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lemush · 08-01-2021 2:50pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

Of course it is arbitary - it is an estimated figure for 'expected' improvement, I am not sure where you got the impression otherwise

"and the standard 10lbs progression from novice to open company"

Pogue eile · 08-01-2021 2:54pm

lemush wrote: »

"and the standard 10lbs progression from novice to open company"

Which I later explained, a number of times was a figure that I apply to my own novice ratings.

I didnt realise that you were simply being pedantic for the sake of it and am sorry I wasted so much time trying to clarify.

Good luck indeed!

RivetingRoger · 08-01-2021 2:56pm

Will ye two shut up ffs
This is a countdown thread, a bit of craic ....go fight elsewhere

IAMAMORON · 08-01-2021 4:39pm

No don't shut up, I was quite enjoying the barney.

This is what countdowns are all about RamJet. Healthy vibrant discussion.

Arguments are important - they amount to progress.

08-01-2021 4:42pm

Valuable discussion indeed.

I've just stuck a tenner on PTKO.

IAMAMORON · 08-01-2021 4:44pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

Just to add as well lemush, I am not trying to start an argument here, I am genuinely surprised at your surprise - if that makes sense.

I have always used the 10lb rule as a yardstick and never seen any reason to question it, I would be generally interested in other peoples views on this.

When you are looking at last season's novices and trying to see where they will end up in open company what level of improvement do you allow for?

2 wins for starters - which is around 10 - 14 lbs and if they are superstars they will win a 3rd or even a 4th race.

Roughly speaking.

It also depends on what their opening mark is or was and what targets are. For example a smaller outfit might be jogging one out through maidens to get a handy mark for a handicap. But if you are talking winners then I suppose a 10lb rise is not a bad stab at things. Put it this way, if it doesn't improve the 10lbs you do your money.

IAMAMORON · 08-01-2021 4:46pm

Plasandrunt wrote: »

I dunno where Put The Kettle On is gonna pull back the 9l he finished behind Chacun last time out?

Probably out for a jog and a bit of feed money. You can't be whipping them 5 runs a season or they get cute. I would say the connections were happy enough.

RivetingRoger · 12-01-2021 11:21am

63 days
three hours
Nine Minutes

Until ITV pipe a fake crowd noise to usher in the start of the Supreme Novice Hurdle

AND I CAN'T WAIT

Pogue eile · 12-01-2021 11:28am

RivetingRoger wrote: »

63 days
three hours
Nine Minutes

Until ITV pipe a fake crowd noise to usher in the start of the Supreme Novice Hurdle

AND I CAN'T WAIT

I think we will all certainly APPRECIATE IT...............sorry I'll get my coat

Coneygree · 12-01-2021 1:05pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

63 days
three hours
Nine Minutes

Until ITV pipe a fake crowd noise to usher in the start of the Supreme Novice Hurdle

AND I CAN'T WAIT

I just realised they'll have to do some amount of spoofing when the horse goes into the winning enclosure to no cheers and no crowds. Mick Fitzgerald will be gutted he can't regurgitate his usual spiel about "this is the one they all dream about".

IAMAMORON · 15-01-2021 6:20pm

pottokblue · 16-01-2021 2:59pm

Not long now until Chelt 2021! Hopefully some of the C19 restrictions will be easing up in febuary and that Irish horses, jockeys, trainers, stablecrew, owners, fans will be able to travel over and I'll be able to watch it in The (C) Box...

RivetingRoger · 19-01-2021 11:01am

56 Days
3 Hours
29 minutes

Until Ronan McNally pulls off the biggest shock in the history of racing and wins the Supreme with a horse who started the season rated in the low 80s !!!!

Pogue eile · 19-01-2021 2:41pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

56 Days
3 Hours
29 minutes

Until Ronan McNally pulls off the biggest shock in the history of racing and wins the Supreme with a horse who started the season rated in the low 80s !!!!

Looks a weak division for sure but I don't think it is that weak, I will admit I have only watched his last two runs once but the initial impression I got was that his jumping is nowhere near the level required, he jumps hurdles like they are on fire. Won't get away with that even in a moderate Supreme.

