Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

hopeso · 15-09-2019 10:04pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Jaysus I have enough machinery:D

A lad I know cuts a bit with a drum mower and collects the grass with a loader into a trailer into a few animals.

And he'll probably continue to do so, when he gets the price of that yoke..... :eek::D

Reggie. · 15-09-2019 11:24pm

hopeso wrote: »

And he'll probably continue to do so, when he gets the price of that yoke..... :eek::D

Machinery is gone to be a mad price

dohc turbo2 · 16-09-2019 8:13am

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Jaysus I have enough machinery:D

A lad I know cuts a bit with a drum mower and collects the grass with a loader into a trailer into a few animals.

Did u ever pass the lad cutting out near the old dump ? Around the bad bends. In lyre that is

Buford T. Justice XIX · 16-09-2019 9:19am

dohc turbo2 wrote: »

Did u ever pass the lad cutting out near the old dump ? Around the bad bends. In lyre that is

No, never came across him. Haven't been in Lyre with years though.

White Clover · 16-09-2019 10:49am

dohc turbo2 wrote: »

Did u ever pass the lad cutting out near the old dump ? Around the bad bends. In lyre that is

What is he using? I haven't travelled that way in 12 months or so. is that the lad below the road? Tidy operation there by looks of it.

dohc turbo2 · 16-09-2019 12:52pm

White Clover wrote: »

What is he using? I haven't travelled that way in 12 months or so. is that the lad below the road? Tidy operation there by looks of it.

That’s savage ur thinking off big dairy lad , it’s over another bit , u would see a heap of wheel barrows at the gate old lad cuts with the scythe draws in the grass and brings out the dung spreads by hand , and fertiliser is put out with the bucket, has a few milking cows ud never see them out much

funkey_monkey · 16-09-2019 1:01pm

Anyone know what you'd be needing for a 16ft tractor drawn livestock trailer? Demountable and/or fixed.

Tileman · 16-09-2019 4:12pm

Thinking of buying a hedge cutter up north.
Contractor gone too dear and spending a 1k a year on cutting heshe’s is too much. He usually doesn’t come until November and the land is wet .
Priced one up north and it’s good value but the vat 20% is making it dear.
Not vat registered. Any way around it

Reggie. · 16-09-2019 4:27pm

Tileman wrote: »

Thinking of buying a hedge cutter up north.
Contractor gone too dear and spending a 1k a year on cutting heshe’s is too much. He usually doesn’t come until November and the land is wet .
Priced one up north and it’s good value but the vat 20% is making it dear.
Not vat registered. Any way around it

Can be abit of maintenance to a hedgecutter so make sure you buy a decent one

Tileman · 16-09-2019 4:41pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Can be abit of maintenance to a hedgecutter so make sure you buy a decent one

Yea it’s a good fresh one. Anything in particular to look out for

Reggie. · 16-09-2019 9:43pm

Tileman wrote: »

Yea it’s a good fresh one. Anything in particular to look out for

Dont really know myself. Was thinking of getting one but the maintenance is unreal but so is a mower I suppose.

Attie Ross · 16-09-2019 10:17pm

Tileman wrote: »

Yea it’s a good fresh one. Anything in particular to look out for

I would recommended one with independent hydraulics make sure the pump is tightly fitted to the frame and oil is in good nick. Next make sure all brushing's are tight run your eye on all the frames make sure everything is straight. The head watch the roter is straight and not unbalanced and bearings are tight, the head gets the most of the beating people using it to cut trees. The t fails are best for cutting hedges.
I have a spearhead that hinges on a frame and it's a pig to put on especially if you're on your own.
My machine is aged and can't reverse roter which I'd like to be able to do.
Make sure to keep the fails sharp,need to be checked as the bolts come lose and need to be tightened up.
Good luck on your quest.

maidhc · 16-09-2019 10:32pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Can be abit of maintenance to a hedgecutter so make sure you buy a decent one

They aren't that bad. I bought a (very) old McConnell PA24 5/6 years ago up the side of a mountain and it works the finest. I re bushed the rotor a few years back, but that is about the sum total of it. Handy thing to have.

Reggie. · 17-09-2019 9:26am

maidhc wrote: »

They aren't that bad. I bought a (very) old McConnell PA24 5/6 years ago up the side of a mountain and it works the finest. I re bushed the rotor a few years back, but that is about the sum total of it. Handy thing to have.

Good to know

Muckit · 17-09-2019 10:00pm

Couldn't see you putting a hedge cutter on your tractor!!!

