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Insomnia?/Tips for good sleep

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  • #202
    Fathom
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    Yo Kelly. Whatever works. We are on COVID stay-at-home orders. Unless essential. So odd hours work here too. Me essential? My work is in grey area. So I go in when boss calls. Makes my hours flexible.


  • #203
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    Fathom wrote: »
    Yo Kelly. Whatever works. We are on COVID stay-at-home orders. Unless essential. So odd hours work here too. Me essential? My work is in grey area. So I go in when boss calls. Makes my hours flexible.
    I am sleeping good again. I think the night awake on the couch reset my sleep pattern. I have the blue light blocker too on the computer and phone


  • #204
    begbysback
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    Bend both hands down as far as they go, very relaxing effect, have even noticed my dog doing it in his bed.


  • #205
    olestoepoke
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    Went to my doc and he suggested I tried Melatonin. Wow what a difference, knocks me out and not one side effect, no grogginess the next day. I know I'm only supposed to take them for a few weeks but they've Been fantastic.


  • #206
    wally1990
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Went to my doc and he suggested I tried Melatonin. Wow what a difference, knocks me out and not one side effect, no grogginess the next day. I know I'm only supposed to take them for a few weeks but they've Been fantastic.

    Can you simply buy it over the counter?


  • #207
    el diablo
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    wally1990 wrote: »
    Can you simply buy it over the counter?

    Prescription only afaik. Maybe you can purchase online.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • #208
    Snake Plisken
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    el diablo wrote: »
    Prescription only afaik. Maybe you can purchase online.

    Yes prescription only if we ever get back to Spain you can buy it over the counter there without prescription


  • #209
    Real Donald Trump
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    Have this problem myself. Anyone here try CBD oil ? thinking about using it....


  • #210
    el diablo
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    Real Donald Trump wrote: »
    Have this problem myself. Anyone here try CBD oil ? thinking about using it....

    Tried CBD but it did absolutely nothing for me.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



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  • #211
    [Deleted User]
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    I find 5htp quite good..


  • #212
    olestoepoke
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    wally1990 wrote: »
    Can you simply buy it over the counter?

    No not in iireland im afraid. Otc in the USA and a few other countries but not here.


  • #213
    olestoepoke
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    Word of warning I've heard that melatonin works wonders for some and does nothing for others. Been absolutely brilliant for me


  • #214
    meggiemegmeg
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    I bought melatonin (abroad) but it didn’t help at all. I use valerian-from a herbalist. I find it fantastic. Stress is my biggest trigger for disturbed sleep. I try to walk everyday and write stuff down about what’s stressing me out.


  • #215
    Fathom
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    meggiemegmeg wrote: »
    Stress is my biggest trigger for disturbed sleep. I try to walk everyday and write stuff down about what’s stressing me out.
    It may be interesting to note 2 types of stress. The Hans Selye Theory suggests that distress is bad, but eustress is good. The former drags us down and can adversely affect sleep. The last is positive and gets us up in the morning to take on the days challenges. Of course, this is an simplification of his theory. Didn't want to stress us all out with heavy conceptualizations. :D


  • #216
    Airyfairy12
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    My favorite thing about lockdowns is I can sleep to my own body clock and dont have to force myself out of bed at 7am.
    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Word of warning I've heard that melatonin works wonders for some and does nothing for others. Been absolutely brilliant for me

    I was prescribed this, the first night it worked wonders, I had the best nights sleep, the second night and every other night after that, it did nothing. So annoying.

    Not to give medical advice but antihistamines work great, not sure if this is just me but if I take them for a few nights a weeks I get a rash that spreads from under my chin and gradually spreads across my entire face. Besides this, I generally get a good nights sleep with them.


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  • #217
    Yyhhuuu
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    Stop eating junk food to help sleep


  • #218
    olestoepoke
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    Yyhhuuu wrote: »
    Stop eating junk food to help sleep

    Wouldn't it be just wonderful if it was as easy as that?


