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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Putting down a decking is not difficult, but do not skimp on the prep work. The frame underneath needs to be rock-solid and level. Measure everything three times over. If you think you need 30 boards, buy 40. If you're putting it over grass or soil, get weed fabric.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Stheno wrote: »
    My OH would like decking. Not going to happen.

    He has this mad idea that you just throw it on top of the grass and hey presto :rolleyes:

    That said the physical labour would be good for him. As a result of eating himself through this pandemic he's put on a stone in weight and is now going on a diet and walking every day

    Oh he has to do it on his own? F*ck that!

    I'm intending to redo my paths out the back with the same stone as my patio. Part of me relishing the bit of work and that it will be grand when it's done. But there's a fair bit of work involved which I know I'll get a pain in my hole with.

    If there's already grass in place, he's going to need to dig that all out and make sure it's level before even looking at bringing in hardcore/sand. I hope he has easy access to the patio area to get all material/spoil in and out. That's the single biggest task if it needs to be moved from out front (and even worse if through the house).


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Buer wrote: »
    Oh he has to do it on his own? F*ck that!

    I'm intending to redo my paths out the back with the same stone as my patio. Part of me relishing the bit of work and that it will be grand when it's done. But there's a fair bit of work involved which I know I'll get a pain in my hole with.

    If there's already grass in place, he's going to need to dig that all out and make sure it's level before even looking at bringing in hardcore/sand. I hope he has easy access to the patio area to get all material/spoil in and out. That's the single biggest task if it needs to be moved from out front (and even worse if through the house).

    No hes not going to do anything apart from observe from afar.

    I'm getting quotes from a couple of gardeners.

    The back garden is currently weedy grass, so need to weed killer it first, then level it off after a couple of weeks, then dig out the patio area, level that off, lay substrate ( think that's what its called), then weed fabric, sand and finally patio.

    I'd feel better getting someone who knows what they are doing to do it tbh, otherwise I'd also have to dig a grave for the OH :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    I know enough about building/handyman work to know what I can and can't do. Building decks, walls, steps or fences are all jobs I definitely can't do. I can be the helper/labourer on those jobs but someone else needs to be in charge. Laying down paving for paths and patios, or building fire pits, no problem. Just don't put me in charge of mixing the cement.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I can't get my head around the fact that New Zealand to Australia is further than Ireland to Egypt.

    The idea of a pub with social distancing is baffling. The only thing a pub has going for it over drinking at home is the social aspect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    I can't get my head around the fact that New Zealand to Australia is further than Ireland to Egypt.

    The idea of a pub with social distancing is baffling. The only thing a pub has going for it over drinking at home is the social aspect.
    I'm still trying to work out how those two things are related. :pac:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I'm still trying to work out how those two things are related. :pac:

    Well, Ireland and North Africa are distant geographically but also socially whereas Aus and NZ are more distant geographically but less so socially.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    I don't think anyone could realistically take what she said as an intentional criticism of Ireland's approach.

    The problem is she should appreciate there are a lot of unrealistic people around, in her country as well I'm sure. And any comment like this is just giving them fuel to carry on like idiots. Plenty of people talking about New Zealand's infection rate as if they aren't an island thousands of kilometers away from any real sources of cases (unlike Ireland, where we only just discovered 90% of school children seem to ski in Italy every March) It'd be just as bad if Varadkar criticised New Zealand or Australia's initial approach and gave ammunition to the whatever New Zealand's equivalent of Gemma O'Doherty is (the main lad from Hunt for the Wilderpeople probably).

    I would never apologise for Ardern saying something stupid but I definitely think this is a case of finding a country that has a similar population size, one that your average kiwi can relate to and that has worse numbers than NZ and use that to show how great her government is doing. Ignore all other contributing factors.

    Theyve done a great job containingthe virus but I'd be more interested in hearing what her government is going to do to help the thousands of small businesses get back on their feet and how the economy is going to recover from the billions in lost tourism revenue.

    As for the NZ version of Gemma O'Doherty, the would be the Bishop Brian Tamaki (self ordained). He may have declared himself the Supreme Leader and Saviour at this point. Him and his wife are NZ's highest profile whackjobs.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    A Gemma loon got into the daily briefing, it was a bit mental


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    I can't get my head around the fact that New Zealand to Australia is further than Ireland to Egypt.

    That's not entirely true. If you take from the centre of each country it is but Auckland to Sydney is a bit over half the distance of Dublin to Cairo. However it is further than Dublin to Algiers so I'll use that in future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Spent a solid two days trying to find a decent cordless hair clippers under a hundred quid in either Ireland or the UK and managed to finally get one.

