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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Again, you haven't said Y/N to this question (as per it's own patent):
    Do you believe that the quantum dot tatoo the mark of the beast as predicted in the bible?
    Y/N?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    See notgmail hasn't answered a simple question^, ah well.

    For those associating the QDT directly as the NOTB, that's a Negative (in it's current form).
    It is however, an important precourser, and tool for:

    i) An actual patented seperate embodiment.
    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606 this one is precisely for personal crypto monetary transactions (better match for NOTB type scenarios). This enhanced embodiment could well could use the QDT as an infrared spectroscopy (NIRS) sensor measurement, along with other metrics of unique measurements.
    QDT thus a complementary digital identifier for WO2020060606.

    ii) For a global universal DigitalID programe (via id2020.org). To establish the constant/persistant/static UnID chain pair-part, which then combined with any of 17 various biometrics (or indeed all). The pair then processed using Azure cloud blockchain. Not just as a monetary transaction, but as universal ID... for everything.
    Any large scale use, will avail of the latest iteration, as McHughs team are aiming to enhance data storage of this mark.

    Of course both of these are some years away, with an initial catchement target of 1.5bn or so, pre-2030.
    Certain developing countries, will also spearhead any use of fully Digital Identifers of Persons.

    In the meantime QDT in the next year or two onwards, can absolutely function, where used, as a digi-immune-cert (that's it's only purpose currently).
    Under any manditory type conditions, this embodiment can establish 'access' (or not) to opportunities, freedoms, public and private sector services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,153 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    See notgmail hasn't answered a simple question^, ah well.

    For those associating the QDT directly as the NOTB, that's a Negative (in it's current form).
    It is however, an important precourser, and tool for:

    i) An actual patented seperate embodiment.
    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606 this one is precisely for personal crypto monetary transactions (better match for NOTB type scenarios). This enhanced embodiment could well could use the QDT as an infrared spectroscopy (NIRS) sensor measurement, along with other metrics of unique measurements.
    QDT thus a complementary digital identifier for WO2020060606.

    ii) For a global universal DigitalID programe (via id2020.org). To establish the constant/persistant/static UnID chain pair-part, which then combined with any of 17 various biometrics (or indeed all). The pair then processed using Azure cloud blockchain. Not just as a monetary transaction, but as universal ID... for everything.
    Any large scale use, will avail of the latest iteration, as McHughs team are aiming to enhance data storage of this mark.

    Of course both of these are some years away, with an initial catchement target of 1.5bn or so, pre-2030.
    Certain developing countries, will also spearhead any use of fully Digital Identifers of Persons.

    In the meantime QDT in the next year or two onwards, can absolutely function, where used, as a digi-immune-cert (that's it's only purpose currently).
    Under any manditory type conditions, this embodiment can establish 'access' (or not) to opportunities, freedoms, public and private sector services.

    and back around to the start of the circle we go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    ii) For a global universal DigitalID programe (via id2020.org). To establish the constant/persistant/static UnID chain pair-part, which then combined with any of 17 various biometrics (or indeed all).
    But quantum dot tattoos still aren't persistant, birth to death or biometric.
    You keep lying about this.

    The rest of your word salad is all based on a bizarre fringe religious belief of yours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    QDT's (v1) have been proven persistant (without any fade) for 5yrs min, by the MIT Team, under direct and constant, UV exposure.
    QDT's if choosen as final/ultimate use of immunity certification (their purpose), and bearing in mind, this will likely be a yearly cycle vaccine (covid mutation).

    ...this indicates surperb levels of persistance indeed. There are also indications of delivery intent (establishing DigitalIDs) at point of birth, and an enhancement of data storage capability of the QDT

    QDT's are complientary, to the concept of validation of monetary transactions, as a form of identity (scanable unique identifier of the person).
    However DigitalIDs (via id2020.org) already have functioning digital wallets within their pilot DigitalID schemes already, for the purchase of goods, and access of services.

    The organisation many have not heard of (GAVI) are direct and founding partners (of ID2020.org), along with Microsoft etc.
    ID2020 aim to use point of vaccine delivery as a method of creating a DigitalID. Boris handed them £1bn+ last month, Ireland circa €115m.

    ID2020 manifesto is simply to create DigitalIDs, for everyone on the planet.
    Gates/GAVI (partners) manifesto, is to give everyone on the planet the COVID vaccine (likely yearly).
    Combining the two ambition, of these two partners would make sense.