  • #219
    Fathom
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    Airyfairy12 wrote: »
    Not to give medical advice but antihistamines work great, not sure if this is just me but if I take them for a few nights a weeks I get a rash that spreads from under my chin and gradually spreads across my entire face. Besides this, I generally get a good nights sleep with them.
    Let's just say that it would be best to consult your GP about "antihistamines" rather than us here.


  • #220
    corks finest
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be just wonderful if it was as easy as that?

    I went through years of it, stress a lot of it, trued herbal sleeping tablets, ordinary ones, etc etc, found I got back into reading big time, it helped, also meditation definitely was also good, but my reading nightly did it, now I'm not brilliant but get about 5/6 hours which for me is great


  • #221
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    meggiemegmeg wrote: »
    . I use valerian-from a herbalist. I find it fantastic. Stress is my biggest trigger for disturbed sleep. I try to walk everyday and write stuff down about what’s stressing me out.
    any side effects with the valerian and is that like the valerian from the health food shop? I read it works like valium on the GABA system but while valium works immediately I have read valerian takes a few night to build up.


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  • #222
    Fathom
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    Massage by significant other. Puts me out every time.


  • #223
    Yyhhuuu
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be just wonderful if it was as easy as that?

    It's one step


  • #224
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be just wonderful if it was as easy as that?
    I often could not sleep and had no junk food eaten


  • #225
    olestoepoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Kristopher Cool Redneck wrote: »
    I often could not sleep and had no junk food eaten

    I think the poster was correct in that if you incorporated health eating and exercise into your life it 100% will help with sleep but not an instant cure by any means.


  • #226
    arex93
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    I don't know if I have insomnia or just bad habits, every night I am struggling to fall asleep. I'm feeling anxious, so it could be the cause. I try to avoid my phone, I put some relaxing music, drink chamomile tea before bed but with no results. I go to bed around 11pm to fall asleep at 4am. Yesterday I took valerian, It made me feel very relaxed but I slept only around 2h30am. I will try today again, but this time I will take one during the evening and one before going to bed. I'm looking for a job, I'm felling a useless person… and these habits won't help me.


  • #227
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    Fathom wrote: »
    Massage by significant other. Puts me out every time.

    Step 1: Find a girlfriend.


  • #228
    olestoepoke
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    arex93 wrote: »
    I don't know if I have insomnia or just bad habits, every night I am struggling to fall asleep. I'm feeling anxious, so it could be the cause. I try to avoid my phone, I put some relaxing music, drink chamomile tea before bed but with no results. I go to bed around 11pm to fall asleep at 4am. Yesterday I took valerian, It made me feel very relaxed but I slept only around 2h30am. I will try today again, but this time I will take one during the evening and one before going to bed. I'm looking for a job, I'm felling a useless person… and these habits won't help me.
    One of the biggest mistakes we can make is staying in bed when u can't sleep, tormenting yourself. Brain now associates bed with mental torture. Get up after 30 min when u know u won't sleep, go to another room and do something to calm your mind or boring. Me I go to the livingroom lie down and listen to a richard dawkins audio book, when I feel sleepy i go to bed and usually this works well for me


  • #229
    arex93
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    One of the biggest mistakes we can make is staying in bed when u can't sleep, tormenting yourself. Brain now associates bed with mental torture. Get up after 30 min when u know u won't sleep, go to another room and do something to calm your mind or boring. Me I go to the livingroom lie down and listen to a richard dawkins audio book, when I feel sleepy i go to bed and usually this works well for me

    Jaysus, you are right. I've just realized that in the past I used to go to bed later than today, but usually I fell asleep straight away. I will do something about it. Thank you! :)


  • #230
    Fathom
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    One of the biggest mistakes we can make is staying in bed when u can't sleep
    I sometimes move from bed to couch. Turn on boring TV. Puts me out.


  • #231
    olestoepoke
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    Fathom wrote: »
    I sometimes move from bed to couch. Turn on boring TV. Puts me out.