    Have hair clippers become the new facemasks/hand sanitiser?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Spent a solid two days trying to find a decent cordless hair clippers under a hundred quid in either Ireland or the UK and managed to finally get one.

    Have hair clippers become the new facemasks/hand sanitiser?

    Why yes!

    Us preppers saw into the future and got one as a Christmas present.

    I did actually get one for Christmas I got a number 2 all over in December and decided I wasn't paying a hairdresser for that

    Mine is not cordless though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Stheno wrote: »
    Why yes!

    Us preppers saw into the future and got one as a Christmas present.

    I did actually get one for Christmas I got a number 2 all over in December and decided I wasn't paying a hairdresser for that

    Mine is not cordless though

    I picked up a cheap Remington corded one before this all kicked off but was getting fed up with the cord considering between the 3 of us and my beard I've been using it at least once a week. Unfortunately for me the other two haven't a breeze on how to blend so I've just been buzzing myself with a 2 the entire time as well.

    Could be worse, there was an article going around today from the hairdresser group saying they had reports of hairdressers being offered up to 200 quid to do house calls.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Stheno wrote: »
    Why yes!

    Us preppers saw into the future and got one as a Christmas present.

    I did actually get one for Christmas I got a number 2 all over in December and decided I wasn't paying a hairdresser for that

    Mine is not cordless though

    I prefer the corded ones.

    Steady continuous full power.

    Nothing as bad as trying to shave with a falling shaver


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭b.gud


    My wife is a hairdresser so I've had 2 haircuts since lockdown started. I know you all hate me but I don't really care :pac:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jesus the absolute headcase at today's briefing.

    I have huge admiration for the CMO's patience. He refused to allow her to get away with her stupidity or have the last word, he repeated the best practice guidelines in such a clear way for such an aggravated encounter.

    You would love to charge the 'journalist' with a public order offence over that, unhinged weapon.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Jesus the absolute headcase at today's briefing.

    I have huge admiration for the CMO's patience. He refused to allow her to get away with her stupidity or have the last word, he repeated the best practice guidelines in such a clear way for such an aggravated encounter.

    You would love to charge the 'journalist' with a public order offence over that, unhinged weapon.

    She was a bit cracked alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Stheno wrote: »
    A Gemma loon got into the daily briefing, it was a bit mental
    unfortunately I've had a few dealings with the loon in question. Only blessing was it wasnt one of her other siblings....
    Jesus the absolute headcase at today's briefing.

    I have huge admiration for the CMO's patience. He refused to allow her to get away with her stupidity or have the last word, he repeated the best practice guidelines in such a clear way for such an aggravated encounter.

    You would love to charge the 'journalist' with a public order offence over that, unhinged weapon.
    One of the burkes from Castlebar. Such nice nice people.
    Jemima actually did study journalism in nuig. But not working for any paper afaik


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    unfortunately I've had a few dealings with the loon in question. Only blessing was it wasnt one of her other siblings....

    One of the burkes from Castlebar. Such nice nice people.
    Jemima actually did study journalism in nuig. But not working for any paper afaik

    Are they the Galway/ayo equivalent of the mutants in Deliverance?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    I see Western People have come out and condemned what she did and tried to distance themselves as much as possible. Some of the replies on Twitter to it are mental. It's actually scary to see some of the shíte, it's almost like direct copy and pastes of some of the MAGA-style ****e you'd see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Oh lord she was awful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Fair play to the sign language interpreter in the background keeping up with that madness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Heard about it but haven't seen it, is it online? How did she even get in, she has no affiliation to any paper and quoted a non-existent one when she gave her name apparently...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    That one was cutting a wrestling promo, not asking a question.

    How on earth did she get in?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Heard about it but haven't seen it, is it online? How did she even get in, she has no affiliation to any paper and quoted a non-existent one when she gave her name apparently...

    Rte player I think has it starts about 40 minutes in


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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Heard about it but haven't seen it, is it online? How did she even get in, she has no affiliation to any paper and quoted a non-existent one when she gave her name apparently...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLywqME8FY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Johnson saying they’re going to end the lockdown from Monday when they haven’t seen a reduction in cases yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Johnson saying they’re going to end the lockdown from Monday when they haven’t seen a reduction in cases yet?

    We'll see what exactly they lift, I've seen sunbathing and picnicing mentioned and to be honest living beside a big park I can tell you compliance with them has been absolutely abysmal anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Bit concerned by Holohan saying infection rates in the community are still too high. I've no doubt he's right, but how do we get out if this hole?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Johnson saying they’re going to end the lockdown from Monday when they haven’t seen a reduction in cases yet?

    Had a look at the morning papers yet?

    It's borderline negligent. They are celebrating the end of the lockdown on Monday and a lot of people are going to misinterpret it as a return to normal.

