Supporting craft breweries

randomname2005 · 21-03-2020 9:36am #1

Wanted to start a thread with a list of Irish craft breweries selling online so we can support them as much as possible during the crisis- it would be a shame to see any of them close. (Yes I know directly supporting them will impact sales in shops and off licenses but shops have other items to make a profit from so they can stay afloat and those of us in rural places don't always have a local off license to support).

So far I have seen white hag and kingarven selling online but would be interested in seeing what others have found.

Edit - ideally independent which I believe the two above still are

raxy · 21-03-2020 9:44am

Lineman in Rathcoole. making some great beers.

https://lineman-beer.myshopify.com/

randomname2005 · 21-03-2020 9:47am

raxy wrote: »

Lineman in Rathcoole. making some great beers.

https://lineman-beer.myshopify.com/

How have I not heard of lineman? Thanks

BeerNut · 21-03-2020 1:23pm

There's a website with more listed here.

Bogsnorkler · 21-03-2020 1:29pm

Mescan are

The Buster · 22-03-2020 2:02pm

I have bought from mescan and whitehag online stores in the past few days. All ready now for any lockdown!

Doodah7 · 22-03-2020 2:34pm

Rascals in Inchicore are selling online.

22-03-2020 10:53pm

I’ve bought from Wicklow Wolf and 9 White Deer. Going to get a few from Ballykilcavan next time I’m passing that way too.

Hopefully most of them can stay afloat.

Inspector Coptoor · 22-03-2020 10:57pm

White hag selling online with free delivery and if you order they are giving a 20% discount.

We bought 2 cases the first order and 6 for the next.

6 cases of 24 cans shipped to the door for €288.

€2 for a can of class craft beer.

No brainer.

randomname2005 · 23-03-2020 10:06am

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

White hag selling online with free delivery and if you order they are giving a 20% discount.

We bought 2 cases the first order and 6 for the next.

6 cases of 24 cans shipped to the door for €288.

€2 for a can of class craft beer.

No brainer.

How did you get 20% off, don't see it when I go through or is it a code for repeat customers?

23-03-2020 5:56pm

I see nearly everything is sold out at White Hag now anyway.

slayerking · 30-03-2020 3:14pm

Dead centre has started a website that sells all the midland brewerie's beers direct from the breweries.
Beercloud.ie

n97 mini · 01-04-2020 11:32pm

slayerking wrote: »

Dead centre has started a website that sells all the midland brewerie's beers direct from the breweries.
Beercloud.ie

https://twitter.com/DeadCentreBrew/status/1245470486919872515

Geuze · 02-04-2020 12:37am

White Hag - 60 euro for 24 cans 33cl

3.75 for 50cl, a bit dear???

andekwarhola · 02-04-2020 12:58am

Haven't really making extra measures as regards Irish craft beer brewers as I'm assuming supermarket and offie trade still doing well? Maybe I'm wrong?

I will be trying to show extra support for my favourite independent pubs by seeing if if I can buy vouchers though.

randomname2005 · 02-04-2020 1:45pm

andekwarhola wrote: »

Haven't really making extra measures as regards Irish craft beer brewers as I'm assuming supermarket and offie trade still doing well? Maybe I'm wrong?

I will be trying to show extra support for my favourite independent pubs by seeing if if I can buy vouchers though.

Both outlet types are probably doing okay, but buying direct from the brewery probably gives them more profit.

randomname2005 · 02-04-2020 1:47pm

Geuze wrote: »

White Hag - 60 euro for 24 cans 33cl

3.75 for 50cl, a bit dear???

What would you normally pay for craft beer? That is the same price as my local supermarket - 4 cans for 10, but with no middle man taking a cut from them. 500ml bottles of, e.g., Kinnegar are in the 3.50 to 3.99 range, same for Wicklow wolf bottles.

Hodors Appletart · 02-04-2020 3:41pm

whiplash have a webshop now

cans of body riddle and rollover or a mixed case at the moment

they do have some doubles and specials in tanks at the moment though and they will be added from next week

the rollover available is pretty good i got a mixed case last week from them. body riddle is good too.

i like having a few lower abv beers around for that afternoon slump between zoom meetings

listermint · 02-04-2020 3:51pm

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

whiplash have a webshop now

cans of body riddle and rollover or a mixed case at the moment

they do have some doubles and specials in tanks at the moment though and they will be added from next week

the rollover available is pretty good i got a mixed case last week from them. body riddle is good too.

i like having a few lower abv beers around for that afternoon slump between zoom meetings

They need to sort out the age verification .. DOB isn't a requirement just an awknowledgement of age. The dob I'd to put in twice. Pain in the hole.

Hodors Appletart · 02-04-2020 4:48pm

give them a break like they are brewers not web designers

L1011 · 02-04-2020 5:45pm

Wonder what licence they're using for the sale. Don't care enough to not have ordered some though :pac: I can get a basic set of Irish crafts + Brewdog on my food shops but not some more interesting stuff.

