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Right Wing Grifters

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    #212
    CtevenSrowder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    20Cent wrote: »
    Of course they are worse it's patently clear.

    The worst anyone can come up with in this thread is David Pakman the most unassuming calm chap going.

    But that wasn't your original claim.

    So you do at least accept that there are left wing grifters then, yes?


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    #213
    suicide_circus
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    "My side are angels, its them others whats no good!"


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    #214
    One eyed Jack
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    20Cent wrote: »
    I'm claiming that there is no left wing equivalent to the far right grifter brigade that we see. People like Alex Jones, Tommy Robinson Katie Hopkins etc.

    Prove me wrong by naming some and throw up some bids or whatnot.

    Simples.com


    I read your opening post, you still want people to prove you wrong.

    I’m asking you why would I be bothered? Why do you think anyone should be bothered?


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    #215
    20Cent
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cass-clemmer-trans-periods_n_597101bce4b0aa14ea78a251

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/yes-men-can-have-periods-and-we-need-to-talk-about-them

    It is a common enough opinion.

    Don't see anyone call it hate speech.


    Man you really had to dig deep into the bowels of the fringe of the internet to find something to get offended about. Man periods lol.


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    #216
    20Cent
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    I read your opening post, you still want people to prove you wrong.

    I’m asking you why would I be bothered? Why do you think anyone should be bothered?

    I'm not bothered answering that.


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    #217
    CtevenSrowder
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    20Cent wrote: »
    I'm not bothered answering that.

    Do you accept there are left wing grifters?


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    #218
    FTA69
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    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    Do you accept there are left wing grifters?

    There are absolutely people putting out utter waffle and then looking for donations on patreon and the like, yes.


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    #219
    [Deleted User]
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    Man, I hate the word 'grifter'..

    Ya know 20cent..You come across as fairly stupid at times..


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    #220
    CtevenSrowder
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    There are absolutely people putting out utter waffle and then looking for donations on patreon and the like, yes.

    I'm asking 20cent if he believes there are though.


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    #221
    Tasfasdf
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Man, I hate the word 'grifter'..

    Ya know 20cent..You come across as fairly stupid at times..

    Got spend your entire day doing something, fighting fascists on boards is his calling.


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    #222
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Issues being challenged by the left:
    Racism, Fascism, Homophobia, Sexism, Discrimination, mass shooters, Poverty Climate Change.



    Issues being challenged by the right:
    Men say they can have periods but I said they can't and someone on twitter was mean about it.


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    #223
    Will I Am Not
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    My only experience of Alex Jones was on JRE podcast. It was highly entertaining to me. I also enjoyed listening to David Pakman on there too.
    Neither will be profiting from me though.
    More power to them if they can make a living from their audience.


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    #224
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Don't see anyone call it hate speech.


    Man you really had to dig deep into the bowels of the fringe of the internet to find something to get offended about. Man periods lol.

    Interesting tactic chief. I was pointing out the fact that you (and people like you) have no issue insulting the appearance of anyone you perceive to be Alt-right, yet it is usually people like you who claim it as hate speech/violence if someone you didn't like was doing it.

    The bit about male periods was to represent whatever wacky Cause de jour the left are championing these days. You can substitute that for whatever Vox or wherever is telling you to believe. I didn't really have to look far. Just typed in Men can have periods into google.

    You keep repeating that I am offended despite me saying on numerous occasions that I am not. I don't get offended very easily, especially not by WUM on boards.


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    #225
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Issues being challenged by the left:
    Racism, Fascism, Homophobia, Sexism, Discrimination, mass shooters, Poverty Climate Change.



    Issues being challenged by the right:
    Men say they can have periods but I said they can't and someone on twitter was mean about it.

    Now now. I was just pointing out your hypocrisy. You really do yourself no favours with this type of disingenuous posting.


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    #226
    CtevenSrowder
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Issues being challenged by the left:
    Racism, Fascism, Homophobia, Sexism, Discrimination, mass shooters, Poverty Climate Change.



    Issues being challenged by the right:
    Men say they can have periods but I said they can't and someone on twitter was mean about it.

    This "analysis" really shows the level you are at.


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    #227
    ohnonotgmail
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    Will I Am Not wrote: »
    My only experience of Alex Jones was on JRE podcast. It was highly entertaining to me. I also enjoyed listening to David Pakman on there too.
    Neither will be profiting from me though.
    More power to them if they can make a living from their audience.

    You mean make a living by causing harm to the families of sandy hook familes? absolutely fantastic entertainment that is if you're deranged.


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    #228
    sabat
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    Millionaire property developer, white-collar criminal, vineyard owner Mick Wallace reinvents himself as a left-wing man of the people. Grifter.

    Former junkie, failed Hollywood actor with failed marriage to popstar Russell Brand suddenly realises that he was a Marxist proselytiser all along. Grifter.


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    #229
    Will I Am Not
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    You mean make a living by causing harm to the families of sandy hook familes? absolutely fantastic entertainment that is if you're deranged.

    As I said, my only experience of him is on that podcast and it was thoroughly entertaining to listen to and I’m not deranged at all.


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    #230
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Interesting tactic chief. I was pointing out the fact that you (and people like you) have no issue insulting the appearance of anyone you perceive to be Alt-right, yet it is usually people like you who claim it as hate speech/violence if someone you didn't like was doing it.

