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Premier league 2020

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    #122
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    as soon as Wright hit a 170 checkout durrants game went to piuces and he was hanging on....but wright who had the throw to win 7-4 then started doing the same.

    Even when durrant who messed up in the last leg, wright made a miscount and blew it again.


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    #123
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Durrant very impressive


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    #124
    Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    peteeeed wrote: »
    Durrant very impressive

    Extremely impressive MVG doesnt like playing him delighted for him after his mouthing


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    #125
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    wonderful result.....MVG loves running his mouth, glad durrant shut it for him

    putin-and-the-gimp-13034034-copy.png


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    #126
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Peter Wright had a 9 darter tonight! Just tuning in now for Durrant v Anderson.


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    #127
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    MVG again beaten, his average was decent but price was excellent, very tight to see who will make it through. Durrant should have been beaten but again finds a way


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    #128
    Dillonb3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    Oh dear Smith 7-2 up draws 7-7 against Durrant


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    #129
    A Shaved Duck?
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    Dillonb3 wrote: »
    Oh dear Smith 7-2 up draws 7-7 against Durrant

    Absolute bottle job... such a waste of talent.


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    #130
    siblers
    Registered Users Posts: 12,356 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    MVG is all out of sorts, Wright just blew him away


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    #131
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    well done michael smith, proving me right yet again.

    People whinge when I said he was over rated and the biggest choker in the game, and he sums up everything that is wrong with the pdc ranking system.
    This guy is the pdc #4 despite never winning a thing of note in his dismal career.
    In fact when he is introduced on stage the only title they can say he won is a world series event, and that was an invitational, glorified exbo from years ago.


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    #132
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Come on Glenn!!

    https://twitter.com/WeeklyDartscast/status/1301637692808146946?s=19


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    #133
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    winning the league and winning the title are 2 different things


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    #134
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    winning the league and winning the title are 2 different things

    True.
    Though I actually think in this competition winning the league is of more significance (albeit less money and kudos obviously).
    But at the end of the day any of the 4 who qualify have the potential to win a shortish format semi & final competition - fecks sake Barney even won it.

    But winning the league part has up to now been a signal of an era of darts dominance.
    I doubt Ando or GD are going to have such an era, age alone is against them. So maybe it's a different signal. Perhaps we are, for the first time since maybe the 80s, entering an era where there's no dominant #1 player.


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    #135
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    winning the league and winning the title are 2 different things

    And?


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    #136
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Actually winning the league is the true reflection on who the best player of the tournament was, not winning the playoffs.


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    #137
    Porthallian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭Porthallian


    Devon Petersen and Rod Harrington on comms. Dear Lord!


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    #138
    Ally Dick
    Registered Users Posts: 12,665 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    MVG was let off the hook there


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    #139
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    So one night to go and not a lot decided.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Premier_League_Darts#Table

    Wright v Smith.
    MVG v Gurney.
    Aspinall v Durrant.
    Anderson v Price.

    Durrant the only player qualified and needs just 1 leg against Aspinall to guarantee £25K bonus for first.
    Gary Anderson should make it as well - only a defeat for him, and wins for Wright, Aspinall and MVG could stop him. Even then the combined margins of MVG's win and Anderson's defeat would have to sum up to 9 before he'd be in danger.
    Peter Wright is in with a draw or a win. A defeat leaves him vulnerable to Aspinall and MVG overtaking him.
    Nathan Aspinall definitely in with an 8-2 win, as MVG needs to 'outwin' him by 3 legs. Realistically any win will probably be enough. He'll know what target if any MVG has set him before he plays his game.
    MVG could get in with a draw or even a defeat if Durrant beats up Aspinall, but as he's up before that game will want to do a number on Gurney to give himself more outs.
    Price a bit snookered. Needs to win and for both Durrant to beat Aspinall (plausible) and Gurney to beat MVG (more difficult).


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    #140
    US2
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    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    So one night to go and not a lot decided.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Premier_League_Darts#Table

    Wright v Smith.
    MVG v Gurney.
    Aspinall v Durrant.
    Anderson v Price.

    Durrant the only player qualified and needs just 1 leg against Aspinall to guarantee £25K bonus for first.
    Gary Anderson should make it as well - only a defeat for him, and wins for Wright, Aspinall and MVG could stop him. Even then the combined margins of MVG's win and Anderson's defeat would have to sum up to 9 before he'd be in danger.
    Peter Wright is in with a draw or a win. A defeat leaves him vulnerable to Aspinall and MVG overtaking him.
    Nathan Aspinall definitely in with an 8-2 win, as MVG needs to 'outwin' him by 3 legs. Realistically any win will probably be enough. He'll know what target if any MVG has set him before he plays his game.
    MVG could get in with a draw or even a defeat if Durrant beats up Aspinall, but as he's up before that game will want to do a number on Gurney to give himself more outs.
    Price a bit snookered. Needs to win and for both Durrant to beat Aspinall (plausible) and Gurney to beat MVG (more difficult).

    As much as I love Van Gerwen, I'd love to see him miss out on the playoffs.


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    #141
    Dillonb3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    US2 wrote: »
    As much as I love Van Gerwen, I'd love to see him miss out on the playoffs.

    Looks like your getting your wish :)


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    #142
    Porthallian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭Porthallian


    Have to admit I didn't see that coming. As bad as he's been playing I thought he could pull out a big performance.


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    #143
    siblers
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    Gurney was very good, he's finishing was superb and punished MVG like Wright did. Of course Mardle and Part were too busy talking about MVG to give Gurney any bit of credit

    I'd actually fancy Wright to go on and win it out


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    #144
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Someone could have told the greatest talent darts has ever seen that he was allowed practise during lock down, that was shocking


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    #145
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    and some people claimed MVG was as good as Taylor........priceless.

