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[Deleted User]

What they've done with the leaving cert is a bit mad. I don't know what the solution is but I don't think this is it. I failed my mock and got around 200 points only to turn it around and get around 450. I wonder what predicted result I'd get.

Squidgy Black

irishbucsfan wrote: »

The US travel restrictions don't apply to US citizens, unless there's been some change in that

No but if she holds dual citizenship I'm not sure what way it'd be handled other than if she says it's a repatriation, because there's a non-essential travel ban on Irish citizens too. Best bet would be to try and get a hold of the US embassy and ask for their advice.

irishbucsfan

Panda Killa wrote: »

900 in 5 days isn't miniscule tbf..it seems the numbers at Dublin Port are quite high also...take other ports and airports...it's quite likely 2000 people in that timeframe have not complied with instructions.....don't forget....this is a country that lost its shít when 189 Bulgarians arrived

Well over half a million people a week go through Dublin airport normally. 900 people is absolutely miniscule. No one is travelling through there who doesn't absolutely have to, there's all sorts of reasons they'll be rushing through airports and not stopping to fill out optional forms. Not even considering the fact just being in an airport currently is fairly terrifying.

irishbucsfan

Squidgy Black wrote: »

There's a non-essential travel ban, so unless it's essential travel you can't fly. In saying that, there's still regular flights scheduled for repatriations and stuff like that, so I'm not entirely sure what way it'd work in terms of them deeming a family death a reason for travel, especially if she's been living here a while.

The US travel restrictions don't apply to US citizens, unless there's been some change in that

Panda Killa

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Those numbers are absolutely miniscule.

Not surprising people aren't responding to phone calls either, when you think about who'd be travelling at a time like this.

It's not a plausible to put anything like this in place with no planning and expect it to be successful outside of people who will voluntarily go out of their way to adhere to it. I'd say we could see the proportion of adherents go up as numbers increase and the proportion of people travelling in emergency situations decreases

900 in 5 days isn't miniscule tbf..it seems the numbers at Dublin Port are quite high also...take other ports and airports...it's quite likely 2000 people in that timeframe have not complied with instructions.....don't forget....this is a country that lost its shít when 189 Bulgarians arrived

Squidgy Black

errlloyd wrote: »

Does anyone know anything about actually traveling abroad?

My OH lost her grandmother this week to Covid, they were quite close. She's from the states and has no family here at all. There won't be a funeral or anything, but if it was possible she would probably go home to be with family. (Instead of here, where she knows basically no one except me).

There's a non-essential travel ban, so unless it's essential travel you can't fly. In saying that, there's still regular flights scheduled for repatriations and stuff like that, so I'm not entirely sure what way it'd work in terms of them deeming a family death a reason for travel, especially if she's been living here a while.

irishbucsfan

errlloyd wrote: »

Does anyone know anything about actually traveling abroad?

My OH lost her grandmother this week to Covid, they were quite close. She's from the states and has no family here at all. There won't be a funeral or anything, but if it was possible she would probably go home to be with family. (Instead of here, where she knows basically no one except me).

It completely depends on where you're talking about really, I think. If you can get a flight at an affordable price you can generally travel but would be expected to isolate in a lot of locations (just like Ireland). My OH was in a similar position.

If its a more common destination then your OH might be in luck. I don't know about the US's travel restrictions, I think citizens can return and are expected to isolate (including from her family I think unfortunately). Obviously she'd have to worry about getting back unless she's willing to accept an extended trip away until prices/availability suits for a return, and then take the two weeks of isolation in Ireland (which is what I effectively had to do myself, albeit I left early enough in March)

Dave_The_Sheep

Did my shopping for the next ten days or so there earlier. People are definitely far more lax and there's a lot more out and about in groups than there were this time last week.

irishbucsfan

Panda Killa wrote: »

671 didn't fill the forms at all
& 231 of those who did fill it out didn't respond to phone calls.
This is Dublin airport only for this week

Those numbers are absolutely miniscule.

Not surprising people aren't responding to phone calls either, when you think about who'd be travelling at a time like this.

It's not a plausible to put anything like this in place with no planning and expect it to be successful outside of people who will voluntarily go out of their way to adhere to it. I'd say we could see the proportion of adherents go up as numbers increase and the proportion of people travelling in emergency situations decreases

errlloyd

Does anyone know anything about actually traveling abroad?

My OH lost her grandmother this week to Covid, they were quite close. She's from the states and has no family here at all. There won't be a funeral or anything, but if it was possible she would probably go home to be with family. (Instead of here, where she knows basically no one except me).

Panda Killa

irishbucsfan wrote: »

How many people are arriving into Ireland?

