Dublin routes news and general chat

Donegal Storm · 09-05-2019 9:33pm

Good to see, would be a shame to lose the route so soon, especially after it opened to so much fanfare.

Maybe something to do with their new airport which I think is due to open in September

09-05-2019 10:39pm

Donegal Storm wrote: »

Good to see, would be a shame to lose the route so soon, especially after it opened to so much fanfare.

Maybe something to do with their new airport which I think is due to open in September

It was never cancelled. That twitter page works off reading data loaded into travel agent websites I believe. It is HIGHLY likely the winter Hainan schedule hadn’t been loaded at the time they read it.

It is not unusual for them to report multiple changes within a day or two. They quite often tweet info and include a health warning with the tweet.

VG31 · 09-05-2019 10:56pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It was never cancelled. That twitter page works off reading data loaded into travel agent websites I believe. It is HIGHLY likely the winter Hainan schedule hadn’t been loaded at the time they read it.

I'm fairly sure flights were bookable for the winter a while ago. They must have been temporarily removed.

TK Lemon · 12-05-2019 8:14pm

Is the Dublin to Providence route is back up and running in a different aircraft?

Wikipedia seems to suggest that the route is still operating from Dublin but the one from Cork is suspended.

sparrowcar · 12-05-2019 8:20pm

TK Lemon wrote: »

Is the Dublin to Providence route is back up and running in a different aircraft?

Wikipedia seems to suggest that the route is still operating from Dublin but the one from Cork is suspended.

Operated by Norwegian 738 with reduced capacity. Only suspended for a couple of days at the start of the Max groundings.

JCX BXC · 12-05-2019 9:09pm

TK Lemon wrote: »

Is the Dublin to Providence route is back up and running in a different aircraft?

Wikipedia seems to suggest that the route is still operating from Dublin but the one from Cork is suspended.

The DUB-PVD route never stopped, however Cork and Shannon lost their flights, and hence were amalgamated to Dublin. (As much as possible)

Slashermcguirk · 13-05-2019 12:33pm

April numbers +7% for April at Dublin Airport. Really impressive growth continues. I was at the airport Friday and yesterday and it was packed in terminal 2

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/detail/new-april-record-with-2.8-million-passengers

Nijmegen · 13-05-2019 2:16pm

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

April numbers +7% for April at Dublin Airport. Really impressive growth continues. I was at the airport Friday and yesterday and it was packed in terminal 2

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/detail/new-april-record-with-2.8-million-passengers

344,000 passengers to North America. 171,000 connections. It's a safe bet that most connecting passengers are headed to North America, meaning that almost 50% of TATL traffic is now using Dublin as a connecting hub. Amazing.

roadmaster · 13-05-2019 8:53pm

I scanned the fourm and could not find an answer so hopefully i am not going over old ground. The bluebird flight that comes in from iceland every evening is it mainly empty and just here to pick up freight here such as fresh food or would it be bringing in freight as well such as fish ?

Thrashssacre · 14-05-2019 4:39am

Nijmegen wrote: »

344,000 passengers to North America. 171,000 connections. It's a safe bet that most connecting passengers are headed to North America, meaning that almost 50% of TATL traffic is now using Dublin as a connecting hub. Amazing.

Really nice to see that blossoming is it just the precleance that is making this option attractive for people or is Dublin seen as a nicer airport to transfer in by seasoned travelers due to being a lot smaller then a Heathrow or schipol

Nijmegen · 14-05-2019 9:54am

Thrashssacre wrote: »

Really nice to see that blossoming is it just the precleance that is making this option attractive for people or is Dublin seen as a nicer airport to transfer in by seasoned travelers due to being a lot smaller then a Heathrow or schipol

I'd say most people just book on fares and time to be honest. Dublin is an attractive hub for a lot of UK regionals, so for example if I want to fly Birmingham to SFO I can go with EI for 827eur on 21 May vs 983eur for Lufty via Munich. And who wants to be flying over their house on the way home. It seems Delta and KLM are fighting a lot on price via Amsterdam though.

munchkin_utd · 14-05-2019 11:25am

EDIT - was mistaken on the equipment used, its LAX that has the A380 from Munich.

Third_Echelon · 23-05-2019 7:32pm

exaisle wrote: »

Not sure, but it seems like a bit of a gamble to me...

He's here all week folks

trellheim · 24-05-2019 12:21pm

Is the UA 787 economy seats better or worse than the 777 out of Dublin now that they are using 787s

goingnowhere · 24-05-2019 12:27pm

777 could be in US domestic conf which is ugly and could be 10 seats across in the back

787 is likely to be better but seats on 787's are never nice for some reason

VG31 · 24-05-2019 12:31pm

goingnowhere wrote: »

787 is likely to be better but seats on 787's are never nice for some reason

I wouldn't say never. I've heard that Japan Airlines 787s are excellent for comfort. They have them in a 2-4-2 configuration which is unusual.

goingnowhere · 24-05-2019 12:36pm

VG31 wrote: »

I wouldn't say never. I've heard that Japan Airlines 787s are excellent for comfort. They have them in a 2-4-2 configuration which is unusual.