    Taylor would not have jobbed 8-2 to bottom of the table gurney, or trounced 8-1 by Wright.


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    #146
    dexter647
    Registered Users Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭dexter647


    Afer 16 days in a row we have to wait till October...Did I hear that right?


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    #147
    Justin Credible Darts
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    dexter647 wrote: »
    Afer 16 days in a row we have to wait till October...Did I hear that right?


    it was not 16 in a row, but know what you mean about the second half of the PL.


    The play off and final were being kept for october and a crowd. That was the rescheduled date, but that could be changed or even brought forward yet again.


    With the covid , there is no certainty the crowd will be allowed in late october.


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    #148
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    and some people claimed MVG was as good as Taylor........priceless.

    Taylor would not have jobbed 8-2 to bottom of the table gurney, or trounced 8-1 by Wright.

    In terms of sheer talent I'd have MVG over Taylor any day, Taylor's achievements will never be matched
    Phil's best 3 dart average is 118 in a televised tournament
    Mvg is 123 which is a record
    Of course that's on any given night and different formats but it still shows the heights MVG can hit
    Don't forget in 2014 Taylor went on a run of 6 defeats in 7 TV appearances including a defeat to a guy with a ranking of below 100


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    #149
    Justin Credible Darts
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    peteeeed wrote: »
    In terms of sheer talent I'd have MVG over Taylor any day, Taylor's achievements will never be matched
    Phil's best 3 dart average is 118 in a televised tournament
    Mvg is 123 which is a record
    Of course that's on any given night and different formats but it still shows the heights MVG can hit
    Don't forget in 2014 Taylor went on a run of 6 defeats in 7 TV appearances including a defeat to a guy with a ranking of below 100


    Seriously ? You are trying to base your argument on MVG having more talent because of one single average ? Do you realize how utterly stupid that sounds and is ?

    You will dismiss 14 PDC world titles, 2 titles in a unified BDO, 16 matchplays, 11 Grand Prix's, 2 nine darters in a game, and countless records that never will be broken, and you use a solitary average to base your argument on......wow,..This is priceless.


    Even though MVG did not hit his peak til Taylor was on the wane, Taylor still has the better head to head between the two, and who can forget when Taylor made the Dutch lump cry live on TV...but no, MVG has a higher average on tv so we must dismiss this.


    Lets play your game then...Go look at Taylors Competition averages, and look what he done, MVG does not even come close, For example the 2009 European Championship
    Taylors averages per round:
    1st round - 111.03
    2nd rd - 110.88
    QF - 118.14
    SF - 109.36
    Final - 109.35.....that being his lowest average.
    Taylor had a comp average of 111.54


    The year before in the same competition, Taylor did this
    1st round - 105.98
    2nd rd - 113.92
    QF - 103.27
    SF - 113.33
    Final - 104.35
    Taylor had a comp average of 108.20 over 66 legs

    Not only does Taylor have the record for the 3 highest competition averages, in fact Taylor has 7 of the top 10 competition averages.

    Using your logic that MVG has the more talent cos he hit the highest average in a game, then Kim Huybrechts who hit the second highest average must be the second best.


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    #150
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    Seriously ? You are trying to base your argument on MVG having more talent because of one single average ? Do you realize how utterly stupid that sounds and is ?

    You will dismiss 14 PDC world titles, 2 titles in a unified BDO, 16 matchplays, 11 Grand Prix's, 2 nine darters in a game, and countless records that never will be broken, and you use a solitary average to base your argument on......wow,..This is priceless.


    Even though MVG did not hit his peak til Taylor was on the wane, Taylor still has the better

    head to head between the two, and who can forget when Taylor made the Dutch lump cry live on TV...but no, MVG has a higher average on tv so we must dismiss this.


    Lets play your game then...Go look at Taylors Competition averages, and look what he done, MVG does not even come close, For example the 2009 European Championship
    Taylors averages per round:
    1st round - 111.03
    2nd rd - 110.88
    QF - 118.14
    SF - 109.36
    Final - 109.35.....that being his lowest average.
    Taylor had a comp average of 111.54


    The year before in the same competition, Taylor did this
    1st round - 105.98
    2nd rd - 113.92
    QF - 103.27
    SF - 113.33
    Final - 104.35
    Taylor had a comp average of 108.20 over 66 legs

    Not only does Taylor have the record for the 3 highest competition averages, in fact Taylor has 7 of the top 10 competition averages.

    Using your logic that MVG has the more talent cos he hit the highest average in a game, then Kim Huybrechts who hit the second highest average must be the second best.

    Of course not, I'm saying that MVG in terms of talent is the greatest, Taylor is the most successful and always will be, I just quoted their record averages as an example of MVG 's best game being 5 points better than phils best ever average

    Taylor took the sport way way higher than it had ever been, MVG has taken it higher

    I'll play your game who can forget Taylor resorting to trying to put MVG off while he was throwing by trying to cheerlead the crowd ( the Icelandic clap was embarrassing) while mvg threw at blackpool in 2016 and looked a drunken mess
    I'm not disputing Taylor is the greatest in terms of titles, it's darts throwing talent I'm talking about


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    #151
    Justin Credible Darts
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    And MVG never played mind games ?

    I have posted facts to back why I am convinced Taylor was supremely better.
    I would not even have MVG in the top 2 as I would have Bristow ahead of him as well.Taylor has more titles, more silverware, more total majors, higher comp averages, more longevity etc.

    so what are you basing this claim that MVG is the better talent on ?
    , do you have anything other that just an opinion. ?


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