Like it’s a third, but that has only just started and the people travelling currently are doing so in very extreme circumstances. Purely even getting a flight to Ireland that won’t cost an absolute fortune is difficult, if it wasn’t I’d have done it myself already

671 didn't fill the forms at all
& 231 of those who did fill it out didn't respond to phone calls.
This is Dublin airport only for this week

Neil3030

irishbucsfan wrote: »

How many people are arriving into Ireland?

Like it’s a third, but that has only just started and the people travelling currently are doing so in very extreme circumstances. Purely even getting a flight to Ireland that won’t cost an absolute fortune is difficult, if it wasn’t I’d have done it myself already

And are authorities even checking on those who do disclose the address/phone number they'll be staying? I'd be highly skeptical they can enforce it any meaningful way. It puts the idea in people's heads that they need to do self-isolate, which is about as much as you can hope. Most people will, a few idiots won't. Not sure how the cops having their phone number will change that.

gp1990

Hospital admissions with Covid-19 have reduced from 40 a day or more on average last week to 20 or fewer this week.

The average number of people in intensive care units has fallen from a peak of 140, to 100 last week, to 76 as of this morning.

The average number of people admitted to intensive care units was in the region of 4 to 6 people a day every day up to seven days ago. But in the last week it has been 2 each day.

there is a greater than 90% confidence that the reproduction rate averaged across the population is between 0.5 and 0.6.

Yes, yes I know any cases are still too many, but surely these figures can only be deemed (relatively) positive on the whole?

irishbucsfan

Panda Killa wrote: »

1/3 of people arriving into Ireland at Dublin airport aren't telling the authorities where they will be staying...
It's then impossible to check on whether or not they are self-isolating

How many people are arriving into Ireland?

Like it’s a third, but that has only just started and the people travelling currently are doing so in very extreme circumstances. Purely even getting a flight to Ireland that won’t cost an absolute fortune is difficult, if it wasn’t I’d have done it myself already

aloooof

thomond2006 wrote: »

A decent drop in the number of new cases today, hopefully that continues.

Encouraging figure today, lowest we've had since 22nd March. The 3-day average is down over 100 since as recently as Monday.

thomond2006

A decent drop in the number of new cases today, hopefully that continues.

awec

If you seed it now you won't have a usable lawn for months, versus about 3/4 weeks with the rolls.

My own lawn is mostly seeded, I just have a few bits of rolled turf where I used up some leftovers from the neighbour to cover some parts that I was really struggling to get to grow.

I've reseeded parts about 3 times and it's still not as thick as I want.

kuang1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If it was me I'd get a few bags of topsoil and I'd seed the lawn for a few weeks instead of putting down the rolls of grass. You need to re-seed and water regularly but in my experience you get a better lawn.

I thought about that first, but when I priced it up, the roll out option was less than half the cost, and a quicker route to the finish line to boot.

awec

kuang1 wrote: »

Back to gardening for a sec...

I'm in the process of "cleaning" my back garden.
New build, moved in last summer.
"garden" is just over 80 square metres, and had never received any attention before now other than the builders jcb.

Made the decision to go at it with a pick, shovel and rake.
As something to focus on during quarantine, and a great way to exercise.

I'm about 60% of the way there. Very happy with the clean, level result so far, and the soil quality is v good as a consequence of me raking and re-raking to filter out the ****e.
I've estimated that it will be 36 hours of labour in total. (doing it in 3 hour stints to try to minimise the chance of back injuries!)

So here's my question...
I'm doing all of this so that I can get roll out grass to lay on top. (I'll roll it out myself)

I know that you need to water the bejaysus out of it once it's laid for a few days, but what about beforehand?
Is a roller essential before or after or both? Should the soil be scuffed up before laying or flattened?

Anyone done similar? I've only got one quote so far which was about €6 per square metre...that about right?

i laid mine on scuffed, flat soil. Not rolled flat, but flat enough that all of the rolled turf was in contact with ground that wasn't going to sink much.

DGRulz

Stheno wrote: »

It was interesting last night that they said the majority of the new cases are amongst younger people

I wonder do they think it wont hit them? Or is there a socio economic element to it? E.g. those who cant work from home?

Was out walking the dog last night. On my way back I was coming round a corner and 3 lads about my age came towards me walking 3 abreast, made no effort to make any space for me and the dog on the path. Just before that I had met a group of about 5 little girls under 10 riding their bikes on the road. There's a definite air of complacency in the general public. People don't like being inconvenienced for a prolonged period of time.

Podge_irl

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I'm not surprised to be honest, the form isn't underpinned by any legislation and people aren't required to fill it out.

We've had a fairly soft approach to our borders in general.

Immigration is not required to let them in either, so I don't think it would need to be underpinned by any specific legislation.

Given we aren't going to be eradicating it a la New Zealand, I'm not sure the minimal number of travellers coming into the state are making much of a difference.

