Argos RIP thread

harr · 03-10-2017 4:38pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

Guys- anyone who is buying these- they are not compliant with HAP housing rules, nor are they acceptable under house insurance, as an alarm. These are for peace of mind- but they are not a replacement for a formal alarm system.

I didn’t know that...what’s the reason they are non complaint..I have a couple in my own house any reason in particular or are theay just **** quality ?
Would you recommend a better one...

iwillhtfu · 03-10-2017 5:09pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

but they are not a replacement for a formal alarm system.

What is classed as a formal alarm system? I doubt it's a fire alarm panel along the lines of gent etc. and the only difference between these and the standard these days would be mains connection wit battery back up as opposed to battery being the primary source of power.

Acceptable under house insurance? Is it a requirement of house insurance that carbon monoxide alarms are present. I don't ever recall reading that.

bromley52 · 03-10-2017 5:52pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

Guys- anyone who is buying these- they are not compliant with HAP housing rules, nor are they acceptable under house insurance, as an alarm. These are for peace of mind- but they are not a replacement for a formal alarm system.

Many systems people have in their homes are not compliant. It's always best when it comes to insurace to say you don't have anything. Eg Alarm, smoke, CO etc. The savings to be had are miniscule compared to the hassle if God forbid anything were to happen.

deadanonymau5 · 03-10-2017 6:01pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

Guys- anyone who is buying these- they are not compliant with HAP housing rules, nor are they acceptable under house insurance, as an alarm. These are for peace of mind- but they are not a replacement for a formal alarm system.

^A MOD kicks off the chat in a "No Chat" thread...:rolleyes:

harr wrote: »

I didn’t know that...what’s the reason they are non complaint..I have a couple in my own house any reason in particular or are theay just **** quality ?
Would you recommend a better one...

iwillhtfu wrote: »

What is classed as a formal alarm system? I doubt it's a fire alarm panel along the lines of gent etc. and the only difference between these and the standard these days would be mains connection wit battery back up as opposed to battery being the primary source of power.

Acceptable under house insurance? Is it a requirement of house insurance that carbon monoxide alarms are present. I don't ever recall reading that.

bromley52 wrote: »

Many systems people have in their homes are not compliant. It's always best when it comes to insurace to say you don't have anything. Eg Alarm, smoke, CO etc. The savings to be had are miniscule compared to the hassle if God forbid anything were to happen.

bromley52 · 03-10-2017 7:27pm

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

^A MOD kicks off the chat in a "No Chat" thread...:rolleyes:

This is a chat thread.

The_Conductor · 03-10-2017 7:34pm

harr wrote: »

I didn’t know that...what’s the reason they are non complaint..I have a couple in my own house any reason in particular or are theay just **** quality ?
Would you recommend a better one...

To be compliant they have to have the 10 year battery (for smoke alarms) and be wired into a central system (for a CO detector).

As per the above poster- the course of least resistance- is to simply say you don't have a detector, when answering the question about detectors on your home insurance check list.

The_Conductor · 03-10-2017 7:34pm

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

^A MOD kicks off the chat in a "No Chat" thread...:rolleyes:

:P

iwillhtfu · 03-10-2017 8:03pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

To be compliant they have to have the 10 year battery (for smoke alarms) and be wired into a central system (for a CO

I'd call bull **** on that one maybe the written word but a battery with a 10 year life span I can't see it.

Also what is this centralised system you refer to? Any link to this requirement?

The_Conductor · 03-10-2017 8:06pm

iwillhtfu wrote: »

I'd call bull **** on that one maybe the written word but a battery with a 10 year life span I can't see it.

Also what is this centralised system you refer to? Any link to this requirement?

Its in the HAP checklist- we have several discussions on it over in the Accommodation and Property forum. Its perfectly safe and legal to rent a house to a normal tenant- with a regular fire or CO detector- but not a HAP tenant- who is entitled to have specs which meet current building regs (regardless of when the building was constructed).

iwillhtfu · 03-10-2017 8:32pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

Its in the HAP checklist- we have several discussions on it over in the Accommodation and Property forum. Its perfectly safe and legal to rent a house to a normal tenant- with a regular fire or CO detector- but not a HAP tenant- who is entitled to have specs which meet current building regs (regardless of when the building was constructed).

I wouldn't be taking the HAP check list as gospel I'd like to see a link to the tech spec or legal requirement as it sounds like a made up requirement tbh. I can't see someone retro fitting main powered alarms to a house willingly it's a messy job. Current building regs aren't applied retrospectively afaik. Anyway I digress the alarms linked are sound and fit for purpose imo but yes there are better systems.

Invincible · 04-10-2017 1:49pm

Orobhsa wrote: »

Sony KDL49WE663BU 49 Inch Smart Full HD TV with HDR €599.99 Cheapest price around.

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/6873956.htm

On lookout for new tv. Any good?

It wasn't long until they increased the price by 100!
If you're on the lookout for a TV, richersounds.com are hard to beat with the assurance of their 6 year warranty on screens!

vicwatson · 10-10-2017 7:41am

Lenovo 10” tan that was posted in the Argos bargains thread - anyone any experience of this? Tried to find reviews online but no go, anyone know where to see reviews and full spec?

wally79 · 10-10-2017 8:57am

vicwatson wrote: »

Lenovo 10” tan that was posted in the Argos bargains thread - anyone any experience of this? Tried to find reviews online but no go, anyone know where to see reviews and full spec?

GSMarena.com is usually good for spec

Think the Argos one is 16gb version of below

https://m.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab3_10-7953.php

Here’s a review
http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/android-tablets/lenovo-tab3-android-tablet-hands-on-review-3635416/

google “lenovo tab 3 10.1 16gb review” for reviews. A few out there

10-10-2017 9:53am

vicwatson wrote: »

Lenovo 10” tan that was posted in the Argos bargains thread - anyone any experience of this? Tried to find reviews online but no go, anyone know where to see reviews and full spec?

It's decent enough. Main weakness would be screen resolution (it's not Full HD) and onboard storage of 16GB. Even if you use an external SD for media, you won't be able to move a lot of apps from internal storage, and it can easily be filled up. I know this is the case with one of my kids who is constantly downloading games.

Finding exact specs on these tablets can be a nightmare, even when you click on this tablet on the Lenovo site, it takes you to the Yogo Tab 3 specs.

Ghost Train · 10-10-2017 10:11am

vicwatson wrote: »

Lenovo 10” tan that was posted in the Argos bargains thread - anyone any experience of this? Tried to find reviews online but no go, anyone know where to see reviews and full spec?

I haven't any major complaints about it. Screen and sound seem ok for price. Have a cheap Kindle fire 7" with poor viewing angle, this would be much better than that

Argos UK site has user reviews
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6779469

vicwatson · 10-10-2017 10:46am

Id be using it for watching movies off an SD card only, ok for that?

SmallTeapot · 11-10-2017 10:36am

Just wondering does anyone have inkling if the argos vouchers are due back at some stage in the near future? (I.e Free €10 voucher when you spend €100 or more; Free €5 voucher when you spend €50 or more)

I vaguely remember the promotion running October last year....but not sure if there is a pattern with respect to how frequently the offer appears.....or indeed if it's scheduled

Thanks

vicwatson · 11-10-2017 11:14am

wally79 wrote: »

GSMarena.com is usually good for spec

Think the Argos one is 16gb version of below

https://m.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab3_10-7953.php

Here’s a review
http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/android-tablets/lenovo-tab3-android-tablet-hands-on-review-3635416/

google “lenovo tab 3 10.1 16gb review” for reviews. A few out there

This gone back to €139.99 when I went to collect it yesterday but as I has a reservation at 109.99 they honoured it, I like Argos for doing that.

GY A1 · 11-10-2017 3:20pm

vicwatson wrote: »

This gone back to €139.99 when I went to collect it yesterday but as I has a reservation at 109.99 they honoured it, I like Argos for doing that.

How's this looking for you so far
Good buy ?

vicwatson · 11-10-2017 4:53pm

GY A1 wrote: »

How's this looking for you so far
Good buy ?

Haven’t had time to get into it. Will let ya know

Sparkles2012 · 17-10-2017 2:42pm

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/7502996/Trail/searchtext%3EACER+SWIFT+LAPTOP+.htm

I am looking to buy an Acer Laptop is the one in the link above good? It seems a great reduction in price.

wintertime · 17-10-2017 3:50pm

Hi there, Looking for some advice. Ordered something through the Agros website and got a reservation number. Went to collect it today (could collect yesterday, today or tomorrow) and they didn't have it. Spoke to the manager and he said that they had no stock and no stock was ever assigned to my reservation number. In my book that is FRAUD if you are selling an item you don't have in stock. I was told to re order but as i had got this item at a discount I would miss this discount if I have to re order. I am also very annoyed having to travel to their shop which also cost me time and money. I believe they have a duty to honour this reservation!

Who should I report this to? Argos doesn't have a head office here in Ireland which is also a bit weird.

iwillhtfu · 17-10-2017 3:58pm

wintertime wrote: »

Hi there, Looking for some advice. Ordered something through the Agros website and got a reservation number. Went to collect it today (could collect yesterday, today or tomorrow) and they didn't have it. Spoke to the manager and he said that they had no stock and no stock was ever assigned to my reservation number. In my book that is FRAUD if you are selling an item you don't have in stock. I was told to re order but as i had got this item at a discount I would miss this discount if I have to re order. I am also very annoyed having to travel to their shop which also cost me time and money. I believe they have a duty to honour this reservation!

Who should I report this to? Argos doesn't have a head office here in Ireland which is also a bit weird.

How can you possibly reorder if they have no stock? Is the item in stock now?

If they're planning on getting more stock in then your original order should be fulfilled and price honoured. I've always found argos to be good at honouring reservations even when late to collect.

Yawns · 17-10-2017 3:59pm

Double check the email and see if there is an actual reservation number. It's common in situations that you can make a reservation for an item due in a few days time but not get an actual number beside the reservation space.

They don't have any duty to honor any reservation by the way. The same way even if you reserved something for a set price, the day you go in to collect they can say "oh sorry that's a mis-price, the actual price is x."

Look up invitation to treat. It's not fraud. What has happened for years is that Argos usually are very very good at honouring price mismatches. They don't legally have to tho. They do it for customer good will.

wintertime · 17-10-2017 4:12pm

Yawns wrote: »

Double check the email and see if there is an actual reservation number. It's common in situations that you can make a reservation for an item due in a few days time but not get an actual number beside the reservation space.

They don't have any duty to honor any reservation by the way. The same way even if you reserved something for a set price, the day you go in to collect they can say "oh sorry that's a mis-price, the actual price is x."

Look up invitation to treat. It's not fraud. What has happened for years is that Argos usually are very very good at honouring price mismatches. They don't legally have to tho. They do it for customer good will.

Thanks for your reply. I have a reservation number on the email. The manager said they have no stock and he checked my reservation number and said that no stock was assigned to my number and suggested I reorder another time so I guess that they must plan on getting more in. I found both him and the other staff member couldn't explain why no stock was assigned to my reservation number BUT were not helpful.

Had never heard of invitation to treat but in my book this is FRAUD. I went there to collect an item I had ordered to collect there!

Kimbot · 17-10-2017 4:14pm

wintertime wrote: »

Thanks for your reply. I have a reservation number on the email. The manager said they have no stock and he checked my reservation number and said that no stock was assigned to my number and suggested I reorder another time so I guess that they must plan on getting more in. I found both him and the other staff member couldn't explain why no stock was assigned to my reservation number BUT were not helpful.

Had never heard of invitation to treat but in my book this is FRAUD. I went there to collect an item I had ordered to collect there!

Well your book may need a reprint cos it aint fraud.

RobbingBandit · 17-10-2017 4:17pm

Lego Ninjago set is bloody huge, great price

Yawns · 17-10-2017 4:19pm

It's a very unusual case for Argos tho tbh. It's clearly an error with the system. If you are nice and polite, ask him can they extend your reservation number for when the stock comes in and assign the item for the price on reservation. It may be possible.

Altho I hope you didn't tell the manager it was fraud, because as has been said, it's certainly not.

Yawns · 17-10-2017 4:21pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Lego Ninjago set is bloody huge, great price

Yes I picked a set up last week and the girl who took the order was shocked. She was asking the guy why he brought that out. He said that's what was to be sent out. They double checked the number in front of me before handing it over. It had already been paid for at the til 2 minutes previously so they had no chance of refusing it at that time.

It was still €70 at the time in smyths..

IvoryTower · 17-10-2017 4:39pm

sorry i missed that one

ButtersSuki · 17-10-2017 4:50pm

wintertime wrote: »

Hi there, Looking for some advice. Ordered something through the Agros website and got a reservation number. Went to collect it today (could collect yesterday, today or tomorrow) and they didn't have it. Spoke to the manager and he said that they had no stock and no stock was ever assigned to my reservation number. In my book that is FRAUD if you are selling an item you don't have in stock. I was told to re order but as i had got this item at a discount I would miss this discount if I have to re order. I am also very annoyed having to travel to their shop which also cost me time and money. I believe they have a duty to honour this reservation!

Who should I report this to? Argos doesn't have a head office here in Ireland which is also a bit weird.

Over-react much?

I'd tell you all of the reasons you're wrong and what's incorrect about your post but I think that's pretty much already been covered.

Yawns wrote: »

It's a very unusual case for Argos tho tbh. It's clearly an error with the system. If you are nice and polite, ask him can they extend your reservation number for when the stock comes in and assign the item for the price on reservation. It may be possible.

Altho I hope you didn't tell the manager it was fraud, because as has been said, it's certainly not.

Try the above approach highlighted in bold. I think you'll find people (esp. in retail) are far more amenable to you with this than blowing a fuse in anger. I (and many others on here) can testify to how accommodating Argos usually are in situations like the one outlined - and which they have no legal obligation to do btw.

The_Conductor · 17-10-2017 7:15pm

Sparkles2012 wrote: »

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/7502996/Trail/searchtext%3EACER+SWIFT+LAPTOP+.htm

I am looking to buy an Acer Laptop is the one in the link above good? It seems a great reduction in price.

