How do you convince people god exists?

Pauliedragon wrote: »

It's called faith and it keeps a lot of people happy in their lives so let them be. I know plenty of people who will say there's no proof of a god so it doesn't exist but ask them if there's extra terestrial life out there they'll say of course there is we can't be the only planet out of billiions that's inhabited. Why need proof of one and not the other?

It was only a few years ago that the Vatican came out and admitted there may be aliens after spending millenna preaching earth was a unique creation by god
Think it was in A Brief History of Time that Hawking proves god doesn't exist in a single paragraph

For those with faith no sweat for those without it - not a hope ,one shouldn't have to convince anyone of anything

olestoepoke wrote: »

Religion, together we will find a cure.

...because prayer solves everything

Charles Babbage wrote: »

but impossible to reasonably know He does not exist.

Very easy for an atheist or anyone else who isn't Christian

Charles Babbage wrote: »

It isn't so easy to prove God exists, but impossible to reasonably know He does not exist.

Which one?

storker wrote: »

I'm impressed. The disgruntled 15-year-olds you know seem to have got the hang of critical thinking. There's hope for mankind yet, it seems.

With all due respect the height of critical thinking I've ever heard from an atheist is I can't see him therefore he doesn't exist.

Their arguments have always struck me as basic and rather childish.

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah..and it's all ill thought out 2 dimensional understanding, and thinking they're always right..

I feel this thread would have been a lot better off being left in AH..
Now you'll just get a load of atheists coming in with quips and a misplaced air of intellectual superiority..

OK, so prove them wrong. Answer this post with your proof that God exists.

Deleted User wrote: »

Shur Moses saw him in the burning bush that time..

There is a theory that Moses got high on DMT from the burning bush and saw "God"

Deleted User wrote: »

Ooohhh.. How cutting edge..

Is that a typo? Did you mean "Cutting hedge"?

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

You could show them near death experience videos on YouTube. You will even find hardened criminals, who following their n.d.e. became preachers.

The brain releases doses of DMT from the pineal gland in times of severe stress. When we are born, when we almost die and probably when we die. This is the spirit molecule, probably what aids dreaming. Most everyone that has smoked DMT reports talking to beings or entities and feeling overwhelming love. Bright lights etc. Sound familiar?

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

If life is so meaningless/ pointless, you could always throw yourself off a bridge.

The good Christian response!

Meaning is what you make it yourself. Make it good, because there's no after-life.

Find a way to lower someone's IQ.

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

Just remember the take three hits of the DMT, the third one is crucial apparently. Well from what I’ve heard on Joe Rogan, the d.m.t. experience is much more trippy than an n.d.e. People who have died and come back have been shown every year of their life and the good and bad they have carried out. A bit different to talking to a psychedelic looking pink alien.

I haven't had the pleasure of either experience so can't speculate

My answer is always, show them a photo of a Sumatran Tiger and ask them if they really believe that happened by accident.

In all seriousness, to me, Science and God are one in the same. I am not a person of much faith, I seek out proof and plausibility for almost everything, its in my nature. Man has made great sense of his universe through repeatable demonstration. However the science is always finite, the physics of all creation, at least insofar as we understand it now, has dead ends, horizons beyond which we really have no clue.

Did the matter of all things blink into being, was it created from a previous destruction and if so what in turn inspired that into existence.

I'm no bible basher, it was written by flawed sinners that men are and it was aimed at a the simple and illiterate civilisation of the time, then picked apart and reformed by Councils of further flawed sinners in later eras to suit their own agendas and to control people. It may have been inspired by tales of good and kind people but really you could never take it as Gospel....

Stephen Hawking said he believed the Universe spontaneously created out of nothing, from a point of singularity, according to the laws of nature that are fixed. His dismissal of a Creator is based on his hypothesis that there was absolutely nothing, even time, before this event and so there was not 'time' for God to exist.

All I sense from that was a frustration at reaching the limit of knowledge, of understanding, but since I first read him I have always wondered, with that conclusion, who was the Professor trying to convince, others or himself....

kneemos wrote: »

If a God didn't allow cancer you'd say why is there starvation? Get rid of starvation you say why do folk fall down stairs,etc,etc,etc.

What you're talking about is an impossible utopia where the ultimate logical conclusion is a world where everyone lives the same perfect pain and trouble free life.

Is that not what's supposed to be on offer in an afterlife? That makes the pain and suffering in this life a deliberate decision to fluck with his own creations

Nikki Sixx wrote:

For me the seasons and the way nature moves in cycles is fascinating. I find it too hard to believe that say the seasons, the way animals hibernate each year and the dependence of flowers on honey bees to complete their life cycle, is all an accident. But I’m sure I’ll be regarded as simple for saying that.

The workings of nature sure is astonishing, you d have to wonder, how the hell has all this been created here, on this little blue rock. Yup it all could be a complete fluck, are maybe not, who knows. Your thoughts are not simple at all, life on this planet, and how it all got here, is simply astonishing