I choose to fly JAL over BA specifically for this reason.

JAL are the outlier, it 2+4+2 with 34 inch pitch in the back is very nice on the way to HND,

Nijmegen · 24-05-2019 2:41pm

787 economy on any airline I've flown it so far (haven't been on JAL or United tho) is a really crap seat. They've gone to all this effort to big up the windows and the cabin pressure, but the amount of punters they're fitting in on those thin seats makes it distinctly unpleasant.

goingnowhere · 24-05-2019 3:20pm

Even the Boeing 787 cabin demonstrator is just the dated 777 interior with bigger windows

777 with UA will most likely be the ugly US domestic config with no entertainment with 10 seats.

VG31 · 25-05-2019 12:37pm

Ryanair are launching a 4x weekly Toulouse service from 27 October.

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/detail/ryanair-announces-new-dublin-toulouse-service

trellheim · 25-05-2019 2:34pm

The reason I ask is that one of the United flights is supposedly gone to 787 this week dub-ewr . I was only on the 777 a few weeks back and it was much comfier than I had thought, stripping out the IFE got a load back as they are all onboard wifi with no screens now.

EICVD · 25-05-2019 2:36pm

trellheim wrote: »

The reason I ask is that one of the United flights is supposedly gone to 787 this week dub-ewr . I was only on the 777 a few weeks back and it was much comfier than I had thought, stripping out the IFE got a load back as they are all onboard wifi with no screens now.

It’s definitely gone from the 777 to the 78X

cson · 25-05-2019 4:33pm

It's the 787-10, DAA are pushing it hard on Twitter at the moment. UA used the domestic config 777 the past 12-18 months as they worked through the Polaris updates to the 777 fleet to the best of my knowledge.

Fwiw having flown the 787 on AA & BA; AA is tolerable if you get a Main Cabin Extra seat, BA is just outright horrific and I would go out of my way to avoid. The A332 is the best Y class aircraft for transatlantic pax imo.

Idbatterim · 09-06-2019 11:46am

Aa have launched their Dallas Fort Worth route and westjet have also launched their Calgary route...

trellheim · 09-06-2019 12:28pm

Any trip reports AA DUB-DFW ?

WishUWereHere · 09-06-2019 1:03pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

Aa have launched their Dallas Fort Worth route and westjet have also launched their Calgary route...

It will be very interesting to see how Dallas pans out. I can see this having the potential to becoming an all-year round flight. I'd be of the opinion that AE missed a trick here.

Tenger · 09-06-2019 1:37pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

It will be very interesting to see how Dallas pans out. I can see this having the potential to becoming an all-year round flight. I'd be of the opinion that AE missed a trick here.

I see your point but had to 'miss a trick' when you dont have the airframes ready.
I believe AA switched their route from NYC to Dallas.
EI could still launch Houston or Austin for 2020/21.

Marcusm · 09-06-2019 3:22pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

It will be very interesting to see how Dallas pans out. I can see this having the potential to becoming an all-year round flight. I'd be of the opinion that AE missed a trick here.

It’shardly A missed trick; EI plans to enter an existing JV with AA, BA, AY and IB for transatlantic flights. This is a full revenue sharing JV meaning EI will be interested in the success of the route without operating it!

Blut2 · 09-06-2019 4:35pm

Marcusm wrote: »

It’shardly A missed trick; EI plans to enter an existing JV with AA, BA, AY and IB for transatlantic flights. This is a full revenue sharing JV meaning EI will be interested in the success of the route without operating it!

Now if we could just get EI miles credited to the AAdvantage program...

Noxegon · 10-06-2019 9:15am

Tenger wrote: »

EI could still launch Houston or Austin for 2020/21.

Austin would be useful.

Nijmegen · 10-06-2019 9:43am

trellheim wrote: »

Any trip reports AA DUB-DFW ?

I haven't done DFW but have flown their 787 TATL. Economy terrible, business good, would like to try premium economy as it's well reviewed on the -9. I wouldn't fly economy on AAs 787 again to be honest unless I was stuck. Then again, on every trip I've made to DFW connecting with United I've been left with delays and one 24 hour stranding in IAD. Connecting in and out of DFW is a nightmare in my experience - lots of ground stops due to weather etc.

cson · 10-06-2019 2:45pm

Main Cabin Extra seats on the 787s are good, regular Y is an ordeal however. That being said that's not unique to AA, pretty much every 787 operator has a terrible standard Y hard product.

ongarboy · 10-06-2019 3:07pm

Noxegon wrote: »

Austin would be useful.

