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Throwback Thursday

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭testarossa40


    Csalem wrote: »
    This week we are going back to 1988 and a slightly unusual bus in the Dublin Bus fleet. KR 11 is seen in the Phoenix Park at the Dublin Bus Rally. The KR class were not usually associated with bus routes in Dublin, the R in KR standing for "rural". Indeed, this bus was delivered new to Limerick in 1985. However, in early 1988 it transferred up to Dublin as part of the batch KR 9 -14. This was as part of the plan to improve the bus service in North Wicklow with some more suitable buses, unlike the similar KC class. Dublin Bus made some changes to the KRs they received, such as replacing the key ignition with a push button, and putting in larger destination displays. However, due to the union objections the buses never entered service on the routes planned for them. In fact, they saw limited public use in general in the capital, and were occasionally loaned back to Bus Eireann when they were short on buses. By the end of 1988 the buses were back in Limerick and repainted back into Bus Eireann. KR 11 saw out its days in Cork as a school bus and was in a scrapyard by 2006.
    The bus is dressed for one of the north Wicklow routes, the 85. Back in 1988 it ran from Bray to Enniskerry (Shop River or Golden Gates) and Bray to Ballywaltrim. By the mid 1990s it had been replaced by Localink 185, which in 2018 passed to Go-Ahead Ireland operations.
    Bus rallies have continued on and off over the intervening years. The most recent one was in Dun Laoghaire in 2017.
    16/06/1988

    Throwback Thursday (232) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


    Does anybody know the reasons the unions objected to KRs being operated by DB?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week are going back to 1988 and to KD 85 at Donabate railway station. It is displaying route 33B although it may be on the 33C, although both routes were very closely related. The 33B connected the city centre with Portrane via Swords and Donabate. Overtime the city centre connection was reduced, with only two services from Dublin and four services to Dublin in 1988. Most departures went to / from Swords. By the early 2000s the route was solely confined to Swords to Portrane via Donabate. In 2018 the route transferred to Go-Ahead Ireland.
    Route 33C ran between Donabate Station to Portrane Hospital. It was removed from the network at the same time as the 33B was cut back to Swords. The 33B was also diverted to serve Portrane Hospital.
    KD 85 was delivered new to Dublin in 1982. It was destroyed in a fire by vandals at Skerries station in 1989. 25/06/1988

    50044452072_a3e0ac7a10_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (233) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Does anybody know the reasons the unions objected to KRs being operated by DB?

    From memory,it was'nt Union issues at all,but rather an internal turf-war between Bus Atha Cliath and Bus Eireann which went all the way to CEO level.

    The essence was Dublin Bus's plans to significantly expand services in the East Wicklow area using Bray Town as it's hub.( some rumours at the time even mentioned Wicklow Town as a terminus :eek: !!!)

    Unsurprisingly Bus Eireann were less than supportive of this and made it known.

    No agreement could be reached between the sister companies,and afaik,it was eventually decided upon by the full CIE Board,that the status-quo should continue to apply.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭testarossa40


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    From memory,it was'nt Union issues at all,but rather an internal turf-war between Bus Atha Cliath and Bus Eireann which went all the way to CEO level.

    The essence was Dublin Bus's plans to significantly expand services in the East Wicklow area using Bray Town as it's hub.( some rumours at the time even mentioned Wicklow Town as a terminus :eek: !!!)

    Unsurprisingly Bus Eireann were less than supportive of this and made it known.

    No agreement could be reached between the sister companies,and afaik,it was eventually decided upon by the full CIE Board,that the status-quo should continue to apply.
    Thanks Alek! Couldn't think how unions could have scope over fleet types in this instance - myth busted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    It might be complete bs but at the time were double decker drivers paid more than the guys on single deckers? Ive a vague recollection of that being a sticking point too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    tnegun wrote: »
    It might be complete bs but at the time were double decker drivers paid more than the guys on single deckers? Ive a vague recollection of that being a sticking point too.

    The Imp drivers were paid less for a period of time in the 90s I believe. Fairly sure the drivers of regular size single deckers like the KCs were paid the same.