    Gates/MIT additional/seperate patent: WO2020060606, is a step further down the line, using the body itself for blockchain cryptocurrency encryption.

    It's really a very simple enough concept for anyone with a bit of an education on these matters, awareness of technologies etc.
    For anyone else (see above), they'll likely dismiss it off hand, fail to process the science, and then attempt to reference skygods again and again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    QDT's (v1) have been proven persistant (without any fade) for 5yrs min, by the MIT Team, under direct and constant, UV exposure.
    5 years isn't persistent or life long.
    It isn't biometric either.

    We've been over this and more of your word salad isn't going to change reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    5 years isn't persistent..

    QDT's (v1) have been proven persistant (without any fade) for 5yrs min (the actual total persistance level isn't know), by the MIT Team, under direct and constant, UV exposure.
    QDT's if choosen as final/ultimate use of immunity certification (their purpose), and bearing in mind, this will likely be a yearly cycle vaccine (covid mutation).

    ...this indicates surperb levels of persistance indeed.
    There are also indications of delivery intent (establishing DigitalIDs) at point of birth, and an enhancement of data storage capability of the QDT

    QDT's are complientary, to the concept of validation of monetary transactions, as a form of identity (scanable unique identifier of the person).
    However DigitalIDs (via id2020.org) already have functioning digital wallets within their pilot DigitalID schemes already, for the purchase of goods, and access of services.

    The organisation many have not heard of (GAVI) are direct and founding partners (of ID2020.org), along with Microsoft etc.
    ID2020 aim to use point of vaccine delivery as a method of creating a DigitalID. Boris handed them £1bn+ last month, Ireland circa €115m.

    ID2020 manifesto is simply to create DigitalIDs, for everyone on the planet.
    Gates/GAVI (partners) manifesto, is to give everyone on the planet the COVID vaccine (likely yearly).
    Combining the two ambition, of these two partners would make sense.

    Gates/MIT additional/seperate patent: WO2020060606, is a step further down the line, using the body itself for blockchain cryptocurrency encryption.

    It's really a very simple enough concept for anyone with a bit of an education on these matters, awareness of technologies etc.
    For anyone else (see above), they'll likely dismiss it off hand, fail to process the science, and then attempt to reference skygods again and again.

    n.b. for those claiming QDT isn't biometric, the QDT can in itself store all (x17) biometric values, along with digitisaiton of all paper/card data.

    It's simply a bit like claiming that a master password service, isn't itself a password. Of course it isn't, it's a 'service and vehicle' to contain all passwords within that service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    U]for 5yrs min (the actual total persistance level isn't know)
    And what happens after 5 years?
    They fade.
    So they aren't persistent.

    Also, humans live upwards of 80 years.
    80 years is a longer period of time than 5 years.
    So they aren't life long.

    They aren't biometric because that's not what the word means.
    and then attempt to reference skygods again and again.
    Again, the only one who references skygods is you.

    You also base you conspiracy theory on a religious belief in the mark of the beast.
    If you don't like people bringing that up, simply stop being dishonest and evasive about it and address it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    And what happens after 5 years?
    And how often would a (yearly) covid vaccine (deliverd as a QDT combo) be used?
    Bear in mind:

    i) This 5yr was the very first version of a solution proposal to Gates, MuHugh said they aim to increae duration and data storage capabilities.
    ii) This QDT would also be 'perfect for all and every vaccine delivered' in the future. It's a simple plaster on skin delivery, perfect for storage and distribution.

    Anyhow other things to do now, suggest folks read up on facts, before flippant comments.
    There is plenty of reading material on id2020.org, and on the two product patents (links above/previous pages).


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And how often would a (yearly) covid vaccine (deliverd as a QDT combo) be used?
    Bear in mind:

    i) This 5yr was the very first version of a solution proposal to Gates, MuHugh said they aim to increae duration and data storage capabilities.
    ii) This QDT would also be 'perfect for all and every vaccine delivered' in the future. It's a simple plaster on skin delivery, perfect for storage and distribution.

    Anyhow other things to do now, suggest folks read up on facts, before flippant comments.
    There is plenty of reading material on id2020.org, and on the two product patents (links above/previous pages).
    Yup. More dishonest word salad and paranoid, delusional speculation.

    Replacing something repeatedly does not make it persistent or life long. That's not what either of those terms mean.

    And notice again how you avoid discussing the religious basis of your conspiracy theory.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yup. More dishonest word salad ...
    Yup, if you can't process information of a technical nature (even when repeated for you), fine, just say so, instead of burping up your own word salad.
    King Mob wrote: »
    And notice again how you avoid discussing the religious basis of your conspiracy theory.
    And notice again how you only you inject skygods and religion into every one of your posts.