Brand new processor (its a 4 core, 4 HT processor- with burst mode up to 3.6Ghz).
Nice display
Nice storage (256Gb SSD)
8Gb RAM- plenty for a W10 system

The only disappointing part of the specs for the laptop- is the integrated graphics- however, even that isn't a deal breaker- Intel integrated graphics are a lot better than they used be.

Its quite powerful- a good all-rounder- and an absolute no-brainer (unless you're a gamer- in which case a discrete graphics option is a must).

Brand new platform- its the most power Ui5 processor you can get- and its remarkably power efficient (this is one of the 15W systems).

If I were buying a new laptop- I'd be very happy to nab this.

keavebm · 18-10-2017 10:45am

Bush fridge freezer 149.99. Seems to be a mis price. Item number 541/9012

flangemeistro · 18-10-2017 11:49am

keavebm wrote: »

Bush fridge freezer 149.99. Seems to be a mis price. Item number 541/9012

Out of stock

keavebm · 18-10-2017 11:55am

flangemeistro wrote:

Out of stock

Was in stock when posted

cefh17 · 18-10-2017 12:39pm

keavebm wrote: »

Was in stock when posted

If anyone has a code for Galway/Castlebar and doesn't want it I'll more than happily take it. We're on the look out for a second fridge for the new apartment as the one we have is more like a beer fridge :pac::(

The_Conductor · 18-10-2017 12:39pm

keavebm wrote: »

Was in stock when posted

I racked my head for an hour- but couldn't think of what to do with another fridge. Hopefully some of ye got one.

Erik Shin · 18-10-2017 1:21pm

Probably not a misprice, it's £115 in the English stores... but still, it's a good bargain for somebody kitting out a flat or something

Ryath · 18-10-2017 4:12pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Lego Ninjago set is bloody huge, great price

Didn't realize how big a set it was amazing value. Was even cheaper when I picked it up today @€;19.39

Might be worth checking later some might appear in stock if people don't pick up their reservations.

Kat1170 · 18-10-2017 5:20pm

Ryath wrote: »

Didn't realize how big a set it was amazing value. Was even cheaper when I picked it up today @€;19.39 Might be worth checking later some might appear in stock if people don't pick up their reservations.

Which set ??

Ryath · 18-10-2017 5:30pm

Kat1170 wrote: »

Which set ??

Was in no chat Argos thread
http://www.checkargos.com/product/7285976

Canonfan · 19-10-2017 1:31pm

If you can't find Lego Ninjago from Irish store, try their ebay store

Price is €19.39 + €6.99 delivery to Ireland.

Jacovs · 19-10-2017 4:44pm

Canonfan wrote: »

If you can't find Lego Ninjago from Irish store, try their ebay store

Price is €19.39 + €6.99 delivery to Ireland.

Out of stock too.

21-10-2017 11:16am

p225886 wrote: »

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/7119640.htm?desktopSiteActive=true&_$ja=tsid%3A30390%7Cprd%3A8088783
Lego star wars destroyer no stock but can be ordered. Reduced from 125 to 42. Perfect for Christmas.

What's the story with stuff you "order"? Do they text/email you when it's ready for collection? Or do you just have to keep checking the store?

ablelocks · 21-10-2017 11:32am

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the story with stuff you "order"? Do they text/email you when it's ready for collection? Or do you just have to keep checking the store?

text and or email depending on if you give them both or not when it's available for collection - you normally get 24-48 hours to collect it.

Macker2001 · 21-10-2017 11:42am

Canonfan wrote: »

If you can't find Lego Ninjago from Irish store, try their ebay store

Price is €19.39 + €6.99 delivery to Ireland.

Just want to say thanks for this. It's on the way.

flangemeistro · 21-10-2017 11:43am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's the story with stuff you "order"? Do they text/email you when it's ready for collection? Or do you just have to keep checking the store?

I can see the Lego being called a misprice and not honoured.
Happened me last week with a Lavazza coffee set.
Got the messages saying ready for collection sent the wife up cause she was going to the cinema and the extremely rude red haired female manager told her she couldn't have it for €4 but could pay €16 for it because it was a misprice.
I emailed Argos and got a call back from an English accent all apologies saying I shouldn't have got the message because there physically wasn't any stock, I said if that's the case why was my wife given the opportunity to buy them for €16, you can imagine how silent she went after this saying she would contact the store and get back to me straight away.

That was last Monday.

21-10-2017 11:45am

I thought it must be a misprice too but I checked the Argos Ireland eBay store and it's the same price there too!

Kat1170 · 21-10-2017 12:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought it must be a misprice too but I checked the Argos Ireland eBay store and it's the same price there too!

Which for some strange reason is in the UK

mcgovern · 21-10-2017 1:54pm

When I try to order to reserve now it doesn't go through

Argos RIP thread

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