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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    So the interim champ should defend his belt against someone else while the undisputed defendes against someone else?

    Maybe he's on to something. Maybe there just needs to be a gold and silver belt, so there's always a number one and two in the division. Then further down the line bring in a bronze belt as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,938 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    So the interim champ should defend his belt against someone else while the undisputed defendes against someone else?

    Give your head a shake man
    Ferguson is the no.1 contender. Did he lose that position without a fight?

    Even White said that the lineups I suggest should be the order of things a couple of months ago. What has changed?
    How did we end up with an interim champ with the top three fighters in the division all fit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Ferguson is the no.1 contender. Did he lose that position without a fight?

    Even White said that the lineups I suggest should be the order of things a couple of months ago. What has changed?
    How did we end up with an interim champ with the top three fighters in the division all fit?

    Dustin Porier is the number 1 contender obviously since he won the interim title. He is the champ until the real champ returns then they fight to unify the belt.

    Tony's not fit, or at least wasn't .


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Tomas81


    Dustin Porier is the number 1 contender obviously since he won the interim title. He is the champ until the real champ returns then they fight to unify the belt.

    Tony's not fit, or at least wasn't .

    According to Dana last night he needs to be checked by UFC docs.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Lads lets be honest. If Ferguson is offered a Mcgregor match or a shot at Khabib he will take the Mcgregor match every day of the week. He will make far more money versus Mcgregor.

    I also feel Tony will feel Mcgregor is an easy enough win for him (not that I agree with that... Its just how I feel Tony will think).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Poirier should never have to 'defend' an interim belt, even for the UFC that's stretching credibility ..........Khabib/Poirier McGregor/Ferguson makes all the sense but they could never be on the same card for the obvious reason.......McGregor seriously needs a win to get that fight again


    Nate Diaz deserves none of the above, but money talks so the more likelihood is McGregor/Khabib ....or Diaz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Lads Khabib is fighting Dustin on the 7th of September. Fact.

    Conor will fight Mr. Diaz in August.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    Just saying, but I'd love to see Dustin unify the belt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Ferguson is the no.1 contender. Did he lose that position without a fight?

    Even White said that the lineups I suggest should be the order of things a couple of months ago. What has changed?
    How did we end up with an interim champ with the top three fighters in the division all fit?
    Tony was offered an interim title fight and turned it down.
    He was subsequently medically suspended. Based n both of those facts, he's no longer no.1 contender.

    We ended up with an interim champion because the top 3 guys weren't fit to fight.
    Khabib suspended,
    Conor suspended,
    Tony (medically) suspended,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    Mellor wrote: »
    Tony was offered an interim title fight and turned it down.
    He was subsequently medically suspended. Based n both of those facts, he's no longer no.1 contender.

    We ended up with an interim champion because the top 3 guys weren't fit to fight.
    Khabib suspended,
    Conor suspended,
    Tony (medically) suspended,

    Not disagreeing, but all this assumes UFC is meritocratic...Can anyone imagine Dana being dissatisfied if Dustin is injured? Though I wonder how much more Tony would sell over Dustin right now.

    Other question - is it as financially viable to have McGregor on middle east card as US? They could probably make more on gate in middle east?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Not disagreeing, but all this assumes UFC is meritocratic...Can anyone imagine Dana being dissatisfied if Dustin is injured? Though I wonder how much more Tony would sell over Dustin right now.

    Other question - is it as financially viable to have McGregor on middle east card as US? They could probably make more on gate in middle east?

    The money made on the gate is irrelevant due to the fact that it is dwarfed by the US PPV buys, so the only thing viable financially is to have him fight in the US. If it was down to the gate having him fight in Croke Park in front of 80k+ fans would have been done by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    VW 1 wrote: »
    The money made on the gate is irrelevant due to the fact that it is dwarfed by the US PPV buys, so the only thing viable financially is to have him fight in the US. If it was down to the gate having him fight in Croke Park in front of 80k+ fans would have been done by now.