You'd have to buy a tractor/hedgecutter setup but then you'd probably start tipping up "the bad tractor"!

Reggie. · 17-09-2019 10:08pm

Muckit wrote: »

Couldn't see you putting a hedge cutter on your tractor!!!

You'd have to buy a tractor/hedgecutter setup but then you'd probably start tipping up "the bad tractor"!

Thought crossed my mind

Albert Johnson · 17-09-2019 10:11pm

I think I've mentioned this before but what are lad's opinions on double verses tri axle in a 12" foot cattle trailer?. I was pricing trailers today at the ploughing and they (sales reps) all seemed against going for the tri axle despite the fact that some of them manufacturer and sell tri axle 12" trailers. In my mind it would be a steadier trailer but perhaps it's over kill, I've always wanted to buy a 12" Porter trailer but the supposed waiting list is putting me off, I'm not in a huge panic but would prefer to get it bought and be using it at the same time. A 12" Nugent with a tank and chequer plate mudguards caught my eye, the option of finance is another bonus tbh. My current trailer is doing the job the finest atm but I'm leaning towards buying new.

cjpm · 17-09-2019 10:11pm

maidhc wrote: »

They aren't that bad. I bought a (very) old McConnell PA24 5/6 years ago up the side of a mountain and it works the finest. I re bushed the rotor a few years back, but that is about the sum total of it. Handy thing to have.

Have an old Bomford FarmTrim here. Very little goes wrong with it in fairness. Bought for handy money about 20 years ago, and has done all the hedging here since.

visatorro · 17-09-2019 10:17pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I think I've mentioned this before but what are lad's opinions on double verses tri axle in a 12" foot cattle trailer?. I was pricing trailers today at the ploughing and they (sales reps) all seemed against going for the tri axle despite the fact that some of them manufacturer and sell tri axle 12" trailers. In my mind it would be a steadier trailer but perhaps it's over kill, I've always wanted to buy a 12" Porter trailer but the supposed waiting list is putting me off, I'm not in a huge panic but would prefer to get it bought and be using it at the same time. A 12" Nugent with a tank and chequer plate mudguards caught my eye, the option of finance is another bonus tbh. My current trailer is doing the job the finest atm but I'm leaning towards buying new.

No need for three axle on twelve foot trailer I'd imagine

mayota · 17-09-2019 10:19pm

visatorro wrote: »

No need for three axle on twelve foot trailer I'd imagine

Less payload also.

GrasstoMilk · 18-09-2019 8:46am

Myself and another lad are doing the macra safe driving tractor test today at the ploughing today.
From what I gather it involves loading and unloading wrapped bales onto a flat trailer and reversing/driving that trailer around a course.

I did it myself 2 years ago in tullamore but they never gave any feed back at the end as to what things I did/didnt do or mistakes I made which is a bit silly I thought.

Any way, anyone any tips for me?

funkey_monkey · 18-09-2019 10:08am

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I think I've mentioned this before but what are lad's opinions on double verses tri axle in a 12" foot cattle trailer?. I was pricing trailers today at the ploughing and they (sales reps) all seemed against going for the tri axle despite the fact that some of them manufacturer and sell tri axle 12" trailers. In my mind it would be a steadier trailer but perhaps it's over kill, I've always wanted to buy a 12" Porter trailer but the supposed waiting list is putting me off, I'm not in a huge panic but would prefer to get it bought and be using it at the same time. A 12" Nugent with a tank and chequer plate mudguards caught my eye, the option of finance is another bonus tbh. My current trailer is doing the job the finest atm but I'm leaning towards buying new.

I've used a Tri axle 12ft albeit with the under slung wheels and it was a night mare.
The underslung wheels make it very unstable and prone to wobbles. I see you are going for it side wheels which are vastly better in terms of stability and road manners.
Another issue with the Tri axle was when loaded it had a tendancy to push on straight when turning into a corner.

You certainly would not need Tri axle on 12ft if opting for the large wheels imo.

davidk1394 · 18-09-2019 10:48am

Anyone on here have a Lynch bale trailer ? I was looking at them at the plougand I liked their design.

Keep Sluicing · 18-09-2019 10:53am

davidk1394 wrote: »

Anyone on here have a Lynch bale trailer ? I was looking at them at the plougand I liked their design.

There's a guy in tipp/kilkenny area on twitter (i think hes here too)bought a new lynch bale trailer last year. He seems very happy with it.

