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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Don't mind that crotch sniffer :pac:

    Ah here, that’s going too far.










    I’d never go for north south, it’s a useless position. Crucifix spam is where it’s at. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I'm selling my ps4 in about 2 weeks (yes, going that far to dodge fighting ye :D ) but will try getting in a few scraps with ye before then. Will be installing again on my ps5 but that will be November with shiny new games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Might be on one of the nights to play, sorry about not getting involved in the tournament as planned but I just have so little appetite to play this for some reason, and I’ve been gaming much less in general these days anyway.

    Even though the game is a bit of a bore competitively online, it’s always fun fighting anyone from here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 WhymeWhynot


    3.00 Patch is out
    Added 2 new fighters Calvin Kattar and Pedro Munhoz
    Added following fighters to new weight classes:
    Jon Jones to Heavyweight
    Omari Akhmedov to Middleweight
    Frankie Edgar to Bantamweight
    Alexander Gustafsson to Heavyweight
    Added new items to Create A Fighter which include new hair styles, clothing items, and emotes to choose from
    Added Venue select to Invite A Friend
    Updated Main Menu and created a new category, Learn, which includes Practice, Tutorials and Training Manual
    Accessibility still remains under Settings

    Added Simplified Controls option to Custom Fight Now Settings. This control scheme simplifies the striking controls to basic inputs and the game chooses what strike to throw next based on the situation.
    Simplified Controls is a new option inside Custom Fight Now that lets you put up a fight without having to know all striking inputs.
    You can turn it on individually for each corner. When turned on, use the face buttons to attack and the right trigger to defend. The AI will then choose what moves or actions to perform based on the timing of the button presses and the situation.

    Each face button corresponds to a type of attack:
    X (Xbox) – Square (PS) correspond to punches
    A (Xbox) – X (PS) correspond to kicks
    Y (Xbox) – Triangle (PS) correspond to clinch
    B (Xbox) – Circle (PS) correspond to takedown
    RT (Xbox) – R2 (PS) is used for both blocking high and low and sways, depending on timing

    Gameplay Updates
    Added the ability to deny Spear Takedowns
    Persistent Drive added to a few positions
    The Back Clinch Drives from Back Clinch and Cage Back Clinch.
    Persistent drives are when the attacker has a chance to make a quick turn, even after a fast denial, before the drive ends in a break.
    Added D’arce Choke to Back Side Postured up position
    Added transition to Side Control from Back Side Postured up

    Added Get Up transition to Back Side Postured Up
    Added dynamic denial windows to flying submissions
    Added additional information to Practice Mode HUD
    Damage Blocked – Amount of blocked damage
    Damage Range – % mod due to range landed at
    Damage Vulnerability – % mod caused by vulnerability

    Current Stamina Damage – %mod caused by current stamina
    Max Stamina Damage – % mod caused by max stamina
    Opponent Stamina Damage – % mod caused by opponent’s stamina
    Fixed issue where consecutive knees from Muay Thai clinch would prevent transition to cage clinch.
    Bug when backing up in thai, the Dom could spam knees to prevent entering the cage position.
    Fixed issue where some GnP Hooks appeared to land through successful posts.

    Fixed issue where Stacked Guard Heel Hook and Kneebar were on the same input only allowing one to execute.
    Fixed an issue with players escaping Takedowns immediately in certain BackClinch scenarios
    Fixed an issue with potential accidental sway inputs after posting
    Fixed an issue where ground strikes were not causing visual damage to fighters
    Fixed an issue where players could instantly get up from Tower takedowns
    Fixed issue with roles being swapped after cage get up from Sprawl
    Fixed issue with bicep control “spam” cancelling opponent’s knees
    Fixed instances of improper defenses being successful against clinch takedowns

    Fixed instances of improper defenses being successful against takedown turns
    Fixed issue with undue priority given to some ground transitions
    Fixed issues with sways during Ground and Pound
    Back Side Dom punches interrupted Sub transitions. These are now disabled during the transition
    Body Side Kick and Spinning Side kick now target opponent’s head if they’re slipping forward
    Head damage now causes a small stamina drain
    Slightly increased damage from Knee on Belly

    Slightly increased permanent damage caused by ground and pound
    Increased the effect of damage attributes
    Removed option to block while leaning back
    Tuned striking during clinch escapes
    Reduced duration of the Half guard posture state
    Removed evasion stamina penalty from attacks evaded by blocking sways
    Slip Counters have been tuned
    Tuned clinch entry and escape stamina

    Tuned the takedown finish and denial stamina costs
    Tuned submissions
    Tuned Stamina cost of Ground and Pound Strikes
    Tuned Pro and Legendary AI choke submission movement speeds to ensure the Legendary AI does not get punished for moving too quickly.

    Misc. Updates
    Miscellaneous updates to some UFC fighter appearances/likenesses
    Cody Garbrandt – Tattoo Update
    Kevin Lee – Tattoo Update
    Tim Elliot – Tattoo Update
    Makwan Amirkhani – Tattoo Update
    Fabricio Werdum – Tattoo Update
    Eddie Wineland – Tattoo and Mustache update
    Jimmie Rivera tattoo update
    Anthony Smith – Tattoo update
    Fixed various UI issues
    Fixed issues with progression for some of the challenges
    Updated OWC Fighter Select to hide opponent’s name and division
    Disabled Ground Defence arrows on Legendary difficulty
    Stamina HUD has been updated visually
    Fixed general stability issues


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I have it a lash last night, liked the stamina changes and some little quality of life changes. I still didn't finish my first career so went back to it. Was swearing at my telly in no time. The fights are fun the camp is god awful. How did they not tweak the ai? My boxing partner either runs away or tries to kill me, no normal sparring. My bjj and wrestling partners either try to stand and bang or on the mat, they won't advance and just block my transitions. Infuriating getting through a camp in peak fitness. Made me just turn it off again.

    I can't see them updating career and nothing else i want to do in the game.

    I'd love a studio make a complete no brand mma game, no licensing, just put all your money in getting the game right with a good career. I'd play a no name mma game over ufc game any day if it was good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I also thought UFC 253, will go on a do some fights and remembered they got rid of that and now you just do challenges like "play 5 MW fights". Do a rake of challenges and unlock a profile pic. Seriously, did they have a meeting and say we have this great idea! or was it what took the least amount of effort and money to implement? This game, mode wise, is a pile of ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Zero-Cool wrote: »


    I'd love a studio make a complete no brand mma game, no licensing, just put all your money in getting the game right with a good career. I'd play a no name mma game over ufc game any day if it was good enough.

    Agree with this completely. Just make up characters like they do with Tekken or street fighter haha I'm not sure official fighters are 100% necessary for success with these sorts of games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    I also thought UFC 253, will go on a do some fights and remembered they got rid of that and now you just do challenges like "play 5 MW fights". Do a rake of challenges and unlock a profile pic. Seriously, did they have a meeting and say we have this great idea! or was it what took the least amount of effort and money to implement? This game, mode wise, is a pile of ****.
    Haven't played it in weeks and dunno when I'll play it again seeing as sold my last ps4. Actually regret buying it to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 WhymeWhynot


    Another patch with "general fixes" out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Haven't played it in weeks and dunno when I'll play it again seeing as sold my last ps4. Actually regret buying it to be honest.

    Same situation here, blitzed it in the week or two after release and hardly touched since then. Have the patches made much of a difference? I should have just waited for it to hit gamepass/ea play I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    UFC 4 is free for the next 3 days. Check other psn and xbox stores.

    Brock was added to the game as a premium fighter. Geoff Harrower said he added an easter egg of Brock doing his infamous tumble in UFC 2 and looks like it carried over to 3 and now 4.

    https://twitter.com/GeoffHarrower/status/1319329098037039104?s=19


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Havent played this in forever, played about 4 fights tonight and its still garbage. Add to that being matched with players with high ping times. Biggest waste of money in a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Axwell wrote: »
    Havent played this in forever, played about 4 fights tonight and its still garbage. Add to that being matched with players with high ping times. Biggest waste of money in a long time.

    Worst thing is that it only lets you quit when the ping goes above 120, when in reality, anything above 70 is a terrible gaming experience.

    I’ve spent more time reloading the game than actually fighting, and then the gameplay isn’t even that great when you do get to play it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    They made an absolute balls of it lads. Half of me wants another dev to take other but then we'll be looking at years of them trying to get it right. The other half is going next one in 2ish years will be better but can't look forward to it when 4 is only out a couple of months This wouldn't be so bad if it was yearly but bi yearly for this shyte is just awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    I didn’t even buy it this year. My 10hr trial gave me a good idea what it’d be like. Still playing UFC 3 daily.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Mr Blobby wrote: »
    I didn’t even buy it this year. My 10hr trial gave me a good idea what it’d be like. Still playing UFC 3 daily.

    I'd love UFC 3 with the clinch from 4 and ultimate team from 2 :)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    I'd love UFC 3 with the clinch from 4 and ultimate team from 2 :)

    See that would be great and to be honest id be fine with them even removing Ultimate Team from it if it was a distraction to the core development of the game. Some form of CAF and the ability to use them in their own form of tournaments and rankings etc is enough for me.

    I think at this stage I would just like to see someone else come and have a go. With all their sports games EA are notorious for just churning out the same game every year with minimal updates or changes and most of the time breaking more stuff than adding new great features.

    While someone else coming in would be starting from scratch and probably like you said would take a few iterations to get to the point where they had something great I do think that seeing what's been done already in the current games and what works and what doesn't gives them a good starting point.

    Even better would be to see THQ and Yukes get to take over and see what they can do with it, had THQ keep going from Undisputed 3 I would love to see where the game would be at right now.

    Failing that if we did have to sit through more of EA making MMA games id love to just see someone come along and develop one without the licensing and names, just make a really great MMA game and show what can be done and I am sure that UFC/Bellator/ONE etc would take notice and jump onboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Wow, UFC extend their deal with EA for another 10 years. EA surely can see the drop off in players this year and make a huge change in direction to where this game is going.

    https://twitter.com/ZyafYT/status/1324398242256228352?s=19


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Well that's disappointing, hope some other dev studio comes along and makes another MMA game at this stage as per my previous post as I wont be picking up this EA garbage again if things stay like they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    So EA have added a new Cobor video for this weekend.... From Cobor v Dustin 1 which i think he only had that legends for 1 or 2 fights.

    Haven't played this in yonks, any chance they added a fight card to play out actual events for rewards?

    https://twitter.com/EASPORTSUFC/status/1352285592663547905?s=19


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    So EA have added a new Cobor video for this weekend.... From Cobor v Dustin 1 which i think he only had that legends for 1 or 2 fights.

    Haven't played this in yonks, any chance they added a fight card to play out actual events for rewards?

    https://twitter.com/EASPORTSUFC/status/1352285592663547905?s=19

    Nope, and even if they did at this point I still wouldn’t go back to it. Gameplay is absolutely gack, it seems to have gotten worse with patches. Went on for a few fights the last evening and what once would’ve turned into a 5-6 hour session, I turned it back off within half an hour. I got the Blitz Battles trophy which means there’s an easy platinum waiting for me but I can’t even be arsed enough to get that.

    Fear not though, the inevitable fully-priced, 61 FPS PS5 upgraded version will add back in all the features they took out. I’m only half joking, it honestly wouldn’t shock me.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Haven't played this in forever and at this stage don't think there's anything that would make me bother unless they said we decided to completely scrap the game..redesigned it and released it again and you get that for free in place of this ****e we gave you to begin with...

    As I said before wish I stuck to my guns on it and waited instead of getting it early on expecting them to improve on things. Won't make the mistake again and when there's talk of UFC 5 and there's a thread going we need to all remember this thread and how it turned out and not fool ourselves into expecting anything different from 5 and paying for it on EA access and digital giving them money for garbage. Unfortunately, until someone else starts to make a rival MMA game I dont see us getting anything to be excited about though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I get the first 3 games were building it but 4 was goddamn laziness. I get they don't get the budget of fifa but 4 felt like it should have been free to play. Zero hype for 5 now but fear I'll still be getting it at launch unless a rival mma game comes but which is fairly doubtful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Threw this on again today to check out the new update (calf kicks, harder to break blocks, more permanent stamina loss from ground transitions) and for bored after a few fights. The ground game is basically wait for the other guy to move to block/counter it and even though that's what it's basically about irl, it's so slow in the game. Geoff did some fantastic work over the years but a new ground game is needed badly.

    Said I'd check out some new customisation items and owned to start a new cobra kai career with a badass gi wearing karate master. Only red or orange shaolin monk style gi which is very disappointing but it's ok thought because they have a werewolf, elf and robot costume. Jesus ****ing Christ.

    I turned it off again and in a bad mood since. Just another year and half before we get another go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭akelly02


    this game is so bad, bitterly dissapointed


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Threw this on again today

    ...it was at this moment I knew Zero Cool was ****ed.

    Its just foolish of us to turn it on in the hopes something might magically change or improve the game at this stage. In typical EA fashion they couldn't care less, the game is out there and made some money and they just go back to what they were doing (mostly counting all their money from Ultimate team on FIFA) until its time to start considering rolling out another UFC game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Axwell wrote: »
    ...it was at this moment I knew Zero Cool was ****ed.

    Its just foolish of us to turn it on in the hopes something might magically change or improve the game at this stage. In typical EA fashion they couldn't care less, the game is out there and made some money and they just go back to what they were doing (mostly counting all their money from Ultimate team on FIFA) until its time to start considering rolling out another UFC game.

    It's mad how well they fooled the press as well as the first hour or 2 of this looks good enough to get a good review, they knew it was just enough work to make some sells, awful.

    Has anyone played UFC 3 lately? I'm tempted to download it again to try it. I think the big thing it's missing is the new clinch game but i could just avoid the clinch.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    On paper, it sounds great though - Blitz battles, backyard brawls, amazing new (insert EA made up name here for something or other), improved clinch game..blah blah blah.

    There's always enough there to dazzle and if you are playing an earlier version you assume stuff is tweaked and fixed. I remember a good few years ago I got to go over to EA in Surrey and play the new FIFA that was coming out and speak to the equivalent of Geoff. You get dazzled by being there, by getting your hands on this new game for a bit, stuff instantly is going to look and feel different because it is..but it doesn't mean its better..its just different and first impressions usually are elevated because of that. Oh yeah it feels much better, this looked so much better, this new feature is great..cant wait for the full release.

    Then the full game comes out and you actually sit down and start putting hours into it and you realise oh wait, this part is actually really broken, and this stuff that was great..they have made a mess of in favour of that tiny thing they added that I thought was cool at the time..until i realised the stuff they sacrificed in favour of it. All these new modes they added..they sound cool, but wait you cant play them online, against other people...you can only play them in your gaff wth others..what is this 1995? Even now FIFA has Volta mode which is like street football, playing in basketball courts and stuff..sounded amazing when they announced it, until it came out and it was just against the AI or offline but they pretty much kept that part secret until right before it dropped.

    We used to run FIFA leagues and within the game there was a whole league feature where you could setup an online league, you just added the teams and then it would do all the fixtures and leaderboards etc..then one year they just removed it completely. I remember asking him what was the reason for taking it out and he said there wasn't as a huge demand for it, and I said but it was just a mode there really for managing data it was still using the same engine and gameplay as if I was just playing someone online in any other mode. He had no argument and no real reason for taking it out, and it was a feature that plenty of communities used so it was popular enough..but the reality was they wanted to push online play towards ultimate team since that as the money maker. Remove as much of the other modes and stuff that was a distraction as possible and try drive people to Ultimate Team.

    I felt UFC was going this way when they added Ultimate Team and I was completely against it as it would ruin the game going forward, thankfully they made an absolute balls of it and it flopped. But the flip side of that is because it flopped and because this is an MMA game and doesn't have the same large fan base as FIFA they probably looked at it and said oh well we tried that and it didn't work so let's just focus on tweaking what we have, adding as much gloss to it so it looks like its much improved but lets try reuse a much as we can from the previous game and tweak some of the bigger things based on feedback. Thats basically what we got and unfortunately since they got a new contract that's really what we are going to continue to get going forward until some other company decides to make an MMA game and give it some competition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    So Vettori is one of the latest fighters added but they made him him regular stance with no switch stat when in fact he's a Southpaw. Also, the challenges for UFC 258 are backwards. The 'win 5 fights as Usman' can only be completed if you play as Burns and the 'win 5 fights as Burns' can only be won as Usman. The devs don't give a single ****.

    Gonna install UFC 2 later just to give it a quick try. I imagine the standup wouldn't be as smooth but interested just to see how UT single player holds up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    The only one of these games i ever owned was UFC 3. I thought it was great until it got to the ground game. The ground game in that was honest to god dreadful. No matter how hard i tried i think i only ever managed to get 1 or 2 submissions, and not once could i escape from a submission. Im not exaggerating when i say i have literally had an easier time pulling of submissions in real life BJJ than in fictional video game BJJ. Id play as someone like Demian Maia and manage to get a KO easier than a submission. Like wtf is up with that?? I uninstalled it out of sheer frustration after about a week. Dont think id ever bother trying another one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Gave UFC 2 another whirl, jumped into Ultimate team to see my roster of comic characters still there. Straight into Single Player championships and forgot you fight against other peoples downloaded fighters, such a great system. Anyway, we were 2 low level fighters so it felt slow and lacking moves and we couldn't ko each other. Went all 3 rounds and we were both completely bust up by the end. Bought a few packs with a ton of points I had from last time playing and unlocked some class moves.

    I t was a great laugh but overall, the standup was too much of a stepback to keep going with it. Once you get used to the fluid movement of 3 and then 4, 2 seems a bit 'stuck in the mud'. It's mad to see how downhill some features went though in 3 and further in 4.


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 WhymeWhynot


    Patch notes for March4th update
    Added 2 new fighters, Kevin Holland and Vicente Luque
    Added a timed delay to matchmaking if a user repeatedly does not finish online matches
    Gameplay Updates:


    Clinch Knees now receive a boost when Knees Boost is active in Career
    Fixed animation issue in a specific diving punch knee on belly entry
    Community Feedback:

    Updated Michael Chandler’s nickname to “Iron” Michael Chandler
    Osoto-Gari is no longer available to Created Fighters
    Slipping strikes are now slower while rocked
    Significantly increased effect of Grapple Advantage on Takedowns

    Decreased denial window for the low single takedown
    Takedown denials now drain 20% more permanent stamina from the attacker
    Fixed animation issue in the early denial of the open stance single leg
    Added damage for the following slams:
    Kimbo Slam (right turn from cage single leg)

    Double Leg Slam from Cage Single Leg (left turn from cage single leg)
    Cage Bodylock Slam (left turn from cage double leg)
    Slowed down the advancing switch kick
    Body knees and frontal kicks can no longer be evaded by head movement
    Slowed down back side posture fakes and made the animation more readable
    Slowed down lead overhand combos
    Special counter from Side Saddle to North South now requires a large stamina advantage

    Fixed issue with jab – body side kick combo not working with “mixed movement”, such using one strike advancing and another stationary.
    Fixed a brief “freezing” animation issue when trying to walk and sway after a slipping straight
    Significantly slowed down jab – handplant kick combo


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    God this game actually is such garbage..decided after UFC 259 I might throw it on and have a few fights and see if anything had changed. Never really bothered with online championships so I go to that as blitz battles was something stupid and not worth doing.

    Instantly I'm reminded that if you decide to use your created fighter online you have to choose one of the dumb presets, you cant actually give your created fighter the actual moves you want to use..who thought that was a good idea!?

    I have a few fights and I am winning them just taking my time, focusing on stamina and boxing and not rushing things. I am a bit rusty anyways having not played in ages..because it decides what division you are fighting in I'm forced to pick fighters rather than pick whatever division I want to use..again another great idea. I end up getting a few submission victories and I'm thinking hmm has something changed, is this game actually playable..NOPE.

    I move up a few divisions and the crucifix spammers are out in force, every takedown is constant attempts to transition to side mount, crucifix and spam the punches. If its not that its the fact that the game seems to just randomly decide if you are gonna get knocked out or rocked...I'm landing punches and just damaging the guy, we trade and he lands the same punches I do and I'm rocked..not caught mid punch or sidestepped..just a standard punch to the face. Same on the ground, they have me in full mount and they hit me 3 times and I'm ko'd..I can be on top and raining down punches while they it there with no stamina and somehow they don't get rocked.. it's extremely inconsistent and infuriating to play.

    It's actually such a step backwards from 3 in every way..like I said previously I don't know how they turn the game around at all if they keep delivering this sort of garbage for the foresee and I can only imagine the following for it dwindle from whats already probably not a huge amount of sales so there's no incentive for them to even bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Started a thread for the new boxing game coming out eSports Boxing Club. Looking good so far but no idea when it will be out. Huge roster so far with some kickboxers added and even Cris Cyborg! I much prefer mma to boxing but I'll take any combat sports game over UFC 4. Pity i can't play any of the fight nights on ps5. I played a small bit of fight night champion on ps3 a few years back but my joypas would double input button press so couldn't play properly.

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058175185/1/#post116794579


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Started a thread for the new boxing game coming out eSports Boxing Club. Looking good so far but no idea when it will be out. Huge roster so far with some kickboxers added and even Cris Cyborg! I much prefer mma to boxing but I'll take any combat sports game over UFC 4. Pity i can't play any of the fight nights on ps5. I played a small bit of fight night champion on ps3 a few years back but my joypas would double input button press so couldn't play properly.

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058175185/1/#post116794579

    The gameplay looks pretty solid in that, even if licensing is weak (it could never have been anything else in fairness).

    If it’s well received, it might get EA to pull their finger out at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    New patch adding Rob Font and Cyril Gane. More importantly, Venum kits added and you finally choose your kit/colour in the fighter select screen.

    https://www.ea.com/games/ufc/ufc-4/news/ufc-4-patch-notes-10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    I'm guessing the reason they didn't have the option with Reebok is because they they'd be switching.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Mr Blobby wrote: »
    I'm guessing the reason they didn't have the option with Reebok is because they they'd be switching.

    Most likely but a pretty lame reason if the case, not bothering to put the ability into swap kits because 8 months after the release you will be changing sponsor and will add it then..just lazy along with no PS5 version update while FIFA and Madden got one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    I've actually been playing a fair bit recently. Enjoying it a bit more now since it scratches my Fifa itch.
    But its defo a step down compared to last year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Very strangely, director Brian Hayes is doing a livestream tonight at 8pm our time with live q&a. Unless he's announcing a new game, it should be a disaster. Will be tuning in to see anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I might have a look at that just to see all the abuse he’ll get.


    I may or may not partake in that myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I didn't watch it but read he said they won't be using the same engine as the last 4 games. Sound like they'll be trying something different at least bit my hype couldn't be lower unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,203 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    PR to limit the damage from 4 and attempt to paint the devs as listening to their audience and big up some potential changes for the new and improved game blah blah

    I still play Undisputed 3, I really with those guys were still doing the games.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Undisputed 3 was definitely a peak for MMA games at the time and EA's first attempt was a big step down from it but I felt they made huge strides with 2 and 3 was the best MMA game I've ever played, but that's only my opinion and not everyone felt the same about it.

    They stripped so many modes and features with 4 and replaced them with literally nothing. The gameplay isn't much, if any, better either so I don't know where those resources went. If they can even bring back UT and Live Events in 5 and tidy up the gameplay and graphics a good bit for next gen consoles, that'll do for me.

    And if they just scrapped all the cosmetic and taunting bulls**t as well, that'd be great. It adds nothing to the game, leave that sh**e to Fortnite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    It's weird, it's like EA are saying this game doesn't make much money so won't give a proper budget so add fortnite **** to make it more popular with the kids. It goes down as the most empty souless mma game ever and they go ahead and renew the UFC license, just strange. Maybe with the newly renewed license and the backlash towards 4, they'll give 5 a proper effort but I've a feeling they'll double down on the bollox acting to make it more down with the kidz.

    Anyway, new update coming, play as Icons in their Prime. Like Prime Khabib... who.. you know.. would already have his prime version in the game. Not sure what they are trying with this, bunch of fighters with slightly different looks but up their rating even more.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    That’s a blatant rip-off of the FIFA Prime Icons (exact same name, how original), only this actually adds nothing new to the game. Haven’t touched this in months and I really don’t miss it, I might even reinstall UFC 3 to see if there’s any online community still left in that, ‘‘twas a proper MMA game with none of the bulls**t from UFC 4.

    Despite all the customisation crap that nobody wanted, it really isn’t all that fun to play either. Can’t quite put my finger on it, but I’d always want one more fight in UFC 3 and couldn’t put the controller down at times, had plenty of long gaming sessions with it. This, I don’t think I’ve ever strung together more than 4 or 5 fights without getting bored. There’s zero depth too, which shockingly happens when you remove two of the core modes from UFC 3 and don’t bother replacing them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Icons now live, loada bollox. Islam added to the roster as well. Patch notes did say the team is busy working on improvements for the future of the franchise so no actual gameplay updates which is good, leave ufc 4 to rot and concentrate on 5.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Well..... was not expecting Molly and Paddy to be added to the game :D Paul Craig & Tom Aspinall also added.

    Just give us UFC 5 news so we can mentally prepare for disappointment.




  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    This is just going to go down the same cycle that FIFA does as long as it is with EA. They will announce UFC 5 at some point and pick 5 new features or improvements and focus heavily on those along with claims of some new engine or advanced *insert marketing name here* intelligence/graphics. Then the game will launch and be the exact same as the year before except with the biggest complaints people had fixed but 10 different things broken in its place, most of which were working perfectly fine before. With FIFA they got lazy because they make so much money from Ultimate Team that they literally just churn the game out year on year now with minor tweaks and it makes a boat load of cash for them. A few new designs on cards, a new user interface and that's about it each year at launch. Then throughout the year they just churn out new versions of player cards to entice people to spend on packs etc to the point where there's a new type of card out nearly every week or two. UFC doesnt have that luxury but they seem to be happy to sit on their hands once it's launched and not make any improvements, a few character skins dropped throughout the year to add new fighters and that's about it.

    The best thing that could have happened to the game was EA didnt get the license to make it anymore and someone else got a go. Until that happens be prepared to just play the same broken game each time with what sounds like some cool new features to encourage you to preorder, only to then 10 hours later wish you hadnt wasted your money and fell for the hype.


    I find myself going on every now and then when I just want to play something quick and am in the mood to throw hands rather than play a shooter or something else. I'm level 97 in Online World Championships and every time I play it just reminds me how broken the game is but also their ranking system. One fight I can face someone level 80 and the next the person can be level 15 and the reality is in some ways either has as much chance of beating me because the game is so wonky at times. Blitz Battles and the like sounded early on like they could be fun but that got boring very quickly and theres no real incentive to go back in and play it over and over again. As you said..hurry up and announce it so we can prepare for the disappointment.


    Side note - whats that Boxing game called you posted about before, or any update on it? It was looking decent at the time and a sign of what you can have if you give someone outside of the EA's of this world a shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    ESBC (E-Sports Boxing Club). It delayed release but only due to the fact it got a major investment and they decided they could make the game a lot better and reworked systems and signed a ton of fighters, coaches, promotors and Journos. Local MMA outlet Fight Connect TV and Lydia will be in the game which is just class.





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