Insufferable beer snobs.

Neon_Lights · 22-07-2020 12:15am

Murphy's > Guinness

22-07-2020 12:24am

MrMusician18 wrote: »

So you has a Guinness that was slightly off and you thought it tasted better. Doesn't say much for the drink tbh.

For some solid 24k gold Guinness BS, see video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKbVwv6yMOs

You won't get any arguments from me about the horseshít in that Guinness ad.

No, as regards my mate's dad not cleaning the taps, I think it's a bit like the way everyone knows toasted-cheese sandwiches taste better when you don't clean the sandwich maker. I don't know why this is, it's just science.

I Am Nobody · 22-07-2020 12:29am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

You won't get any arguments from me about the horseshít in that Guinness ad.

No, as regards my mate's dad not cleaning the taps, I think it's a bit like the way everyone knows toasted-cheese sandwiches taste better when you don't clean the sandwich maker. I don't know why this is, it's just science.

I have my own draught system in my shed,and you always have to clean the lines and tap.Otherwise the drink tastes off.Plus you don't know what ****e your drinking with the lager.If your pint tastes off then thats why.

chrissb8 · 22-07-2020 1:21am

Only once ever came across a beer snob, I was working in an offy and he thought I would be dead interested to hear his favourite beers. He was alright, nice but just oblivious to the "uh huh" "yeah" "oh cool" responses.

Even worse though...I love a few craft beers sometimes and I've had people say it's a waste of money. All the same thing etc etc. It's not, and you wouldn't say that about food or wine would you.

Quality ingredients, quality brewing techniques = a great beer. Germany even made laws about this and you can taste that difference. I've never had a more wicked hangover off beer then when I've got drunk on Heineken.

I would gladly spend 2 euro more to get something I know I'd like, but yeah, stouts, only one choice and that's Guinness.

Hulk Hands · 22-07-2020 1:29am

HBC08 wrote: »

Every single line of that post is boll0cks.

So the two part pour is genuinely needed then? Funny you thanked a post refuting that. Being warmer would help a pint more than being colder? Sure maybe you know more about Diageos inner workings, driving Kia's around shiitholes in Mayo

An Ri rua · 22-07-2020 1:31am

MrMusician18 wrote: »

To be fair to this lad he was probably told to push their own stout as it naturally would have a much much higher margin.

Some microbreweries do suffer from a lack of consistency in quality, you will occasionally get one that tastes like feet.

Do you worry about getting verrucas on your tongue?

KungPao · 22-07-2020 1:36am

As a snob I can say that a pint of coo-ers is your only man. Maybe Carlsburg or maybe even Kronenberg 1884 if I’m feeling adventurous.

Rothko · 22-07-2020 1:41am

listermint wrote: »

Love a Guinness myself.

But it tastes like water OP.

lalababa · 22-07-2020 2:04am

I find once you have a few good ales or IPAs you'd run a mile from the heni/Carl's/Coors/harp/bud etc. But everyone to their own. I like Guinness and it was my default for 25 years. I like a good larger, but not what you'd get on tap in Ireland.
Beer snobs..yeah few and far between...there are more people complaining bout beer snobs than actual snobs.
I homebrew with the natural base ingredients. I've also got a ponytail and
Wait a minute ......

Squeeonline · 22-07-2020 7:12am

MrMusician18 wrote: »

To be fair to this lad he was probably told to push their own stout as it naturally would have a much much higher margin.

Some microbreweries do suffer from a lack of consistency in quality, you will occasionally get one that tastes like feet.

Happens with big beers too. I've had gone-off lagers, rotten Guiness. Usually it's the pipes/pub to blame and craft beers are no exception.

I am one of these craft beer snobs (though not the worst). I love a crispy dry beer with a meal, but afterwards, I want something rich in flavour. It can be like drinking a dessert.

I'd much rather have 3-4 really nice 330ml beers than a "feed" of 8 watery pints and the scutters that come the next day, but each to their own.

guitarhappy · 22-07-2020 7:37am

I enjoy a Guinness but I'd have to say it's not as good as it was 50 years ago. As for drinking it from a bottle, or especially a can, you can keep that, no thanks.

I would like to drink more beer, with friends socially, but I live in a legal cannabis area and drinking isn't so much in fashion anymore.

L1011 · 22-07-2020 7:53am

Guinness drinkers probably have the most mythology and bolloxology of any beer drinkers at all. That's where you'll find your large group of beer snobs to aim at.

guitarhappy · 22-07-2020 9:07am

L1011 wrote: »

Guinness drinkers probably have the most mythology and bolloxology of any beer drinkers at all. That's where you'll find your large group of beer snobs to aim at.