2 contractors in my locality have them too, look well, good design and haven't had any problems.

wrangler · 18-09-2019 10:57am

davidk1394 wrote: »

Anyone on here have a Lynch bale trailer ? I was looking at them at the plougand I liked their design.

A neighbour here is converting artic trailers.....supposed to be good value, might be worth looking at, He's selling a lot of them.

https://www.donedeal.ie/silagetrailers-for-sale/28ft-bale-trailer/22866032

cjpm · 18-09-2019 11:10am

Neighbours here has a Lynch cattle trailer. Sussed out all the makes and decided that Lynch's was the best.

bogman_bass · 18-09-2019 6:40pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Myself and another lad are doing the macra safe driving tractor test today at the ploughing today.
From what I gather it involves loading and unloading wrapped bales onto a flat trailer and reversing/driving that trailer around a course.

I did it myself 2 years ago in tullamore but they never gave any feed back at the end as to what things I did/didnt do or mistakes I made which is a bit silly I thought.

Any way, anyone any tips for me?

I was doing it today too. Bit late now but safety trumps speed every time in those competitions.

bogman_bass · 18-09-2019 6:42pm

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

davidk1394 wrote: »

Anyone on here have a Lynch bale trailer ? I was looking at them at the plougand I liked their design.

There's a guy in tipp/kilkenny area on twitter (i think hes here too)bought a new lynch bale trailer last year. He seems very happy with it.

2 contractors in my locality have them too, look well, good design and haven't had any problems.

Spent a day working with one. A well built machine. If anything too well made as it’s fairly heavy

Waffletraktor · 18-09-2019 8:05pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

Anyone on here have a Lynch bale trailer ? I was looking at them at the plougand I liked their design.

If do go down that road get one you can run a cattle box on for versatility.

GrasstoMilk · 18-09-2019 9:26pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

I was doing it today too. Bit late now but safety trumps speed every time in those competitions.

Did it after, speed was one thing. Did it in 4.30 best team did it in 3.30.
Vexed though, the guy from frs said I never looked over my shoulders and I never seen the 2 lads walking behind me. Complete bull, looked behind my shoulders before I reversed back every time.
The 2 lads were directly behind the tractor at different stages and he said I never saw them, I was looking directly at them and never moved!

cute geoge · 18-09-2019 10:41pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/on-site-pics-machinery-hauled-parked-and-ready-for-ploughing-2019/#lg=1&slide=49

Out of curiosity, if anyone is going to the ploughing and come across the mini zero grazer shown above, I'd appreciate if you could get a ballpark price on it?

I have a neighbour looking for something like that for a while.

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Jaysus I have enough machinery:D

A lad I know cuts a bit with a drum mower and collects the grass with a loader into a trailer into a few animals.

hopeso wrote: »

And he'll probably continue to do so, when he gets the price of that yoke..... :eek::D

Reggie. wrote: »

Machinery is gone to be a mad price

I hope ye are sitting down!!!
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/mini-grazer-grabs-attention-at-ploughing-494859

Donald Trump · 18-09-2019 10:58pm

wrangler wrote: »

A neighbour here is converting artic trailers.....supposed to be good value, might be worth looking at, He's selling a lot of them.

https://www.donedeal.ie/silagetrailers-for-sale/28ft-bale-trailer/22866032

Are they plated? For the road regulations I mean.

wrangler · 18-09-2019 11:10pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

Are they plated? For the road regulations I mean.

I wouldn't know, they're selling anyway

Reggie. · 18-09-2019 11:13pm

cute geoge wrote: »

I hope ye are sitting down!!!
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/mini-grazer-grabs-attention-at-ploughing-494859

They can keep it

Reggie. · 18-09-2019 11:14pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

Are they plated? For the road regulations I mean.

They are RSA compliant alright just not finished too well

Lime Tree Farm · 18-09-2019 11:43pm

Waffletraktor wrote: »

If do go down that road get one you can run a cattle box on for versatility.

