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04-05-2018, 21:21   #196
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Hi guys just wanted to pop something in here in.
My dad started in Inchicore in 1967 and moved to Vanhool in the 70s back to the works when it all fell apart till his retirement circa 8 years ago.

I love showing him those pics of the df's and d's he was a master coach builder and its something that passed through to me I hope in the future I can get my hands on something from the place we can never speak of and have a father and son moment.
I remember being 10 reading all the vanhool manuals the first thought that went through my head was someone had to type that lol!

Csalem Id like to thank you on behalf of my dad for giving him those memories you only get with some pics like the 78 in fleet st or the 3 in Whitehall (that was the first atlantean I remember with the bell on the string)

So from me if I ever pass by Pearse st and see a man with a camera I'll gladly bring you in to a bar and buy you a cold one.

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So from me if I ever pass by Pearse st and see a man with a camera I'll gladly bring you in to a bar and buy you a cold one.

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So you're saying that....if I stand outside Heuston for a while with a camera, I might get a free drink?

"Csalem? Yea...that's me!"





(Alternatively you might end up with 15 different Boardsies doing the same as me....ending with a sort of "I am Spartacus" moment.)
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Hi guys just wanted to pop something in here in.
My dad started in Inchicore in 1967 and moved to Vanhool in the 70s back to the works when it all fell apart till his retirement circa 8 years ago.

I love showing him those pics of the df's and d's he was a master coach builder and its something that passed through to me I hope in the future I can get my hands on something from the place we can never speak of and have a father and son moment.
I remember being 10 reading all the vanhool manuals the first thought that went through my head was someone had to type that lol!

Csalem Id like to thank you on behalf of my dad for giving him those memories you only get with some pics like the 78 in fleet st or the 3 in Whitehall (that was the first atlantean I remember with the bell on the string)

So from me if I ever pass by Pearse st and see a man with a camera I'll gladly bring you in to a bar and buy you a cold one.

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Thanks for that. I am just happy to share my pictures with people. Most of the old ones were taken by my father.
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Thanks for that. I am just happy to share my pictures with people. Most of the old ones were taken by my father.
I was thinking you were doing well to be so sprightly still.

The whole archive ios a credit and to my mind is seriously important record of the oft unphotographed parts of Dublin (old suburbs etc) even before we get to the buses.

Definitely my favourite thread on boards.
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I was thinking you were doing well to be so sprightly still.

The whole archive ios a credit and to my mind is seriously important record of the oft unphotographed parts of Dublin (old suburbs etc) even before we get to the buses.

Definitely my favourite thread on boards.
Thanks. One thing I like to do is recreate one of his shots from the past, like I did here for the 61 when I did it for my Off The Beaten Track website.

OTBT: Route 61 (1) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

OTBT: Route 61 (2) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr
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10-05-2018, 22:53   #201
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A lot has changed in the thirty-five years since this photograph was taken. D 172 is seen parked at the 83 terminus on College Street. The bus was delivered new to Ringsend Garage in 1968. It was withdrawn in August 1983 and sold for scrap in 1984.
The 83 was a route that was in decline throughout the 1980s. In an attempt to revive its fortunes in the early 1990s it was the first route converted to City Imp. The double decker buses were replaced by minibuses which operated at frequent intervals. The strategy was a success and by the early 2000s double deck buses were back on the route. It was also extended across the city, operating from Kimmage to Harristown.
In December 2016 this location on College Street became the Trinity stop on the Luas Green Line. This tram route connects Broombridge with Brides Glen. 10/05/1983

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It is 1985 and D 755 is seen on Eden Quay. The bus is on route 6 to Blackrock via Ballsbridge. The bus was nearly 10 years old at this point, having been delivered new in 1975. It lasted in service until 1994, ending its days with Dublin Bus.
Although the destination shows Blackrock, the route actually terminated near Abbey Park in Monkstown at a place referred to in the timetable as "New Link Road" although the actual road was unnamed at this time. The 6 in some ways served as a short working of the 7 and the 8 which went further south to Dun Laoghaire and Dalkey. There was also a 6A for a time which served Blackrock and Sandyford Industrial Estate. The last 6 ran in 1989.
The bus is in an all-over ad for Bailieboro Co-Op.
18/05/1985

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The 6/6A were also duplicated with the 114 being introduced from 1987 onwards as a DART Feeder route until the last 6 ran in 1989. Thinking about it for a minute; you had a maximum of 4 bus routes going up the exact same route all along Carysfort Avenue up to Newtown Park & Sandyford Industrial Estate. The 17 would also be included as it went along a short stretch of Carysfort Avenue all the way up to Convent Road or the old Carysfort College from when the 17 began in the early 1970's and continued on using that stretch for over 20 years.

