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Covid 21

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Well I've been telling people for months that despite the considerable number of vaxxes in development, it will be the Gates funded RNA ones that are 'approved' and released to the public.

    Why? (with proper details and evidence). Please explain your conspiracy on this and don't dodge questions, thanks

    Covid is quite serious, how are you not one of these people spreading disinformation and online conspiracies about Covid?
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/coronavirus-anti-vaxxers-seek-to-discredit-pfizers-vaccine
    Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca are his

    Pfizer was funded by Germany. Moderna by the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    End-game is everyone signed up to annual vaxxes for a virus which has a 0.03% mortality rate for most of us. Also included is Digital IDs, health passports, and eventually, some sort of chipped decide which will contain all of the above + digital wallet etc. Cash to be phased out. The digital IDs and health passports are already being announced. See Health Passport Ireland and on a larger scale, Gates' ID2020 (you'll see Rockerfeller Foundation listed on their website as partners).
    • People have been increasingly moving from physical cash to digital cash for a decade, it's not a conspiracy
    • Digital IDs are a proposal. I have digital ID. There is no conspiracy about this.
    • Health passports are a proposal to help business/employers/etc identify if someone is walking into their business/office/etc with e.g. Covid. Not a conspiracy
    • The Rockerfeller foundation is a philanthropic organisation

    You are just lazily gluing a bunch of stuff and conspiracy tropes together and trying to imply something nefarious is going on without ever properly detailing it


  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭harrylittle


    King Mob wrote: »
    But that doesn't make sense.

    Why then would they be unleashing a second stronger virus?

    Yeah its a bit of a dilemma for the NWO ...these guys like to travel world wide on their multi million pound yachts and private jets ... the last thing they would want is to catch one of their deadly viruses.

    What if they could create a substance in a lab with the similar effects of a deadly covid but not be a virus at all just a chemical concoction and thus cannot be transmissible from person to person or airborne.

    The question is how would they get that substance into billions of people world wide if its not transmissible ?


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Pfizer was funded by Germany. Moderna by the US.

    Please research before posting. Gates Foundation funds Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, and AstraZeneca.
    https://endpts.com/biontech-partners-with-bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-scoring-55m-equity-investment-novartis-sells-china-unit/

    Add CureVac to the list as well. Basically, any of the new RNA vaxxes, he's in on.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/17/investing/curevac-vaccine-stock/index.html
    Dohnjoe wrote: »

    My man, you just linked an "anti-vaxxers" article from a publication that is funded by the very person trying to sell you the vax. Yes, Gates Foundation funds The Guardian :rolleyes:
    https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/bill-gates-funded-guardian-development-site-goes-live/

    I told the both of you before: stop listening to only mainstream news. It's all bought off by the same people. Hence stuff like this happens to you. Here's some further education on the issue:
    https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/08/24/revealed-how-bill-gates-buys-mainstream-outlets-journalists-and-fact-checkers/

    To answer your other question as to why the Gates Foundation vaxxes were always the ones going to be approved and released in Europe, it's the same answer:
    He's a primary funder of the UN, WHO, and various EU organisations. Who's vaccine did you think they were going to approve and distribute? It's the same in the United States. Same money everywhere. Follow the money, always.

    Anyway, look, both of you are clearly all over the place and not well researched on any of this. Between you two, and the girl above ("the elite just want a nice house and holiday" :pac:), I'm wasting my time. I'm not here to convince you of anything, anyway.

    All I will say is when the time comes for these annual vaccination programs: DO NOT CONSENT. You don't need experimental, never before used in humans, RNA vaccines, 2-4 times per year for a virus that has less than 0.1% chance of killing most people. Don't be so silly.
    Even if you happen to be on the dole or whatever, don't let them threaten or coerce you with that, either. Agreeing will only help drag everyone else in with you.

    Good luck, guys.


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    • The Rockerfeller foundation is a philanthropic organisation

    Yes, after the Ludlow Massacres back in 1914, Rockefeller hired Ivy Lee to restore his image. Lee told him to be seen in photos giving money to the poor as much as possible, and eventually people would begin to like and trust him again. Guess what? It worked.

    Gates followed the exact same path after the anti-trust Microsoft lawsuit with the US government. Disappeared for a while and came back with his "philanthropic" foundation.

    They fell for it last century as they had no alternative media. You have no excuse whatsoever in 2020 to be falling for the same crap. Like I told you above, do some research and stop believing what they put in front of you. Gullible is not the word.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Please research before posting. Gates Foundation funds Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna,

    They contribute. The German government provided the bulk of the funds for Pfizer and the US gov for Moderna. The distinction is very important. Also, philantrophists fund projects, it's what they do, that is not evidence of "wrong-doing" or "conspiracy".
    My man, you just linked an "anti-vaxxers" article from a publication that is funded by the very person trying to sell you the vax.