    Whilst 'that's all very interesting', (and predicitable from an angry athiest) it's also a clear diversion (technique) of the simple clear facts as presented, and which you still fail to process.

    Meanwhile, slight correction on the Irish GAVI money, only €18m from Ireland at the recent global summit in May (Boris offered £1bn+). Gavi needs at least US$ 7.4 billion for the 2021-25 immunisation systems program. Gavi are also the founders and partners of id2020.org (the new global Digital ID program).

    Likely it would make sense to create a DigitalID system, at the same time as rolling out immunisation systems, as both are matching, complimentary and primary objectives.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yup, if you can't process information of a technical nature (even when repeated for you), fine, just say so, instead of burping up your own word salad..
    Lol. Right. Technical. That's the reason.
    And notice again how you only you inject skygods and religion into every one of your posts.

    .
    But I've never mentioned "skygods". That's your odd term you keep using for some reason.
    I keep pointing out that your conspiracy theory is based on a fringe religious belief, because it is.

    Again if it isn't all you have to do is state that you don't believe in the biblical prophecy.
    But you won't address it either way.
    This is because you're a very dishonest person and you are being evasive about your position since you know people would rightly dismiss you out of hand if you were open and honest about it.

    I don't understand why you are continuing to do this when everyone can see through your evasiveness and you've already lost all credibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    It's likely best to simply ignore posters who have a record of over 8,000 posts mostly all in CT alone (every one of a denial nature), across over a decade.

    We've seen religion (and perhaps suggestion of a strong dislike towards) getting elbowed into nearly ever post here.
    When the only primary reference point suggested here is (again): 'id2020.org', and this in regards to the topic at hand: 'Digital IDs for everyone'.
    Anything else is simply secondary, or of complimentary interest, and thus a 'purposeful distractive, diversionary technique'.

    It's a paradoxical situation, e.g. someone likely coming from an economic redundant, arts education background, (philosophy or similar), now reject 100% of all theoritical philosophical matter, across the CT forum. Even cases with clear linear scientific and technical evidence at hand. It might suggest hard set Dawkinism onset (who himself, even gives skygods a 1-7% likelyhood).

    The proposal here is relly very simple to follow.
    It can be simplified even further, for the non scientific or non technical, non fact natured:

    1. ID2020.org's clear mission statement for everyone on the planet to have a new unique Digital ID (pre-2030)
    2. ID2020.org is founded and funded by GAVI (the vaccine people), Gates/MS (the vaccine man) and other with immense wealth or influence (Rockerfellas)
    3. ID2020.org have various pilot schemes to discover the best of class methods of establishing DigitalIDs, with a preference to combine with vaccine delivery.
    4. ID2020.org was founded by a chap that is now involved with MIT (the world's #1 Uni, and with an excellent nano-medi-tech team).
    5. Gates funded MIT to produce a solution to the issue of DigitalImmunityCertification at point of vaccine.
    6. MIT's current single 'best of class' solution was put forward as the QDT (QuantumDotTattoo) a vaccine and digital identifer combination.
    7. QDT is a scanable digitally read embodiment, that is applied along with a vaccine. It's a data storage mark (nano scale tattoo pattern) upon the person.
    8. QDT in any future iteration, will (as McHugh states) have both increased data storage capability and embodiment persistance.

    Of course the essential/key workers in the West won't see the QDT when they get the first manditory (likely yearly) vaccine in the coming months.
    Instead it will be used in the developing world to begin with, and only available when the best P3/4 clinical trial indicates the single best model to combine with.

    It will likely only appear gradually, across the coming years (no great rush towards 2030), due to factors of manufacturing scale up (bn's).
    In the meantime until better DigitalID embodiment is be found, MIT's QDT is the best there is.


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    Resorting to personal attacks and attempting to attack educational backgrounds. Meanwhile you continue to go on tangents while virtually ignoring any criticisms of the conspiracy you're espousing. As pointed out multiple times, this is not persistent. There's also never been an indication that it's being considered for anything more than as a basic vaccine record.

    On top of that, you were pushing ages ago that it would be going to everyone as a mandatory part of a covid vaccine. Now you've adapted the timeline because there hasn't been any indication it will. You've set a year of 2030 which gives leeway to keep making the claim for years to come. Even if it eventually hits the developing world which is its target audience, it's still simply acting as an indicator that a person has been vaccinated. Nothing more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    It's likely best to simply ignore posters who have a record of over 8,000 posts mostly all in CT alone (every one of a denial nature), across over a decade.