    Yeah agreed, had heard PPV agreement changed with ESPN, not sure of details.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Yeah agreed, had heard PPV agreement changed with ESPN, not sure of details.

    Well the way it works for a customer is they've to sign up to espn plus for a month and buy a (now cheaper) ppv so the overall cost is the same but there's an extra step in subscribing.

    But the word is also that as the ufc have now cut out the middleman (box office provider) and gone straight to espn for network coverage, that the ufc are seeing more of the 60 dollars or whatever it is that a customer pays, compared to (rumoured) 50% cut from previously. Its a little ambiguous as they don't release any of the numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    They should have done the wwe model 9.99 a month or whatever and you get all ppvs


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Mod: Posts moved about the Charity boxing match to the Off Topic thread, it has nothing to do with MMA, it's very clear what goes where so post in the right place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    I understand moving the gossip/showbiz stuff, but the boxing match is him fighting so a bit weird to put it in off topic. If this is strictly 'mma' only then may as well close the thread until a fight is announced. Or change the thread name since most of the discussion seems to be general UFC rather than conor mcgregor related.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    The first post explains what goes here and what goes there, it's quite easy to follow. There's no need to close the thread or change the name, just a need for people to read and post in the right place..

    Also, there was the opportunity to discuss this in the feedback thread for those that were interested and the off topic thread set up as a result with a first post here and there explaining what goes where - it's not up for discussion or debate again here. The posts were moved, continue the talk there if you wish. Back on topic here - thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭HattrickNZ


    hi Axwell, can you provide a link to the Charity boxing match thread I cannot seem to find it. tks


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Its mentioned in the off topic discussion thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    Someone going back to 145 to take the belt back?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Someone going back to 145 to take the belt back?

    He doesn't look any smaller than usual and looks a good bit bigger than he ever was at 145.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    He doesn't look any smaller than usual and looks a good bit bigger than he ever was at 145.


    His cheeks do look sunk like they do during a weight cut though? He's still miles bigger than 145 Conor though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Lads.. him posting pictures of himself isn't MMA related..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    Lads.. him posting pictures of himself isn't MMA related..

    Not sure if srs. His shape could be related to what weight he might possibly return to mma at, same way his boxing match was related to his current skill level in one of the many mixed martial arts.



    Don't understand what can or cant be posted in this thread anymore, even after reading 1st post. The last post before the boxing match stuff was moved is "They should have done the wwe model 9.99 a month or whatever and you get all ppvs" How is that more conor mcgregor related than him boxing? Is this just a general ufc thread now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    He doesn't look any smaller than usual and looks a good bit bigger than he ever was at 145.


    So funny when you look at his instagram sometimes, he posts a photo and people reply he's looking huge etc. Then a week later, hes apparently after losing weight and moving back to 145. Its just different camera angles and lighting.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Lads.. him posting pictures of himself isn't MMA related..

    I've been alerted to this post and have taken the opportunity to look at your record in the forum. I've also had a word with Axwell. Based on all that and your continued low-level trolling I'm going to offer you an option:

    1. A 6 month ban from the forum,; or
    2. A permanent ban from this thread

    If you take option 2 please note any further trolling in the forum (low-level or otherwise) will trigger a 6 month forum ban

    Please drop me a PM with your choice. In the meantime do not post in this thread again

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    A week without any posts in here? That's pretty telling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    A week without any posts in here? That's pretty telling

    Fear not, we're busy stitching bunting and ironing the champ champs's clothes for him.

    Tell Jose we're coming...again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    Amazing how quickly you become irrelevant when not active. Love to see him booked against Tony more than anyone I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,938 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Amazing how quickly you become irrelevant when not active. Love to see him booked against Tony more than anyone I think.
    Thing is Tony deserves a title fight. Khabib is the Champion and they had this stupid interim belt just to make a mess of everything.
    So right now Conor is third in line, at best, for a title shot.
    I think he needs an easier fight to build confidence before he goes up against a serious contender again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Thing is Tony deserves a title fight. Khabib is the Champion and they had this stupid interim belt just to make a mess of everything.
    So right now Conor is third in line, at best, for a title shot.
    I think he needs an easier fight to build confidence before he goes up against a serious contender again.