RivetingRoger · 21-01-2021 8:04pm

Anyone else finding the build up to, and general love of Cheltenham is the only thing keeping them going these days?
Its the first thing I think about after my morning slash and go to bed wondering should I lump on quilixious in the triumph.

I miss the pub but it's not bothering me
I miss going for a spin with the family but I have accepted it
Cheltenham is literally keeping me going

IAMAMORON · 21-01-2021 8:24pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Anyone else finding the build up to, and general love of Cheltenham is the only thing keeping them going these days?
Its the first thing I think about after my morning slash and go to bed wondering should I lump on quilixious in the triumph.

I miss the pub but it's not bothering me
I miss going for a spin with the family but I have accepted it
Cheltenham is literally keeping me going

I have started an affair with a 27 year old on the rebound a few weeks ago. She is a bear in the sack - I am loving it Ramjet. she has her own gaff around the corner, I met her through one of my sisters before Christmas. We are at it like Rabbits since Christmas eve - she is a nutter, savage yoke. I am worn out to tell you the truth. She is clatty.

She reckons Séamus Neville has a great shout in the NHC.

Just saying.

RivetingRoger · 21-01-2021 8:31pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I have started an affair with a 27 year old on the rebound a few weeks ago. She is a bear in the sack - I am loving it Ramjet. she has her own gaff around the corner, I met her through one of my sisters before Christmas. We are at it like Rabbits since Christmas eve - she is a nutter, savage yoke. I am worn out to tell you the truth. She is clatty.

She reckons Séamus Neville has a great shout in the NHC.

Just saying.

Your facemasks must be in ribbons

Pogue eile · 21-01-2021 8:46pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I have started an affair with a 27 year old on the rebound a few weeks ago. She is a bear in the sack - I am loving it Ramjet. she has her own gaff around the corner, I met her through one of my sisters before Christmas. We are at it like Rabbits since Christmas eve - she is a nutter, savage yoke. I am worn out to tell you the truth. She is clatty.

She reckons Séamus Neville has a great shout in the NHC.

Just saying.

Is she a vet? Should be able to give you a few winners if yes, they have all the inside info!

IAMAMORON · 21-01-2021 8:46pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Your facemasks must be in ribbons

She is special. Although she has a dog that her ex bought as a pressie, it barks too much and it keeps following us upstairs to where all the magic happens. We have given up on the kitchen table, the stairs, the living room floor and the bathroom now. It is all beddy byes now.

I am defo missing the pub alright. Or any source of social outlet for that matter.

We all need a break.

RivetingRoger · 21-01-2021 8:56pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

She is special. Although she has a dog that her ex bought as a pressie, it barks too much and it keeps following us upstairs to where all the magic happens. We have given up on the kitchen table, the stairs, the living room floor and the bathroom now. It is all beddy byes now.

I am defo missing the pub alright. Or any source of social outlet for that matter.

We all need a break.

You will have to get her a Ricci colours thong and a procush for valentines.....

IAMAMORON · 21-01-2021 9:10pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

You will have to get her a Ricci colours thong and a procush for valentines.....

Good idea Roger.

Pity the shops aren't open.

Do you know anyone good at robbing dogs?

I think I am going to do a Cheveley Park super Yankee for Cheltenham.

Envoi Allen, Sir Gerhard, Allaho, A Plus Tard and Ballyadam... it just wins.

RivetingRoger · 21-01-2021 9:18pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Good idea Roger.

Pity the shops aren't open.

Do you know anyone good at robbing dogs?

I think I am going to do a Cheveley Park super Yankee for Cheltenham.

Envoi Allen, Sir Gerhard, Allaho, A Plus Tard and Ballyadam... it just wins.

Envoi -, yes
Sir Gerhard - yes
Allaho - Dodgy, Mín a huge threat
A plus Tard - not for me
Ballyadam - which race? I am a fan

Would see quixlios as a good shout too

IAMAMORON · 21-01-2021 9:37pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Envoi -, yes
Sir Gerhard - yes
Allaho - Dodgy, Mín a huge threat
A plus Tard - not for me
Ballyadam - which race? I am a fan

Would see quixlios as a good shout too

I will wait until the decs Rog. At this stage there is no point losing sleep over intended targets, the amount of bullshight we will all hear about it over the next 6 1/2 weeks will end up wrecking heads.

