How do you convince people god exists?

I was brought up a catholic, attended mass regularly and said my prayers at night. Then came the internet, knowledge and church scandals that planted the seeds of doubt. Then a friend of mine suggested I check out Richard Dawkins book the "God Delusion", I got to the end of that book and it was almost like a religious experience, an awakening of sorts. The catholic religion is merely a collection of religious beliefs gathered over thousands of years and put together. The use of local pagan events like the winter solstice on the 25th of December helped ease the transition for the non believers. Part of me still hopes there is some kind of afterlife but not the one that organised religion has been selling and using as a form of control for centuries. On the subjects of an afterlife I read a book called the "Spirit Molecule" that explains DMT.

Panrich

Charles Babbage wrote: »

It isn't so easy to prove God exists, but impossible to reasonably know He does not exist.

Albeit you claim it isn’t so easy to prove God exists, your assertion indicates that it is possible. I think we have been waiting around here for a long time for someone to come along with a proof of Gods existence.

storker

Deleted User wrote: »

Tbh I think the whole atheist trend that is happening now will turn out to be just a phase we go through..

So much of it is like listening to a disgruntled 15 year old..

I'm impressed. The disgruntled 15-year-olds you know seem to have got the hang of critical thinking. There's hope for mankind yet, it seems.

Charles Babbage wrote: »

It isn't so easy to prove God exists, but impossible to reasonably know He does not exist.

Which one?

storker wrote: »

I'm impressed. The disgruntled 15-year-olds you know seem to have got the hang of critical thinking. There's hope for mankind yet, it seems.

Yeah..and it's all ill thought out 2 dimensional understanding, and thinking they're always right..

I feel this thread would have been a lot better off being left in AH..
Now you'll just get a load of atheists coming in with quips and a misplaced air of intellectual superiority..

kneemos

storker wrote: »

I'm impressed. The disgruntled 15-year-olds you know seem to have got the hang of critical thinking. There's hope for mankind yet, it seems.

With all due respect the height of critical thinking I've ever heard from an atheist is I can't see him therefore he doesn't exist.

Their arguments have always struck me as basic and rather childish.

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah..and it's all ill thought out 2 dimensional understanding, and thinking they're always right..

I feel this thread would have been a lot better off being left in AH..
Now you'll just get a load of atheists coming in with quips and a misplaced air of intellectual superiority..

God forbid anyone have an opinion:D

storker

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah..and it's all ill thought out 2 dimensional understanding, and thinking they're always right..

I feel this thread would have been a lot better off being left in AH..
Now you'll just get a load of atheists coming in with quips and a misplaced air of intellectual superiority..

OK, so prove them wrong. Answer this post with your proof that God exists.

storker wrote: »

OK, so prove them wrong. Answer this post with your proof that God exists.

Shur Moses saw him in the burning bush that time..

Deleted User wrote: »

Shur Moses saw him in the burning bush that time..

There is a theory that Moses got high on DMT from the burning bush and saw "God"

olestoepoke wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Shur Moses saw him in the burning bush that time..

There is a theory that Moses got high on DMT from the burning bush and saw "God"

Ooohhh.. How cutting edge..

Deleted User wrote: »

Ooohhh.. How cutting edge..

Is that a typo? Did you mean "Cutting hedge"?

Dexter2019

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

How do you in history?

And how do you do it now?

With all the evidence etc.

Where is this God?

Nikki Sixx

You could show them near death experience videos on YouTube. You will even find hardened criminals, who following their n.d.e. became preachers.

kneemos wrote: »

With all due respect the height of critical thinking I've ever heard from an atheist is I can't see him therefore he doesn't exist.

Their arguments have always struck me as basic and rather childish.

But, but there's a pretty flower! God did it!

Not half as simplistic, eh?

Now here's a 2 year-old with leukemia. God has a different plan...

olestoepoke wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Ooohhh.. How cutting edge..

Is that a typo? Did you mean "Cutting hedge"?

Touche..

Nikki Sixx

Pherekydes wrote: »

But, but there's a pretty flower! God did it!

Not half as simplistic, eh?

Now here's a 2 year-old with leukemia. God has a different plan...

If life is so meaningless/ pointless, you could always throw yourself off a bridge.

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

You could show them near death experience videos on YouTube. You will even find hardened criminals, who following their n.d.e. became preachers.

The brain releases doses of DMT from the pineal gland in times of severe stress. When we are born, when we almost die and probably when we die. This is the spirit molecule, probably what aids dreaming. Most everyone that has smoked DMT reports talking to beings or entities and feeling overwhelming love. Bright lights etc. Sound familiar?

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah..and it's all ill thought out 2 dimensional understanding, and thinking they're always right..

I feel this thread would have been a lot better off being left in AH..
Now you'll just get a load of atheists coming in with quips and a misplaced air of intellectual superiority..

You should read "The Darkening Age". The early Christian Church literally bullied, beat, stabbed and burnt the intellectual curiosity out of Europe. The only way it could propagate itself.

But it's the One True Religion!

Yes..we get it.. you watched the spirit molecule..

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes..we get it.. you watched the spirit molecule..

Theres a movie? whoohoo

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

If life is so meaningless/ pointless, you could always throw yourself off a bridge.

The good Christian response!

Meaning is what you make it yourself. Make it good, because there's no after-life.

Pherekydes wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah..and it's all ill thought out 2 dimensional understanding, and thinking they're always right..

I feel this thread would have been a lot better off being left in AH..
Now you'll just get a load of atheists coming in with quips and a misplaced air of intellectual superiority..

You should read "The Darkening Age". The early Christian Church literally bullied, beat, stabbed and burnt the intellectual curiosity out of Europe. The only way it could propagate itself.

But it's the One True Religion!

First line of the first review I found of it..

Catherine Nixey cherry-picks historical evidence in her unevenly researched book The Darkening Age.

rosmoke

Find a way to lower someone's IQ.

Nikki Sixx

olestoepoke wrote: »

The brain releases doses of DMT from the pineal gland in times of severe stress. When we are born, when we almost die and probably when we die. This is the spirit molecule, probably what aids dreaming. Most everyone that has smoked DMT reports talking to beings or entities and feeling overwhelming love. Bright lights etc. Sound familiar?

Just remember the take three hits of the DMT, the third one is crucial apparently. Well from what I’ve heard on Joe Rogan, the d.m.t. experience is much more trippy than an n.d.e. People who have died and come back have been shown every year of their life and the good and bad they have carried out. A bit different to talking to a psychedelic looking pink alien.

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

Just remember the take three hits of the DMT, the third one is crucial apparently. Well from what I’ve heard on Joe Rogan, the d.m.t. experience is much more trippy than an n.d.e. People who have died and come back have been shown every year of their life and the good and bad they have carried out. A bit different to talking to a psychedelic looking pink alien.

I haven't had the pleasure of either experience so can't speculate

Deleted User wrote: »

First line of the first review I found of it..

Catherine Nixey cherry-picks historical evidence in her unevenly researched book The Darkening Age.

Well, duh. How big would a history book be if it included everything in history?

Every defender of the church cherry picks history to their heart's content.

Is any of her book untrue?

Extremely damning of the church. Some of their tactics were still being used when I was in school.

"Read this, not that..."

Cherry picking the Bible.

But, yeah, cherry picking...:rolleyes: