Right Wing Grifters

The Plague wrote: »

You really need to go outside and get laid.

Wibbs wrote: »

It's a clear example of misinformation and was all over the British media at the time as one of the cornerstones of the Brexit campaign. The Brexit side clearly saw it as an effective marketing tool for their campaign. There were other examples of stoking up fears, Turkey joining the EU and an influx of people from there was another. The immigration aspect was a strong influence. Like I said, I'm no "left winger" particularly on immigration and don't want this country to suffer the same social issues on the back of it the way the UK has, but it was in play in that campaign. Never mind that the guts of the UK's immigrant population trends were historically and remain from her former colonies, not the EU. Claims that Brexit wouldn't mean leaving the single market was another one. Britain being able to work out deals with individual EU states another.

Oh don't get me wrong the Remain side came out with their own dubious claims too. EG the claim that the two thirds of the UK's manufacturing industries were reliant on the EU was one, the near guaranteed breakup of the UK another, but overall the Brexit side had more howlers on this score.

It was a sh1t show on a few fronts. Never mind that the UK voters unlike Irish voters aren't used to running and voting in referendums. IIRC they've only had two(?) in their history, the first was a vote to join the Common Market. For all the BS within Irish politics there is at least the aim for the government to provide independent information concerning referendums and their meanings. In the UK they didn't have that and it was left to two sides to provide information and neither were independent.

Wibbs wrote: »

Because it's looking ever more and more unlikely that they'll be invited to join in anything like the near future. This part wasn't mentioned by the Brexit side. Hell, the Remain side didn't seem to understand it. Though to be fair their joining has gone far more backwards into the future since the Brexit referendum. There are 30 odd legal chapters that a prospective nation has to jump through to get into the EU, Turkey has only completed 16 and the book is currently closed on the rest. Over the last couple of years the EU powers have - and for the first time with a nation trying to get in - given Turkey major political static over all sorts of issues to the degree it has issued a clear statement on the matter which says:

“The Council notes that Turkey has been moving further away from the European Union. Turkey’s accession negotiations have therefore effectively come to a standstill and no further chapters can be considered for opening or closing and no further work towards the modernisation of the EU-Turkey Customs Union is foreseen,”

Check out this graphic on Turkey's requirements to join. The only green is go criteria is in science and research. Every single other one is redder than a turkey's comb(apt ) or still up for grabs.



Well since you know my previous D, I'm sure well you're aware of my stance on multiculturalism, "diversity" and all that nonsense and that the UK is most certainly not the way I want our country to go and if there were a vote on it that would make a difference I'd be casting it.

However for whatever reasons someone might have for voting to leave the EU and I can see a couple, the one area where it's kinda daft is on the topic of immigration. Of the foreign born non UK people living there, the EU folks are made up of Poles, Irish and Germans in order of magnitude. OK bye bye EU and bye bye Poles and Germans(neither group exactly well known for civil and social unrest). The Irish are allowed free travel anyway. The rest of the again foreign born are made up of those from the Indian subcontinent, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan. Not in the EU.

Of those long standing immigrant populations that are born and bred in Britain and hold British passports for a few generations and where much of the ethnic strife kicks off, almost none are from the EU. They're again from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and the Caribbean with some from Africa and some East Asians. The knife murders in London, the riots down the years, the rapes in Rotherham, the Islamist attacks and all those social issues that tend to come on the back of modern multiculturalism are nada to do with EU migrants. They are down to England's imperial past and her former colonies and the need for workers back in the 50's and 60's when they were invited in. The only time EU citizens were in play was during the Troubles when Irish Republicans were setting off bombs, but again they had free travel anyway, EU or not(and was again a result of England's colonial past) and were at that before they even joined. Sure the EU were asking to home Syrians, but they're so far a drop in the ocean compared to the others and the UN will likely ask for help there anyway.

Britain leaving the EU because of immigration is akin to feeling your house is draughty, then voting to close an upstairs window thinking that solves it while leaving your front door wide open.

alastair wrote: »

By providing services to the government that would otherwise cost the government in direct outgoings.

The time has come to focus attention on homeless charities - there are 23 in Dublin alone; on what Archbishop Diarmuid Martin referred to on national radio last week as the "homeless industry".

20Cent wrote: »

Arch alt right grifter Katie Hopkins got pranked very funny.
Kicked off twitter as well, good stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRIdtMlqwNA