Filthy atheists stealing our Christmas

MagicMarker · 16-12-2011 4:45pm

Shiner11 wrote: »

What can you say to an atheist at this time of year?
You can't say Merry Christmas as they don't believe in God.
You can't say Merry Xmas because they don't go to mass.

What should you say to them?

Say Merry Xmas.

Dades · 16-12-2011 4:46pm

Shiner11 wrote: »

What should you say to them?

What are you having?

Galvasean · 16-12-2011 4:53pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

Right. Nobody really anwsered and regardless whether you are vegan or haven't got kids I was speaking hypothetically. Im agnostic by the way but I enjoy the holiday. Having one day off a year like xmas is nice and very warm. Why abolish it? What would you replace it with?

wait, whose trying to abolish it?

Shiner11 wrote: »

What can you say to an atheist at this time of year?
You can't say Merry Christmas as they don't believe in God.
You can't say Merry Xmas because they don't go to mass.

What should you say to them?

You can read their thread and see if it answers any of you questions

tricky D · 16-12-2011 4:54pm

Shiner11 wrote: »

What can you say to an atheist at this time of year?
You can't say Merry Christmas as they don't believe in God.
You can't say Merry Xmas because they don't go to mass.

What should you say to them?

Happy holidays and seasons greetings.

Jimoslimos · 16-12-2011 4:58pm

Shiner11 wrote: »

What can you say to an atheist at this time of year?
You can't say Merry Christmas as they don't believe in God.
You can't say Merry Xmas because they don't go to mass.

What should you say to them?

What do you say when you want to meet them on a Thursday?

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 4:58pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

sandmanporto wrote: »

Right. Nobody really anwsered and regardless whether you are vegan or haven't got kids I was speaking hypothetically. Im agnostic by the way but I enjoy the holiday. Having one day off a year like xmas is nice and very warm. Why abolish it? What would you replace it with?

Agnostic theist or agnostic atheist?

Thats a good question. I tend to swing between both. I believe its possible that there could be something higher than us but i dont completely believe its there. Im probably a mixture of both. I have zero faith in religion! Zero. I just like the warm atmosphere with family and friends at christmas. I place zero importance on the religious tradition of it though

Mark Hamill · 16-12-2011 4:59pm

Shiner11 wrote: »

What can you say to an atheist at this time of year?
You can't say Merry Christmas as they don't believe in God.
You can't say Merry Xmas because they don't go to mass.

What should you say to them?

Merry christmas.
What? I dont care about people saying "Thursday" to me and I dont believe in Thor too.

Galvasean · 16-12-2011 5:09pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

I have zero faith in religion! Zero. I just like the warm atmosphere with family and friends at christmas. I place zero importance on the religious tradition of it though

Congrats. You're the same as the majority of posters on A&A who enjoy Christmas in exactly the same way you do!

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 5:12pm

I remember i had a ex friend who was atheist. He believed when we die we just rot and feed flowers. He had some very shallow and cynical views on life. He depressed the f*ck out of me. He was extremely intelligent but he was one of these people who only cared about himself and didnt care about others. He kinda gave me a very negative attitude towards atheists. I suffer major depression if i were to follow his views i would never feel optimistic. Id prob top myself actually knowing that ill suffer this illness all my life knowing ill die for nothing. I keep my mind open there could be a release after death. That small small bit of hope aided me completely.

16-12-2011 5:19pm

i dont see what is so depressing about ceasing to exist after death, if we do
i mean i dont believe we do but what's so wrong with it?!
what difference does it make when you are here living life, experiencing all of it

Galvasean · 16-12-2011 5:20pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

I remember i had a ex friend who was atheist. He believed when we die we just rot and feed flowers. He had some very shallow and cynical views on life. He depressed the f*ck out of me. He was extremely intelligent but he was one of these people who only cared about himself and didnt care about others. He kinda gave me a very negative attitude towards atheists. I suffer major depression if i were to follow his views i would never feel optimistic. Id prob top myself actually knowing that ill suffer this illness all my life knowing ill die for nothing. I keep my mind open there could be a release after death. That small small bit of hope aided me completely.

That's nice. Now are you going to acknowledge that I've been taking the time to respond to you or will you just wade in with another random thought ten minutes from now?