    It saves them from reporting on the record dead and keeps accountability away from the government but it just strikes me as incredibly irresponsible. I really hope they are basing decisions on sound, good quality advice but I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking at the rest of Europe starting to open up and don't want more bad headlines.

    You'd have to feel very sympathetic to the voters in England who didn't vote for this Government and didn't vote for Brexit and now have to watch this horror show with a further crash to happen in a few months.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Clegg wrote: »
    Bit concerned by Holohan saying infection rates in the community are still too high. I've no doubt he's right, but how do we get out if this hole?

    A stricter lockdown.

    Like, we never really had a lockdown, not in the sense of Spain, France or Italy. There was essentially zero enforcement and thus even the pretty relaxed rules were widely flouted. Transmission was always going to continue.

    Maybe that's not a bad thing either, who knows. But either way, there's no political will to tighten restrictions and the public won't tolerate even the current ones for much longer.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    It's a way they can hide the brexit economic hit amidst the covid depression


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Clegg wrote: »
    Bit concerned by Holohan saying infection rates in the community are still too high. I've no doubt he's right, but how do we get out if this hole?

    Infection rates are dropping and he's erring on the side of caution for good reason. If you take the average at 3 day intervals for new cases, the average for the 3 days up to and including yesterday was 247. The previous 3 days (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) was 298. Previous to that was 321.

    We're seeing a consistent decline in new cases. It's higher than we want but any cases is higher than we want. Things are moving steadily in the right direction.


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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    It's a way they can hide the brexit economic hit amidst the covid depression

    They can't. Brexit is only going to be a no-deal now, there will be no trade agreement and a no deal Brexit will utterly crush them. It would be another massive, massive hit to their economy. There would be no divorcing the scale of damage the UK and Ireland would suffer in comparison to other EU states and the splash damage to Ireland could well scupper any good will they have on the international stage.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Screenshot-4.jpg

    only in an alternate universe should you see these two front page headlines side by side !!!!


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    They can't. Brexit is only going to be a no-deal now, there will be no trade agreement and a no deal Brexit will utterly crush them. It would be another massive, massive hit to their economy. There would be no divorcing the scale of damage the UK and Ireland would suffer in comparison to other EU states and the splash damage to Ireland could well scupper any good will they have on the international stage.

    its what they are going to try to do....
    when the dust settles on all this and UK has a longer recession than the rest of europe they will point to covid as the main reason, not the brexit clusterfcuk.

    im not saying it will work, but its the "out" that they will cling to.

    and we'll get fcuked in the cross fire


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    Had a look at the morning papers yet?

    It's borderline negligent. They are celebrating the end of the lockdown on Monday and a lot of people are going to misinterpret it as a return to normal.

    It saves them from reporting on the record dead and keeps accountability away from the government but it just strikes me as incredibly irresponsible. I really hope they are basing decisions on sound, good quality advice but I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking at the rest of Europe starting to open up and don't want more bad headlines.

    You'd have to feel very sympathetic to the voters in England who didn't vote for this Government and didn't vote for Brexit and now have to watch this horror show with a further crash to happen in a few months.
    I'm angered by the fact that the ****ers are going to drag us down with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,458 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Back to gardening for a sec...

    I'm in the process of "cleaning" my back garden.
    New build, moved in last summer.
    "garden" is just over 80 square metres, and had never received any attention before now other than the builders jcb.

    Made the decision to go at it with a pick, shovel and rake.
    As something to focus on during quarantine, and a great way to exercise.

    I'm about 60% of the way there. Very happy with the clean, level result so far, and the soil quality is v good as a consequence of me raking and re-raking to filter out the ****e.
    I've estimated that it will be 36 hours of labour in total. (doing it in 3 hour stints to try to minimise the chance of back injuries!)

    So here's my question...
    I'm doing all of this so that I can get roll out grass to lay on top. (I'll roll it out myself)

    I know that you need to water the bejaysus out of it once it's laid for a few days, but what about beforehand?
    Is a roller essential before or after or both? Should the soil be scuffed up before laying or flattened?

    Anyone done similar? I've only got one quote so far which was about €6 per square metre...that about right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    If you have two hours to kill, watch this back.



    The sport of hurling at its peak.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Buer wrote: »
    Infection rates are dropping and he's erring on the side of caution for good reason. If you take the average at 3 day intervals for new cases, the average for the 3 days up to and including yesterday was 247. The previous 3 days (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) was 298. Previous to that was 321.

    We're seeing a consistent decline in new cases. It's higher than we want but any cases is higher than we want. Things are moving steadily in the right direction.

