International travel this summer.. I need me holidays..

spurious · 01-04-2021 12:08pm

Have deferred and deferred a week in Spain originally booked for Jan 2020, then May 2020, May 2021 and now hoping to get going Oct 2021.
Won't go if the govt. advisory is not to, but hoping vaccinations etc. will make it possible.
Already have a severe Vit D deficiency due to a number of conditions, but dread to think what a blood test now would show.
Fingers crossed for October.

glic83 · 01-04-2021 1:16pm

At what stage last year did the travel agents start cancelling holidays?

average_runner · 01-04-2021 4:18pm

acequion wrote: »

Can you share the link to where they said that please?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/22/airlines-axe-summer-flights-minister-says-european-countries/

average_runner · 01-04-2021 4:21pm

DessieJames wrote: »

i doubt it, people will go away on their droves this summer,those who didnt last year wont be staying in the rain in this country in some rip off hotel,i certainly wont be anyway July or August ill be sunning myself by the pool with a cold beer in hand and singlasses on,.

Our campsite in France is using a "peace of mind" deal for this year where we cancel if needs be.

Was talking to a sales rep today about ours and she said alot of Irish has cancelled already or decided not to come. Holding out for next year.

Ray Donovan · 01-04-2021 11:28pm

spurious wrote: »

Have deferred and deferred a week in Spain originally booked for Jan 2020, then May 2020, May 2021 and now hoping to get going Oct 2021.
Won't go if the govt. advisory is not to, but hoping vaccinations etc. will make it possible.
Already have a severe Vit D deficiency due to a number of conditions, but dread to think what a blood test now would show.
Fingers crossed for October.

You won’t be going in 2022 not to mind 2021 if you are going to wait for the travel advisory to change.

Moragle · 02-04-2021 7:35am

spurious wrote: »

Have deferred and deferred a week in Spain originally booked for Jan 2020, then May 2020, May 2021 and now hoping to get going Oct 2021.
Won't go if the govt. advisory is not to, but hoping vaccinations etc. will make it possible.
Already have a severe Vit D deficiency due to a number of conditions, but dread to think what a blood test now would show.
Fingers crossed for October.

Why didn't you go in January 2020? Also you can buy oral vitamin d. Hope you get away in October

MayoSalmon · 02-04-2021 7:50am

beggars_bush wrote: »

If you write it out enough times it might actually come true

Have booked 3 foreign holidays this year starting August Bank Holiday.

Couldn't give a toss what the government say..if the flight is on....myself and the family are going

spurious · 03-04-2021 5:57pm

Ray Donovan wrote:

You wonâ€™t be going in 2022 not to mind 2021 if you are going to wait for the travel advisory to change.

Even if vaccinated? Home bound for a year here and alone for the last couple of months. Getting close to being a health issue.

Caranica · 03-04-2021 6:31pm

spurious wrote: »

Even if vaccinated? Home bound for a year here and alone for the last couple of months. Getting close to being a health issue.

You can still carry the virus after vaccination meaning there are risks associated with travel so it's not like a magic button to reopen travel.

Nobody knows when, and to what extent, non-essential international travel will be permitted

spurious · 03-04-2021 9:02pm

Moragle wrote:

Why didn't you go in January 2020? Also you can buy oral vitamin d. Hope you get away in October

Sorry that should have said booked IN Jan 2020. I have to get additional prescription levels of Vit D. The tablets don't hit the sides. Last doses were 25000iu in a little bottle - liquid that smelled like farmyard. Vile stuff.

Have to stay positive about going in Oct..

beggars_bush · 03-04-2021 9:56pm

spurious wrote: »

Sorry that should have said booked IN Jan 2020. I have to get additional prescription levels of Vit D. The tablets don't hit the sides. Last doses were 25000iu in a little bottle - liquid that smelled like farmyard. Vile stuff.

Have to stay positive about going in Oct..

You can buy a Vit D lamp to combat SADs

The Davestator · 04-04-2021 6:06am

Caranica wrote: »

You can still carry the virus after vaccination meaning there are risks associated with travel so it's not like a magic button to reopen travel.