    It's an article that warns of Covid conspiracy theories, which, coincidentally, you are attempting to spread here. The Guardian newspaper is operated by a trust and is (now) funded by reader subscriptions

    "The Guardian's ownership by the Scott Trust is probably a factor in its being the only British national daily to conduct (since 2003) an annual social, ethical and environmental audit in which it examines, under the scrutiny of an independent external auditor, its own behaviour as a company.[122] It is also the only British national daily newspaper to employ an internal ombudsman (called the "readers' editor") to handle complaints and corrections."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian#Ownership_and_finances
    I told the both of you before: stop listening to only mainstream news.

    Real information from the media often contradicts far-fetched conspiracy narratives and disinformation, so those that spread them try to denigrate the media as a whole.
    To answer your other question as to why the Gates Foundation vaxxes were always the ones going to be approved and released in Europe, it's the same answer:
    He's a primary funder of the UN, WHO, and various EU organisations. Who's vaccine did you think they were going to approve and distribute? It's the same in the United States. Same money everywhere. Follow the money, always.

    Vague innuendo and tenuous links. Explain your theory properly and don't evade questions on it.
    Good luck, guys.

    Bailing already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Yes, after the Ludlow Massacres back in 1914, Rockefeller hired Ivy Lee to restore his image. Lee told him to be seen in photos giving money to the poor as much as possible, and eventually people would begin to like and trust him again. Guess what? It worked.

    Gates followed the exact same path after the anti-trust Microsoft lawsuit with the US government. Disappeared for a while and came back with his "philanthropic" foundation.

    They fell for it last century as they had no alternative media. You have no excuse whatsoever in 2020 to be falling for the same crap. Like I told you above, do some research and stop believing what they put in front of you. Gullible is not the word.


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    Zerohedge is a conspiracy blog run by a Polish guy with the pseudonom "Tyler Durden".

    There are many baseless antisemitic conspiracies about the Rockerfeller foundation. You didn't address any of the other points.


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    King Mob wrote: »
    Did you also claim all this stuff 10 years ago when swine flu was doing the conspiracy rounds? I suspect you believed those conspiracy theories also.

    I was too young back then to pay attention to anything, so no. I'm aware they did try the whole "sell the world a vaccine they don't need" thing, though. They didn't succeed globally, but are still paying damages to the ones that did take it:
    http://hpv-vaccine-info.org/pandemrix-scandal-ridden-vaccine-work/

    Channel 4 ran a video on this scandal as well. You have no excuse to fall for the same tactic again.

    Read the posts to DohnJoe. Equally applies to you. I fear you're an even more lost cause, though ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I was too young back then to pay attention to anything, so no.


    You have no excuse to fall for the same tactic again.

    And yet, you are peddling the same silly conspiracy theories that where being peddled back then.

    So in 10 years and none of your predictions have panned out and there's a different pandemic or similar crisis, will you be claiming the same stuff again?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yeah its a bit of a dilemma for the NWO
    So they aren't going to release another stronger virus...
    I wish you'd make up your mind.
    The question is how would they get that substance into billions of people world wide if its not transmissible ?
    Chemtrails?


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    King Mob wrote: »
    And yet, you are peddling the same silly conspiracy theories that where being peddled back then.

    So in 10 years and none of your predictions have panned out and there's a different pandemic or similar crisis, will you be claiming the same stuff again?

    They're already starting to pan out. Gates RNA vaxxes incoming. Vax passports and restrictions if non-compliance. Micheal Martin confirmed in Sunday Independent (on orders from EU, obviously).

    Will you be getting the annual vaccines, King Mob?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    They're already starting to pan out. Gates RNA vaxxes incoming. Vax passports and restrictions if non-compliance. Micheal Martin confirmed in Sunday Independent (on orders from EU, obviously).
    Yea, they said that about swine flu too.
    Will you be saying that next time around or will you ahve realised how ridiculous all this stuff is when you've grown up a bit more?
    Will you be getting the annual vaccines, King Mob?
    Yea. Why wouldn't I get them when recommended to?

    Cause some anonymous person on the internet who thinks it's a big giant global conspiracy by evil secret satanists who are planning to put microchips in us told me not to?

    That's a very silly reason to ignore medical advice.


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    King Mob wrote: »
    Yea. Why wouldn't I get them when recommended to?

    Cause some anonymous person on the internet who thinks it's a big giant global conspiracy by evil secret satanists who are planning to put microchips in us told me not to?

    That's a very silly reason to ignore medical advice.