Are you sure you're not thinking of Heineken drinkers? I think there's data on that in the International Journal of Beer Mythology and Bolloxology.

Lewis_Benson · 22-07-2020 9:20am

L1011 wrote: »

Guinness drinkers probably have the most mythology and bolloxology of any beer drinkers at all. That's where you'll find your large group of beer snobs to aim at.

Yep, thinking Guinness is some sort of holy grail and cannot be spoken negatively about.

It ain't irish anymore, thats for sure.

murpho999 · 22-07-2020 9:55am

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

Yep, thinking Guinness is some sort of holy grail and cannot be spoken negatively about.

It ain't irish anymore, thats for sure.

Ah this nugget.

Guinness is brewed and crafted in Dublin and shipped worldwide from there.

So you're going to come back with Diageo, wel that's just modern day business. Plenty of companies have foreign ownership. Penneys being another one.

I don't get why a successful product gets so much criticism just because you most likely don't like the taste.

frag420 · 22-07-2020 10:01am

Zebra3 wrote: »

Question for Guinness drinkers.

What does Guinness taste like?

Fizzy coffee that's been filtered through a tramps sweaty sock...

jimgoose · 22-07-2020 10:03am

s8n wrote: »

you sound like quite the connoisseur. Just the 8 was it ??

A good pint of Guinness is like a Bourbon Cream. Two bites.

@JF I had a gallon of pure cream in a hotel in Kenmare lately, luckily enough there was no tattooed beardo pushing some rhinoceros piss. :pac:

CrankyHaus · 22-07-2020 10:13am

I'm not that bothered with a lot of the craft beer craze, and obviously there's a fair bit of gouging for hyped-up muck associated with it, but you can't deny that it's forced everyone to up their game with drinks. Most pubs you'll get better choice and better pints than you would have only ten years ago, definitely 20 years ago. When you consider that in the early 2000s Alcopops were the big new thing, and ****e like fat frogs and double vodka and redbulls, I think it's fair the say we have it pretty cushy nowadays.

Omackeral · 22-07-2020 10:29am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

'No you're grand, dude', I answered back.

You should’ve been fcuked out there and then.

theteal · 22-07-2020 10:38am

Is it just the insufferable ones we're aiming ire at today?

I can freely admit that I fall into the "beer snob" category but I'm self aware enough not to harp on about it (is that a pun?). I really like rambling off around the UK countryside, finding little pubs and seeing what strange stuff they've got on tap. Granted, if it's muck it's muck but jayzis life would be boring sticking to the same order all the time. I thought Ireland had moved away from the old "I'm a [insert big brand name] drinker" kind of thing.

At the end of the day, people have different tastes. While I may be in the category, they can shove their ultra hoppy IPAs, I just can't take to them. My beer needs to be dark, preferably red in colour and not necessarily cold but I'll venture into stout-town come winter time.

I can agree that the server guy in the OP's experience probably didn't play it too well but the OP was judging the guy on his appearance from the outset so I think the interaction was doomed before it started.

Also just to note, Guinness is the Budweiser of stouts. . . .(but I occasionally have one to keep a round order simple, Guinness not Bud, never Bud)

GLaDOS · 22-07-2020 10:47am

OP seems triggered

Bandana boy · 22-07-2020 10:51am

imagine being upset at more choice when going for a drink !
imagine being upset that somebody likes a different or more complex taste in their beer .

Bet that lad insisted on telling you the specials in the restaurant that evening too, the bastard

suicide_circus · 22-07-2020 10:55am

i dont want a barman/waiter to offer me things when i've already told them what i want. Just pour the f*cking pint, chief.

c.p.w.g.w · 22-07-2020 10:55am

Typically craft beers are produced by small locally run businesses...I have visited a few over the years, the one thing I get from them...is that it's a passion of theirs...the owners work in the brewery and know all the staff...I enjoy craft beer as well as mass produced beer...

I find that all the folks who wax lyrical on the negative side of craft beers, are the sort of folks who hammer down 8 pints...also couldn't discribe the flavour of one larger or stout

gourcuff · 22-07-2020 11:03am

Really enjoy Craft beer myself, it sells very well in supermarkets and off licences so clearly people must like the taste and variety of it.

If you want to only drink Guinness thats fine, but dont see the problem with people liking some variety, or trying out a local beer in Ireland like you would anywhere in Europe.