Nobody knows when, and to what extent, non-essential international travel will be permitted

That was an assumption and one that has been proven to be false. Real world Phizer studies shows it prevents or massively reduces transmission.

Moragle · 04-04-2021 7:29am

spurious wrote: »

Sorry that should have said booked IN Jan 2020. I have to get additional prescription levels of Vit D. The tablets don't hit the sides. Last doses were 25000iu in a little bottle - liquid that smelled like farmyard. Vile stuff.

Have to stay positive about going in Oct..

You can get prescription capsules with 25000 iu instead of the bottles, not as hard to take

Mrtm17 · 05-04-2021 8:58am

So what the chances of holidays to spaon or Portugal this year. To book or not

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 9:08am

"I just need to get away every year" = "My life is empty"

McSween · 05-04-2021 10:34am

Mrtm17 wrote: »

So what the chances of holidays to spaon or Portugal this year. To book or not

I think it is more difficult to get away before September but we have two children who have not started school and we havent ruled out going before the wnd of the year. It will be our last year before school takes over.

05-04-2021 12:17pm

I've booked Spain for the start of July. All the vulnerable and elderly will be vaccinated by then and life should be returning to normal.

tampopo · 05-04-2021 2:07pm

Mrsmac2599 wrote: »

What exactly happens at Dublin Airport, are checkpoints outside or inside the Airport?

Garda at the gate, where you go airside. According to a Polish acquaintance

Sheep Shagger · 05-04-2021 2:08pm

Dobbytoes wrote: »

I've booked Spain for the start of July. All the vulnerable and elderly will be vaccinated by then and life should be returning to normal.

Think that's a bit optimistic.

Can see places abroad being jammed with the Brits too.

Ladylouth · 05-04-2021 3:21pm

I agree with Punk IPA above. I have had cancer more than once, am middle aged and happy to accept health risks of Covid, as quite frankly it pales compared to my continued high risk of cancer. The confidence I had in the cancer services, to pick up and respond to any recurrence early, is pretty much gone now, as all my appointments have been cancelled this year. My life with my family is for living now. When we travel, we do not mix with others anyway, so there is no great increase in risk compared to being here. For the first lockdown, we complied completely. Travelled abroad last summer against advice, and will do so again if at all possible this year. We all have one shot at life, and for me now is the time for living.

fletch · 05-04-2021 10:21pm

Mrtm17 wrote: »

So what the chances of holidays to spaon or Portugal this year. To book or not

Why not just book free cancellation? I have booked holidays to various destinations all over Europe for every week during August, September and some of October. Probably won't get to go on any of them but can just cancel with no loss. If it looks like I can go on any of them, I'll book a flight as late as possible. Set up calendar reminders so you don't forget to cancel before the free cancellation dates.

opinionated3 · 06-04-2021 10:48am

Bloomberg reporting that Europe could actually achieve their targeted vaccination numbers by end of June. That's around the 60% marker I believe, in terms of herd immunity through vaccinating. You would imagine that augurs well for a holiday from around August onwards?

bridest · 06-04-2021 3:02pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Whilst I understand and respect the thought process of the above poster, its not all about them though. If they contract thw virus and are living their life without adhering to restrictions they could easily give it to a vulnerable member of society who is not yet vaccinated.

So they enjoy the holiday in Spain or wherever but at what cost to everyone else?

We didn't have to worry about the vulnerable member of society when it came to flu. God knows you could have infected 1000s of people in the past and not have known it, maybe even killed somebody as a result!

A question, unrelated to this... But we appear to have lost something... The flu.. Did anybody find it?

Topps · 06-04-2021 11:37pm

Everyone.. Once again this forum is not about if its right or wrong to travel this year or next. I'm sure boards.ie has another forum if you want to discuss and debate this. Half of the Internet is debating the same topic, can we please keep to specifics. I set this up to discuss latest news and updates on travel restrictions in Ireland.