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 5:29pm

Galvasean wrote: »

sandmanporto wrote: »

I remember i had a ex friend who was atheist. He believed when we die we just rot and feed flowers. He had some very shallow and cynical views on life. He depressed the f*ck out of me. He was extremely intelligent but he was one of these people who only cared about himself and didnt care about others. He kinda gave me a very negative attitude towards atheists. I suffer major depression if i were to follow his views i would never feel optimistic. Id prob top myself actually knowing that ill suffer this illness all my life knowing ill die for nothing. I keep my mind open there could be a release after death. That small small bit of hope aided me completely.

That's nice. Now are you going to acknowledge that I've been taking the time to respond to you or will you just wade in with another random thought ten minutes from now?

Right

Jimoslimos · 16-12-2011 5:29pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

I remember i had a ex friend who was atheist. He believed when we die we just rot and feed flowers.

Awwww, that's beautiful!

Sarky · 16-12-2011 5:31pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

Id prob top myself actually knowing that ill suffer this illness all my life knowing ill die for nothing.

1. Talk to someone, get help dealing with depression. Just because you're prone to it doesn't mean you have to suffer from it forever.

2. Don't die for nothing. Find something worth doing. It's surprisingly easy once you get over the hurdles depression causes, or the tendancy of religion to make you feel guilty over trivial things. Treasure your friends. Do stuff you like. Have a look at how amazing the world is.

As for Christmas, most people would be in favour of the idea of setting a couple of days aside a year to just chill with friends and family and acknowledge the fact that you're glad they're part of your life with a couple of presents, a few drinks, a nice meal and such. Might as well nick mid-December from the Christians to do it. After all, it's tradition to steal holidays from other cultures for your own purposes...

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 5:32pm

Jimoslimos wrote: »

sandmanporto wrote: »

I remember i had a ex friend who was atheist. He believed when we die we just rot and feed flowers.

Awwww, that's beautiful!

Do you get off on sarcasm

The Quadratic Equation · 16-12-2011 5:36pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

Do you get off on sarcasm

You'll find that's all many of them have. I really feel sorry for them to be honest.

Ellis Dee · 16-12-2011 5:37pm

Shiner11 wrote: »

What can you say to an atheist at this time of year?
You can't say Merry Christmas as they don't believe in God.
You can't say Merry Xmas because they don't go to mass.

What should you say to them?

I just met a Jewish fellow I know and we chatted for a while. Then he went his way, but not before saying "Merry Christmas" to me, and I said "Happy Hanukah" to him. I'm definitely an atheist and I don't think he's particularly religious, either, but what's the harm in joining in the spirit when most people in the country are getting ready to party?;););)

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 5:37pm

Sarky wrote: »

sandmanporto wrote: »

Id prob top myself actually knowing that ill suffer this illness all my life knowing ill die for nothing.

1. Talk to someone, get help dealing with depression. Just because you're prone to it doesn't mean you have to suffer from it forever.

2. Don't die for nothing. Find something worth doing. It's surprisingly easy once you get over the hurdles depression causes, or the tendancy of religion to make you feel guilty over trivial things. Treasure your friends. Do stuff you like. Have a look at how amazing the world is.

As for Christmas, most people would be in favour of the idea of setting a couple of days aside a year to just chill with friends and family and acknowledge the fact that you're glad they're part of your life with a couple of presents, a few drinks, a nice meal and such. Might as well nick mid-December from the Christians to do it. After all, it's tradition to steal holidays from other cultures for your own purposes...

You are right. Thanks for that :-) you made an effort to post a positive response rather than act a sheep by liking someones sarcastic response to an idividual everyone gangs up on. Shows strength of character when using an anonymous forum

Sarky · 16-12-2011 5:38pm

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

You'll find that's all many of them have. I really feel sorry for them to be honest.

How pathetically disingenuous.

We have irony too.

Oh, and also full, rich, regret-free lives that have nothing to do with imaginary tyrants, but you always forget that bit.

amacachi · 16-12-2011 5:39pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

I remember i had a ex friend who was atheist. He believed when we die we just rot and feed flowers. He had some very shallow and cynical views on life. He depressed the f*ck out of me. He was extremely intelligent but he was one of these people who only cared about himself and didnt care about others. He kinda gave me a very negative attitude towards atheists. I suffer major depression if i were to follow his views i would never feel optimistic. Id prob top myself actually knowing that ill suffer this illness all my life knowing ill die for nothing. I keep my mind open there could be a release after death. That small small bit of hope aided me completely.

I heard about a black guy who killed his ex-wife once. It gave me a very negative attitude towards black people.

Also don't rely on God for redemption when you're suffering by depression, somewhat surprised you haven't realised this. I was very depressed a few years ago, somehow I'm more or less OK now without deluding myself.