My partner ordered two slabs of Rascals before last weekend; has gone through nearly all the Wunderbar already :eek:

Dead Centre have a pub licence which inherently allows off sales; Irish Distillers have multiple pub licences across their visitor centres in Cork and Dublin so I'm guessing that one of those may be where the 8 Degrees store is legally shipping from.

Somewhere with consistent supply of Kinnegar (particularly Rustbucket) and GBB would round off my usuals nicely. Craftcentral don't do Kinnegar bottles, presumably for shelf space reasons.

02-04-2020 5:48pm

A lot only seem able to sell a minimum amount. Ballykilcavan referenced it on their website I think. Not sure how it works though.

L1011 · 02-04-2020 6:12pm

There's a level considered wholesale which I can't remember and can't quickly find but I would have thought it was >8l that a slab of 33s would give.

There are people who are vastly more aware of this than me. Paging BeerNut, paging BeerNut.

raxy · 02-04-2020 6:53pm

Under the brewery licence they are not allowed sell under 4.5 gallons or no less than a dozen quart (just under 1L) bottles, which would be a minimum of 2 cases. Blacks of Kinsale were reported to revenue for breaking the terms of their licence by selling less.
I'm not sure if those selling by the case have a different licence or are just ignoring the limit.

Bus Boy · 02-04-2020 6:59pm

Having of glass of White Hag's Brand & Sceolan now, absolutely delicious. Will be stocking up with more tomorrow.

02-04-2020 7:29pm

Did an order from Blacks as they have Mosaic back. Hopefully it’s close enough to the old one.

TitianGerm · 02-04-2020 7:30pm

Anyone like to shed some light on what they thought of the White Hag Puca Range? I've stuck in an order with them but might do a second order to try these.

02-04-2020 7:32pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Anyone like to shed some light on what they thought of the White Hag Puca Range? I've stuck in an order with them but might do a second order to try these.

Love the pink one, not so much the yellow. More of a scorcher weather type drink though.

matrim · 02-04-2020 7:45pm

raxy wrote: »

Under the brewery licence they are not allowed sell under 4.5 gallons or no less than a dozen quart (just under 1L) bottles, which would be a minimum of 2 cases. Blacks of Kinsale were reported to revenue for breaking the terms of their licence by selling less.
I'm not sure if those selling by the case have a different licence or are just ignoring the limit.

Their site now says that all orders are fulfilled by 1601 off license in Kinsale. i'd guess that the above is the reason it's there.

TitianGerm · 02-04-2020 7:48pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Love the pink one, not so much the yellow. More of a scorcher weather type drink though.

Might hold off and get a few in the next order so. Just went with the Helles Style Larger this time.

the beer revolu · 03-04-2020 9:47am

TitianGerm wrote: »

Anyone like to shed some light on what they thought of the White Hag Puca Range? I've stuck in an order with them but might do a second order to try these.

I really like the lemon one but that's not available at the moment.
Pink one isn't to my taste - bit on an alcopop, imo.
The apricot one is nice - if you really like apricot!

TitianGerm · 03-04-2020 9:49am

the beer revolu wrote: »

I really like the lemon one but that's not available at the moment.
Pink one isn't to my taste - bit on an alcopop, imo.
The apricot one is nice - if you really like apricot!

I'd like the Apricot one I think. Herself was a big fan of fruit beers when we were in Amsterdam and Brussels last year so the red/pink one might suit her.

Thanks for the help guys.

the beer revolu · 03-04-2020 10:28am

TitianGerm wrote: »

I'd like the Apricot one I think. Herself was a big fan of fruit beers when we were in Amsterdam and Brussels last year so the red/pink one might suit her.

Thanks for the help guys.

They are all pretty sour, keep that in mind.

PWEI · 03-04-2020 11:19am

Does anybody know if the Western Herd Brewing Company beer's are on sale anywhere in Dublin? I tweeted them asking but never got a reply.

03-04-2020 12:29pm

Geuze wrote: »

White Hag - 60 euro for 24 cans 33cl

3.75 for 50cl, a bit dear???

It's the same price as buying from the supermarkets where its routinely 4 for E10.

You'd think they'd knock a bit more off.

Have to say though the Milk Chocolate Stout is one I keep an eye out for since I first had it. Seems to be harder to find(local had some lately for the first time in months so I've nabbed 12).

While the IPAs are very nice theres more competition and value to be had at the price. The stout scene is a little less stacked though.

BeerNut · 03-04-2020 12:34pm

gilberto_eire wrote: »

You'd think they'd knock a bit more off.