I understand there is some overlap for sure but let's not go down a rabbit hole.

Jpmarn · 06-04-2021 11:43pm

I am hoping to travel somewhere abroad this autumn. But it really depends on the safety and how well the vaccines are working especially with new variants of concern existing and in the future. It will also depends on any restrictions of the time here in Ireland and how capable the virus is at overwhelming hospitals and other health services. I would be choosing a destination that would have a low rate of disease and the local population are mainly vaccinated. Although I don’t plan on traveling beyond Europe the USA and some of the Caribbean countries could be safe enough due the high levels of vaccination. I don’t anticipate that Australia and New Zealand be opened up to travel into until next year.

DessieJames · 07-04-2021 2:48pm

100% going abroad this year and i cant wait either, anywhere as long as its hot and has beaches and bars

ninebeanrows · 08-04-2021 7:16pm

Reposted due to link error

If you believe Ireland is breaching EU law and treaties as i do with Mandatory Hotel Quarantine of EU citizens with negative COVID PCR tests then please please take 5 minutes to lodge a complaint to the commission

To lodge a complain about Ireland to the commission
The link again for anyone seeking to lodge a complaint: https://ec.europa.eu/assets/sg/report-a-breach/complaints_en/

It is very straight forward

Barney224 · 11-04-2021 11:18am

I have access to a holiday villa in South Spain for 1st 2 weeks of September. Do you reckon this will be a possibilty? Just wondering whether I should risk purchasing tickets for the family.

HBC08 · 11-04-2021 11:29am

Have had to cancel two holidays to Portugal but have booked again for mid sept,should be grand by then i reckon.Im vaccinated so that might help.
A bigger worry for me is i have to go to Australia in November, the very strict 2 week quarantine (at $3000aus ) is going to be a killer on many levels,involves taking 5 weeks off work aswell.

KanyeSouthEast · 11-04-2021 12:27pm

HBC08 wrote: »

Have had to cancel two holidays to Portugal but have booked again for mid sept,should be grand by then i reckon.Im vaccinated so that might help.
A bigger worry for me is i have to go to Australia in November, the very strict 2 week quarantine (at $3000aus ) is going to be a killer on many levels,involves taking 5 weeks off work aswell.

Do you reckon mid September is a possibility even for Portugal though?

HBC08 · 11-04-2021 1:12pm

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

Do you reckon mid September is a possibility even for Portugal though?

Ah yeah id say so.
Maybe im being overly optimistic ( i did book a flight to Portugal for May in January! Which i got refunded for)
I think the vaccines are really going flood in pretty soon and things will be fairly normal by the late summer.

Marcusm · 11-04-2021 2:15pm

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

Do you reckon mid September is a possibility even for Portugal though?

I was hoping to go Jun-Sept. realistically I think Euro travel will be curtailed until end of June but from Jun 28, I do not think that the blanket restrictions can or will be sustained.

Infection levels in Portugal are much lower than here and the peak infection points are in Lisbon and Porto regions. The Algarve has been sustainably low for a long time. U.K. tourists seem likely to pose a lower threat level than last year (in connection with seeding virus) and the Portuguese govt has shown willingness to close the border with Spain when necessary.

TheFairy · 12-04-2021 10:12am

So we are both now vaccinated, i have my 2nd next Sunday. We missed our 25th Wedding Anniversary during lockdown, and a few other key milestones. We had a holiday booked for end of May, so have lost part of the deposit on that, not overly worried about that, when I booked I knew there was an element of risk.

So we've booked our go to holiday for end of Sept, Chania in Crete for 12 days. Weather there is around 25 degrees at that time of year and it doesnt suffer from mass tourism etc, a great place to get away from it all.

Unless something really mad happens with a new variant I cant see why we couldn't travel, I feel we are both safe to go etc.

SusanC10 · 12-04-2021 10:15am

TheFairy wrote: »

So we are both now vaccinated, i have my 2nd next Sunday. We missed our 25th Wedding Anniversary during lockdown, and a few other key milestones. We had a holiday booked for end of May, so have lost part of the deposit on that, not overly worried about that, when I booked I knew there was an element of risk.

