Digital ID's for everyone

Timberrrrrrrr

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

And where does it explain the means or methid of immunity certification?
Nowhere in the article, you say?


Hmm, wonder how they'll manage to check whom out of 7bn has taken the vaccine, and on what date, and which release version, and validate the actual identity of any of these 7bn subjects for record keeping.


Hold on, didn't Bill brief the very exact this problem (along with $millions of funding) to his own medi-tech team and MIT?
Yes indeed.


And what did they (MIT) suggest is the best of class solution to this small matter, you ask?
Actually, something called the Quantum Dot Tattoo.

Amazing when you search quantum dot tattoo you get two differing opinions

On the science sites it's all about how this is a good thing and will be important in developing countries where data storage is not up to date.

On the flip side you have the religious brigades who see biblical prophecies and satanic interference.

Science has been good to me for quite a few decades so I think I will stick with them and leave the god botherers to shouting at the clouds.

Kehlani Massive Magnum

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

And where does it explain the means or methid of immunity certification?
Nowhere in the article, you say?


Hmm, wonder how they'll manage to check whom out of 7bn has taken the vaccine, and on what date, and which release version, and validate the actual identity of any of these 7bn subjects for record keeping.


Hold on, didn't Bill brief the very exact this problem (along with $millions of funding) to his own medi-tech team and MIT?
Yes indeed.


And what did they (MIT) suggest is the best of class solution to this small matter, you ask?
Actually, something called the Quantum Dot Tattoo.

You're incapable of completely quoting any of my posts, it's always snippets... You're also being a little dishonest about this having anything to do with id2020. The research was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation but not by ID2020 so it isn't being considered as an option for a digital id.

In addition the entire MIT study focused on developing countries, that was the basis for the study. You haven't proven the necessity of an immunity cert that gets embedded on one's skin, it simply isn't necessary. On top of that you previously claimed they were aiming to go to production by 2030. I've found no proof of this. It's a proof of concept and they say as much so I'd say it's unlikely to even be utilised in the developing world in the next two years.

Now you can quote me partially and address nothing else.

King Mob

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Ah the aul false much lolz lazy assumption (yet again in an act of information distortion) that this simple QDT (data mark/emboidment), is an actual chip or even processor.

For the 10th time, this is not a 'microchip', comprende?

n o t a m i c r o c h i p.

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Yes I know. The distinction is just pedantry on your part and I didn't feel I needed to be overly accurate while mocking your illogical conspiracy theory.

Quantum dot tattoos are not biometric, birth to death or persistent either.

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Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

On the science sites it's all about how this is a good thing and will be important in developing countries where data storage is not up to date.
On the flip side you ....

On the flip side, you have very serious privacy issues, the branding of people as what is in effect the mass barcoding of subject matters, and likely potential of additional uses towards digital wallets.

It's certainly pushed as a 'good thing' by the folks that are pushing it, no question about that.

When you consider the exact same (Gates) funded MIT team behind this, has already patented a similar or complientary technology, you have to question if Gates/Microsoft via id2020 (Gavi) has a potential huge money spinner: ma$$ global software licencing dream, and indeed future cloud based blockchain encrypted digital wallet platform.

Take a gawk at the CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA patent from Microsoft (id2020 founding partner).
Which actually refers to a similar QUANTUM DOT TATTOO's infrared scanable embodiment bio infrastructure as a verification sensor.

Publication Number WO/2020/060606
Publication Date 26.03.2020
MICROSOFT TECHNOLOGY LICENSING, LLC [US]/[US]

Looks like the QDT unique identifer (sensor) could easily become part of this 1984-esq in body currency mining system. A Digital ID verification, before the user's own kinetic energy (perhaps even blood gloucose) gets to the crunching, farming, collecting and storage of currency data.

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTDESCRIPTION

Abstract (EN)
Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.

[0026] Sensor 140 may be configured to sense the body activity of user 145. As illustrated in FIG. 1, sensor 140 may be a separate component from user device 130 and be operably and/or communicatively connected to user device 130. Alternatively, sensor 140 may be included and integrated in user device 130. For example, user device 130 may be a wearable device having sensor 140 therein. The sensor 140 may transmit information/data to user device 130. Sensor 140 may include, for example, but not limited to, functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) scanners or sensors, electroencephalography (EEG) sensors, near infrared spectroscopy (NIRS) sensors, heart rate monitors, thermal sensors, optical sensors, radio frequency (RF) sensors, ultrasonic sensors, cameras, or any other sensor or scanner that can measure or sense body activity or scan human body. For instance, the fMRI may measure body activity by detecting changes associated with blood flow. The fMRI may use a magnetic field and radio waves to create detailed images of the body (e.g. blood flow in the brain to detect areas of activity).

[0072] Any combination of one or more computer readable medium(s) may be utilized. The computer readable medium may be a computer readable signal medium or a computer readable storage medium. A computer readable storage medium may be, for example, but not limited to, an electronic, magnetic, optical, electromagnetic, infrared, or semiconductor system, apparatus, or device, or any suitable combination of the foregoing.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

On the flip side, you have very serious privacy issues, the branding of people as what is in effect the mass barcoding of subject matters, and likely potential of additional uses towards digital wallets.

It's certainly pushed as a 'good thing' by the folks that are pushing it, no question about that.

When you consider the exact same (Gates) funded MIT team behind this, has already patented a similar or complientary technology, you have to question if Gates/Microsoft via id2020 (Gavi) has a potential huge money spinner: ma$$ global software licencing dream, and indeed future cloud based blockchain encrypted digital wallet platform.

Take a gawk at the CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA patent from Microsoft (id2020 founding partner).
Which actually refers to a similar QUANTUM DOT TATTOO's infrared scanable embodiment bio infrastructure as a verification sensor.

Publication Number WO/2020/060606
Publication Date 26.03.2020
MICROSOFT TECHNOLOGY LICENSING, LLC [US]/[US]

Looks like the QDT unique identifer (sensor) could easily become part of this 1984-esq in body currency mining system. A Digital ID verification, before the user's own kinetic energy (perhaps even blood gloucose) gets to the crunching, farming, collecting and storage of currency data.

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTDESCRIPTION

Abstract (EN)
Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.

[0026] Sensor 140 may be configured to sense the body activity of user 145. As illustrated in FIG. 1, sensor 140 may be a separate component from user device 130 and be operably and/or communicatively connected to user device 130. Alternatively, sensor 140 may be included and integrated in user device 130. For example, user device 130 may be a wearable device having sensor 140 therein. The sensor 140 may transmit information/data to user device 130. Sensor 140 may include, for example, but not limited to, functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) scanners or sensors, electroencephalography (EEG) sensors, near infrared spectroscopy (NIRS) sensors, heart rate monitors, thermal sensors, optical sensors, radio frequency (RF) sensors, ultrasonic sensors, cameras, or any other sensor or scanner that can measure or sense body activity or scan human body. For instance, the fMRI may measure body activity by detecting changes associated with blood flow. The fMRI may use a magnetic field and radio waves to create detailed images of the body (e.g. blood flow in the brain to detect areas of activity).

[0072] Any combination of one or more computer readable medium(s) may be utilized. The computer readable medium may be a computer readable signal medium or a computer readable storage medium. A computer readable storage medium may be, for example, but not limited to, an electronic, magnetic, optical, electromagnetic, infrared, or semiconductor system, apparatus, or device, or any suitable combination of the foregoing.

So many "could be, maybe, might" etc but zero evidence.
Aliens COULD land here tomorrow, if they did they MIGHT tag us all with chips, and MAYBE use us as slaves to mine minerals for them.

It's as plausible as your claims.

A quantum dot isn't designed for processing data though. Have you actually read the research paper? You're attributing uses for it that simply aren't realistic... On top of that you've extended it to being accessible at range which it isn't.

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Deleted User wrote: »

A quantum dot {tattoo} isn't designed for processing data though.

And no claim was made to this effect (QDT)

Yet again I have to explain (for the xxxth time), that a unique digital identifier is just that.
Have you not read this before? Read again, slowly this time:

{{{ It . is . not . a . processor , nor . is . the . QDT . a . microchip }}}

However, when Microsoft (id2020.org partner) choose to roll out production of their very latest additional, new, seperate, digital wallet type patent (this one may have actual processing and mult-transmission capabilities), the other previous vaccine pre-installed QDT, can act as a user based UnID in itself.

Thus their creepy body kinetic can help validate itself (infrared is one of the many technologies), before additiional internal biometrics can be used for additional pre-cloud server verification.

The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTDOCUMENTS

Filed on June 20, 2019 (when founder Gates, and actively sat on the Board of Directors). He was also advisor to the new CEO Satya Nadella on technology areas including productivity, health software and artificial intelligence, and he will continue to do so.

“Microsoft will always be an important part of my life’s work and I will continue to be engaged with Satya and the technical leadership to help shape the vision and achieve the company’s ambitious goals".

But it only recently published this as under patent WO2020060606 March this year, the week after Gates (on paper) resigned to focus on vaccines, and digital immunity certificates thereof.

EyesClosed

https://www.nme.com/news/music/kanye-west-says-he-had-covid-19-speaks-against-vaccines-2703611

At least Kanye agrees with some posters here.

rtron

https://m.independent.ie/videos/its-like-a-fitbit-in-your-skull-elon-musk-demonstrates-brain-reading-neuralink-39487975.html
Thoughts on this?

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rtron wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/videos/its-like-a-fitbit-in-your-skull-elon-musk-demonstrates-brain-reading-neuralink-39487975.html
Thoughts on this?

This link^ refers to Musk's Neuralink (brain tech interfacing & implants). Not really anything to do with DigitalIDs (but could still serve as an identifier, with wireless protocols, and of course a likely future uplink into this Starlink, {for any future cloud-based AI interfacing}).

This is still years, or perhaps decade from any practical use.

Where as the folks in Sweden (3k+) have already inserted RFIDs in their hands as identifers, but this now considered clumsy, bulky old tech, and unlikely to continue much further.

Musk is a curious chap. On one had has many worthwhile projects from clean energy to interplanetary exploration.
However Starlink and neural networking point directly towards H+ (transhumanism).

The current protocol that suits best is Gate's QDT (QuantumDotTattoo), which uses nano-tech to establish a digtially readable identifer, without any surgery.
Totally chip/processor free, and more or less both: unpowered and passive.

QDT is also, when combined with vaccines (as is it's sole purpose), the only practical way to issue 'immunity certifications' to 8bn folks.
This delivery method won't even require refrigeration or proper needles.

The simple plaster on skin delivery method is the easiest, and the only method to fulfil dual requirements (vaccine, cert and thus UnID {identifer} of person).

With the expectation for yearly or mult-stage vaccines, it need not even appear for the initial 2021 round1.
Instead 2022 onwards (covid mutations will always occur), if it takes that long for full manufacture scale up.

The jet injector to dermis method is another method, that could allow mass rollout, but does fail on the individual id/certification requirement.

King Mob

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

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The current protocol that suits best is Gate's QDT (QuantumDotTattoo), which uses nano-tech to establish a digtially readable identifer, without any surgery.
Totally chip/processor free, and more or less both: unpowered and passive.

Still claiming this when you've shown that it's not true....

Weird

Still no indication that accumulator's dot will have anything to do with the covid vaccine. Almost as if it was nonsense.

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Still no denial from Gates, that when he handed his pet MIT team millions for the 'best of class' innovative 'Digital Immunity Certificate', they in turn produced the QuantumDotTattoo as the very best solution to this very specifc brief.

It's actually a vaccine and digi-cert combined in one, also requires no refrigeration, nor any sharps. Clever stuff from the chaps at MIT.

Anyone in denial of this simple finding as per the PressRelease, is living in a world of technological ingorance, and thus self-derived nonsense (see above).

Of course we won't see this delivered for any small scale P3/4 using EA.
It's intention was initially for the developing world's 1.5bn or so (requiring full production scale-up).

With multi-dosing (likely annual) of any (mutating/evolving) Covid19 vaccine, you might not see this 1/2/3bn (or the full 8bn) delivery method until 2021, 2022, 2023 onwards (2030 is the overall id2020.org target date, remember).

While other innovators have developed other 'ease of storage' delivery mechanisms such as the jet injector (again, most folks here would not aware of this), this does no fulfil the great persistant issue of quick, easy and scanable certification history and unique medical records, including UnIDs.

ohnonotgmail

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Still no denial from Gates, that when he handed his pet MIT team millions for the 'best of class' innovative 'Digital Immunity Certificate', they in turn produced the QuantumDotTattoo as the very best solution to this very specifc brief.

I didnt realise that Bill was reading this thread. Hey Bill, my last payment is late.

4068ac1elhodqr

Did Billy Gates brief the MIT team with a specific brief? (the answer is: Yes)
Did they propose the 'Quantum Dot Tatoo' as the best solution? (the answer is: Yes)

A very simple process of events really.
Not sure why some can't process basic logic of events, weird infact.

Still, nevermind all these awkward facts, have some misdirection and lols instead.

ohnonotgmail

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Did Billy Gates brief the MIT team with a specific brief? (the answer is: Yes)
Did they propose the 'Quantum Dot Tatoo' as the best solution? (the answer is: Yes)

A very simple process of events really.
Not sure why some can't process basic logic of events, weird infact.

Still, nevermind all these awkward facts, have some misdirection and lols instead.

so what if both of those things are true?

4068ac1elhodqr

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so what if both of those things are true?

Well some here seem to think the QDT is 'woo-woo-sci-fi'.
When it's actually very 'simple proven sci-fact'.

Likely only be considered for used for the final vaccine candidate (there are currently 300, and all still in trials).

Also, full manufacture scale up of a new innovation, also won't be an overnight event, but with yearly vaccines on the horizon, for 8bn, there is no rush, nor no lack of deployment opportunity.

This small scale lab based nano tech is also well over 5yrs old. The innovators at MIT expressed the desire for it to store greater amounts of 'data' (pattern array upgrades, customisations etc) in any future iterations.

ohnonotgmail

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Well some here seem to think the QDT is 'woo-woo-sci-fi'.
When it's actually very 'simple proven sci-fact'.

Likely only be considered for used for the final vaccine candidate (there are currently 300, and all still in trials).

Also, full manufacture scale up of a new innovation, also won't be an overnight event, but with yearly vaccines on the horizon, for 8bn, there is no rush, nor no lack of deployment opportunity.

This small scale lab based nano tech is also well over 5yrs old. The innovators at MIT expressed the desire for it to store greater amounts of 'data' (pattern array upgrades, customisations etc) in any future iterations.

has anybody said that QDT is woo science? or rather is it that they have said your extrapolation of it is woo?

LessOutragePlz

Is this the start of it?

ohnonotgmail

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Is this the start of it?

given the video doesnt work it is entirely possible it is the start of "it". now if only somebody could explain what "it" is.

LessOutragePlz

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

given the video doesnt work it is entirely possible it is the start of "it". now if only somebody could explain what "it" is.

"It" being the erosion of our freedoms.

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ohnonotgmail wrote: »

has anybody said that QDT is woo science? or rather is it that they have said your extrapolation of it is woo?

Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

The expression of the MIT was also for their next (likey release) version to store far more data than currently. This scanable data can of course take any form. From a simple 12/16/128 digit UNiDs, but a whole array of query strings.

Even in it's very, very, most basic of forms it can act as a boolean operator, to allow (or deny) someone instant access to: bus/building/workplace/cafe/welfare/port/college etc, as manditory use of a vaccine starts to occur.

ohnonotgmail

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

The expression of the MIT was also for their next (likey release) version to store far more data than currently. This scanable data can of course take any form. From a simple 12/16/128 digit UNiDs, but a whole array of query strings.

Even in it's very, very, most basic of forms it can act as a boolean operator, to allow (or deny) someone instant access to: bus/building/workplace/cafe/welfare/port/college etc, as manditory use of a vaccine starts to occur.

and there we go with the woo. especially so since your whole reason for thinking that is based on biblical nonsense.

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ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and there we go with the woo. especially so since your whole reason for thinking that is based on biblical nonsense.

Eh? Only you have mentioned the bible.

This is a very simple question, that you have failed to answer (using distraction).

Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

ohnonotgmail

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Eh? Only you have mentioned the bible.

This is a very simple question, that you have failed to answer (using distraction).

so you have never mentioned the bible in relation to this topic? you dont believe in biblical predictions?

Kehlani Massive Magnum

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Eh? Only you have mentioned the bible.

This is a very simple question, that you have failed to answer (using distraction).

No, you've previously discussed the bible and this... It was moved from the christianity forum to conspiracies, remember?

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ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so you have never mentioned the bible in relation to this topic? you dont believe in biblical predictions?

As an interesting observation only, also to stimulate the angry athiests here (90% on these threads) into some original thought consideration, ouside of their own pope (dawkins).

It's likely anyone with a greater interest would actually welcome such an event as it would indicate fulfilment.
They would actually have zero concern of this development.

I however simply urge caution, in the same way folks were barcoded with readable bar code tattoos back in 40's Germany.

Btw, you still refuse to answer the question:

Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

And, before you divert again, bear in mind the actual Patents for this innovation do refer to it as an 'embodiment' and this is why I used that specific term here, to reflect the lodged product's patent (Quantum Dot Tattoo) termonology.

ohnonotgmail

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

As an interesting observation only, also to stimulate the angry athiests here (90% on these threads) into some original thought consideration, ouside of their own pope (dawkins).

It's likely anyone with a greater interest would actually welcome such an event as it would indicate fulfilment.
They would actually have zero concern of this development.

I however simply urge caution, in the same way folks were barcoded with readable bar code tattoos back in 40's Germany.

Btw, you still refuse to answer the question:


And, before you divert again, bear in mind the actual Patents for this innovation do refer to it as an 'embodiment' and this is why I used that specific term here, to reflect the lodged product's patent (Quantum Dot Tattoo) termonology.

a QDT is a way to place a piece of data under the skin in a non-permanent way. nothing more. anything after you have invented yourself to fulfill a biblical prophecy. and it is more than an interesting observation. it is the basis for your obsession.

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MIT's (via Gates) patent for QDT:
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en

As folks here are so keen on bible stuff, this other Gate's related (Microsoft, pre departure) patent may be more relevant reading for them, instead of the QDT:
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606

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ohnonotgmail wrote: »

a QDT is a way to place a piece of data under the skin in a non-permanent way. nothing more. anything after you have invented yourself to fulfill a biblical prophecy. and it is more than an interesting observation. it is the basis for your obsession.

Again, you haven't said Y/N to this question (as per it's own patent):

Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

Can only deduce you refuse to address it, without resorting to false distractions.
Fair enough that's your privilege, and could care less. Time of lunch!