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davidk1394 · 23-04-2015 10:41am

Willfarman wrote: »

Small weights for age but the could still get money enough. 14 birthdays that Wight be bringing around 700 for those type and weights in my part of country.

Sorry lads i meant to put down 2014 instead of 2013 my miatake !

CloughCasey1 · 23-04-2015 10:55am

davidk1394 wrote: »

Sorry lads i meant to put down 2014 instead of 2013 my miatake !

290kg would be the average for good aa yearlings

davidk1394 · 23-04-2015 12:18pm

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

290kg would be the average for good aa yearlings

I got offered €2 a kg live weight. Im looking for around 2.20 kg. Is it too much or about right ?

CloughCasey1 · 23-04-2015 2:28pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

I got offered €2 a kg live weight. Im looking for around 2.20 kg. Is it too much or about right ?

Usually the €1.90/€2 euro mark for aa. The way prices are now you could look for another 10c.

CHOPS01 · 23-04-2015 8:10pm

Was in Newport today. Heifers flew through the ring.Lads selling not hanging on too long before animals being put on the market and buyers not messing if they wanted the animal they bought it.
But f.ck me the bullocks were a different story. Sellers were hanging and hanging and buyers slow to give in to the extra fiver and just buy the beast.
Even the auctioneer was getting a bit fed up constantly telling lads to hurry up or watch their bid.
Is this all down to lads selling thinking they are entitled to mad prices and buyers just afraid of their lives to buy cattle that bit dearer.
Twas full of older farmers from I could see.

CloughCasey1 · 23-04-2015 9:15pm

Was talking to a lad who had 6 yearling whiteheads (heifers) at ennis mart and they made 720 @ 300kg. He wasn't happy. this time last yr he would have been back 100quid.

Butcher Boy · 23-04-2015 9:42pm

In macroom on Saturday 4 red lim blk 365 kgs made 1100 ,they were nice stock.

Willfarman · 23-04-2015 11:04pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

I got offered €2 a kg live weight. Im looking for around 2.20 kg. Is it too much or about right ?

About right I think.

Feckthis · 23-04-2015 11:32pm

Butcher Boy wrote: »

In macroom on Saturday 4 red lim blk 365 kgs made 1100 ,they were nice stock.

What age we're they?

I said · 23-04-2015 11:55pm

Never noticed the journals cameraman taking photos of me stock in the mart last week when I was selling.

P_Cash · 23-04-2015 11:55pm

Problem we have now is good prices are quoted for good stock, and of course everyone thinks now they have an animal worth 1k +

I still wonder, and I've asked this before.

When a factory buys an animal for 1600/1800 eur, where do they get this value from

Id get a lot of the best meat from the best butcher for 1,800.

I said · 24-04-2015 12:04am

Cattle are scarce and don't worry the factories aren't out to loose money for the farmers behalf.
They'll tell ya down to the red Rex how to get money

Farmer Pudsey · 24-04-2015 12:09am

P_Cash wrote: »

Problem we have now is good prices are quoted for good stock, and of course everyone thinks now they have an animal worth 1k +

I still wonder, and I've asked this before.

When a factory buys an animal for 1600/1800 eur, where do they get this value from

Id get a lot of the best meat from the best butcher for 1,800.

Hide is worth 60-100 euro. 5 quarter another 100. Processors only pay for carcass, they recover about 4-6 kgs that is not weighted in mostly from the head. As well there is 5.25% vat bringing the animal to 1710 euro. Take away hide and offal and animal is costing 1500-1550 euro

An animal that the factory pays 1800 for 425kgs DW. An animal this large would have a meat to bone recovery rate of 72ish%. That is 306kgs of meat along with recovered meat that leave 310 kgs. That leaves the processor paying 4.9/kg for the meat. Go into any supermarket and see how what meat is prices at less than 5/kg.

Butcher Boy · 24-04-2015 10:58am

Feckthis wrote: »

What age we're they?

They were born june and july of 2014,out of handy cows and stock bull.

davidk1394 · 25-04-2015 12:07am

Heifers are sold anyway !

Muckit · 25-04-2015 12:13am

A late mart

Willfarman · 01-05-2015 10:49am

The real good big store is back a lot in South East in the week. 5 millers of u grade lim bullocks. Nov 13 535kgs @1400. Big empty cattle Weighing bad. 1600 would of been price of them 2 weeks ago.. I think the real madness may have passed.

Nettleman · 01-05-2015 11:05am

Willfarman wrote: »

The real good big store is back a lot in South East in the week. 5 millers of u grade lim bullocks. Nov 13 535kgs @1400. Big empty cattle Weighing bad. 1600 would of been price of them 2 weeks ago.. I think the real madness may have passed.

anybody going to Ballybays teagasc sale 2nite?

AP2014 · 05-05-2015 9:46pm

Anyone any prices lately? I heard they are back a bit. Bought a few 2 weeks ago for same price as lads I bought 6 wks ago and better quality. Wonder are prices easing with the bad weather and time of year.

dodo mommy · 05-05-2015 11:13pm

Sold a bull wealing at the weekend he made over 1100 with his weight it's not every day that happens here.

Bullocks · 05-05-2015 11:29pm

dodo mommy wrote: »

Sold a bull wealing at the weekend he made over 1100 with his weight it's not every day that happens here.

He must've been a cracker to get €1100 with his weight . Fair play

Cavanjack · 10-05-2015 1:27pm

Anyone know what sort of money friesian culls are making?

CloughCasey1 · 10-05-2015 2:37pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anyone know what sort of money friesian culls are making?

About €1.60 per kg

simx · 10-05-2015 11:38pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anyone know what sort of money friesian culls are making?

Too much just too Feckin much

CloughCasey1 · 10-05-2015 11:52pm

simx wrote: »

Too much just too Feckin much

Id say the way things are at the minute there is no way you'd make a bob fattening them. Know a lad who got 4 British FR big square ones off farmer for 870 and went straight to mart with them and made 340 each.

ger b · 11-05-2015 1:12am

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Id say the way things are at the minute there is no way you'd make a bob fattening them. Know a lad who got 4 British FR big square ones off farmer for 870 and went straight to mart with them and made 340 each.

340profit or hardly sold them for 340

CloughCasey1 · 11-05-2015 7:51am

ger b wrote: »

340profit or hardly sold them for 340

340 profit each. Dairy man was used to him taking his culls at around 900 mark

restive · 13-05-2015 4:12pm

Have prices fallen? Is the bubnle burst? Seem to be back a bit on donedeal.

leoch · 13-05-2015 4:27pm

no bubble hasnt burst here yet anyway,, cattle 250kg to 400kgs still very dear especially the chx they would be 900 to 1150 euro which is way to much for cattle that weights but its farmers paying way over the odds for them and were they are going to go with them this time next year is a good question....good luck to them

davidk1394 · 13-05-2015 5:00pm

I have 2 AA x FR suckler cows both with calves at foot. 1 cow has twin AA bull calves. The other cow has a LM bull calf. Cows are in average condition but on real good grass. Any idea what i might get for them ? Cows are just blood tested and calves are just TB tested

epfff · 13-05-2015 7:00pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

I have 2 AA x FR suckler cows both with calves at foot. 1 cow has twin AA bull calves. The other cow has a LM bull calf. Cows are in average condition but on real good grass. Any idea what i might get for them ? Cows are just blood tested and calves are just TB tested

Age of cows?
buying older cows round the 1200 mark. Twins worth a little more

Drop them up to me and I'll pay Yahoo on the spot cut out the Mart fees

orm0nd · 13-05-2015 8:37pm

mate of mine got €1000 approx. over the weight for BB bulls in Ennis yesterday

davidk1394 · 13-05-2015 10:14pm

epfff wrote: »

Age of cows?
buying older cows round the 1200 mark. Twins worth a little more

Drop them up to me and I'll pay Yahoo on the spot cut out the Mart fees

1 cows was born in 08 and on the farm as a calf. The other cow was born in 2011 and is 1 of my own breed she has the twins. Haha which part of the country are you situated

P_Cash · 13-05-2015 10:44pm

Supply and demand. I'm telling Ya, young animals are not easy come by, nearly everyone i know has trouble getting stock in calf

simx · 14-05-2015 3:53pm

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Id say the way things are at the minute there is no way you'd make a bob fattening them. Know a lad who got 4 British FR big square ones off farmer for 870 and went straight to mart with them and made 340 each.

More or less a waste of time this year, only if you could buy them in the yard at value but marts are stupid for cows this year

Willfarman · 14-05-2015 8:32pm

3 lbig Br fr the cows sold end of mart Enniscorthy 3 weeks ago. 750 kgs or thereabouts. Sold under 800... But they were to calve in 2 months to a her bull! Value or not?

Feckthis · 14-05-2015 8:41pm

What would yearling FR bullocks make in the mart around 250 -300kg?

Farmer Pudsey · 14-05-2015 9:00pm

Feckthis wrote: »

What would yearling FR bullocks make in the mart around 250 -300kg?

Willfarmer bought some last weekend 320kgs for 490. Good square one he posted on the Beef thread. So I suppose on that about 450 euro if they are square and less if middle of the road.