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 5:39pm

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

sandmanporto wrote: »

Do you get off on sarcasm

You'll find that's all many of them have. I really feel sorry for them to be honest.

Its pretty sad really.

amacachi · 16-12-2011 5:41pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

Its pretty sad really.

At least now you can't say anything about our condescension without being hypocritical.

robindch · 16-12-2011 5:42pm

amacachi wrote: »

I heard about a black guy who killed his ex-wife once.

Was he able to do it a second time?

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 5:43pm

amacachi wrote: »

sandmanporto wrote: »

I remember i had a ex friend who was atheist. He believed when we die we just rot and feed flowers. He had some very shallow and cynical views on life. He depressed the f*ck out of me. He was extremely intelligent but he was one of these people who only cared about himself and didnt care about others. He kinda gave me a very negative attitude towards atheists. I suffer major depression if i were to follow his views i would never feel optimistic. Id prob top myself actually knowing that ill suffer this illness all my life knowing ill die for nothing. I keep my mind open there could be a release after death. That small small bit of hope aided me completely.

I heard about a black guy who killed his ex-wife once. It gave me a very negative attitude towards black people.

Also don't rely on God for redemption when you're suffering by depression, somewhat surprised you haven't realised this. I was very depressed a few years ago, somehow I'm more or less OK now without deluding myself.

I dont deny or believe anything! Like i said

Dades · 16-12-2011 5:43pm

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

You'll find that's all many of them have. I really feel sorry for them to be honest.

Says Mr-Drop-In-And-Out-Of-Threads-Leaving-One-Liners.

sandmanporto - don't be misled by The Quadratic Equation or the occasional response you don't like into flash generalisations.

Sarky · 16-12-2011 5:44pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

You are right. Thanks for that :-) you made an effort to post a positive response rather than act a sheep by liking someones sarcastic response to an idividual everyone gangs up on. Shows strength of character when using an anonymous forum

I'd say the reason for the sarcasm is that people who generally start a thread like this tend to be the religious sort of chap who, to mix metaphors, can't understand why someone who doesn't collect invisible stamps like they do still manage to enjoy this time of year without having to fall on their knees and grovel before an imaginary invisible psychotic tyrant.

They probably don't mean any harm. Being constantly called the living dead or told that there's somehow a massive hole in our lives because bible blahblahblah tends to result in a certain jaded cynicism.

I'd blame the religious folk myself. After all, it's all they have really...

amacachi · 16-12-2011 5:45pm

robindch wrote: »

Was he able to do it a second time?

Well he didn't go to prison and has another ex-wife so I'm sure he could.

Galvasean · 16-12-2011 5:46pm

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

You'll find that's all many of them have. I really feel sorry for them to be honest.

I feel sorry for you for different reasons.

iguana · 16-12-2011 5:47pm

Jimoslimos wrote: »

What do you say when you want to meet them on a Thursday?

Avengers Assemble!

sensibleken · 16-12-2011 5:47pm

Christmas day sucks anyway. St Stephens days where its at. Me and buddies of mine will be honouring the tradition of 'chasing the wren' because we get to dress up in wicker bull heads and play trad music.

not us but it gives you an idea

EDIT: Oh, if anyone knows anyone who looks like Brit Ekland and can effect a scottish accent, pm me.

no reason.

Jimoslimos · 16-12-2011 5:49pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

Do you get off on sarcasm

I wasn't (there was no :rolleyes: anyway)

I genuinely believe that was a beautiful way of looking at death, circle of life and all that.

16-12-2011 9:54pm

i didn't think he was being sarcastic, feeding the flowers sounds nice

but now (omg sarcasm) i suppose flowers aren't to be thought of as wonderful unless they're being used as an "aren't flowers pretty? therefore god exists" argument

strobe · 17-12-2011 12:12am

sandmanporto wrote: »

Do you decorate a tree; buy gifts for your kids; have a traditional meal at Christmas? If not don't you think it's unfair your kids are missinh out because of your views?

sandmanporto wrote: »

Right. Nobody really anwsered and regardless whether you are vegan or haven't got kids I was speaking hypothetically. Im agnostic by the way but I enjoy the holiday. Having one day off a year like xmas is nice and very warm. Why abolish it? What would you replace it with?

You didn't actually read any of the thread before posting did you?

Why would you do that man? For the love of God why!? WHY!? It stars Bruce Willis, so ye know it's gonna be good.

Read the thread Sandy... read the thread.