    It was interesting last night that they said the majority of the new cases are amongst younger people

    I wonder do they think it wont hit them? Or is there a socio economic element to it? E.g. those who cant work from home?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Panda Killa


    1/3 of people arriving into Ireland at Dublin airport aren't telling the authorities where they will be staying...
    It's then impossible to check on whether or not they are self-isolating


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    kuang1 wrote: »
    Back to gardening for a sec...

    I'm in the process of "cleaning" my back garden.
    New build, moved in last summer.
    "garden" is just over 80 square metres, and had never received any attention before now other than the builders jcb.

    Made the decision to go at it with a pick, shovel and rake.
    As something to focus on during quarantine, and a great way to exercise.

    I'm about 60% of the way there. Very happy with the clean, level result so far, and the soil quality is v good as a consequence of me raking and re-raking to filter out the ****e.
    I've estimated that it will be 36 hours of labour in total. (doing it in 3 hour stints to try to minimise the chance of back injuries!)

    So here's my question...
    I'm doing all of this so that I can get roll out grass to lay on top. (I'll roll it out myself)

    I know that you need to water the bejaysus out of it once it's laid for a few days, but what about beforehand?
    Is a roller essential before or after or both? Should the soil be scuffed up before laying or flattened?

    Anyone done similar? I've only got one quote so far which was about €6 per square metre...that about right?

    If it was me I'd get a few bags of topsoil and I'd seed the lawn for a few weeks instead of putting down the rolls of grass. You need to re-seed and water regularly but in my experience you get a better lawn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    1/3 of people arriving into Ireland at Dublin airport aren't telling the authorities where they will be staying...
    It's then impossible to check on whether or not they are self-isolating

    I'm not surprised to be honest, the form isn't underpinned by any legislation and people aren't required to fill it out.

    We've had a fairly soft approach to our borders in general.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    1/3 of people arriving into Ireland at Dublin airport aren't telling the authorities where they will be staying...
    It's then impossible to check on whether or not they are self-isolating

    Is there any checking of whether people are self-isolating being done anyway? It is not exactly an easy thing to track one way or another anyway.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I'm not surprised to be honest, the form isn't underpinned by any legislation and people aren't required to fill it out.

    We've had a fairly soft approach to our borders in general.

    Immigration is not required to let them in either, so I don't think it would need to be underpinned by any specific legislation.

    Given we aren't going to be eradicating it a la New Zealand, I'm not sure the minimal number of travellers coming into the state are making much of a difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭DGRulz


    Stheno wrote: »
    It was interesting last night that they said the majority of the new cases are amongst younger people

    I wonder do they think it wont hit them? Or is there a socio economic element to it? E.g. those who cant work from home?

    Was out walking the dog last night. On my way back I was coming round a corner and 3 lads about my age came towards me walking 3 abreast, made no effort to make any space for me and the dog on the path. Just before that I had met a group of about 5 little girls under 10 riding their bikes on the road. There's a definite air of complacency in the general public. People don't like being inconvenienced for a prolonged period of time.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,090 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    kuang1 wrote: »
    Back to gardening for a sec...

    I'm in the process of "cleaning" my back garden.
    New build, moved in last summer.
    "garden" is just over 80 square metres, and had never received any attention before now other than the builders jcb.

    Made the decision to go at it with a pick, shovel and rake.
    As something to focus on during quarantine, and a great way to exercise.

    I'm about 60% of the way there. Very happy with the clean, level result so far, and the soil quality is v good as a consequence of me raking and re-raking to filter out the ****e.
    I've estimated that it will be 36 hours of labour in total. (doing it in 3 hour stints to try to minimise the chance of back injuries!)

    So here's my question...
    I'm doing all of this so that I can get roll out grass to lay on top. (I'll roll it out myself)

    I know that you need to water the bejaysus out of it once it's laid for a few days, but what about beforehand?
    Is a roller essential before or after or both? Should the soil be scuffed up before laying or flattened?

    Anyone done similar? I've only got one quote so far which was about €6 per square metre...that about right?
    i laid mine on scuffed, flat soil. Not rolled flat, but flat enough that all of the rolled turf was in contact with ground that wasn't going to sink much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,458 ✭✭✭kuang1


    If it was me I'd get a few bags of topsoil and I'd seed the lawn for a few weeks instead of putting down the rolls of grass. You need to re-seed and water regularly but in my experience you get a better lawn.

    I thought about that first, but when I priced it up, the roll out option was less than half the cost, and a quicker route to the finish line to boot.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,090 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    If you seed it now you won't have a usable lawn for months, versus about 3/4 weeks with the rolls.

    My own lawn is mostly seeded, I just have a few bits of rolled turf where I used up some leftovers from the neighbour to cover some parts that I was really struggling to get to grow.

    I've reseeded parts about 3 times and it's still not as thick as I want.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    A decent drop in the number of new cases today, hopefully that continues.


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