Then you had all the other bus routes like the 7, 7A, 8, 45 & 113 all piling in top of them near Frascati Road or the main street of Blackrock. It was a crazy period for using buses in an area like Blackrock at that time before I was born in 1990.

I will give you a snapshot of the bus route numbers between then & now to see the difference in how they evolved over time.

Past route numbers from CIE Dublin City Services - 5, 6, 6A, 7, 7A, 8, 17, 45.

Past route number up with Dublin Bus until Network Direct - 5, 7, 7A, 7X, 8, 17, 45, 46E, 113, 114 & 115.

Present route numbers before BusConnects project- 4, 7, 7A, 7N, 17, 46E, 84, 84A, 84N, 114.

Now after BusConnects in 2019 you could get this scenario.

Go-Ahead Dublin (Blackrock) - 17, 114.

Dublin Bus - ????? -

The remaining routes that stay with Dublin Bus for now could face a lot of changes from the public in how they run their services with BusConnects. All of these changes alike what is happening with the other routes in the GDA will be told from results from the public consultation & redesign of the network. In an area like Blackrock for example; the public have to face changing 3 Cross City routes, 2 Nitelink routes, 1 peak route, 2 social/work/school/college routes to Bray & Newcastle. 2 of the routes with Go-Ahead Dublin could be changed too under this consultation unless their routes & timetables are fully changed from the NTA.

Whatever way that this public consultation is going to how to pan out with all of the results revealed from the NTA or Jarett Walker etc. The results of this initiative could leave a marked change from the public in how these bus services fully operate across Dublin by linking with other transport networks in the capital. BusConnects could be described as an exciting project for certain people of this persuasion or an complex project for others to consider in their daily lives. What is well highlighted here on boards is that people would want a marked change in how these services are run for a new generation living in a city like Dublin.

But could that experience extend to other areas of society living in the capital? Who knows until the final results are published on the day itself?

Whenever the consultation with the public starts by possibly next month & finishes at the end of the year; the amount of information that is going to be processed about changing the bus network itself until all of it's feedback has been fully collected will be incredible for the organisations to assess & collate it. This type of information is the critical part of this consultation otherwise known as the hard data in how the bus service in Dublin is meant to be changed to run under it's new network. Vast swathes of the public will be going to various public meetings all over Dublin to talk about this particular project by giving critical information to the NTA in how they want their public bus service to be changed. Nobody in the city in this day & age should ever take this project as a joke. This consultation going to have a possible running time of six months which is a hugely complex & time consuming process for everyone to go through for any walk of life. For any person with a sensible brain in their head; this is very serious work to get through with a possibly a huge positive outcome at the end of it.

There will be a huge amount of relief when the NTA considers this as a great success once it's implemented. If that happens among everyone else; I will be a happy man to go through it. Then there is another possible scenario as a "what happens next?" if the project completely fails to change anything about the bus network in Dublin. I cannot predict what is going to happen next about the project if it becomes a success or failure. All I want to see for now if this project will get through it's initial hurdles of the getting the actual hard data actually collected from the public & presented in a huge series of reports for us to read through. BusConnects could be brilliant or a failure when the pre-implementation is over. I cannot wait until it's over. It's going to be incredible when it's all done & dusted.

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24-05-2018, 21:12   #204
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It is 1996 and RA 176 is showing off its European patriotism. During the second-half of the year Ireland hosted the Presidency of the European Union. This was the fifth time the country had done this since it joined the EU in 1973. With the increase in size of the EU (despite Brexit) Ireland has only hosted the presidency twice since then, and the next time will be in 2026. The bus received this special all-over livery to mark the occasion.
RA 176 was the first member of the RA class, following on from the broadly similar RH class. While the RHs were Leyland Olympians, the RAs started the Volvo Olympian era, although were Cummins powered. The RAs ranged from 176 to 325, with the first RV starting at 326. In total 640 Olympians were delivered to Dublin Bus. The last Olympian was withdrawn in 2012, the last RA in 2008 and RA 176 in 2007. Some continued on in the Driver School and City Tours but as of 2018 all are withdrawn by Dublin Bus.
The 45 has appeared recently on Throwback Thursday. It connected the City Centre with Bray, terminating on the southern part of that town in Oldcourt. Like the bus, the route is no longer active in Dublin Bus, but the 45A keeps the legacy going. Nassau Street, 24/05/1996