    Yeah I think you need to find what works for you. I read the book "the effortless sleep method". Some of the advice worked well for me some didn't. I'm back sleeping properly now and here's what I did, Get out of bed after 20 or 30 minutes when you know you're not gonna sleep, staying there only strengthens the association with not being able to sleep.

    Started eating healthier than normal, cut right back on caffeine, two cups of coffee in the morning and maybe one cup of tea early afternoon. Also no food after 6pm.

    Started walking for about 40 minutes everyday briskly with the dog.

    Set my alarm for 7 am every morning 7 days a week and don't go to bed until I'm tired, if I cant sleep I get up go to the couch stick on an audiobook from YouTube on the laptop and when I feel tired go back to bed and I usually drift off.


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  • #232
    Fathom
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Started walking for about 40 minutes everyday briskly with the dog.
    I workout every day. Normally helps.


  • #233
    Thelonious Monk
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    I am on the 3rd week of the sleepio program. Having kept a sleep diary the previous 2 weeks sleepio came to the conclusion I should go to bed at 0115 and get up at 0630 this week. Sunday night wasn't great but last night I slept right through, so around 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep, which for me is fantastic.
    The program is a form of CBT, which aims for you to associate your bed just with sleeping and nothing else. If you wake up and can't get back asleep within 15 minutes you get up and go to a different room until you're sleepy again. It seems to be cutting out the anxiety I had about going to bed as I find nothing worse than lying there writhing try to sleep.
    I haven't had any alcohol since New Year's Eve either so that helps, having a few drinks can mess up my sleep for days.


  • #234
    olestoepoke
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    I am on the 3rd week of the sleepio program. Having kept a sleep diary the previous 2 weeks sleepio came to the conclusion I should go to bed at 0115 and get up at 0630 this week. Sunday night wasn't great but last night I slept right through, so around 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep, which for me is fantastic.
    The program is a form of CBT, which aims for you to associate your bed just with sleeping and nothing else. If you wake up and can't get back asleep within 15 minutes you get up and go to a different room until you're sleepy again. It seems to be cutting out the anxiety I had about going to bed as I find nothing worse than lying there writhing try to sleep.
    I haven't had any alcohol since New Year's Eve either so that helps, having a few drinks can mess up my sleep for days.

    Sounds like a combination of good sleep hygiene (breaking the bad association) and sleep restriction. Definitely the way forward for anyone with problems. Worked for me, although I do still have occasional bad nights.


  • #235
    Thelonious Monk
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Sounds like a combination of good sleep hygiene (breaking the bad association) and sleep restriction. Definitely the way forward for anyone with problems. Worked for me, although I do still have occasional bad nights.

    yes sleepio.com is worth a look. Hopefully if I keep this up for a while my attitude towards bed and sleep might change. I feel so great after 5 hours solid sleep, I can never understand these people who say they need 8 or 9 hours or they can't function!


  • #236
    olestoepoke
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    yes sleepio.com is worth a look. Hopefully if I keep this up for a while my attitude towards bed and sleep might change. I feel so great after 5 hours solid sleep, I can never understand these people who say they need 8 or 9 hours or they can't function!

    Sleep is so important and most take it for granted. I was angry when I came onto several boards threads and posters were making fun of others. One poster actually used the word 'suicidal' and still people belittled the topic and cracked jokes. Some have the odd sleepless night while others have serious problems that aren't one bit funny. The effortless sleep method is worth a read imo a good book.


  • #237
    Thelonious Monk
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Sleep is so important and most take it for granted. I was angry when I came onto several boards threads and posters were making fun of others. One poster actually used the word 'suicidal' and still people belittled the topic and cracked jokes. Some have the odd sleepless night while others have serious problems that aren't one bit funny. The effortless sleep method is worth a read imo a good book.

    I've read a lot, I can't keep up with them all. I was reading one called the sleep book recently, seems pretty good. I think most of them have the same message, what I like about sleepio is it is making me put it into practice.