    We've seen religion (and perhaps suggestion of a strong dislike towards) getting elbowed into nearly ever post here.
    But why run away from the point?
    Why not just shut me up and state clearly that you don't believe in the biblical prophesy?

    All the people who read your posts aren't being fooled by your tactics.
    So why are you persisting in them?
    It's a paradoxical situation, e.g. someone likely coming from an economic redundant, arts education background, (philosophy or similar), now reject 100% of all theoritical philosophical matter,
    This is a very specific statement, care to explain it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Resorting to personal attacks and attempting to attack educational backgrounds.
    Oh fun fact.
    Some conspiracy theorist here tracked down my real name and it's been passed around by a few of them in PMs.

    I suspect that the specific mention of "arts education background, (philosophy or similar)" is meant to be a thinly veiled allusion to Accumlator having been given this information too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    There is an incorrect assumption above.
    A flase (slightly paranoid) allegation has been suggested by KM.
    To clarify, no one has posted me any such message(s).

    By clicking on KM anyone (in public domain) can clearly see 8k posts in CT across a decade (statistics link).
    A huge sway of posts also have the keyword 'philosophy' at some university.
    It's thus a very basic and elementary logical deduction to explain a posting trend.

    This simple public doman click, explains this suggested 'conspiracy'

    Likewise most of my posts are across in the lucky bets threads, feel free to have a quick gawk.
    I'm a bit of a superforecaster, lol. Just waiting to win the aul Euromillions, any day now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    There is an incorrect assumption above.
    A flase (slightly paranoid) allegation has been suggested by KM.
    To clarify, no one has posted me any such message(s).

    By clicking on KM anyone (in public domain) can clearly see 8k posts in CT across a decade (statistics link).
    A huge sway of posts also have the keyword 'philosophy' at some university.
    It's thus a very basic and elementary logical deduction to explain a posting trend.

    This simple public doman click, explains this suggested 'conspiracy'

    Likewise most of my posts are across in the lucky bets threads, feel free to have a quick gawk.
    I'm a bit of a superforecaster, lol. Just waiting to win the aul Euromillions, any day now!
    Ah ok. It was just some basic stalking, followed by personal attacks based on education.
    That's not much better you realise.

    You've also dodged the question again.

    As I've pointed out, no one is buy this tactic of yours.
    Everyone reading this thread realises that your conspiracy theory is based on your religious beliefs.
    Why be evasive about it? What do you think this gains you?
    It's only served to make you look ridiculous and dishonest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    You've also dodged the question again.

    As I've pointed out, no one is buy this tactic of yours.
    Everyone reading this thread realises that your conspiracy theory is based on your religious beliefs.
    Why be evasive about it? What do you think this gains you?
    It's only served to make you look ridiculous and dishonest.

    That (old) question has been answered here many times already.
    Answer. It's 'interesting' that is all
    Also... it may, (or may not) have some secondary relevance to the topic, who knows for sure.

    This tactic of topic diversion has again been exposed.

    To repeat: the actual 'primary linear evidence' (back to the actual topic) has been outlined as clear as possible:

    1. ID2020.org's clear mission statement for everyone on the planet to have a new unique Digital ID (pre-2030)
    2. ID2020.org is founded and funded by GAVI (the vaccine people), Gates/MS (the vaccine man) and other with immense wealth or influence (Rockerfellas)
    3. ID2020.org have various pilot schemes to discover the best of class methods of establishing DigitalIDs, with a preference to combine with vaccine delivery.
    4. ID2020.org was founded by a chap that is now involved with MIT (the world's #1 Uni, and with an excellent nano-medi-tech team).
    5. Gates funded MIT to produce a solution to the issue of DigitalImmunityCertification at point of vaccine.
    6. MIT's current single 'best of class' solution was put forward as the QDT (QuantumDotTattoo) a vaccine and digital identifer combination.
    7. QDT is a scanable digitally read embodiment, that is applied along with a vaccine. It's a data storage mark (nano scale tattoo pattern) upon the person.
    8. QDT in any future iteration, will (as McHugh states) have both increased data storage capability and embodiment persistance.

    To address the 2030 issue, this is the date set out be id2020.org themselves (not me). It's linked also to some UN backed charter with a timeline also for 2030, for implimentation.