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It is 1992 and RH 64 is seen parked between duties on Marlborough Street. The bus had been delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1991 and entered service at Clontarf Garage. It is in an all-over ad for Harp Lager. It is worth noting that at this point in time these ads were hand-painted onto the buses. This is unlike the situation in 2018 where ads are applied on vinyl wraps. In some ways these buses were mobile works of art. As a result the ads lasted longer on the buses than they do now. This one had a lifespan of about a year and was also applied to buses from other garages.
The 32B was part of the 32 group of routes that served Baldoyle/Portmarnock/Malahide. The 32B ran to Abbey Park in Sutton. This routing was later absorbed into the 32 services to Portmarnock. Network Direct removed Abbey Park (and the 32B) from the Dublin Bus network in November 2012, with just the 32 surviving and terminating at Malahide. Residents in Abbey Park had to walk to the main road to get a new extended 29A.
This layover on Marlborough Street became the Marlborough tram stop on the Luas Green Line in December 2017.
30/05/1992

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It is 1992 and RH 64 is seen parked between duties on Marlborough Street. The bus had been delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1991 and entered service at Clontarf Garage. It is in an all-over ad for Harp Lager. It is worth noting that at this point in time these ads were hand-painted onto the buses. This is unlike the situation in 2018 where ads are applied on vinyl wraps. In some ways these buses were mobile works of art. As a result the ads lasted longer on the buses than they do now. This one had a lifespan of about a year and was also applied to buses from other garages.
The 32B was part of the 32 group of routes that served Baldoyle/Portmarnock/Malahide. The 32B ran to Abbey Park in Sutton. This routing was later absorbed into the 32 services to Portmarnock. Network Direct removed Abbey Park (and the 32B) from the Dublin Bus network in November 2012, with just the 32 surviving and terminating at Malahide. Residents in Abbey Park had to walk to the main road to get a new extended 29A.
This layover on Marlborough Street became the Marlborough tram stop on the Luas Green Line in December 2017.
30/05/1992

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I thought some were "wrapped", I remember seeing an RH in the early 90s being peeled in Donnybrook. Also pretty sure I have a photo from the early 90s of one with a torn off corner from a rear advertising. I think they faded terribly especially after a wash - either that or my memories are faded.

Perhaps an adverts thread is appropriate.

Question, which adverts have made it accross different classes? For example the Coca Cola all over advertisement was on RHs and KDs (possibly at different times).

Great photos BTW.
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^ I think this was about the time the wraps started to appear but I believe the Harp ads were hand-painted on all of the RHs.

Coca Cola ads have appeared on D, KD, RH, AV and AX:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/605019...57645184751658

If you include outside of Dublin then a KR can also be added to the mix.
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It is 1988 and a certain bus route only has five months to go. D 476 is seen on Burgh Quay. It is displaying route 54 to Cherryfield Drive, via Connolly Station. This route was a cross-city route that connected Donnycarney/Killester on the northside with Harold's Cross and Walkinstown on the southside. The route was operated out of Summerhill Garage, and ran in conjunction with the 54A. The latter route was cut back from the northside in 1988 and in November 1988 the 54 was cut back from the northside. While the 54A continues on today, the remaining 54 did not make it out of the 1990s. The 54A is also now operated by Donnybrook Garage.
D 476 had a similar fate as it was delivered new to Summerhill in 1972 and withdrawn in 1990. The bus is gone, the route is gone but McDonald's is still with us. 08/06/1988

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It is 1988 and a certain bus route only has five months to go. D 476 is seen on Burgh Quay. It is displaying route 54 to Cherryfield Drive, via Connolly Station. This route was a cross-city route that connected Donnycarney/Killester on the northside with Harold's Cross and Walkinstown on the southside. The route was operated out of Summerhill Garage, and ran in conjunction with the 54A. The latter route was cut back from the northside in 1988 and in November 1988 the 54 was cut back from the northside. While the 54A continues on today, the remaining 54 did not make it out of the 1990s. The 54A is also now operated by Donnybrook Garage.
D 476 had a similar fate as it was delivered new to Summerhill in 1972 and withdrawn in 1990. The bus is gone, the route is gone but McDonald's is still with us. 08/06/1988

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...and the amusement place is still there...
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A short hop back this week to 2014, but an important one. DM 1 is seen on South Great George's Street with a 9 to Charlestown. The bus is a Wrights Gemini 3 with a B5TL engine and was on loan to Dublin Bus as a demonstrator. It had entered service just two days previously and stayed for six months. The bus was used to evaluate its fuel saving abilities, through its lighter weight. At the same time Dublin Bus received a second demonstrator, DM 2, which was an electric hybrid. I think it is safe to say DM 1 was a successful trial as Dublin Bus have received Gemini 3's every year since 2014, and by the end of 2018 will have a fleet of over 400 SGs (their fleet designation). The Dublin Bus version do not have the side glass panels on the staircase like DM 1.
After its time with Dublin Bus, DM 1 returned to the UK and is currently in service with East Yorkshire, registration BX14 SYT. 14/06/2014
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