    The bit about male periods was to represent whatever wacky Cause de jour the left are championing these days. You can substitute that for whatever Vox or wherever is telling you to believe. I didn't really have to look far. Just typed in Men can have periods into google.

    You keep repeating that I am offended despite me saying on numerous occasions that I am not. I don't get offended very easily, especially not by WUM on boards.

    Not really have you honestly ever heard a leftwing person talk about that. Bet never.


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    #231
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Not really have you honestly ever heard a leftwing person talk about that. Bet never.

    I have heard transsexuals talk about male periods in real life.

    I have heard members of the LGBT discussing self identification of gender in real life.

    I have spoken in real life to Antifa activists who thought anyone who didn't 100% agree with their special brand of anti-fascism was a "literal" fascist.

    I assume that, by the fact you asked me that, you are more the keyboard warrior type on here but someone who doesn't spout half the amount of guff about "grifters" to anyone you actually meet in person.


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    #232
    20Cent
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I have heard transsexuals talk about male periods in real life.

    I have heard members of the LGBT discussing self identification of gender in real life.

    I have spoken in real life to Antifa activists who thought anyone who didn't 100% agree with their special brand of anti-fascism was a "literal" fascist.

    I assume that, by the fact you asked me that, you are more the keyboard warrior type on here but someone who doesn't spout half the amount of guff about "grifters" to anyone you actually meet in person.


    Must have been tough hearing about the man periods, was it worse than the two tours in Nam?


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    #233
    Junkyard Tom
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Meet the Left Wing Grifters…

    https://theoutline.com/post/5973/meet-the-resistance-grifters?zd=1&zi=z4g3bhm2

    This is how utterly fucked politics is in the US. I recognise two of those names, Frum and Brennan. Frum was one of the principal architects of the Iraq war and Brennan was a former CIA officer, 'left wing' eh?

    These people are described as 'left-wing' because they are Trump critical. Trump is a moron. You don't have to be left or right to know that.


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    #234
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Must have been tough hearing about the man periods, was it worse than the two tours in Nam?

    I will actually answer your snide response.

    It was tough listening to these people speak about a subject that they believed in so passionately because I have the polar opposite opinion to theirs. When your views are so diametrically opposed, it can be tough to have the conversation, but I think that it is hugely important to listen to views and opinions which don't align with your own.

    So while difficult, it wasn't worse than "the two tours in Nam" or whatever ****e you want to go on about.


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    #235
    ohnonotgmail
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I will actually answer your snide response.

    It was tough listening to these people speak about a subject that they believed in so passionately because I have the polar opposite opinion to theirs. When your views are so diametrically opposed, it can be tough to have the conversation, but I think that it is hugely important to listen to views and opinions which don't align with your own.

    So while difficult, it wasn't worse than "the two tours in Nam" or whatever ****e you want to go on about.

    were you forced to listen? did they tie you to a chair perhaps?


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    #236
    [Deleted User]
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    were you forced to listen? did they tie you to a chair perhaps?

    No, it was a conversation. Some conversations, especially ones involving emotive subjects, can be tough to have but that doesn't mean they aren't worth having.


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    #237
    20Cent
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I will actually answer your snide response.

    It was tough listening to these people speak about a subject that they believed in so passionately because I have the polar opposite opinion to theirs. When your views are so diametrically opposed, it can be tough to have the conversation, but I think that it is hugely important to listen to views and opinions which don't align with your own.

    So while difficult, it wasn't worse than "the two tours in Nam" or whatever ****e you want to go on about.

    Ok, but I'm sure most posters in this thread are curious and want to know how you ended up being stuck in a conversation about man periods.


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    #238
    Junkyard Tom
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I have heard transsexuals talk about male periods in real life ... I have heard members of the LGBT discussing self identification of gender in real life ... I have spoken in real life to Antifa activists

    Out of interest, how do you find yourself in those people's company? How easy would it be for you to tune their issues out of your life if the bother you so much?


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    #239
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Ok, but I'm sure most posters in this thread are curious and want to know how you ended up being stuck in a conversation about man periods.

    One of my closest friends is gay and has trans friends. I was at his housewarming and among the people there were his friends who are female to male trans.

    Over the course of the night the whole issue regarding the tampons being made available in men's toilets was mentioned, (jokingly and lightheartedly it must be said) but then we ended up having a more serious chat about self ID'ing and they wanted to know my opinion on it. Gender neutral toilets were discussed and even the subject of sanitary products being made available to them even though they identified as men.

    I never said I was stuck in a conversation.


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    #240
    [Deleted User]
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Out of interest, how do you find yourself in those people's company? How easy would it be for you to tune their issues out of your life if the bother you so much?

    I'm not bothered. I just hold very different opinions. I don't avoid people for fear that I will disagree with them.


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    #241
    Lefty Bicek
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    One of my closest friends is gay and has trans friends. I was at his housewarming and among the people there were his friends who are female to male trans.

    Over the course of the night the whole issue regarding the tampons being made available in men's toilets was mentioned, (jokingly and lightheartedly it must be said) but then we ended up having a more serious chat about self ID'ing and they wanted to know my opinion on it. Gender neutral toilets were discussed and even the subject of sanitary products being made available to them even though they identified as men.

    I never said I was stuck in a conversation.

    They won't get that.

    People who spend their lives as much as possible with people they 'identify' with, and who reinforce their own worldview, in their little safe spaces...

    they just don't have your ability to converse with other perspectives.


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