So we've booked our go to holiday for end of Sept, Chania in Crete for 12 days. Weather there is around 25 degrees at that time of year and it doesnt suffer from mass tourism etc, a great place to get away from it all.

Unless something really mad happens with a new variant I cant see why we couldn't travel, I feel we are both safe to go etc.

Chania is lovely. Enjoy ! If we didn't have kids of a school-going age, we would be seriously considering something similar.

12-04-2021 10:16am

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Reposted due to link error

If you believe Ireland is breaching EU law and treaties as i do with Mandatory Hotel Quarantine of EU citizens with negative COVID PCR tests then please please take 5 minutes to lodge a complaint to the commission

To lodge a complain about Ireland to the commission
The link again for anyone seeking to lodge a complaint: https://ec.europa.eu/assets/sg/report-a-breach/complaints_en/

It is very straight forward

The problem with that is,the government will claim they are NOT stopping you travelling to another EU country
They have imposed quarantine for when you come back
You are free to travel and if its an unneccessary journey according to the national competency of our public health laws,after you are warned about the hefty fine
None of that is illegal,its actually statute made under a national not an EU competency
Sorry

TheFairy · 12-04-2021 11:50am

SusanC10 wrote: »

Chania is lovely. Enjoy ! If we didn't have kids of a school-going age, we would be seriously considering something similar.

LOL this will be our 7th time to the same apartment. We stay just off Nea Chora beach, its about 15-20 mins walk from the old town along the coast.

colly10 · 12-04-2021 10:44pm

Is the 2k fine for flying out or just for not doing quarantine?
Will the 2k fine remain when we’re not at level 5?
Are the gards still hanging round the airport?

13-04-2021 9:46am

colly10 wrote: »

Is the 2k fine for flying out or just for not doing quarantine?
Will the 2k fine remain when we’re not at level 5?
Are the gards still hanging round the airport?

The 2k fine is for an unnessary journey at the airport
You will be asked just before boarding by a Garda what the purpose of travel is
If they are not satisfied with your reply,you will be advised that a fixed pebalty notice for €2000 will be posted to your home address and on return you will have 6 weeks to pay it in full
There is no scope for a payment plan
Its per person
The parent pays the kids fine
So for a family of 4,thats an €8000 fine when you get home

colly10 · 13-04-2021 10:40am

Marine Layer wrote: »

The 2k fine is for an unnessary journey at the airport
You will be asked just before boarding by a Garda what the purpose of travel is
If they are not satisfied with your reply,you will be advised that a fixed pebalty notice for €2000 will be posted to your home address and on return you will have 6 weeks to pay it in full
There is no scope for a payment plan
Its per person
The parent pays the kids fine
So for a family of 4,thats an €8000 fine when you get home

So they fine a 6 month old

Think i’ll just fly from belfast

neris · 13-04-2021 11:10am

I was due down in Spain for Easter and meant to be back yesterday. Was going down to see my parents whove been there since last year. Changed the flights a few days before the leaving as we thought the hassle at Dublin airport with the Gardai would be too much. Getting tests done wasnt a problem. After hearing the crap out of nphet about a 4th wave yesterday and seeing where the UK are now I do regret not going.

13-04-2021 11:36am

colly10 wrote: »

So they fine a 6 month old
Think i’ll just fly from belfast

Its actually illegal to fly from there at the moment without a valid reason and when it is according to Borris you will need 2 pcr tests so 2 to 300 per person extra
Also if your destination gets onto a red list,you'll have to get back quick or you will be quarantining in England if its via belfast and england you went with an Irish home address
Its not simple

The Davestator · 13-04-2021 12:04pm

Marine Layer wrote: »

Its actually illegal to fly from there at the moment without a valid reason and when it is according to Borris you will need 2 pcr tests so 2 to 300 per person extra
Also if your destination gets onto a red list,you'll have to get back quick or you will be quarantining in England if its via belfast and england you went with an Irish home address
Its not simple