Never had anyone push a particular craft beer on me either..

Oranage2 · 22-07-2020 11:10am

After drinking a nice full flavored hoppy IPA that's infused with hints of grapefruit and coriander, larger just tastes like sh/t. I don't know how people can shovel pints of crap down their mouths

jimgoose · 22-07-2020 11:12am

Oranage2 wrote: »

After drinking a nice full flavored hoppy IPA that's infused with hints of grapefruit and coriander, larger just tastes like sh/t. I don't know how people can shovel pints of crap down their mouths

Are you saying "lager" in a severe Essex accent, or is that a typo? Anyway, if I wanted a fruit salad 'tisn't a pint I'd be ordering!

Royale with Cheese · 22-07-2020 11:31am

Oranage2 wrote: »

After drinking a nice full flavored hoppy IPA that's infused with hints of grapefruit and coriander, larger just tastes like sh/t. I don't know how people can shovel pints of crap down their mouths

Lager and IPA are two completely different drinks, I don't know why people compare the two.

Lewis_Benson · 22-07-2020 11:38am

murpho999 wrote: »

Ah this nugget.

Guinness is brewed and crafted in Dublin and shipped worldwide from there.

So you're going to come back with Diageo, wel that's just modern day business. Plenty of company's have foreign ownership. Penneys being another one.

I don't get why a successful product gets so much criticism just because you most likely don't like the taste.

Indeed it is (modern day business).

For the record i like Guinness.

BraveDonut · 22-07-2020 11:41am

I drink Heineken, Guinness and Craft ales - whatever the humour takes me.
I get laughed at by some friends for drinking "wanker" beers.....

I will drink what I like - the opinion of others does not bother me

22-07-2020 11:48am

saabsaab wrote: »

As to what does Guinness tastes like - It depends.

Any Guinness drinkers I know say it changes from place to place and even pub to pub! They claim that one pub serves a 'bad' pint and another a good one!

How can this be?

Poor hygiene standards, not washing out pipes, barrels kept at incorrect temperatures. Even layout of the pub can have an effect. If the cellar is too far from the tap, it warms up en route.

Any of these will result in a bad pint. That in itself can have a cumulative effect whereby a pub that serves bad pints, people don't drink as many of them so it takes longer to empty the barrel and it goes stale.

Meanwhile, a pub that serves a good pint, people drink lots more, barrels get refreshed more often so its always fresh.

22-07-2020 11:51am

Guinness tastes like a watery ashtray before you get used to it

Squeeonline · 22-07-2020 11:53am

"I was in France and walked into a Wine bar. This onion wearing, Gauloise smoking waiter took my order. I asked for a dozen oysters and a bottle of their cheapest californian wine. The waiter suggested that they have far nicer French wines available, but I was firm and wanted my Californian red.

"The waiter offered that I can try a good wine, on the house, and see what I've been missing out on, but I declined, only wanting my californian red. I proceed to drink 8 bottles of the stuff. What is wrong with the French and their wines? Can't they see that I just my plonk and don't want any of their fancy award winning stuff. How dare they?"

jimgoose · 22-07-2020 11:55am

Deleted User wrote: »

Guinness tastes like a watery ashtray before you get used to it

I wouldn't go quite that far, but it is an acquired taste. I drank it for thirty years, and then when I gave up smoking about three years ago I went off it to a large extent. I mostly drink Carlsberg now, the Ford Focus 1.6 TDCi of beer, although I do love a few pints of Guinness now and then.

I also enjoy various craft stouts and ales - the Crane Lane here in Cork serves a lovely chocolatey stout quite unlike the usual ones, and yet eerily similar.

jimgoose · 22-07-2020 11:57am

Squeeonline wrote: »

"I was in France and walked into a Wine bar. This onion wearing, Gauloise smoking waiter took my order. I asked for a dozen oysters and a bottle of their cheapest californian wine. The waiter suggested that they have far nicer French wines available, but I was firm and wanted my Californian red.

"The waiter offered that I can try a good wine, on the house, and see what I've been missing out on, but I declined, only wanting my californian red. I proceed to drink 8 bottles of the stuff. What is wrong with the French and their wines? Can't they see that I just my plonk and don't want any of their fancy award winning stuff. How dare they?"

Yes, that's totally the same thing as a fella wanting to enjoy a few pints of Guinness in West Cork and having a concoction pushed on him that he knows full well that, on balance, he probably won't like.