    Tony through his own unfortunate issues put himself down the pecking order, I'm dying to see that fight though so hopefully we do soon. Dustin deserves the shot though on merit, in the last year and a half he beat two former champs, an absolute warrior in Justin & the current FW champ. He's earned his tittle shot without a doubt ahead of both McGregor & Tony. The most logical fight is Ferguson v McGregor then winner gets the shot, but the ufc is never as straightforward as that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Tony turned down the interim fight. And then had himself ruled out on medical grounds. It's unfortunate as I want to see it too. But don't see any other way at this point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 399 ✭✭BigMo1


    A fight against Tony or Cowboy would be great, anything to change the tune away from promotion of that f*cking whiskey.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭robwen


    Did he give any response to Cowboy calling him out for a July fight after he bet Ragin Al over the weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,397 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Prob be Tony vs Cerrone to see who is next for a title shot


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    xtal191 wrote: »
    Prob be Tony vs Cerrone to see who is next for a title shot

    Or an interim, interim belt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Wasn't Dana spose to be meeting him 'next week's for the last 2 months? Cowboy fight would be cracking.

    https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1125857349460156416?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    If it's on the Mac Life does that mean that Conor might be arsed meeting him this time?
    Or just trying to drum up clicks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    I think Cerrone would be a good litmus test for him at this juncture. If he can pull it off, have a quick turnaround and go again...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    I think Cerrone would be a good litmus test for him at this juncture. If he can pull it off, have a quick turnaround and go again...

    Agree it would be a good litmus test but I doubt think a quick turnaround would be likely after a Cerrone fight. Id say if hes getting by Cerrrone they will both be suitably busted up ruling out a quick turnaround.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Doubt he'd be busted up. Conor Stops Cowboy inside a round. He'll wilt under the pressure. He doesn't fight well going backwards.

    It won't be a quick turnaround because he doesn't do them anymore. We are at the one fight a year stage of his career. I don't think damage or lack thereof has much to do with it anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    This current Cowboy will not wilt and theres not a chance Conor will fight him. How he can suddenly take some of those punches from Al like nothing even landed is anyones guess but its not the same Cowboy from a few fights ago. He's probably been taking his Vitamin C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    People really writing off Cerrone that easily?

    I dunno, I think there are a lot of questions about where Conor is at, mentally more than anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Ush1 wrote: »
    People really writing off Cerrone that easily?

    I dunno, I think there are a lot of questions about where Conor is at, mentally more than anything.

    People are silly to write off Cerrone here. The guy is one of the most dangerous fighter sin the world on his night. On one of these nights he could easily beat Conor.

    The same way the opposite is true. It's a great match up in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Kirby wrote: »
    Doubt he'd be busted up. Conor Stops Cowboy inside a round. He'll wilt under the pressure. He doesn't fight well going backwards.

    It won't be a quick turnaround because he doesn't do them anymore. We are at the one fight a year stage of his career. I don't think damage or lack thereof has much to do with it anymore.

    Maybe the Conor that actually trained would win, but we're now in the era of Booze, Coke and Whores and spends more time in Court than in the gym Conor. This Conor will lose badly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    I've seen an article about cerrone v Ferguson for 238 so that McGregor out of the question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    I've seen an article about cerrone v Ferguson for 238 so that McGregor out of the question

    Yeah cause ufc leaking info about a different fight to persuade someone to sign a contract is something they never done before. If its not signed it doesn't mean anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    If it's not signed, it's not guaranteed. But I would say it doesn't mean anything. More often than not these fights go ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭crybaby


    Ush1 wrote: »
    People really writing off Cerrone that easily?

    I dunno, I think there are a lot of questions about where Conor is at, mentally more than anything.

    I think if you see that fight for July or August right now, Conor would probably lose it and that is insane because a few years ago Conor would have dismantled someone like Cowboy even in his current run. I have no idea why Conor doesn't just formally announce his retirement.


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