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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    This will be a per-govermental decision. e.g. Only last week the uk's health chap said he would certainly not rule out manditory vaccines, upon their population, that they have the capability and reserved such rights to impliment.
    Yup. No quote from Bill Gates, so it's just your paranoid speculation based on your bizarre religious beliefs.
    You understand of course manditory isn't in any way compulsary, it's a 'push' (yes, that word again) factor. You can certainly refuse, and suffer the results.
    lol...:rolleyes:

    Also, surely you mean banditory? cobpulsary?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,178 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Try a dictionary if you have issues with wordage.
    There is a subtle (but effective) difference.

    You won't have to have it by law, but to access nearly every perceivable service, to have a vaccine will be a manditory requirement by those providers, before service can be availed of.

    E.g. You will not be allowed within kerosene sniffing range of an airport (never mind the local library/school/hospital/workplace...).

    LOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,792 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    In fact, many others (not you) are still in denial of any such 'push towards DigitalIDs'.

    Again....

    ....The only CT relates to the exact features, method(s) of realisation, and indeed ultimate intentional primary/secondary use of such a mass DigitalID program, and thus it's effects: intentional or otherwise.

    We can start with current/past tech developments and look for the likely foundation candidate for the start of the program, that of mass 'deployment'.

    e.g.
    BillGates want's 7bn vaccines (likely manditory) into the entire planet's arms ASAP (<12/18mths).

    BillGates is also the main partner of id2020, who wants the entire planet to have (likely also manditory) DigitalID pre-2030. This target date was pre-pandemic btw.

    BillGates spent millions on a brief to MIT for a digital immunity certification soloution, the current best offering the proposed in return was the very interesting QDT(v1).
    The lodged patent even specifies one of it's uses is as data storage mark/mechanism i.e. both vaccine record and immunity passport.
    This data mark embodiment is perfectly viable as unique digital identifer in itself: an ideal fulfilment.

    Right, you aren't answering or addressing the question in the slightest, just going on a bizarre monologue of jumbled personal thoughts about Bill Gates, Coronavirus vaccine and digital ID.

    To spell it out

    Your conspiracy: Bill Gates will force mandatory vaccinations on the world's 7 billion inhabitants for Coronavirus in about 12 to 18 months. In doing so, he also has a nefarious plan to use it to implant/tattoo/whatever some form of digital ID on people.

    If that's correct, cool, we have a conspiracy, If not, then please clarify.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Bill Gates won't determine vaccine policy. He can express views and they may be taken on board. But ultimately national health authorities will have the greatest influence.
    But he will most likely control the vaccine itself, and also the digital immunity certificates to accompany them.

    What each country does with these billions worth of vaccines (after paying early on them), is yes indeed up to them.

    Yes, they can leave them in the industrial fridges if desired, but will suffer greatly on the world trade front (not to mention simple tourism), pharaoh states don't tend to perform excel in GDP terms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    he will most likely control the vaccine itself, and also the digital immunity certificates to accompany them.

    What each country does with these billions worth of vaccines (after paying early on them), is yes indeed up to them.
    All speculation.
    All paranoid.
    No truth or connection to reality.

    You might as well go full bore with your religious beliefs, they aren't going make you seem less ridiculous.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Your conspiracy: Bill Gates will force mandatory vaccinations on the world's 7 billion inhabitants for Coronavirus in about 12 to 18 months. In doing so, he also has a nefarious plan to use it to implant/tattoo/whatever some form of digital ID on people.

    This is your own slightly inaccurate 'juiced/dressed up' conspiracy, typical added drama!

    To clarify (again!) manditory. is. NOT. compulsary. nor a force,
    but instead a gentle guiding push, comprende?

    BG already announced the entire planet will need 7bn vaccines in record time (his own blog even has a chart quoting emergency licencing and thus 'testing phase skip') to rush the 18mth target (previous this was 5yrs at very best). None of this is outside of public domain.

    He also stated a 2nd dose would be likely needed to factor mutations (14bn doses) soon after. Ideal for anyone who missed their chance the first time. I know it's a whole lot isn't it, billions of the stuff. None of this is outside of public domain.

    There is no implant (also, not any chip of any kind).

    A gentle 1 second, just under-skin embodiment (data marking) is simply all that is required for the QDT, no need to dress this up as anything else really, implant is suggestive of something else along the lines of RFID, which it is not.

    The QDT can certainly function as a unique digital data identifer, and also as a store of vaccine records (as per patent, also in public domain).
    Also for notetakers, there was zero mention or skygods/speculation here (it isn't required when facts are at hand), some will latch on this however as their own lazy diversion crutch/tactic.