I need to concentrate on my newfound sexual energy to be honest, before it flitters away again. That would be a disaster at this stage.

Dr. Bre · 21-01-2021 9:44pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I will wait until the decs Rog. At this stage there is no point losing sleep over intended targets, the amount of bullshight we will all hear about it over the next 6 1/2 weeks will end up wrecking heads.

I need to concentrate on my newfound sexual energy to be honest, before it flitters away again. That would be a disaster at this stage.

Mick fitz once said winning the national was Better than sex

IAMAMORON · 21-01-2021 9:48pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Mick fitz once said winning the national was Better than sex

He fancies Shiskin for the Arkle.

His insight is priceless sometimes.

Be careful - I have seen him put the mockers on good things before.

Dr. Bre · 21-01-2021 9:49pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

He fancies Shiskin for the Arkle.

His insight is priceless sometimes.

He reckons al boum has a chance in the gold cup..

IAMAMORON · 21-01-2021 10:15pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

He reckons al boum has a chance in the gold cup..

There you go ... the Oracle has spoken.

Lets see what turns up, but it has to have a great chance all the same.

When are they rolling out Champ I wonder? It is not looking good atm.

I am doing a big dirty huge hail Mary Goliath on the Tuesday morning. 50c ew.

Appreciate It
Put the Kettle On
Fury Road
Pencilfulloflead
Neverushacon
Melon
Glens of Antrim
SomeotheryokeIhaventmadeupmymindonyet.

When they all win I am going to buy a handful of nags and name them after Chrissie Hynde songs - watch this space. Look out for Back on the Chain Gang winning the Supreme in a couple of years - it is going to happen.

RivetingRoger · 22-01-2021 9:26am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I will wait until the decs Rog. At this stage there is no point losing sleep over intended targets, the amount of bullshight we will all hear about it over the next 6 1/2 weeks will end up wrecking heads.

I need to concentrate on my newfound sexual energy to be honest, before it flitters away again. That would be a disaster at this stage.

Kate Treacy having a naughty giggle about Phil McCracken coming from behind Eileen Dover on the FFP will sort that!

RivetingRoger · 22-01-2021 1:38pm

See NPHET now officially recommending mandatory quarantine for people entering Ireland.
Presume that won't stop people leaving Ireland to go to the UK?
The stable staff will probably all have to be in UK by late February to be cleared for mid March!
Will trainers travel?

The Mig · 22-01-2021 3:41pm

You’re close to going on mute now roger with all this worrying you’re doing. Control the controllables. It’s out of your hands so relax the cacks

RivetingRoger · 22-01-2021 3:57pm

The Mig wrote: »

You’re close to going on mute now roger with all this worrying you’re doing. Control the controllables. It’s out of your hands so relax the cacks

You're right kid
apologies

IAMAMORON · 22-01-2021 3:59pm

Rog it is irrelevant what NPHET say or do around Cheltenham, stop winding it up.

The Brits don't give 2 phucks what turns up from Ireland or not. They will be going ahead regardless.

If you want to have a genuine panic I would be looking at what the British cabinet are proposing, it is their country and their festival.

RivetingRoger · 22-01-2021 4:22pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Rog it is irrelevant what NPHET say or do around Cheltenham, stop winding it up.

The Brits don't give 2 phucks what turns up from Ireland or not. They will be going ahead regardless.

If you want to have a genuine panic I would be looking at what the British cabinet are proposing, it is their country and their festival.

I hear ya lads
Apologies

This is the THIRD year in a row where we can't just relax and look forward to Cheltenham without worrying about cancellations etc

Dr. Bre · 22-01-2021 4:25pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

I hear ya lads
Apologies

This is the THIRD year in a row where we can't just relax and look forward to Cheltenham without worrying about cancellations etc

What was happening in 2019 that could have caused Cheltenham cancellation? Sorry my memory bad

RivetingRoger · 22-01-2021 4:31pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

What was happening in 2019 that could have caused Cheltenham cancellation? Sorry my memory bad

EQUINE FLU!!!