I am very interested in your comment Is it possible to cover for both, bales and cattle in the one

Waffletraktor · 19-09-2019 12:52am

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

I am very interested in your comment Is it possible to cover for both, bales and cattle in the one

Most bale trailers around here these days are on those 425mm?? wide mini super single type tyre so are 3-4ft high max so can go with 3 high big hestons happily. Can get a pair of aluminium ramps that will hold 8ton each for moving telehandlers/smaller equipment about. Demount cattle/sheep (Fold up sides like on a ifor for 2 decks) float for hauling stock about. Pic of one we'd borrowed from our straw guy, one of the ramps off the end sh!ts and giggles.
Stewarts for example- https://www.stewart-trailers.co.uk/products/livestock-floats

wrangler · 19-09-2019 6:56am

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

I am very interested in your comment Is it possible to cover for both, bales and cattle in the one

There was a fine trailer at the ploughing last year lift off cattle body and hydraulic ramps at the back for machinery,,,,,,,,, something like €26000 + vat
Can't just find it now, but here's an example
https://herbstmachinery.com/product/livestock-trailer/

bogman_bass · 19-09-2019 7:07am

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

bogman_bass wrote: »

I was doing it today too. Bit late now but safety trumps speed every time in those competitions.

Did it after, speed was one thing. Did it in 4.30 best team did it in 3.30.
Vexed though, the guy from frs said I never looked over my shoulders and I never seen the 2 lads walking behind me. Complete bull, looked behind my shoulders before I reversed back every time.
The 2 lads were directly behind the tractor at different stages and he said I never saw them, I was looking directly at them and never moved!

I take it you were on the loader so.

We’re you looking as you moved rather than looking then moving. I know I was guilty of that a couple of times.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-09-2019 8:21am

cute geoge wrote: »

I hope ye are sitting down!!!
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/mini-grazer-grabs-attention-at-ploughing-494859

Jaysus!:eek:

The mower, loader and trailer looks very economical now.

Lime Tree Farm · 19-09-2019 8:55am

Thanks Waffletraktor and Wrangler for replies. Definitely worth knowing about and investigating further.. Got this link for a start.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/novel-3-in-1-trailer-launched-at-the-ploughing/

Reggie. · 19-09-2019 10:44pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Thanks Waffletraktor and Wrangler for replies. Definitely worth knowing about and investigating further.. Got this link for a start.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/novel-3-in-1-trailer-launched-at-the-ploughing/

Think that trailer is a fair cost

Lime Tree Farm · 19-09-2019 11:05pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Think that trailer is a fair cost

I didn’t know such thing was available. Couldn’t justify spending that amount, but think it is a well thought out design.

hopeso · 19-09-2019 11:58pm

Did anyone notice the new offset topper from Major at the ploughing? It folds up like a mounted mower... Something new that I wasn’t expecting to see...

wrangler · 20-09-2019 7:08am

Reggie. wrote: »

Think that trailer is a fair cost

Price is on the article, 23000+ vat.
Having a bale trailer cluttering up the yard for a few runs in the year is messy, dual purpose is a good idea
I've seen guys in england with old lorry bodies on lowloaders and an irish guy in france that had a cattle body on his lowloader that could be lifted off with a teleporter.
Loads of options but might be too messy for you............or me

Reggie. · 20-09-2019 7:50am

wrangler wrote: »

Price is on the article, 23000+ vat.
Having a bale trailer cluttering up the yard for a few runs in the year is messy, dual purpose is a good idea
I've seen guys in england with old lorry bodies on lowloaders and an irish guy in france that had a cattle body on his lowloader that could be lifted off with a teleporter.
Loads of options but might be too messy for you............or me

Not to easy to get the cattle body on and not many lads have teleporters

davidk1394 · 20-09-2019 9:23am

The slurrykat bale trailer with hydraulic sides is 20k + vat

Lime Tree Farm · 20-09-2019 9:31am

Reggie. wrote: »

Not to easy to get the cattle body on and not many lads have teleporters

Reggie, Are you referring to the A&W trailer in particular here, or to other makes.

What I liked about the A&W trailer, from reading the article was :
"According to A&W Engineering, the unit can be attached and removed with “ease”. When not in use, the livestock body sits on special legs. To mount the unit, the low-loader can simply be reversed in underneath – and then secured using the twist locks.

To remove the unit, the legs must first be re-attached. The bed of the trailer can then drop – to create 150mm of clearance (enabling the trailer to be driven away)".

wrangler · 20-09-2019 9:54am

Reggie. wrote: »

Not to easy to get the cattle body on and not many lads have teleporters

Lads do it on lorries all the time even without a loader, I was in the west of Ireland last weeek and saw a couple of bodies up on ''stilts'' The guy in france seemed to like making things, his low loader was capable of carrying three tractors

Panch18 · 20-09-2019 9:55am

davidk1394 wrote: »

The slurrykat bale trailer with hydraulic sides is 20k + vat

For what length?

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