I call for them tomorrow morning:)

Farmer Pudsey · 14-05-2015 9:05pm

Willfarman wrote: »

3 lbig Br fr the cows sold end of mart Enniscorthy 3 weeks ago. 750 kgs or thereabouts. Sold under 800... But they were to calve in 2 months to a her bull! Value or not?

Hope you bought them I take the three of them and I never deal in cow. Let the calf under them along with maybe another calf until September. Even taking calves off cow at 6-8 weeks and finishing cow is a no brainer

epfff · 14-05-2015 9:33pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Hope you bought them I take the three of them and I never deal in cow. Let the calf under them along with maybe another calf until September. Even taking calves off cow at 6-8 weeks and finishing cow is a no brainer

After how long in calf can you kill a cow?
By September they would nearly be On point of calf again so at that stage I'd reload

Willfarman · 14-05-2015 10:54pm

I couldn't bid at them such is ringside politics.. Game of thrones has nothing on it! Really good square friesians yearlings are bringing 2 eur a kg but tis surprising what you'd pick up &#55357;&#56860;

CloughCasey1 · 14-05-2015 11:13pm

Willfarman wrote: »

I couldn't bid at them such is ringside politics.. Game of thrones has nothing on it! Really good square friesians yearlings are bringing 2 eur a kg but tis surprising what you'd pick up ��

That's too dear . best time is late lots when the truckers have made their quota for the day. Ya can't be buying friesians too dear as they will be hit the most in a drop of price.

Muckit · 21-05-2015 8:54am

BB X Sm bull dob Jan2009 1070kg made €2520.

CloughCasey1 · 21-05-2015 8:57am

Muckit wrote: »

BB X Sm bull dob Jan2009 1070kg made €2520.

Was he bought for beef or breeding?

Muckit · 21-05-2015 9:01am

Neither. Bought as a pet.

Not being smart, but how the f**k would l know!! If I had him and cows good enough, l'd be breeding from him. Best bull l've seen in a long time. Very correct in the feet and great width every which way.

CloughCasey1 · 21-05-2015 9:07am

Muckit wrote: »

Neither. Bought as a pet.

Not being smart, but how the f**k would l know!! If I had him and cows good enough, l'd be breeding from him. Best bull l've seen in a long time. Very correct in the feet and great width every which way.

Expensive pet

Thought he was your own amimal.

Kovu · 21-05-2015 12:06pm

^
Had one with same breeding that bulled a few heifers when he was ten months old. Best ppkg calves we had the following year! The sim gave them height and length and the blue gave the muscle.

AP2014 · 22-05-2015 12:30pm

I presume this fella is on drugs and no one would pay anywhere near €1050 for these kinda cattle:

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/14-lovely-herdford-bullucks/9469879?offset=13

These would be my sort of cattle if I wasn't already stocked up. Seem very reasonably priced.

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/12-bullocks-for-sale/9468153?offset=3

These look like great friesians for their age. Would you buy Pudsey?

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/6-friesian-bullockand-1-aax/9466536?offset=6

Willfarman · 22-05-2015 12:53pm

AP2014 wrote: »

I presume this fella is on drugs and no one would pay anywhere near €1050 for these kinda cattle:

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/14-lovely-herdford-bullucks/9469879?offset=13

These would be my sort of cattle if I wasn't already stocked up. Seem very reasonably priced.

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/12-bullocks-for-sale/9468153?offset=3

These look like great friesians for their age. Would you buy Pudsey?

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/6-friesian-bullockand-1-aax/9466536?offset=6

At the present mart trade you could see anything getting any amount of money. Marts are small and full of farmer buyers. Big square well fleshed 2013 friesians 680kg unsold at 1270 in kilkenny yesterday .yet stores same age 530kgs bringing 1180. The factory buys with pennies. The farmer buys with pounds. But yes there's apparent value in two of those ads in fairness. Roscommon man is a dealer I'd say though.

AP2014 · 22-05-2015 2:07pm

Willfarman wrote: »

At the present mart trade you could see anything getting any amount of money. Marts are small and full of farmer buyers. Big square well fleshed 2013 friesians 680kg unsold at 1270 in kilkenny yesterday .yet stores same age 530kgs bringing 1180. The factory buys with pennies. The farmer buys with pounds. But yes there's apparent value in two of those ads in fairness. Roscommon man is a dealer I'd say though.

I bought ones like the Roscommon lads there for €800 in March, not great quality. Had the vet TB testing 2 weeks ago and he said I would be giving €950 for them then, 6 weeks later. Madness.

Hopefully the craziness lasts until November, March and November are the two months prices matter to me.

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