Why useful? While it is the capital of Texas, I would have thought that it is very much a second tier city in the States and can't see how there would be a large flow of two way reciprocal traffic between there and Ireland. I've never heard of Austin having a measurable Irish diaspora either. Just googling Wikipedia, it is only the 30th largest metro area by population

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistical_areas#United_States

If DFW figures exceed expectations, don't be surprised if UA swoop in and add a route from DUB to their hub in Houston in the next year (which interestingly, per the Wikipedia link is the only top 10 most populous metro area in the US that now doesn't have a direct flight to Ireland). Houston is surely on Aer Lingus' shortlist for 2020 US route announcements.

trellheim · 10-06-2019 3:38pm

Austin a considerable Tech hub e.g Intel

California Dreamer · 10-06-2019 4:08pm

trellheim wrote: »

Austin a considerable Tech hub e.g Intel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEig1GkLSMY

;);)

Noxegon · 10-06-2019 7:29pm

ongarboy wrote: »

Why useful?

I have to go there several times a year

FWIW, it is rapidly turning into a technology hub. Just one link:

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.statesman.com/news/20190131/source-google-to-occupy-35-story-office-tower-in-downtown-austin%3ftemplate=ampart

WishUWereHere · 12-06-2019 7:15pm

Was up there every day this week ( have a client near the ALSAA swimming pool ) I have to re-enter the main thoroughfare on the road opposite the Circle K garage. The traffic ( I am there around noon-13h00 ) is now building back up to the Airport.

Becoming a mission to exit the Airport these days.

Jamie2k9 · 13-06-2019 10:18am

Ryanair to resume Marseille again.

Kermit.de.frog · 14-06-2019 5:50am

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Was up there every day this week ( have a client near the ALSAA swimming pool ) I have to re-enter the main thoroughfare on the road opposite the Circle K garage. The traffic ( I am there around noon-13h00 ) is now building back up to the Airport.

Becoming a mission to exit the Airport these days.

Needs a flyover to replace entrance roundabout.

Living Off The Splash · 14-06-2019 9:37am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Ryanair to resume Marseille again.

Thanks for the heads up.

Entry prices are €36 and €43. Hoping they will drop back a bit when 2020 prices settle.

California Dreamer · 14-06-2019 5:27pm

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up.

Entry prices are €36 and €43. Hoping they will drop back a bit when 2020 prices settle.

Drop back to what? Is that not a very good price?

Van.Bosch · 14-06-2019 8:52pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

Drop back to what? Is that not a very good price?

36 quid for a 2.5 hour flight - if that’s not acceptable to people then I don’t know what is.

California Dreamer · 14-06-2019 9:03pm

Van.Bosch wrote: »

36 quid for a 2.5 hour flight - if that’s not acceptable to people then I don’t know what is.

Thats what I was wondering. Would you hang on to save a tenner?

smurfjed · 15-06-2019 7:18am

Just wait until Ryanair get the 737-MAX flying, they will offer that extra €10 off that people crave.

And people will very rapidly forget the -MAX debacle

Living Off The Splash · 15-06-2019 8:50am

California Dreamer wrote: »

Drop back to what? Is that not a very good price?

I picked up flights on their new Bordeaux route this year for €24.99. I also got flights to Munich for €24.99 last month. Bordeaux then dropped to €19.99 as did Munich.

I was tracking flights to Girona for the autumn. They were pitched at over €60. Now (for my dates) €28.99. I was happy at the time to get them for €34.

I think purchasing Ryanair flights now, for April/My 2020 is a bit early for Marseille. They will have their pre Christmas sale to generate publicity for the route.

Aer Lingus prices to Marseille are crazy. Ryanair existing prices are pennies in comparison.

I have noticed that Ryanair are pitching their outward flights at good prices but the return portion are oftentimes double the price. It pays to grab the outward flight then wait for them to drop the price for the return portion. So far it has always worked for me.

trellheim · 15-06-2019 10:01am

unless you have an automated sniper bot that can pick up those prices on release , I cant help but feel the tenner in the difference isn worth the effort in watching every move every hour ? unless your booking for 50 people on a pilgrimage or something ?

JCX BXC · 15-06-2019 10:29am

smurfjed wrote: »

Just wait until Ryanair get the 737-MAX flying, they will offer that extra €10 off that people crave.

And people will very rapidly forget the -MAX debacle

If they even have to do that, remember the 787 battery issues? Most of the public seem to have forgotten!

rivegauche · 15-06-2019 10:32am

Try airhint.com but I don't use it that much as if the fares are below a certain level I book irrespective of whether they might be cheaper later.
Marseille is 1400km as the crow flies from Dublin. 40 euro fares one way are a bargain.

IngazZagni · 15-06-2019 10:51am

California Dreamer wrote: »

Drop back to what? Is that not a very good price?

Exactly those fares are borderline loss making as it is even at an airline with one of the lowest cost bases.
I think people in Europe don’t appreciate how good they have it in terms of value when flying. In the USA you’d struggle to find a fare under $100 for similar sector lengths.

john boye · 15-06-2019 11:28am

JCX BXC wrote: »

If they even have to do that, remember the 787 battery issues? Most of the public seem to have forgotten!

I fully agree people will forget eventually however the difference is nobody died from the 787 battery. It may take a bit longer for people to forget the max issues.

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