    Anyhoe, this concludes today's TED talk (educational lesson).
    Good luck!


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    But he will most likely control the vaccine itself, and also the digital immunity certificates to accompany them.

    What each country does with these billions worth of vaccines (after paying early on them), is yes indeed up to them.

    Yes, they can leave them in the industrial fridges if desired, but will suffer greatly on the world trade front (not to mention simple tourism), pharaoh states don't tend to perform excel in GDP terms.

    He won't most likely control the vaccine and I'm not sure why you think he would. There will likely be multiple vaccines btw. Digital immunity certs if they ever come into being would also likely be handled by independent authorities. They also are incredibly unlikely to be used by next year...


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    This is your own slightly inaccurate 'juiced/dressed up' conspiracy, typical added drama!
    Again, you believe the bible predicted quantum dot tattoos via supernatural means.
    Your conspiracy theory is utterly ridiculous and irrational.

    We only have to look at your posting history to confirm this.
    The QDT can certainly function as a unique digital data identifer, and also as a store of vaccine records (as per patent).
    But they aren't persistent, birth to death or biometric.

    Anyhoe, this concludes today's TED talk (educational lesson).
    Good luck!
    Lol.
    What's the opposite of "educational"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,792 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    This is your own slightly inaccurate 'juiced/dressed up' conspiracy, typical added drama!

    To clarify (again!) manditory. is. NOT. compulsary. nor a force,
    but instead a gentle guiding push, comprende?

    Then what's the conspiracy?

    If there is none, then what is this thread doing on this forum?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Then what's the conspiracy?

    If there is none, then what is this thread doing on this forum?

    Because it would be laughed out of every other forum.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed



    Yes people want a digital id to prove if they have the virus or not, this is not a conspiracy.

    .....where is the conspiracy?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Also sounds more like it's something he wants integrated with the track and trace app.


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    Anyway, Bill Gates has addressed the conspiracy and it's baseless nonsense that he views as idiotic....
    "As it were, it's so peculiar, you nearly need to see it as something funny, yet I get it's truly not an entertaining thing. I've never been associated with any kind of microchip-type thing," Gates said of the hypothesis that has circled on the web, the New York Post announced.


    It's practically difficult to deny this stuff since it's so moronic or unusual that to try and rehash it nearly appears to give it believability," he included.

    https://www.cybernog.com/2020/06/bill-gates-replies-to-corona-microchip.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    So gates was never before associated with any kind of chip?

    Much lols + rofl also!

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018
    Fighting over the remote control could soon end up in more than just a channel-hopping battle, if researchers at MIT have their way. In the Bill Gates-funded quest for the next form of contraception, a Massachusetts startup has come up with a small remote-controlled chip, like a digital wifi version of the pill, that will allow women to switch their fertility on and off at the touch of a button.

    BTW his latest funding to MIT was the QDT, which isn't a 'chip' but ainstead a 'data mark embodiment', designed to compliment his plan for 7,000,000,000 vacines.
    In this very latest instance he is correct the Quantum Dot Tattoo data marking isn't technically a chip at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    BTW his latest funding to MIT was the QDT, which isn't a 'chip' but ainstead a 'data mark embodiment', designed to compliment his plan for 7,000,000,000 vacines.
    Paranoid speculation arising from a fringe religious belief in a supernatural apocalyptic prediction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    So gates was never before associated with any kind of chip?

    Much lols + rofl also!

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018


    BTW his latest funding to MIT was the QDT, which isn't a 'chip' but ainstead a 'data mark embodiment', designed to compliment his plan for 7,000,000,000 vacines.
    In this very latest instance he is correct the Quantum Dot Tattoo data marking isn't technically a chip at all.

    What's the conspiracy?


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    So gates was never before associated with any kind of chip?

    Much lols + rofl also!

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018


    BTW his latest funding to MIT was the QDT, which isn't a 'chip' but ainstead a 'data mark embodiment', designed to compliment his plan for 7,000,000,000 vacines.
    In this very latest instance he is correct the Quantum Dot Tattoo data marking isn't technically a chip at all.

    You earlier claimed that he would be in control of all the vaccines. Care to back that up? Go for it... Also funding research isn't shocking. You keep selling something as if it's the selected as something going into production in some way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    You earlier claimed that he would be in control of all the vaccines. Care to back that up? Go for it... Also funding research isn't shocking. You keep selling something as if it's the selected as something going into production in some way.

    I don't think he understands how research funding works... Or how bill Gates funds multiple projects as multiple experiments to find the best possible solution.