    However the timely arrival of covid19 may well accelerate this date however. Bear in mind GAVI (of both id2020 {DigitalID} and global vaccine programmes) have been handed $£€bn's, all just within the last month alone.

    Anyway folks things to do, the CT forum sure is busy these days is it not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    That (old) question has been answered here many times.
    Answer. It's 'interesting' that is all

    But that's not an answer.

    The question is if you believe it or not.
    You keep dodging that.
    We all know why. You do believe, you're just not being honest because you know that will turn rational people away from your conspiracy claims.
    You're not tricking anyone.

    Why do you think it is fooling people?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    So is it just like a global PPS number?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Perhaps an interim type measure, for anyone who hasn't/won't get or use a smartphone, or using it in flight mode, to avoid endless tracking.

    Places such as Singapore are handing out 'tokens'.
    Well 'tracing' tokens (token suggests a reward) to be exact.
    Well more like a 'reward' bracelet put on someones leg.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-54206824
    Volountary (for now) the report says, at 1:50 into the video.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    So is it just like a global PPS number?
    Pretty much (welfare ID), and scannable from distance (all new SmartLampPosts do/will have iRed high-zoom cameras built into them).

    Technically the QR type pattern embodiment, if it acts as a UNiD as suggested, could thus replace all and every other type of plastic or paper based ID, e.g. passports, driving licences etc.

    It will also serve of course as 'immunity certification' that could mean the access to products or services could be limited without the QDTattoo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,777 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Pretty much (welfare ID), and scannable from distance (all new SmartLampPosts do/will have iRed high-zoom cameras built into them).

    Technically the QR type pattern embodiment, if it acts as a UNiD as suggested, could thus replace all and every other type of plastic or paper based ID, e.g. passports, driving licences etc.

    It will also serve of course as 'immunity certification' that could mean the access to products or services could be limited without the QDTattoo.

    Stripping away the techo-waffle, basically this is what you are claiming: We are all going to be secretly "marked" with something, without our knowledge or permission. Then some shady "powers-that-be" are going to track us for some nefarious reason using secret cameras on lampposts

    See how nuts that sounds. I suspect that's the reason you add so much techno-babble.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Stripping away the techo-waffle
    If technology is something you fail to understand, just say so.
    Technology is technology, not waffle.


    A waffle is something that goes in the grill or toaster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,406 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    If technology is something you fail to understand, just say so.
    Technology is technology, not waffle.


    A waffle is something that goes in the grill or toaster.

    Its not technology though, it's possible technology that may be available in the future for the reasons you say it may be used.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,777 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    If technology is something you fail to understand, just say so.
    Technology is technology, not waffle.

    Oh I understand the technology very well. But just because we have planes that can spray chemicals doesn't mean they are spraying us with chemicals. Just because insertable microchips or "digital tattoos" exist doesn't mean there is some "evil" plan to force them onto the population without our knowledge

    That's the part you invent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Oh I understand the technology very well.
    Seemingly not.*
    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    But just because we have planes that can spray chemicals doesn't mean they are spraying us with chemicals.
    What is your conspiracy now, something vague about planes is it?
    Do tell us more (perhaps best elsewhere though, on another relevant thread)

    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    *Just because insertable microchips...
    A prime and repeated, perhaps eve deliberate misunderstanding of QD (passive, nano)technology, maybe for nefarious reasons and misdirection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Its not technology though, it's possible technology that may be available in the future for the reasons you say it may be used.
    Correct me if I'm wrong (I may have a screengrab at hand) didn't you say back in March that you i) acted against state recommendations and sat on a park bench (for hours), during peak lockdown phase in the NW (even now still at R1+)

    At the same time, and very relevant to the Singapore ID topic (always on BTLE tokens)...

    ii) you also said that you would actually choose to turn off the bluetooth setting on your phone, as this was your personal preference if they started using Bluetooth for tracking.

    The Singapore token solution would void such actions of people who turn off BT on their smartphones (or those who refuse to even have a phone). Surely you would thus have real concerns about this news in Singapore.

    This is the brunt of the issue here, DigialIDs may not all be bad, the real issue is there is/was/will be zero real debate, before they become widespread, perhaps even manditory in many cases.

    Anyway time for even more sunshine now, VitD is good, and today is the last of the good weather from some time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,777 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    A prime and repeated, perhaps eve deliberate misunderstanding of QD (passive, nano)technology, maybe for nefarious reasons and misdirection.

    Now I'm part of a conspiracy..

    lol


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