International travel this summer.. I need me holidays..

Topps

Anyone have any plans to travel this summer internationally? Leo just mentioned no international travel this summer.... I would expect most EU countries will require a negative test, anti bodies or proof of vaccine and then a quarantine when you return to Ireland. It seems all negative but what are peoples thoughts? Will we be advised not to go but still technically allowed go for non essential purposes or will they be stricter this summer than last? Also the option to fly from Belfast.. Anyway I can't be the only one wondering. What are people thinking?

fdevine

Had to reschedule lasts years planned holiday to France and have all but written off plans to go this year

I think anyone expecting to travel to mainland Europe before September won't find it straighforward, if even possible

It's not even certain at the moment the extent to which hospitality will be operating here. Indoor eating may not even be an option for months to come or indeed when intercounty travel will be permitted

At best travel outside the country will be discouraged IMO and if anything we could see tighter restrictions than last summer but it's too early to call and the situation is currently too fluid to guess

ozzy jr

I’m hoping to get to Thailand in late November.

This is based on me getting a vaccination by then, and international travel being allowed.

I won’t be going if I have to quarantine at either end or if I have to pay extra for any tests.

I have it in my head that I won’t get away, so if I do it’ll be a bonus.

Tenzor07

Topps wrote: »

Anyone have any plans to travel this summer internationally? Leo just mentioned no international travel this summer....

Couldn't care less what Leaky says...

International travel will happen this year, will be a lot more complicated than last year with the different rates countries are vaccinating...

However Airlines and Hotels will have many special offers, even with the threat of a €500 fine for leaving your own country to holiday it's still going to be better value to go abroad..

Caranica

Tenzor07 wrote: »

However Airlines and Hotels will have many special offers, even with the threat of a €500 fine for leaving your own country to holiday it's still going to be better value to go abroad..

Fines are increasing to 2k and it's per person and can be charged each way.

Van.Bosch

Caranica wrote: »

Fines are increasing to 2k and it's per person and can be charged each way.

I still don’t see how it can be charged each way. Fined for non essential travel on the way out fine. The way you are going home, that’s essential in my book.

Caranica

Van.Bosch wrote: »

I still don’t see how it can be charged each way. Fined for non essential travel on the way out fine. The way you are going home, that’s essential in my book.

First one is to the airport, second one is non essential travel.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/over-370-people-fined-going-to-or-from-dublin-airport-for-trips-abroad-in-a-week-1.4477372

angel eyes 2012

Caranica wrote: »

First one is to the airport, second one is non essential travel.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/over-370-people-fined-going-to-or-from-dublin-airport-for-trips-abroad-in-a-week-1.4477372

I'd like to see the statistics on how many fines were actually paid. Issuing fines is one thing but actually enforcing them is entirely different.

I see sheep

Bit pricy but Seychelles are open for business
https://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/africa-indian-ocean/seychelles-to-fully-open-borders-march-25-regardless-vaccination-status
Once people who live there are vaccinated, tourists welcome (regardless of vaccinated status)

Van.Bosch

Caranica wrote: »

First one is to the airport, second one is non essential travel.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/over-370-people-fined-going-to-or-from-dublin-airport-for-trips-abroad-in-a-week-1.4477372

Doesn’t say people were fined twice though - right? Hopefully it passes or else the winner will be Belfast in July

Deseras

I would not worry about fines worry about death and killing your family

The AZD1222 vaccine against COVID-19 has an only efficacy of 63.09% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. Vs modena or phizer 83%

Rodin

Fines won't work.
The only thing that will is mandatory quarantine on return from everywhere.

Rodin

angel eyes 2012 wrote: »

I'd like to see the statistics on how many fines were actually paid. Issuing fines is one thing but actually enforcing them is entirely different.

I doubt many of the 80 fined for the traveller funeral in Leitrim will pay up.

beachhead

ozzy jr wrote: »

I’m hoping to get to Thailand in late November.

This is based on me getting a vaccination by then, and international travel being allowed.

I won’t be going if I have to quarantine at either end or if I have to pay extra for any tests.

I have it in my head that I won’t get away, so if I do it’ll be a bonus.

Thailand is open now.You are required by Thai gov to sign up to their racing app,ideally before travel.But try getting out of Dublin as other posters say.Mick and Leo will give in to pressure and do an xmas repeat and bo....x to the summer travel(or Sept)

Atlantic Dawn

I'm thinking August all EU travel open to us, October US travel open. The entire adult population of this country will be vaccinated by July/August.