    I find it funny that the NTA are bringing back ideas now that were phased out years ago like having single decker buses on certain routes and a common livery across the country. In some ways the TFI brand is like the CIE brand of the past as it can be seen across buses and trains.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    33⅓ less to be exact


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭LastStop


    33⅓ less to be exact

    And those staff were referred to as yellow pack drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip this week to Dublin Airport in 1994 and AD 35 on the Airlink. AD 35 was the first of 6 ADs specially delivered to Dublin Bus in April 1994 as part of the relaunch of the Airport coach service. It was that May that the Airlink brand was launched, along with this new yellow / green / grey livery. With the new Airlink brand the number of services to Heuston Station was also increased, though most still terminated at Bus Aras. By 2020 the main Airlink route (the 747) runs all services from Heuston Station to Dublin Airport via Bus Aras.
    In total Dublin Bus received 70 members of the AD class between 1994 and 1995. Most were used on CitySwift routes across routes, with AD 35-40 and 69/70 dedicated to the Airlink routes. They lasted on those routes until around 2000 when they were started to be phased out first by RV double-deckers in 1999 and then AV double-deckers in 2000. The bus ended its days on school duties with Bus Eireann in the Wexford area.
    This location in Dublin Airport was subsequently used by Aircoach and, from March 2020, Dublin Express.
    02/07/1994

    50069375472_68d5685db7_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (234) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Csalem wrote: »
    A trip this week to Dublin Airport in 1994 and AD 35 on the Airlink. AD 35 was the first of 6 ADs specially delivered to Dublin Bus in April 1994 as part of the relaunch of the Airport coach service. It was that May that the Airlink brand was launched, along with this new yellow / green / grey livery. With the new Airlink brand the number of services to Heuston Station was also increased, though most still terminated at Bus Aras. By 2020 the main Airlink route (the 747) runs all services from Heuston Station to Dublin Airport via Bus Aras.
    In total Dublin Bus received 70 members of the AD class between 1994 and 1995. Most were used on CitySwift routes across routes, with AD 35-40 and 69/70 dedicated to the Airlink routes. They lasted on those routes until around 2000 when they were started to be phased out first by RV double-deckers in 1999 and then AV double-deckers in 2000. The bus ended its days on school duties with Bus Eireann in the Wexford area.
    This location in Dublin Airport was subsequently used by Aircoach and, from March 2020, Dublin Express.
    02/07/1994

    50069375472_68d5685db7_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (234) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    Remember seeing most of these laying up for years in broadstone.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Also, some drivers currently earn considerably less than others (and don't get additional benefits like free travel) for doing the same job on behalf of the NTA. That's another thing they've brought back.

    Good point. Also it could be somewhat argued back then as driving minbuses is arguably less skilled than full size double and single deckers but DB and GAI drivers do basically the exact job but for different pay rates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 2007 and AX 470 is stuck on Grafton Street while operating a service to Whitechurch on route 15C. There have been a number of routes to bear the designation 15C over the decades in Dublin. The longest lived version ran from 1980 to around 1993, and connected the City Centre with Willington. It was not a very frequent route and was replaced in time in Willington by the 54A and the 150. The next version of the 15C was the one seen here in the photo. Running from the City Centre to Whitechurch, it started in 1999, as a replacement to the 47 group of routes, and lasted until 30th September 2007 when it was replaced by the 15B. The final version of the 15C is an "unofficial official" route that has appeared in more recent times. The current route 15 has been a cross city route since 2011, running from Clongriffin to Ballycullen Road. To highlight routes running short to just the City Centre, 15C is often used on the displays.
    AX 470 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 2006, and based in Ringsend Garage. It was withdrawn from there in 2019 and moved to Paul S. Winson in Loughborough (UK).
    This part of Grafton Street became of the Luas Green Line in 2018, with trams using in both directions, along with some bus routes, but not the 15. During the building of the tramline, the 15 group of routes (along with other routes) were diverted along Camden Street instead of Kildare Street.
    Finally, the Gardai in the picture are trying to figure out what to do with a tourist's rental car which had broken down at this awkward spot, causing the traffic jam AX 470 is leading. 05/09/2007

    50094627362_7b8b1dfd8d_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (235) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A hop back twenty-five years this week to D 689 in Dublin Airport on the 230 in 1995. Route 230 started in 1991 between Dublin Airport and Malahide, although it was soon extended to Portmarnock. Initially it was operated by mini-buses (some displaced from local services in Tallaght), but KC single-deckers took over within two years. The Airport Express KCs found themselves on this route in 1994 after the AD class arrived to takeover the Airlink. Double-deckers only became common on the route in the late 1990s, and D class VanHools like D 689 were very rare on it. In 2008 the route was absorbed into the 102 and extended to Sutton Station. In 2018 Go-Ahead Ireland took over operation of the route and single-deckers returned, although double-deckers do appear on some of the busier departures.
    D 689 was delivered new to Summerhill Garage in Dublin in 1975. It was withdrawn within a year of this photograph being taken and was sold for scrap in 1999.
    The bus may be gone, the route may be gone, but Heinz ketchup is still going strong.

    50119227653_7fd32b3cf2_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (236) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    July 1994 finds a one month old AD 22 at the terminus of route 3 within the grounds of UCD Belfield. This bus was one of seventy members of the class that were delivered during 1994, though some did not enter service until 1995. Initially it was based in Donnybrook Garage but had moved to Phibsboro Garge by 1996. In 1999 it spent some time in Waterford while Bus Eireann were waiting for other buses to arrive there. It then returned to Donnybrook Garage in Dublin before ending its career as a school bus for Bus Eireann in Cork in the early-2000s. This was a bus that got around.
    The bus was delivered in unbranded CitySwift livery for service in Donnybrook but received all the branding for when it entered service on the 39 in Phibsboro. Donnybrook only had one CitySwift route, the 46a, and it was unsuitable for single-decker buses.
    The route 3 ran from Larkhill to Sandymount, with certain departures extended to / from UCD Belfield. The route was initially operated by Ringsend Garage but transferred to Donnybrook Garage for a while in the 1990s and early-2000s before going back to Ringsend. The route itself passed Ringsend Garage. In 2012 the route was removed from the network during the Network Direct changes with a new route 1 taking over most of the 3 route from Sandymount to Collins Avenue. The section from Sandymount to Belfield fly-over was replaced by the 47.
    This terminus in UCD Belfield now home to some ducks and swans as a lake was built here during the 2010s. 23/07/1994

    50145010752_54e9daae95_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (237) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Did the 3 use a different terminus in Belfield to the 10 back then or was the main terminus in UCD where the lake is now. I know the 11b used to terminate over where the sports centre which is used by the 142 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    GT89 wrote: »
    Did the 3 use a different terminus in Belfield to the 10 back then or was the main terminus in UCD where the lake is now. I know the 11b used to terminate over where the sports centre which is used by the 142 now.

    Yeah the 3 used the main terminus along with the 10 and 17 which is now the lake. Bus Eireann went from there too. The Xpressos went from there too for a while until their dedicated terminus was built around 2008/09 (I think) which has subsequently become the main terminus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going back a decade to July 2010 and RV 582 at the 14 terminus in Dundrum.
    The 14 is a route that can trace its origins back to the tram days when it connected the city centre with Dartry. From the 1950s the bus route operated from Phoenix Park to Churchtown, being extended to Ballinteer in the 1990s. It was further extended to Dundrum in the 2000s, to provide some interchange with the recently opened Luas Green Line (This photograph was taken from the Dundrum tram stop). Under Network Direct in 2011 the 14 was merged with the 14A and 20B to become a cross-city route from Beaumont to Dundrum. In August 2020, the terminus is due to switch to the other side of the road due to the main street becoming one way.
    RV 582 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1999 and withdrawn in 2012. It then emigrated to the United Kingdom where most recently it has been doing school bus duties with Fowler's Travel near Peterborough. 29/07/2010

    50170827622_31dec5662a_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (238) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Is the one-way switch for Dundrum in August to be permanent or is it just for the pandemic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Council says temporary but temporary things do have a habit of becoming permanent:
    https://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general-news/dundrum-village-mobility-public-space-enhancement-update


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week's Throwback Thursday might be a bit more Provincial Past, but it is a bus from Dublin Bus. RV 629 is seen on Abbey Street in August 2000. Although registered in 1999, the bus did not enter service until January 2000, and it and RV 628 went on loan to Bus Eireann for most of 2000. Bus Eireann wanted to trial double-deckers on commuter routes around Dublin and the buses operated mainly on the 103 to Ashbourne and Ratoath, but RV 628 spent some time based in Drogheda and was used on local services there to Laytown. The trial was a success and in 2001 Bus Eireann ordered 6 Volvos with East Lancs Vyking bodywork. Later these buses (DD 11-16) were joined by 17 more DDs and over a hundred Wright Geminis and used not only in Dublin, but also Cork, Limerick, Galway, Drogheda, Dundalk and Waterford.
    RV 629 returned to Dublin Bus and operated on some of the City Swift routes. It was one of the last Olympians to be withdrawn, surviving until October 2012, when it was sold on to a different operator.
    Cafe Kylemore used to be one of the main coffee shops, / restaurants / bakeries in Ireland, competing with Bewleys, but is now a shadow of its former self. 05/08/2000

    50195852921_a5415f545f_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (239) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    We are going back to 2005 this week to see RA 190 on the 13B. This route started in November 1997 and connected the City Centre with Palmerstom Park via Ranelagh and Beechwood Avenue. Palmerston Park in Dartry had been the terminus of a number of routes over the years - route 12 until 1985 and route 13 until 1997. During a revision of Ballymun services in 1997, the 13 was cut back to Merrion Square, and the 13B was introduced to replace the 13 on the southside. Initially the 13B was an all-day service but in 2000 it was cutback to a predominately peak-hour service. In 2005 the route was removed from the network, less than a week after this photograph was taken. The Luas Green Line had opened in 2004 and served most of the places that the 13B went through, but did so much more frequently. That wasn't the end of Palmerston Park though as it became the terminus for the 128, 140 and 142 at various points over the following years. The 140 is only the route that terminates there now in 2020.
    RA 190 was delivered new in 1994 and was withdrawn in 2006. It subsequently went on to have a further career in the United Kingdom. 13/08/2005

    50222206423_b0a061a58d_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (240) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip back twenty-five years this week to 1995, and a collection of City Imps on College Street. ML 28 is seen parked at the 155 terminus, while behind it there is an Imp on the 83 and another also on the 155. Route 155 went over to City Imp in 1994 when it replaced the former Dublin Bus route 55. The 155 ran from the city centre to Limekiln Farm in Greenhills, and was operated from Donnybrook Garage, whereas the 55 was a Ringsend Garage route. The route operated a high-frequency of every 10 minutes for most of the day. It only lasted until around 2001 when it was replaced by a rerouted 19A on the southside. The 155 number reappeared on the network again in 2019, but this time running between Bray and Ballymun.
    ML 28 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1995. It was one of 35 members of the class delivered between 1994 and 1995. Most members of the class were withdrawn from around 2001 onwards, when Dublin Bus started to move away from minibuses. Some of the ML minibuses were sold on to other operators.
    This location on College Street is now the Trinity tram stop on the Luas Greeen Line. The building behind the 83 has been demolished but "The Irish Yeast Co." shop is still there. 19/08/1995

    50248801077_e0a7472a29_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (241) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Still one in Donnybrook which was used as the ticket bus, no seats in rear and cats live in it now, it's been moved to the very rear now behind a pump house and it just fits..... Now I can recall if it is a me or ml


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Still one in Donnybrook which was used as the ticket bus, no seats in rear and cats live in it now, it's been moved to the very rear now behind a pump house and it just fits..... Now I can recall if it is a me or ml

    It is ME 22 I think:
    https://flic.kr/p/ETsAZp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Csalem wrote: »
    It is ME 22 I think:
    https://flic.kr/p/ETsAZp

    Yes that's her, it's further up the back now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    Csalem wrote: »
    We are going back to 2005 this week to see RA 190 on the 13B. This route started in November 1997 and connected the City Centre with Palmerstom Park via Ranelagh and Beechwood Avenue. Palmerston Park in Dartry had been the terminus of a number of routes over the years - route 12 until 1985 and route 13 until 1997. During a revision of Ballymun services in 1997, the 13 was cut back to Merrion Square, and the 13B was introduced to replace the 13 on the southside. Initially the 13B was an all-day service but in 2000 it was cutback to a predominately peak-hour service. In 2005 the route was removed from the network, less than a week after this photograph was taken. The Luas Green Line had opened in 2004 and served most of the places that the 13B went through, but did so much more frequently. That wasn't the end of Palmerston Park though as it became the terminus for the 128, 140 and 142 at various points over the following years. The 140 is only the route that terminates there now in 2020.
    RA 190 was delivered new in 1994 and was withdrawn in 2006. It subsequently went on to have a further career in the United Kingdom. 13/08/2005

    50222206423_b0a061a58d_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (240) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    I'm pretty sure that's the 'Weightwatchers' bus that lost its entire roof under a low bridge in Bray back in February 2000, due to a driver error (forgot he was driving a bus, if I remember correctly). Must have been a nice bus to drive, if it was possible to confuse it with your own car. I wonder if the bus is still around. The driver was still around until very recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    .anon. wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that's the 'Weightwatchers' bus that lost its entire roof under a low bridge in Bray back in February 2000, due to a driver error (forgot he was driving a bus, if I remember correctly). Must have been a nice bus to drive, if it was possible to confuse it with your own car. I wonder if the bus is still around. The driver was still around until very recently.

    They were use to driving the imp singles, he drove along as normal just he was in a double that day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    They were use to driving the imp singles, he drove along as normal just he was in a double that day

    I don't recall that particular driver ever being on the imp routes. An easy mistake to make in Bray though, with so many low bridges. I'm surprised it hasn't happened more often, especially when Go Ahead arrived on the scene with many drivers not being familiar with the area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This picture from late 2015 was the most recent one I found of RA 190 in the UK:
    https://flic.kr/p/yZNX5H


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Csalem wrote: »
    This picture from late 2015 was the most recent one I found of RA 190 in the UK:
    https://flic.kr/p/yZNX5H

    Done my test in one... Then 1995 was the oldest I drove in service, some had a reverse switch you had to press extra to the actual reverse switch.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    .anon. wrote: »
    I don't recall that particular driver ever being on the imp routes. An easy mistake to make in Bray though, with so many low bridges. I'm surprised it hasn't happened more often, especially when Go Ahead arrived on the scene with many drivers not being familiar with the area.

    Thought some of the Bray locals used to have imps. There were ADs on the 184 and 185 so he might have been confused with one of those.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Still one in Donnybrook which was used as the ticket bus, no seats in rear and cats live in it now, it's been moved to the very rear now behind a pump house and it just fits..... Now I can recall if it is a me or ml

    What's used for now I wonder? Surprised they haven't sold it for scrap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭john boye


    Csalem wrote: »
    This picture from late 2015 was the most recent one I found of RA 190 in the UK:
    https://flic.kr/p/yZNX5H

    Looks like its roof had been in the wars again.

    It got its replacement roof from a recently-converted tours RH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    GT89 wrote: »
    What's used for now I wonder? Surprised they haven't sold it for scrap.

    Nothing whatsoever, it's sitting up years, last movement was pushed with fork lift....
    It's never going to see the road again....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Nothing whatsoever, it's sitting up years, last movement was pushed with fork lift....
    It's never going to see the road again....

    I seen it from the upper deck of bus when passing Donnybrook garage. Usually notice it when all the buses are out assumed they were using it as some kind of storage unit can't understand any reason why they'd keep without any use and not just sell it for scrap and I doubt there's any parts that can be used again. Seems odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    GT89 wrote: »
    I seen it from the upper deck of bus when passing Donnybrook garage. Usually notice it when all the buses are out assumed they were using it as some kind of storage unit can't understand any reason why they'd keep without any use and not just sell it for scrap and I doubt there's any parts that can be used again. Seems odd.

    I remember they use to have a bus graveyard there, as you would pass that section, it was raised and many a wreck would be dumped there.
    Yeah it's odd alright as last thing it done was ticket sales for concerts or nitelink and a bus pull where we pulled it to city centre for charity.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    I remember they use to have a bus graveyard there, as you would pass that section, it was raised and many a wreck would be dumped there.
    Yeah it's odd alright as last thing it done was ticket sales for concerts or nitelink and a bus pull where we pulled it to city centre for charity.

    Thought they used a WV for that bus pull once remember seeing pictures of it. Actually coming to think about when I was in primary school I remember a city imp bus came to the school yard to be filled with christmas shoe boxes for the kids in Africa would have been around 2004-2005ish might have actually been that bus remember the driver being very friendly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    GT89 wrote: »
    Thought they used a WV for that bus pull once remember seeing pictures of it. Actually coming to think about when I was in primary school I remember a city imp bus came to the school yard to be filled with christmas shoe boxes for the kids in Africa would have been around 2004-2005ish might have actually been that bus remember the driver being very friendly.

    Yes that was a wv collecting the boxes.
    It would have most likely been off 123 route originally, that where Donnybrook got the ones to run 44b all burnt out and not safe at all to be on the road.

    It was Me 2* that we pulled. I'll have to remember to take a photo of the photo.