IAMAMORON · 22-01-2021 5:00pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

I hear ya lads
Apologies

This is the THIRD year in a row where we can't just relax and look forward to Cheltenham without worrying about cancellations etc

Panicking uncontrollably on uncontrollables will cost you months of your lifetime, don't be wasting your own time worrying about problems you have no solution for.

RivetingRoger · 22-01-2021 5:12pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Panicking uncontrollably on uncontrollables will cost you months of your lifetime, don't be wasting your own time worrying about problems you have no solution for.

I can't control Abacadabras regaining his form either lad but it doesn't stop me worrying about it!!

IAMAMORON · 22-01-2021 5:29pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

I can't control Abacadabras regaining his form either lad but it doesn't stop me worrying about it!!

He has a great ew chance Rog. Great piece of form behind Shiskin in last years Supreme. If Shiskin was in the Champion this year he could well be favourite. There was nothing in it last year. 14's is a huge price. I would have no problem lumping on there, it is a lovely ew bet. Scratch his last run and he was never out of the front 2 in his life ( sorry 4th in the Champion Bumper - hardly shoddy form ), massively underrated.

IAMAMORON · 22-01-2021 5:40pm

I seen an article in last weeks Phoenix about the Stewards at Tramore - seemingly ABP ran the wrong distance?

RivetingRoger · 22-01-2021 5:40pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

He has a great ew chance Rog. Great piece of form behind Shiskin in last years Supreme. If Shiskin was in the Champion this year he could well be favourite. There was nothing in it last year. 14's is a huge price. I would have no problem lumping on there, it is a lovely ew bet. Scratch his last run and he was never out of the front 2 in his life ( sorry 4th in the Champion Bumper - hardly shoddy form ), massively underrated.

Preaching to the converted here
Epatante is the most likely winner, after that abacadabras is easily the classiest opposition.
Cheltenham form too.
Have a nice few bob on him and come the week will back him again.

RivetingRoger · 22-01-2021 5:41pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I seen an article in last weeks Phoenix about the Stewards at Tramore - seemingly ABP ran the wrong distance?

Lydia is a far better looking broad on a webcam than on course!!

IAMAMORON · 22-01-2021 5:45pm

Just on Asterion Forlonge - it is worth saying.

Al Boum Photo was not a great novice chaser by any means either? I remember he fell at the second last in Pery's RSA and then made a shambles of the last at Punchestown with the race at his mercy.... roll on 10 months... Gold Cup winner.

Even Ruby agrees.

IAMAMORON · 22-01-2021 5:46pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Lydia is a far better looking broad on a webcam than on course!!

She is a ride Ramjet, I love her, she is gorgeous.

Coneygree · 22-01-2021 11:14pm

Lydia Hislop? Jaysus I'd sooner throw the leg over Ruby. Lockdown has ye bate lads.

The Mig · 23-01-2021 12:07am

RivetingRoger wrote: »

You're right kid
apologies

Good man. Roll on March 16th

hawaii501 · 23-01-2021 12:35am

Goshen to regain the form from 12 months ago

Slattsy · 23-01-2021 1:35am

hawaii501 wrote: »

Goshen to regain the form from 12 months ago

Friday night heavy drinking. You love to see it.

hawaii501 · 23-01-2021 8:53am

Meanwhile back in the real world!

Do we think Buveur D'air regains the champ hurdle, tempted to have a nibble at 14s as if he wins today he'll surely be halved no matter what. You'd imagine he's got to win today to have any chance.

Pogue eile · 23-01-2021 4:01pm

hawaii501 wrote: »

Meanwhile back in the real world!

Do we think Buveur D'air regains the champ hurdle, tempted to have a nibble at 14s as if he wins today he'll surely be halved no matter what. You'd imagine he's got to win today to have any chance.

PP are 16/1 to win today and the big one, only an extra 2 pts but there is no way he goes there unless he wins today so if having a punt on the big one its a no brainer

RivetingRoger · 23-01-2021 5:01pm

Nicky still talking about the CH for the dear boy
Sure why not old chap
Will come on loads the bugger
Straight to the festival for him, the rascal.............

NOT A CENT OF OL ROG'S MONEY WILL HE SEE!

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