  • #238
    weetiepie
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    yes sleepio.com is worth a look. Hopefully if I keep this up for a while my attitude towards bed and sleep might change. I feel so great after 5 hours solid sleep, I can never understand these people who say they need 8 or 9 hours or they can't function!

    Because we are all different I suppose we need varying amounts of sleep. It think the younger you are the more sleep.you need..as in 8/9 hrs. I know my parent can survive on 5 hrs and is fine


  • #239
    weetiepie
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Sleep is so important and most take it for granted. I was angry when I came onto several boards threads and posters were making fun of others. One poster actually used the word 'suicidal' and still people belittled the topic and cracked jokes. Some have the odd sleepless night while others have serious problems that aren't one bit funny. The effortless sleep method is worth a read imo a good book.

    Coundnt agree more with you..sleep is so essential, like eating/drinking. It's amazing how quickly my mental state crumbles after successive nights of little to no sleep. It's a huge effort to keep my sleep hygiene right..but is essential to do so. I have huge empathy for people who are insomniacs. Its soul destroying trying to function on little or no sleep.on a day to day basis


  • #240
    Fathom
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    Sleep can be entertaining, too. I remember my dreams. Almost every night. Even spooky ones. For those I wake, Whew... just a dream! Now for a good day. Every day.


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  • #241
    TP_CM
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    Anyone have advice for solving sleep maintenance insomnia? I could go to bed at anytime after 8:30pm, and fall asleep within a few minutes. But 5 hours later I wake up, wide awake unable to get back to sleep.

    More recently, I've been

    - Going to bed at around 10:30pm, sleeping until 3:30am,
    - Reading until 5:30am and then sleeping again
    - Waking up between 7:30 and 8am (I haven't needed an alarm in the past 5+ years. I always wake up between 7:30 and 8am)

    The problem I have is that sometimes, I can't get the 5am-7:30am sleep. I lie there absolutely shattered but not sleepy, if that makes sense? Almost like a jetlag.

    The only idea I have is going to bed earlier, say 9:30 and sleeping until 2:30am. Which gives me more time then to get a 2 hour nap in before 7:30. I'm worried about the anti-social hours though. I mean that's over 10 hours in bed, 2-3 of which are spent reading in the middle of the night. I would much rather sleep from 10:30 to 6:30am.


  • #242
    olestoepoke
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    Maybe try sleep restriction, go to bed later 2 am and sleep to 7am and do that for a few weeks then slowly drag that back by lets say 30 min see how that goes for a couple of weeks. thats what a lot of the books recommend anyway.


  • #243
    Thelonious Monk
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    Why are you going to bed so early? Try going to bed maybe at 1230 every night and getting up at 730 for a week or so, don't go near your bed at any other times. This approach seems to be working for me.


  • #244
    TP_CM
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Why are you going to bed so early? Try going to bed maybe at 1230 every night and getting up at 730 for a week or so, don't go near your bed at any other times. This approach seems to be working for me.

    I think I started going to bed earlier because if I went to bed at 12:30am I woke up at 5:30am. I lay awake for 2 hours and then I became really sleepy, just as I needed to get up for work at 7:30am.

    I think I have been lying in bed awake too much over the past few years. Maybe the sleep restriction is the way to go. I'm just not sure whether to go to bed at 10:30pm and get up at 3:30am, or go to bed at 2:30am and get up at 7:30am as another poster suggested. I can't honestly say I've given either a proper go. How long should I try that for? 3 weeks is it?


  • #245
    Thelonious Monk
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    TP_CM wrote: »
    I think I started going to bed earlier because if I went to bed at 12:30am I woke up at 5:30am. I lay awake for 2 hours and then I became really sleepy, just as I needed to get up for work at 7:30am.