    21 or 22 of us pulled it. Was tough going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Going back eleven years this week to a special bus in the history of Dublin Bus. WH 1 is seen on O'Connell Street with a service on route 16 to Ballinteer. WH 1 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 2008 and was a diesel / electric hybrid purchased to demonstrate alternative engine technology. The bus was based in Summerhill garage and predominately operated on the cross-city route 16 between Santry and Ballinteer. In 2010 the bus returned to the Wrights factory in Ballymena for some work for a number of months, but when it returned it stayed in service with Dublin Bus until the end of January 2012. It was then sold to Ensign Bus in London and had a brief career, being destroyed by fire in June 2012.
    Unfortunately the hybrid trial did not lead to any orders but in 2019 a new trial started within Dublin Bus. This trial involves 9 buses and one of the examples from Wrights has been given the fleet number WH 1. The National Transport Authority expects to received the first of 100 hybrids from Alexander Dennis in 2020, with this fleet being split between Dublin Bus and Bus Eireann.
    The current route 16 can be traced back to 1955 when it ran between Santry and Grange Road. The same year the 16A started between Beaumont and Lower Rathfarnham. In 2012 the two routes were combined into a new 16 that ran from Dublin Airport to Ballinteer. 27/08/2009

    50275496176_938d914c01_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (242) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going back a few short seven years to 2013, with AX 638 passing through Stillorgan village. The Old Dublin Road in Stillorgan, as the name suggests, was once the main road from the south-east into the city. Therefore Stillorgan village was very well served by buses on this busy corridor. In the 1970s the Stillorgan Bypass was opened but the buses still turned off the new road to serve the village. This included routes like the high-frequency 46A. By the late 1990s this was having an impact on the services. Buses would have stop at traffic lights to get off and back on the Stillorgan dual-carriageway in order to the serve the village. This was also undoing the good-work the Quality Bus Corridors had done to speed up the bus services on this corridor. From around 2000/2001 on some services did not serve the village in peak times. Within a decade no 46A served the village, nor did the 145 to Bray. Today, the 47 is the only all-day route to use this road, about once an hour in each direction. The 75 also serves Stillorgan, but uses the Kilmacud Road. This road has probably seen one of the largest drops in bus services over the years in Dublin city.
    In the background is Stillorgan Shopping Centre. The first shopping centre in Dublin opened here in 1966. In more recent years it has received a renovation.
    The 47 has had a slightly complicated history. It has no connection to the route that served Tibradden up until the 1990s. This route started in 2008, initially between Belarmine and Donnybrook and provided a connection to the Luas tram at Sandyford. It was later extended into the city centre in 2010, going via Nutley Lane and Mount Street instead of Donnybrook. In 2012 it was rerouted again to go via Nutley Lane, Sandymount and Ringsend to the City Centre (partially as a replacement for the withdrawn route 3.
    AX 638 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 2006 and is still in service today. It has spent all its working life in Donnybrook Garage. 03/09/2013

    50302352342_6767ef619b_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (243) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Slightly unusual Throwback Thursday this week, and one I debated about posting. When I started this series in 2016 all public service obligation bus services in Dublin were operated by Dublin Bus, and prior to that it was CIE, from whom Dublin Bus was formed from in 1987. In 2015 the National Transport Authority sought expressions of interest to operate some of the routes around the city. During 2016 this became an official tender. Dublin Bus applied to retain and operate the routes, as did other bus companies. The winner which was announced in 2017 was Go-Ahead, a transport company that operates bus and rail services around the world. 23 routes transferred from Dublin Bus to Go-Ahead Ireland and one new route started, the 175.
    The 175 commenced running on September 9th 2018. The route takes it from Citywest to UCD Belfield via Tallaght, Ballinteer and Dundrum, and back again. It provides some relief to the busy route 75 while also providing new connections between some of the southern suburbs in Dublin.
    11572 is seen passing through the bus gate in Tallaght Village. This was one of 24 Wright Geminis bought specifically for the tendered routes, Another 49 members of the Dublin Bus SG class transferred over, as well as 12 GT class buses. In 2020 due to the Covid-19 pandemic and the need to provide extra services for school children, 7 AX buses also went to Go-Ahead Ireland.
    So, the bus landscape has changed a bit in the four years since Throwback Thursday started. The Go-Ahead Ireland contract is for five years. With it starting in 2018, there is a chance another operator will be running this route in four years time. Of course, if Bus Connects happens, then none of the current bus routes could be around in four years. We live in interesting times...
    10/09/2018