Caranica

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Doesn’t say people were fined twice though - right? Hopefully it passes or else the winner will be Belfast in July

Did you miss the bit about patrols at the border

ratracer

angel eyes 2012 wrote: »

I'd like to see the statistics on how many fines were actually paid. Issuing fines is one thing but actually enforcing them is entirely different.

I wonder would one be jailed for non-payment of these fines...... I’d very much doubt it!

Richard tea

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I'm thinking August all EU travel open to us, October US travel open. The entire adult population of this country will be vaccinated by July/August.

Not sure what to do regarding USA travel. A holiday was booked for myself and my wife last year for this October. Briefly reading through the terms and conditions there would be a cancellation fee but it's not extortionate. How long would people give before cancelling ? The airlines involved are American airlines and British airways. Both of us are in good health so the last for vaccine I would imagine.

alchemist33

Had to cancel our US trip last year and withthe eldest turning 18 in December I'm keen we at least have one more proper family holiday. But it's unlikely it'll be a proper one so maybe a F1 race if we can get tickets late in the year, or a pre-Christmas trip to markets somewhere.
I'm even prepared to have a UK holiday in July if circumstances permit.

podgeandrodge

Planning USA travel in November. That's 8 months away. If we can't travel by then things are really going bad. Gotta assume travel from October on is more likely than unlikely.

Plumbthedepths

Belfast is a long drive but I have family there and if the nonsense continues here I will be looking into flights from NI.

Ironically people like you are the reason "this nonsense" continues

acequion

Caranica wrote: »

Did you miss the bit about patrols at the border

Did you miss the bit about core EU principle, "Freedom of movement?" Does that not mean anything to you? And did you also miss the bit about how progressive people in EU leadership, no less than president Ursula Van der Leyen, are pushing for vaccination passports in order to ensure such democratic rights will continue?

Caranica

acequion wrote: »

Did you miss the bit about core EU principle, "Freedom of movement?" Does that not mean anything to you? And did you also miss the bit about how progressive people in EU leadership, no less than president Ursula Van der Leyen, are pushing for vaccination passports in order to ensure such democratic rights will continue?

I was referring to the border with Northern Ireland, which is not in the EU!

The Davestator

Caranica wrote: »

I was referring to the border with Northern Ireland, which is not in the EU!

Fine is only €100 - well worth it to fly from Belfast

Ninthlife

Bunch of selfish *****

KanyeSouthEast

Ninthlife wrote: »

Bunch of selfish *****

I presume this is a windup?

Ninthlife

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

I presume this is a windup?

Why would it be a wind up?

People have been asked not to travel, people here are discussing travelling and openly accepting whatever fine may be received etc

Its selfish and exactly how the different variants have been spread.

ozzy jr

Ninthlife wrote: »

openly accepting whatever fine may be received etc

Not everyone in the thread is.

JayReale

Ninthlife wrote: »

Why would it be a wind up?

People have been asked not to travel, people here are discussing travelling and openly accepting whatever fine may be received etc

Its selfish and exactly how the different variants have been spread.

People here have been asked to do a lot of stuff during this pandemic, some of which make zero sense from a virus suppression perspective (5km limits for example.). Just because 'the experts' ask us to do something doesn't mean we cannot ignore their requests and instead use our own judgement and make our own risk-based decisions.

Dr.Dre

People are going to travel regardless of whatever 'fines' are being issued

Just as a matter of interest, has anyone here received a fine or know of anyone who has been fined?

Fine is not enough. Revoke passports at the airport

Ninthlife

JayReale wrote: »

People here have been asked to do a lot of stuff during this pandemic, some of which make zero sense from a virus suppression perspective (5km limits for example.). Just because 'the experts' ask us to do something doesn't mean we cannot ignore their requests and instead use our own judgement and make our own risk-based decisions.

I get what you are saying and yes people can make their own risk based decisions but its the consequences of those actions on others Im talking about.

Person A goes abroad, contracts Covid has no effects and is even unaware they havw it, goes home and infects a number of others on the plane, airport, the local Aldi...the list could go on.


Also those willing to drive to Belfast to fly off somewhere as the fine is lower are most likely not going to bother their ar*e quarantining either on their return

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Fine is not enough. Revoke passports at the airport

lol.

Renault 5

I’m sitting on the fence on people travelling.

People who stick their fingers up at Government advice and penalties. Good for you.


People who abide by Government advice and stay at home. Good for you.

wocmedia

Hi

Been looking to get my Coach Hire business off the ground but it's not happening with this covid stuff.

Plumbthedepths

Ninthlife wrote: »

I get what you are saying and yes people can make their own risk based decisions but its the consequences of those actions on others Im talking about.

Person A goes abroad, contracts Covid has no effects and is even unaware they havw it, goes home and infects a number of others on the plane, airport, the local Aldi...the list could go on.


