of him, they were getting over $1000 pw for months pandemic unemployment, stimulus checks and more to come! He’s bypassed the Democrats and passed another $400 pw pandemic relief as well as unemployment. If it was left to other politicians out there people would be out on the streets. He hasn’t sold his soul to fake news so unfortunately they only show the bad.

I'm not sure where to start with this post so I won't start just to say a certain Romania gymnast in 1976 would have a hard time achieving a perfect ten on this.

The Unbearables · 10-08-2020 11:58pm

fullstop wrote: »

Well the mask didn’t take long to slip.

One post to go from “i dislike trump as much as anyone else” to “Biden needs to stop hiding in his bunker”...one of trumps oft used phrases.

I do dislike Trump, he comes across as an ass.

Am I not allowed question Biden around here?

extra gravy · 11-08-2020 12:01am

He said that the Spanish flu in 1917 (it was 1918) ended World War 2 because “all the soldiers got sick" :pac:

But Biden is the gaff prone senile one

Any Trump fans have an opinion on this??

aloyisious · 11-08-2020 12:01am

Username2017 wrote: »

Cody montana wrote: »

The us is in huge trouble and their president has no idea what he’s doing.

Trust me, if you were one of the millions laid off due to Covid and living in the u.s you wouldn’t be saying that.

Trump knows what he's doing all right, trying an absurd sleight of hand trick on the unemployment funding front with the agreement of the GOP against the Dems, only everyone [including the laid-off workers] can see the trick this time so much so that members of the GOP have felt it necessary to mention it because those members know the states wont be able to pony up the cash that Trump and Navarro say will be needed as the quid pro quo for the Govt funding. Even Kudlow knows the figures being sprouted by Trump's finance admin team as part of Trump's trick don't compute, as shown yesterday on TV.

Pedro K · 11-08-2020 12:02am

I'm tonight's conference, Trump mentioned the "great pandemic" of "1917" and said it "probably ended the second world war."

Spanish flu pandemic was 1918. Trump keeps referring to 1917. And jaysus, I really hope everyone is aware that the second world war was not at all in 1918.

extra gravy · 11-08-2020 12:05am

The Unbearables wrote: »

I do dislike Trump, he comes across as an ass.

Am I not allowed question Biden around here?

You're not questioning him, you're speculating on his health without any evidence of a medical diagnosis, like certain posters do here regularly. People are bored of it.

TomOnBoard · 11-08-2020 12:12am

The Unbearables wrote: »

I do dislike Trump, he comes across as an ass.

Am I not allowed question Biden around here?

Ya kno.. This thread is about Trump's Presidency...

So, the questions and such revolve around Trump..

In that context, Biden is the Democrats's selection to challenge Trump.. So any discussion that challenges Trump v Biden or Biden v Trump must surely fit neatly into this thread.

However, discussion of whether Biden is the best/worst/meh candidate, and the Dems ought to have done better or worse is IMHO waaaayyy past having already been decided. So, whether Biden ought not to have been selected because sooooo many better candidates exist and weren't chosen is surely a topic for a thread set up in respect of same.. But this one is about Trump, and as we head into an election is also about the person chosen to challenge him.

Hope this helps clarify..

If I've trod on mods' toes I apologise... No backseat moderation intended..

aloyisious · 11-08-2020 12:13am

Username2017 wrote: »

Who’s telling me they wouldn’t want a president who looks after his own people. Americans pay less taxes because of him, they were getting over $1000 pw for months pandemic unemployment, stimulus checks and more to come! He’s bypassed the Democrats and passed another $400 pw pandemic relief as well as unemployment. If it was left to other politicians out there people would be out on the streets. He hasn’t sold his soul to fake news so unfortunately they only show the bad.

Deferred tax payments are the kicker for those taxpayers who are not paying it right now. Trump is not giving them clemency or a pardon from payment of those taxes. The states are required to pony up cash as part of the $400 deal he's pushing, said being a quid pro quo which Trump doesn't care about as it gives him an out when it comes to people start asking questions about his Executive Orders legitimacy. He'll say the failure lies elsewhere as usual.

ExMachina1000 · 11-08-2020 12:17am

aloyisious wrote: »

Deferred tax payments are the kicker for those taxpayers who are not paying it right now. Trump is not giving them clemency or a pardon from payment of those taxes. The states are required to pony up cash as part of the $400 deal he's pushing, said being a quid pro quo which Trump doesn't care about as it gives him an out when it comes to people start asking questions about his Executive Orders legitimacy. He'll say the failure lies elsewhere as usual.

The vast majority of countries Ireland included will have a tax owed on relief payments

Username2017 · 11-08-2020 12:31am

aloyisious wrote: »

Deferred tax payments are the kicker for those taxpayers who are not paying it right now. Trump is not giving them clemency or a pardon from payment of those taxes. The states are required to pony up cash as part of the $400 deal he's pushing, said being a quid pro quo which Trump doesn't care about as it gives him an out when it comes to people start asking questions about his Executive Orders legitimacy. He'll say the failure lies elsewhere as usual.

Well a lot of people are been given more money that they ever earned while they were working so I don’t see why they shouldn’t be taxed. I’m glad he opened up the country . He sees though the fake news and the fake numbers. As do a lot of Americans. It’s the ones who are still quarantining waiting for the miracle vaccine , that I worry about.

Tell me how · 11-08-2020 12:49am

Username2017 wrote: »

Well a lot of people are been given more money that they ever earned while they were working so I don’t see why they shouldn’t be taxed. I’m glad he opened up the country . He sees though the fake news and the fake numbers. As do a lot of Americans. It’s the ones who are still quarantining waiting for the miracle vaccine , that I worry about.