Ush1 · 22-07-2020 11:58am

jimgoose wrote: »

I wouldn't go quite that far, but it is an acquired taste. I drank it for thirty years, and then when I gave up smoking about three years ago I went off it to a large extent. I mostly drink Carlsberg now, the Ford Focus 1.6 TDCi of beer, although I do love a few pints of Guinness now and then.

I also enjoy various craft stouts and ales - the Crane Lane here in Cork serves a lovely chocolatey stout quite unlike the usual ones, and yet eerily similar.

Are you Alan Partridge by any chance?

jimgoose · 22-07-2020 12:01pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Are you Alan Partridge by any chance?

Not on Wednesdays, no. Why?

completedit · 22-07-2020 12:13pm

L1011 wrote: »

Guinness drinkers probably have the most mythology and bolloxology of any beer drinkers at all. That's where you'll find your large group of beer snobs to aim at.

It's just bizarre. Grown men who equate some alright tasting stout with everything it means to be Irish. It's a nice enough drink with an acquired taste. Nothing more insufferable than someone harping on about the black stuff...but maybe I just don't get it.

Rezident · 22-07-2020 12:48pm

currently very trendy for 'craft' beers but its actually quite hard to make one that tastes good. That is why most of them taste dire, often when they go wrong, they just add a load of hops to try to hide the bad flavour.

22-07-2020 1:02pm

Squeeonline wrote: »

"I was in France and walked into a Wine bar. This onion wearing, Gauloise smoking waiter took my order. I asked for a dozen oysters and a bottle of their cheapest californian wine. The waiter suggested that they have far nicer French wines available, but I was firm and wanted my Californian red.

"The waiter offered that I can try a good wine, on the house, and see what I've been missing out on, but I declined, only wanting my californian red. I proceed to drink 8 bottles of the stuff. What is wrong with the French and their wines? Can't they see that I just my plonk and don't want any of their fancy award winning stuff. How dare they?"

Not to be a pain, but surely for consistency it's the waiter who should be pushing the rancid Californian wine, and the customer who should be ordering the local, fairly renowned beverage? Otherwise you're just making up a completely different story.

Squeeonline · 22-07-2020 1:06pm

Rezident wrote: »

currently very trendy for 'craft' beers but its actually quite hard to make one that tastes good. That is why most of them taste dire, often when they go wrong, they just add a load of hops to try to hide the bad flavour.

The hops are the flavour. "oh the chocolate is just there to cover up the cake" It's a chocolate cake.

Many craft beers I've tried are not great, but sometimes there are amazing ones. They are not the kind of beers you grab a six pack of to drink down at the beach or wherever, but beers to enjoy.

Captcha · 22-07-2020 1:06pm

Wicklow Wolf Elevation is lovely but a fecking rip off in cans

Squeeonline · 22-07-2020 1:09pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Not to be a pain, but surely for consistency it's the waiter who should be pushing the rancid Californian wine, and the customer who should be ordering the local, fairly renowned beverage? Otherwise you're just making up a completely different story.

Possibly, but I wasn't putting that much effort into it.

I've never found a craft bar that has pushed a sour beer though unless they know already you like sours.

BraveDonut · 22-07-2020 1:34pm

Captcha wrote: »

Wicklow Wolf Elevation is lovely but a fecking rip off in cans

Totally agree - I used to get it as a 'treat' when in 500ml bottles. Not paying 3.25 for 440ml.

There are usually decent 4 for a tenner offers for other ales

gourcuff · 22-07-2020 1:44pm

Wasn't Guinness funding loyalist terrorists to murder Irish people? hardly an irish hero...

JohnnyFlash · 22-07-2020 1:46pm

Captcha wrote: »

Wicklow Wolf Elevation is lovely but a fecking rip off in cans

They have a lovely red ale called Arcadia that I used to buy bottles of. Now they are change 3.80 for a 440ml can of it.

Thinkingaboutit · 22-07-2020 1:47pm

Eight pints?

Some sort of featherweight?

jimgoose · 22-07-2020 1:48pm

gourcuff wrote: »

Wasn't Guinness funding loyalist terrorists to murder Irish people? hardly an irish hero...

Arthur Guinness was a stalwart Irish Unionist, but I don't think he funded actual terrorists.

22-07-2020 1:49pm

Very few smithwicks drinkers about....it seems

Lewis_Benson · 22-07-2020 1:50pm

Rezident wrote: »

currently very trendy for 'craft' beers but its actually quite hard to make one that tastes good. That is why most of them taste dire, often when they go wrong, they just add a load of hops to try to hide the bad flavour.

Not really, nó.

Insufferable beer snobs.

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