    50326829503_78124fb53d_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (244) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A short trip back ten years to a scene that has changed a lot beneath the service. RV 636 is seen on O'Connell Street heading south to Drimnagh with a service on route 121. The 121 started in 1997 as a City Imp route. Initially this. mini-bus route ran from Parnell Square to Drimnagh Road (outside Crumlin Hospital) via The Liberties and Clogher Road. Within a year it was extended north to Cabra via Berkeley Road and Dowth Avenue. In 1999 the Cabra terminus was moved from Fassaugh Road to Ratoath Road. In the early-2000s the route was converted from mini-bus to double-decker operation, losing the City Imp brand in the process. However in 2011 the route was abolished under Network Direct, with the 150 taking over most of its southside routing and the 120/122 continuing to serve Cabra.
    RV 626 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1999 and was withdrawn in October 2012 It then moved to the UK and most recently was with Priory Coaches.
    In the background is a fellow ex-Dublin Olympian. It was doing the City Sightseeing tour for Dualway's. In 2019 the CitySightseeing franchise moved to Extreme Ireland, and Dualway's sold their tour fleet to Big Bus.
    RV 626 has an ad for Corona Extra. 2010 was a time when Corona brought to mind a beverage and not a global pandemic. 18/09/2010

    50352322093_38cc19f27a_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (245) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Csalem wrote: »
    A short trip back ten years to a scene that has changed a lot beneath the service. RV 636 is seen on O'Connell Street heading south to Drimnagh with a service on route 121.

    50352322093_38cc19f27a_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (245) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    The 121 is unique as it saw almost every model of bus in the fleet turning up on it over it's relatively short history. From the various M's that were intended especially to run on it's narrow streets and estates through to the Leyland Olympians and the reliable AV's. The P's that had once been on the 39A also did turns on the 121 as did the EV's from 2009 onwards. Even the KD's made the route before they were called to retirement while story goes that a trl axle even ended up on it one day; pictures of it would be very welcome :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    The 121 is unique as it saw almost every model of bus in the fleet turning up on it over it's relatively short history. From the various M's that were intended especially to run on it's narrow streets and estates through to the Leyland Olympians and the reliable AV's. The P's that had once been on the 39A also did turns on the 121 as did the EV's from 2009 onwards. Even the KD's made the route before they were called to retirement while story goes that a trl axle even ended up on it one day; pictures of it would be very welcome :pac:

    Pictures of VT 42 on 121 here:
    http://dublinbusstuff.com/Routes121.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Csalem wrote: »
    Pictures of VT 42 on 121 here:
    http://dublinbusstuff.com/Routes121.html

    Like the 46A, you never let us down :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Sadly I wasn't able to take a picture of it myself that day. I heard it was out on the road but it was a Sunday and would not have seen it in time. The VTs appear on some odd routes at times. One of the morning 45 from Oldcourt to City Centre was a VT due to school children travelling on service. A morning 116 to Parnell or Mountjoy Square usually did a southbound working on the 11 to Sandyford. And I am pretty sure during the Malahide bridge collapse, one did a return working to Dublin from Balbriggan on the 33 after arriving on a 33X because the rostered bus broke down.

    And I did once get this shot but sadly the bus was not in service:
    22548738838_b4f84f087d_c.jpgA Big One on the "1"! by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Contrails


    Like the 46A, you never let us down :)

    Speaking of the 46A and odd allocations... there was an EV heading down the north circular as a 46A the other day. Saw it again on the Stillorgan road later. Something I've never seen before. Had to have been a mistake..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Contrails wrote: »
    Speaking of the 46A and odd allocations... there was an EV heading down the north circular as a 46A the other day. Saw it again on the Stillorgan road later. Something I've never seen before. Had to have been a mistake..

    Happens from time to time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Oddest allocation I have seen on the 46A :D

    18055307678_70750faf86_c.jpgA Taste of Home - VWD 9 on the 46A by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    Csalem wrote: »
    Oddest allocation I have seen on the 46A :D

    18055307678_70750faf86_c.jpgA Taste of Home - VWD 9 on the 46A by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    Both Douglas and Donnybrook are southeastern suburbs of Cork, in the territory of bus eireann.


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