Podge_irl

Panda Killa wrote: »

1/3 of people arriving into Ireland at Dublin airport aren't telling the authorities where they will be staying...
It's then impossible to check on whether or not they are self-isolating

Is there any checking of whether people are self-isolating being done anyway? It is not exactly an easy thing to track one way or another anyway.

Squidgy Black

Panda Killa wrote: »

1/3 of people arriving into Ireland at Dublin airport aren't telling the authorities where they will be staying...
It's then impossible to check on whether or not they are self-isolating

I'm not surprised to be honest, the form isn't underpinned by any legislation and people aren't required to fill it out.

We've had a fairly soft approach to our borders in general.

[Deleted User]

kuang1 wrote: »

Back to gardening for a sec...

I'm in the process of "cleaning" my back garden.
New build, moved in last summer.
"garden" is just over 80 square metres, and had never received any attention before now other than the builders jcb.

Made the decision to go at it with a pick, shovel and rake.
As something to focus on during quarantine, and a great way to exercise.

I'm about 60% of the way there. Very happy with the clean, level result so far, and the soil quality is v good as a consequence of me raking and re-raking to filter out the ****e.
I've estimated that it will be 36 hours of labour in total. (doing it in 3 hour stints to try to minimise the chance of back injuries!)

So here's my question...
I'm doing all of this so that I can get roll out grass to lay on top. (I'll roll it out myself)

I know that you need to water the bejaysus out of it once it's laid for a few days, but what about beforehand?
Is a roller essential before or after or both? Should the soil be scuffed up before laying or flattened?

Anyone done similar? I've only got one quote so far which was about €6 per square metre...that about right?

If it was me I'd get a few bags of topsoil and I'd seed the lawn for a few weeks instead of putting down the rolls of grass. You need to re-seed and water regularly but in my experience you get a better lawn.

Panda Killa

1/3 of people arriving into Ireland at Dublin airport aren't telling the authorities where they will be staying...
It's then impossible to check on whether or not they are self-isolating

Stheno

Buer wrote: »

Infection rates are dropping and he's erring on the side of caution for good reason. If you take the average at 3 day intervals for new cases, the average for the 3 days up to and including yesterday was 247. The previous 3 days (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) was 298. Previous to that was 321.

We're seeing a consistent decline in new cases. It's higher than we want but any cases is higher than we want. Things are moving steadily in the right direction.

It was interesting last night that they said the majority of the new cases are amongst younger people

I wonder do they think it wont hit them? Or is there a socio economic element to it? E.g. those who cant work from home?

thomond2006

If you have two hours to kill, watch this back.

The sport of hurling at its peak.

kuang1

Back to gardening for a sec...

I'm in the process of "cleaning" my back garden.
New build, moved in last summer.
"garden" is just over 80 square metres, and had never received any attention before now other than the builders jcb.

Made the decision to go at it with a pick, shovel and rake.
As something to focus on during quarantine, and a great way to exercise.

I'm about 60% of the way there. Very happy with the clean, level result so far, and the soil quality is v good as a consequence of me raking and re-raking to filter out the ****e.
I've estimated that it will be 36 hours of labour in total. (doing it in 3 hour stints to try to minimise the chance of back injuries!)

So here's my question...
I'm doing all of this so that I can get roll out grass to lay on top. (I'll roll it out myself)

I know that you need to water the bejaysus out of it once it's laid for a few days, but what about beforehand?
Is a roller essential before or after or both? Should the soil be scuffed up before laying or flattened?

Anyone done similar? I've only got one quote so far which was about €6 per square metre...that about right?

dregin

Deleted User wrote: »

Had a look at the morning papers yet?

It's borderline negligent. They are celebrating the end of the lockdown on Monday and a lot of people are going to misinterpret it as a return to normal.

It saves them from reporting on the record dead and keeps accountability away from the government but it just strikes me as incredibly irresponsible. I really hope they are basing decisions on sound, good quality advice but I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking at the rest of Europe starting to open up and don't want more bad headlines.

You'd have to feel very sympathetic to the voters in England who didn't vote for this Government and didn't vote for Brexit and now have to watch this horror show with a further crash to happen in a few months.

I'm angered by the fact that the ****ers are going to drag us down with them.

sydthebeat

Deleted User wrote: »

They can't. Brexit is only going to be a no-deal now, there will be no trade agreement and a no deal Brexit will utterly crush them. It would be another massive, massive hit to their economy. There would be no divorcing the scale of damage the UK and Ireland would suffer in comparison to other EU states and the splash damage to Ireland could well scupper any good will they have on the international stage.

its what they are going to try to do....
when the dust settles on all this and UK has a longer recession than the rest of europe they will point to covid as the main reason, not the brexit clusterfcuk.

im not saying it will work, but its the "out" that they will cling to.

and we'll get fcuked in the cross fire