    I think I have been lying in bed awake too much over the past few years. Maybe the sleep restriction is the way to go. I'm just not sure whether to go to bed at 10:30pm and get up at 3:30am, or go to bed at 2:30am and get up at 7:30am as another poster suggested. I can't honestly say I've given either a proper go. How long should I try that for? 3 weeks is it?

    check out sleepio.com, you have to put in a UK postcode to sign up, I think I used SE7 or something.
    You keep a sleep diary for 2 weeks, trying to go to bed and get up around the same times, and note how many times you woke up and for how long.
    In week 3, like I'm on now, it tells you when to go to bed and when to get up.
    I was getting around 4h 45m or so a night so it gave me the times of 0115 to 0630 to go to bed and get up at.
    The last 3 nights of this I've been asleep nearly the whole time I've been in bed those hours, and I actually really look forward to going to bed as I can put my head down and I just knock out. This is unprecedented for me.
    I have to do this till Sunday then I'll be given the next steps, maybe it will expand my hours in bed. It's a 6 week course in total but I wouldn't bother trying unless you're fully committed. I have cut out alcohol completely and made some other changes so I can do this.

    Lying in bed anxious and writhing is the worst thing you can do, I've realised, as you'll associate bed with unpleasantness, you're better off being up.


  • #246
    olestoepoke
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    [QUOTE=

    Lying in bed anxious and writhing is the worst thing you can do, I've realised, as you'll associate bed with unpleasantness, you're better off being up.[/QUOTE]

    Ill second this, bed is for sleep and sex and thats it, no watching movies, leave your phone outside the room and get out of bed if you can't sleep aster 15 or 20 min. Our brains are great at making associations conscious or other and if you are lying there tortured rolling around for hours your brain will associate your bed with that torture. You need to break that association and try to stop worrying about sleep. If I cant sleep now I get up go to the living room and lie down on the couch listen to an audio book and just say to myself hey its not the end of the world, ill get through tomorrow and life goes on. I wasn't always like this id lie on the couch giving out looking at the clock and counting how many hours left I have to sleep etc. Get rid of clocks, never mind the time and try not to care if you sleep or not as worrying about sleep because you cant sleep will prevent you from sleeping.


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  • #247
    Worztron
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    Excellent tips there, Tar. Ref: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=51810738&postcount=1

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • #248
    olestoepoke
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    Worztron wrote: »
    Excellent tips there, Tar. Ref: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=51810738&postcount=1

    All useful tips, although I disagree with the notion that adults need 8 hours etc and think that tip can actually cause more harm than good if people are worried if they don't aren't getting 8 hours. There have been plenty of studies and we are all different. Margaret thatcher slept for 4 hours every night for her entire working adult life, I personally feel great if I can get 6 hours. Quality of sleep is much more important than quantity. We constantly drift through different sleep cycles throughout the night and the deep sleep part of this is the most important and restorative, I have often had a bad nights sleep where I know I fell asleep and I know I was dreaming but I also feel that I didn't get any of the important deep restorative sleep. So that said we don't all need 8 hours and in fact 8 hours may be oversleeping for some.


  • #249
    Worztron
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    All useful tips, although I disagree with the notion that adults need 8 hours etc and think that tip can actually cause more harm than good if people are worried if they don't aren't getting 8 hours. There have been plenty of studies and we are all different. Margaret thatcher slept for 4 hours every night for her entire working adult life, I personally feel great if I can get 6 hours. Quality of sleep is much more important than quantity. We constantly drift through different sleep cycles throughout the night and the deep sleep part of this is the most important and restorative, I have often had a bad nights sleep where I know I fell asleep and I know I was dreaming but I also feel that I didn't get any of the important deep restorative sleep. So that said we don't all need 8 hours and in fact 8 hours may be oversleeping for some.

    Hi olestoepoke. Good point. I too feel fine with 6h.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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    TP_CM
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    So, strange thing last night. I was all set to get up at 3:30am after a 5 hour sleep. So I fall asleep within a few minutes at about 10:30pm but our little one wakes me up at 2am after a nightmare she's had. We get that sorted within 20 minutes and she's back to sleep. I go back to bed (about 2:30am) and after 15 minutes I'm sleeping solid until 8am. I feel like setting an alarm for 2am tonight!


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    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Mirtazapine is the only thing that works for me.
    Stilnoct has no effect.


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