    He also doesn't understand his own conspiracy.... As I'm still waiting for an explanation of what it is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    EyesClosed wrote: »
    What's the conspiracy?


    Maybe keep up with this thread, read a few pages of it etc.



    It's been specifice over a dozen times now, lazyness isn't a valid excuse to keep asking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    EyesClosed wrote: »
    I don't think he understands how research funding works... Or how bill Gates funds multiple projects as multiple experiments to find the best possible solution.


    Correct Gates funded MIT to provide the best solution for immunity certificates that will be needed for planned 7,000,000,000 (v1) covid vaccines <18mths.



    This was presented as the best option to the issue of immunity certificates.



    If there brghtest minds, at the worlds #1school, and on the back of piles of $millions, tell you the QuantumDotTattoo mark embodiment is the current best solution, there might well be something valid in it.



    In fact it's a very gppd and highly efficient soloution indeed.



    Their more persistant and increased data storage 2nd generation data mark is probably due for final QA shortly, v1 must be near a decade old by now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    I have read the whole thread, not once do you state exactly what your conspiracy is.
    You talk about QDT and ID2020 a lot, but there is no conspiracy.

    In fact earlier on in this same thread others try to help you and they can't explain it either, and you don't add anything.

    So while you are here, once and for all please tell me.....what is the conspiracy?

    Please don't just copy and paste a massive wall of text about id2020 and qdt....just nice and simple....what is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    If there brghtest minds, at the worlds #1school, and on the back of piles of $millions, tell you the QuantumDotTattoo mark embodiment is the current best solution, there might well be something valid in it.



    In fact it's a very gppd and highly efficient soloution indeed.
    But they're not persistant.
    They're not birth to death.
    They're not biometric.

    You are only insisting that quantum dot tattoos are the best options so it will fit your strange religious belief about the mark of the beast.

    In reality, they aren't the best option and they don't fit with your prophesy.
    Also in reality, there's no such thing as a supernatural prophesy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    But they're not persistant.
    They're not birth to death.
    They're not biometric.
    Send your complaints to MIT.



    V1 was 5yr 24/7 UV persistant. V2 would be improved.

    Bear in mind any novel vaccine is generally expected to be good for 5-10yr, perhaps shorter due to mutation factors. Gates said there might be 14bn (double) needed just within the first 2yrs of release.



    Unique and similar (but better) than normal biometrics. This one single data mark, contains the digitised data of all other x16 human biometrics. Could say it's x16 times better. It's an embodiment: it becomes embedded and part of the bodies ecosystem, sure sounds like a biometric value.



    The new covid vaccine will ideally be issued at time of birth, as well as for the 7bn planned normal output.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,178 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Send your complaints to MIT.



    V1 was 5yr 24/7 UV persistant. V2 would be improved.

    Bear in mind any novel vaccine is generally expected to be good for 5-10yr, perhaps shorter due to mutation factors. Gates said there might be 14bn (double) needed just within the first 2yrs of release.



    Unique and similar (but better) than normal biometrics. This one single data mark, contains the digitised data of all other x16 human biometrics. Could say it's x16 times better. It's an embodiment: it becomes embedded and part of the bodies ecosystem, sure sounds like a biometric value.



    The new covid vaccine will ideally be issued at time of birth, as well as for the 7bn planned normal output.

    a QDT is not biometrics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Send your complaints to MIT.
    Why would I?
    They're not the ones making false and silly claims about quantum dot tattoos.
    They aren't claiming it's persistent from birth to death.
    They aren't misusing the term biometrics.

    That's all on you.
    And it's all to satisfy your religious beliefs.

    Quantum Dot tattoos aren't the mark of the beast.
    Just like barcodes weren't.

    This is because the bible didn't accurately predict anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    a QDT is not biometrics.


    It's beyond and better than biometrics. It can store all other biometric values (x16), can also store all paper and plastic card documents in a digital format placeded within the body, and best of all easy scannable.


    id2020.org are seeking unique, new platforms and technologies, this fits the bill, and it already fit's (id2020 partner): Bill's own brief.


    It's clever stuff indeed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,178 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    It's beyond and better than biometrics. It can store all other biometric values (x16), can also store all paper and plastic card documents in a digital format placeded within the body, and best of all easy scannable.


    id2020.org are seeking unique, new platforms and technologies, this fits the bill, and it already fit's (id2020 partner): Bill's own brief.


    It's clever stuff indeed.

    you can put the same mark on multiple people. what use is it then?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    It's beyond and better than biometrics..
    According to you, but you believe some very silly things with very little evidence, so your opinion is not very reliable.

    And regardless, it's still not biometric.


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