More than 2.5 times Americans have died from Corona than have died in all military conflicts involving America since and including the Vietnam war.

163,000 versus 65,919.

In what way are these fake numbers?

Carfacemandog · 11-08-2020 2:10am

The hospitals reported their numbers to the CDC until July 15th. The white house ordered they be reported to them instead from that date on. Within 5 days of that, the rolling average had gone from a sharp incline to completely levelled off, and a few days later it began to drop - they are now about 20% down from their mid/late July peak despite extremely few lockdown measures being in place and a huge number of Americans refusing to wear masks and congregating in close numbers without social distancing daily.

'Fake numbers' might well prove to be the case after all.

Quin_Dub · 11-08-2020 9:01am

A bunch of trolling posts and responses deleted this morning and some card given.

Up the standards please.

If you post a statement , please be prepared to back it up with factual evidence.

Quin_Dub · 11-08-2020 9:18am

And in an almost Pavlovian response to a Trump gaffe , Hannity et al go in hard on Biden for his stammer on Fox News last night to deflect attention.

Elsewhere in the clip, Biden stumbled over the word “fitness,” briefly stuttering as he repeated the word a couple of times.

Paraphrasing Biden’s remarks, Hannity turned to Schlapp and began impersonating the ex-veep while exaggeratedly stammering when he tried to say “fitness.”

“And I’d put my physical and mental fuh,fuh—what’s that word again? Oh, oh, ohh! Fuh, fuh, fuh, fuh, fitness! Fitness!” Hannity exclaimed as Jackson and Schlapp laughed.

So , when Trump says something stupid , they cover for him by openly mocking a diagnosed speech impediment.

Classy.

Christy42 · 11-08-2020 9:44am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3340770001

Well Trump found a positive to the 1918 pandemic in that it probably ended world war 2. The man has long since lost any clue of what is actually going on. He an comprehend someone complimenting him and someone insulting him but that seems to be the height of his knowledge at this point.

duploelabs · 11-08-2020 9:59am

Christy42 wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3340770001

Well Trump found a positive to the 1918 pandemic in that it probably ended world war 2. The man has long since lost any clue of what is actually going on. He an comprehend someone complimenting him and someone insulting him but that seems to be the height of his knowledge at this point.

Even if he meant WW1, the Spanish flu was spread by large amounts of troops being shipped home in close confinement _following_ the end of the war, not that it caused the end.

But I await some explanation from the acolytes, they'll enlighten us all as to what the God King actually meant whilst claiming Biden is suffering from dementia

11-08-2020 11:35am

Quin_Dub wrote: »

And in an almost Pavlovian response to a Trump gaffe , Hannity et al go in hard on Biden for his stammer on Fox News last night to deflect attention.

So , when Trump says something stupid , they cover for him by openly mocking a diagnosed speech impediment.

Classy.

Utterly incredible that that opening monologue could be considered news. The irony of what he is saying too. Everything he is saying is true of fox news.

Quin_Dub · 11-08-2020 1:18pm

So now he's talking about giving his Nomination acceptance speech at Gettysburgh!!!!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1292872318562205699

The Raging Bile Duct · 11-08-2020 1:46pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

So now he's talking about giving his Nomination acceptance speech at Gettysburgh!!!!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1292872318562205699

Isn't there a issue with Gettysberg being a federal site and sitting Presidents not being able to use these sites to campaign for re-election? I think there's the same problem with the White House.

Leroy42 · 11-08-2020 1:49pm

Won't matter to Trump. Norms and rules don't matter.

He will do it and let others debate about it.

Quin_Dub · 11-08-2020 1:55pm

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Isn't there a issue with Gettysberg being a federal site and sitting Presidents not being able to use these sites to campaign for re-election? I think there's the same problem with the White House.

Leroy42 wrote: »

Won't matter to Trump. Norms and rules don't matter.

He will do it and let others debate about it.

That's definitely the case with the White House and you could very well be correct about Gettysburgh.

Either way , it's a pathetic attempt to try to associate himself with American History , although consistent with the information about his inquiries about getting added to Mt. Rushmore

eldamo · 11-08-2020 4:02pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Utterly incredible that that opening monologue could be considered news. The irony of what he is saying too. Everything he is saying is true of fox news.

it is infuriating, these guys love accusing them opposition of doing the exact thing they are doing themselves.

I really am not sure of the reasoning behind it. I kinda hope they are aware that they are doing it and are just enjoying trolling and watching them darn liberals tearing themselves up losing it over the obvious hypocrisy.

An alternative is that they exist in such an echo chamber that they can totally convince themselves that they are in the right. Those dirty dems are 100% going to rig the election, so our only chance is to rig it even harder than they are doing it.

Kinda like lance Armstrong justifying doping because everyone was doing it.

Regardless, I really am at the point where I don’t think there is a lot of value left in arguing with these people.

Water John · 11-08-2020 6:40pm

See he's got an new covid advisor Dr. Scott Atlas. Telling Trump what he wants to hear.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/11/trump-adviser-scott-atlas-coronavirus-schools

Timberrrrrrrr · 11-08-2020 6:45pm

Water John wrote: »

See he's got an new covid advisor Dr. Scott Atlas. Telling Trump what he wants to hear.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/11/trump-adviser-scott-atlas-coronavirus-schools

And as usual Trump hires another yes man to stroke his fragile ego.

When the parents/grandparents of those children start dying it will be on both their hands.

Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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