I wouldn't. Breweries' main customers for packaged beers are off licences. Starting a price war against their own customers makes no commercial sense.

raxy · 03-04-2020 1:31pm

BeerNut wrote: »

I wouldn't. Breweries' main customers for packaged beers are off licences. Starting a price war against their own customers makes no commercial sense.

I wouldn't consider that a price war. Buying direct from a brewery is buying in bulk, offlicence is typicall lower volume orders so a different market really. PLus you have delivery charges from the brewery 6 - 7.5 per order & have to wait for delivery.
If you buy a tray of 24 cans in tesco than it would be cheaper than if you buy 1 or 6. The same should apply to a craft beer without being considered a price war.

Liamo08 · 03-04-2020 1:57pm

One thing to consider when buying from the brewery directly is the freshness of the beer. I bought a box last week from The White Hag and every can was super fresh, that's a lot better than you're going to get in a supermarket with beers sitting on the shelves for months.

randomname2005 · 03-04-2020 2:10pm

raxy wrote: »

I wouldn't consider that a price war. Buying direct from a brewery is buying in bulk, offlicence is typicall lower volume orders so a different market really. PLus you have delivery charges from the brewery 6 - 7.5 per order & have to wait for delivery.
If you buy a tray of 24 cans in tesco than it would be cheaper than if you buy 1 or 6. The same should apply to a craft beer without being considered a price war.

White hag had free delivery

Bus Boy · 03-04-2020 2:19pm

Picked a load of stuff up from Redmond's today. Great selection and a load of The White Hag on 4 for €10.

DelmarODonnell · 03-04-2020 4:21pm

raxy wrote: »

I wouldn't consider that a price war. Buying direct from a brewery is buying in bulk, offlicence is typicall lower volume orders so a different market really. PLus you have delivery charges from the brewery 6 - 7.5 per order & have to wait for delivery.
If you buy a tray of 24 cans in tesco than it would be cheaper than if you buy 1 or 6. The same should apply to a craft beer without being considered a price war.

I know where you are coming from but in these times, I'm more than happy to pay pretty much the same amount as in off licence and get more dough into these fellas back pockets.

Th freshness of the beer is also worth paying for.

RasTa · 04-04-2020 9:06am

It's always cheaper buying direct from the brewery. Not sure why anyone would suggest otherwise.

listermint · 04-04-2020 9:09am

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

give them a break like they are brewers not web designers

Tips should be welcomed .

04-04-2020 9:09am

RasTa wrote: »

It's always cheaper buying direct from the brewery. Not sure why anyone would suggest otherwise.

Some are doing mixes, but for the most part the off-licence is the only place to go for a variety instead of a slab of the same can. For a lot of people it’s worth the bit extra.

listermint · 04-04-2020 9:13am

RasTa wrote: »

It's always cheaper buying direct from the brewery. Not sure why anyone would suggest otherwise.

Correction 'it should be' but the reality is it's not. Same or similar pricing as off licenses and supermarkets on all these websites

RasTa · 04-04-2020 9:16am

Yeah probably another weird Irish thing being the only country in the entire world where you can't buy beer direct from the brewery ie a single can or 2

the beer revolu · 04-04-2020 10:26am

Jaysus, some of you lot take the biscuit!

These small companies have lost a major part of their business (kegged beer) - in most cases, the majority of their businesse - yet there are people complaining that these crippled breweries are charging the same price as supermarkets.

Some bunch of miserable fecks!

04-04-2020 10:35am

Supporting them, and other industries, is worthy enough and I’ve done it myself but the buyer has to do what’s best for themselves too. Go into most breweries and look at the equipment and products they use and see how much of it is Irish or how much of it is German/Italian/Chinese/British. That’s fine too, they’re businesses, but everyone has to make the best decisions for themselves. Someone wishing a price was lower doesn’t make them miserable.

RasTa · 04-04-2020 10:51am

A few lads I know working in Irish ones saying they can't keep up with demand atm and will start to scale back soon and maybe take a break so stock up.

My Verdant order got cancelled this week and they are shutting down for the month as Parcelforce can't deliver their beer at this time.

05-04-2020 7:37am

Yeah looking at a lot of breweries stock online it could be the time to start stocking up in a big way now. The off licences have Sold Our beside near every beer for online ordering too.

raxy · 05-04-2020 9:56am

just to clarify what I said, I hadn't checked the prices being charged, I was only commenting that a brewery charging less than an off licence is not a price war, just a different business model. I looked up a couple since & they are charging less than off licence prices. Rascals for instance charge €50 per crate which is 2.08 per can. they're generally on 4 for 10 in off licences so 2.50 a can. Thats a fair price.
THe licence limit is more a problem, having to buy 2 crates at a time is a bit much. Would be nice if they got rid of that, even reduce it to 1 crate.
A lot of off licences have a very poor selection of Irish craft beer. Some may do well with the shut down but I think a lot are going to struggle without the pub trade.

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