Also those willing to drive to Belfast to fly off somewhere as the fine is lower are most likely not going to bother their ar*e quarantining either on their return

What airlines are allowing people to fly without a negative PCR test?

antix80

Ninthlife wrote: »

Bunch of selfish *****

Do you know of any good irish bars for Paddy's day around los cristianos, tenerife? Live music and guinness on draft a must.

JayReale

Ninthlife wrote: »

I get what you are saying and yes people can make their own risk based decisions but its the consequences of those actions on others Im talking about.

Person A goes abroad, contracts Covid has no effects and is even unaware they havw it, goes home and infects a number of others on the plane, airport, the local Aldi...the list could go on.


I agree that the above could be an issue if someone is travelling to a hotspot like Brasil or South Africa. However,, does it really matter if someone holidays domestically or abroad if their 'abroad' option is a European country with comparable CV-19 infection rates and virus strains as ourselves? I don't really see where the perceived additional risk lies in this latter scenario.

The Davestator

JayReale wrote: »

Ninthlife wrote: »

I get what you are saying and yes people can make their own risk based decisions but its the consequences of those actions on others Im talking about.

Person A goes abroad, contracts Covid has no effects and is even unaware they havw it, goes home and infects a number of others on the plane, airport, the local Aldi...the list could go on.


I agree that the above could be an issue if someone is travelling to a hotspot like Brasil or South Africa. However,, does it really matter if someone holidays domestically or abroad if their 'abroad' option is a European country with comparable CV-19 infection rates and virus strains as ourselves? I don't really see where the perceived additional risk lies in this latter scenario.

Exactly. And the person travelling has a negative test which people who are not travelling don't have.

Topps

Ninthlife wrote: »

Why would it be a wind up?

People have been asked not to travel, people here are discussing travelling and openly accepting whatever fine may be received etc

Its selfish and exactly how the different variants have been spread.

Can we please just give opinions on international travel rather than getting into an argument over who's right or wrong? If people want to argue over covid lockdown there is probably another forum.

beachhead

Makes me laugh to read about people planning their jollies for "the summer".It won't happen and Michael will keep advertising to wind people up.Think about November at the very earliest or take your bags on the ferry and then get a flight.

The Davestator

beachhead wrote: »

Makes me laugh to read about people planning their jollies for "the summer".It won't happen and Michael will keep advertising to wind people up.Think about November at the very earliest or take your bags on the ferry and then get a flight.

Makes me laugh when people are too petrified to live their lives in a safe manner but each to their own.

Mrsmac2599

What exactly happens at Dublin Airport, are checkpoints outside or inside the Airport?

DessieJames

100% going, i went last year and ill be going again, ill be ignoring the scareomngering and lies, ill go for longer this time only went for a short break alst year, anything to get the hell pit of this cesspit for a week.

DessieJames

Ninthlife wrote: »

Why would it be a wind up?

People have been asked not to travel, people here are discussing travelling and openly accepting whatever fine may be received etc

Its selfish and exactly how the different variants have been spread.

Are you an FFG apologist :rolleyes:
you feel free to stay in lockdown all you want, the vast majority of people have had enough.

average_runner

DessieJames wrote: »

Are you an FFG apologist :rolleyes:
you feel free to stay in lockdown all you want, the vast majority of people have had enough.

Vast majority of people will stay in Ireland. Airlines already said flights will be dropped as demand very low!!


I say our flight will be cancelled also

acequion

average_runner wrote: »

Vast majority of people will stay in Ireland. Airlines already said flights will be dropped as demand very low!!


I say our flight will be cancelled also

Can you share the link to where they said that please?

DessieJames

average_runner wrote: »

Vast majority of people will stay in Ireland. Airlines already said flights will be dropped as demand very low!!


I say our flight will be cancelled also

i doubt it, people will go away on their droves this summer,those who didnt last year wont be staying in the rain in this country in some rip off hotel,i certainly wont be anyway July or August ill be sunning myself by the pool with a cold beer in hand and singlasses on,.

McSween

DessieJames wrote: »

i doubt it, people will go away on their droves this summer,those who didnt last year wont be staying in the rain in this country in some rip off hotel,i certainly wont be anyway July or August ill be sunning myself by the pool with a cold beer in hand and singlasses on,.

Theyd also say ‘this is great value,’

beggars_bush

DessieJames wrote: »

i doubt it, people will go away on their droves this summer,those who didnt last year wont be staying in the rain in this country in some rip off hotel,i certainly wont be anyway July or August ill be sunning myself by the pool with a cold beer in hand and singlasses on,.

If you write it out enough times it might actually come true