Its far from complicated. Only someone listening to too much RTE believes that!

gardai are barely there and there are so many reasons for travel, you'd be silly to get fined. Yes, the PCR tests add up but worth it

13-04-2021 12:43pm

If you happen to be lucky
I certainly wouldnt be advising risking a fine at the moment especially with a family in tow
Even on single tickets your return can be recorded
Regardless Id imagine things will have improved by August and fines will be gone
Not giving them a present of it myself in the meantime but hey ho,each to their own,you take your own risks

colly10 · 13-04-2021 1:03pm

The Davestator wrote: »

gardai are barely there and there are so many reasons for travel, you'd be silly to get fined. Yes, the PCR tests add up but worth it

They’re rarely in Dublin airport? If so they’ll be there even less in June/July

YoshiReturns · 13-04-2021 1:10pm

We're all goin' on a summer holiday
No more workin' for a week or two
Fun and laughter on a summer holiday
No more worries for me or you
For a week or two

Spreading covid variant p1 and p2
To me and you
In a week or two
Sad, but true
What will we do?
Just more worry for me and you.

(edit)
Sorry! That tune just came into my head.

I need a ... holiday !

NSAman · 13-04-2021 1:13pm

I see sheep wrote: »

Bit pricy but Seychelles are open for business
https://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/africa-indian-ocean/seychelles-to-fully-open-borders-march-25-regardless-vaccination-status
Once people who live there are vaccinated, tourists welcome (regardless of vaccinated status)

I would go back in a heartbeat.....paradise!

jrosen · 16-04-2021 4:04pm

I live in hope. As soon as we are vaccinated we will book something, even if its just 4/5 days away for myself and the hubby. I dont care where just to get on a flight and leave Ireland to some sunshine and nice food and wine. We have both booked some time off in December in hope of taking the trip we had to cancel last year with the kids. So fingers crossed. But its an activity based trip so only prepared to go if all aspects are open.

Blut2 · 16-04-2021 6:21pm

colly10 wrote: »

Is the 2k fine for flying out or just for not doing quarantine?
Will the 2k fine remain when we’re not at level 5?
Are the gards still hanging round the airport?

The gardai have checkpoints on the roads into the airport at various times, and sometimes an officer at the security checkpoint. Both just ask you where you're going, and if you give a response that meets one of the many legal reasons to travel they wave you on instantly.

The following are ”reasonable excuses” for travelling to a port or airport for the purposes of travelling abroad as set out in the Health Act 1947 (Section 31A – Temporary Restrictions) COVID-19) (No 10)(Amendment)(No 2) Regulations 2021 as amended:

To go to college or school if you have to be there in person
To go with a child or a vulnerable adult to school if they have to be there in person
To work or travel related to your business
To go to a medical or dental appointment, or to go to an appointment with someone you live with, or a vulnerable person
To seek essential medical, health or dental services, or to accompany someone you live with, or a vulnerable person who needs essential treatment
To care for a family member or for other vital family reasons
To go to a funeral
To meet a legal obligation (for example, to appear in court)
To give access to a child to the other parent of the child, or to access a child that you have a right of access to
To leave Ireland if you are not resident in Ireland

So if you're going to a funeral, or a medical appointment or any of the above(or just claim to be...) you're fine. No problems at all.

The only people getting fined are ones who're thick enough to tell the gardai they're going on holiday and/or who try to argue their right to travel without an excuse with them.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_abroad/travelling_abroad_during_covid.html

The Witches Cat · 18-04-2021 5:01pm

Florence last Summer.
Paris last Autumn

Barcelona next August

McSween · 25-04-2021 12:46pm

Michael Martin today has said they will examine travel mid July and Ireland cant stay closed forever.

I think they will open travel fully from September - with many people vaccinated by then and young families (with unvaccinated children) will be out of the holiday equation as they will be back at school.

International travel this summer.. I need me holidays..

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