(Maybe you confused this thread with the one over in the Christianity forum containing Christians saying they don't decorate tress or buy gifts? Easy mistake to make, easily done. But I have to warn you, their thread does not star Bruce Willis. There could be one of the Baldwin brothers in there somewhere maybe, I haven't really checked yet, but even if there is, no Baldwin brother ever abseiled down Nakatomi Plaza with a fire hose... That we can all agree on...)

Dades · 17-12-2011 12:31am

Phew - strobe's here.

MrPudding · 04-11-2012 3:06pm

A little later than last year, and please forgive the resurrection of an oldie, but I think it is a useful one to have around for the season that's in it.

MrP

ShooterSF · 04-11-2012 3:21pm

Ah it's that time of year already? Best get planning the 12 pubs route so and prepare my poor liver.

Turtwig · 04-11-2012 4:18pm

God damn atheists showing no respect for other people's belief. What does it matter to you if people believe in Christmas? Jesus Christ was a great guy, he's the heart and soul of Christmas and if you guys celebrate Christmas then you guys are, like it or not, celebrating the birth of Jesus. I think that's fair too because otherwise if you don't believe in Jesus then you're not entitled to celebrate Christmas. Make up your own silly non belief festival.

04-11-2012 4:20pm

Well if you don't believe in religion I bet you NEVER WANT ANY TIME OFF!
ha! see! I win! You're all secretly religious!

Turtwig · 04-11-2012 4:50pm

Well said Mr Blue. Deep down everyone believes, its just they're egos closes they're heart off to God. But He will always remains to open to them. I shall pray for those lost souls at Christmas.

04-11-2012 4:53pm

I am glad I found god because if I did not have god I would be off killing everyone I didn't like and breaking the law and that's why I have morals.

MrPudding · 04-11-2012 5:13pm

Personally I don't believe in god so I can can get on with my rapin' and killin'. It has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't make any sense. Besides, everyone knows whether or not you believe in something is a conscious decision that you make and has nothing to do with evidence.

I plan to spend my Christmas same as usual. Hypocritically buying thoughtful gifts for my family and friends, feeding 15 people on Christmas day, watching the Great Escape and Die Hard and generally enjoying not being at work. Oh, and rapin' and killin'... obviously.

MrP

General Relativity · 04-11-2012 7:08pm

The only evidence I need of Jesus is the love in my heart.

eviltwin · 04-11-2012 8:24pm

Christmas to me is about time off work, family being home, the one time of the year I relax my diet/exercise and let myself go, catching up on friends I don't see often, a few parties, treating myself to something nice, a few lie ins, having a laugh.

I don't believe in God so I don't go in for the religious side of things.

Calibos · 04-11-2012 8:30pm

I was just reading my recipe book there and there were some great tips to prevent a dry baby.

Apparently, one makes a small incision along the spine,
inserts ones fingers,
then using ones finger one carefully separates the skin from the flesh underneath.
Next, get some butter and seasoning and spread it around between the flesh and skin.
Then, pack the abdominal cavity with some crushed garlic cloves and several whole onions befpre covering in tin foil and placing in the oven.
Btw, don't throw out the baby giblets, they make a lovely gravy!!

Sarky · 04-11-2012 8:32pm

With enough left over for a nice baby curry on the 26th?

strobe · 05-11-2012 12:16am

eviltwin wrote: »

Christmas to me is about time off work, family being home, the one time of the year I relax my diet/exercise and let myself go, catching up on friends I don't see often, a few parties, treating myself to something nice, a few lie ins, having a laugh.

I don't believe in God so I don't go in for the religious side of things.

A Catholic so, is it?

Nodin · 05-11-2012 9:04am

...they're stealing it earlier every year.

I often blame the 'magic' not being there at Christmas anymore on age, but its also occurred to me that as I got older, I drank less and less....

General Relativity wrote: »

The only evidence I need of Jesus is the love in my heart.

.......lovely. Well you've certainly swayed me.

PopePalpatine · 05-11-2012 9:57am

DEY DURK URR JERBS CHRISTMAS!

Penn · 05-11-2012 10:37am

General Relativity wrote: »

The only evidence I need of Jesus is the love in my heart.

The only evidence I need of Dracula is the blood in my heart.

MrPudding · 05-11-2012 10:54am

Penn wrote: »

The only evidence I need of Dracula is the blood in my heart blood pumping organ.

FYP to remove any possible confusion that you were referring to the mystical organ in a similar position to your blood pumping organ which can apparent see, feel and needs to be opened for us to live correctly.:eek:

Filthy atheists stealing our Christmas

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