    You're honestly going to sign up for 2-4 experimental RNA vaxxes per year, because big pharma/government (nothing to do with money) told you to? For a virus that has a 0.1% (being generous) chance of killing you?
    Well, I have a bridge to sell you... :pac:

    You do realize this "technology" modifies your DNA, right? Moderna was formed specifically on this idea. Hint is in the name: MOD(ify)RNA. They've also never had a medicine or vax used in humans.

    There's many many people and Doctors advising caution with all of this. But you know that already, even if you don't look at anything outside of mainstream news.

    Anyway, from one anonymous internet poster to another, I hope it works out for you. Genuinely. Godspeed, King Mob; long live The King :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    You're honestly going to sign up for 2-4 experimental RNA vaxxes per year, because big pharma/government (nothing to do with money) told you to? For a virus that has a 0.1% (being generous) chance of killing you?
    Well, I have a bridge to sell you... :pac:
    I don't believe you because you subscribe to many odd and illogical conspiracy theories, so I don't think you are providing good or reliable information.
    And considering your next claim is also a lie...
    You do realize this "technology" modifies your DNA, right? Moderna was formed specifically on this idea. Hint is in the name: MOD(ify)RNA. They've also never had a medicine or vax used in humans.
    This is a lie.
    Also, RNA is not DNA.
    This is another good reason to not believe your medical claims.
    There's many many people and Doctors advising caution with all of this. But you know that already, even if you don't look at anything outside of mainstream news.
    But there's many more doctors who don't subscribe to your silly satanic conspiracy idea.
    I think I'll trust them, thanks.


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    King Mob wrote: »
    I don't believe you because you subscribe to many odd and illogical conspiracy theories, so I don't think you are providing good or reliable information.
    And considering your next claim is also a lie...

    You lads really don't do any research. Which is especially shocking considering you're willing to get this. Scientist behind Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine says he "couldn’t rule out that Covid-19 jabs would need to be “topped up” annually". That'll be two jabs for you per year, so, Mob. So I was correct. I'll go a step further and say it'll eventually become every six months. Its been mentioned elsewhere as a possibility. Nothing to do with doubling profits, of course ;)
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/scientist-behind-biontech-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-says-it-can-end-pandemic?fbclid=IwAR1WjTaFyc1BlqRdXbIQ4niK0goxvLhQ_aPC48udR83TouE3vol6cQ-oRts

    Forget the depopulation theory for a second. At the very least, you're signing up for a new experimental vaccine, annually. No Doctors can definitively tell you it's safe long term as it's never been used before in humans. They told people ten years ago Pandremix was safe, too. Why are they correct this time? :pac:

    Re: depopulation; apart from Bill talking about depopulation a few times, I'm just gonna leave this video here for you. Don't start crying about the source. It's all fact. Whether you think there's anything in it or not, is another story. Probably nothing, knowing you :pac:
    Watch before removed, anyway:

    https://youtu.be/T9Mtzw6S3yM

    You're a brave man, Mob ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    You lads really don't do any research.

    You haven't answered my questions and looking at conspiracy sites is not "research".

    Please specify what your conspiracy is and stop trying to mask it by being vague and obtuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    You lads really don't do any research. Which is especially shocking considering you're willing to get this.
    You're a brave man, Mob ;)
    Again, you're claiming all this stuff, but it's not at all convincing.

    You believe in a very childish and silly conspiracy theory involving a global satanist New world order who are thing to depopulate the world.

    You aren't basing your beliefs on good information or rational thinking.

    On top of that, you've told a bald faced lie.

    I don't believe anything you're saying. No rational person would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    You lads really don't do any research. Which is especially shocking considering you're willing to get this. Scientist behind Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine says he "couldn’t rule out that Covid-19 jabs would need to be “topped up” annually". That'll be two jabs for you per year, so, Mob. So I was correct. I'll go a step further and say it'll eventually become every six months. Its been mentioned elsewhere as a possibility. Nothing to do with doubling profits, of course ;)
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/scientist-behind-biontech-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-says-it-can-end-pandemic?fbclid=IwAR1WjTaFyc1BlqRdXbIQ4niK0goxvLhQ_aPC48udR83TouE3vol6cQ-oRts

    Forget the depopulation theory for a second. At the very least, you're signing up for a new experimental vaccine, annually. No Doctors can definitively tell you it's safe long term as it's never been used before in humans. They told people ten years ago Pandremix was safe, too. Why are they correct this time? :pac:

    Re: depopulation; apart from Bill talking about depopulation a few times, I'm just gonna leave this video here for you. Don't start crying about the source. It's all fact. Whether you think there's anything in it or not, is another story. Probably nothing, knowing you :pac:
    Watch before removed, anyway:

    https://youtu.be/T9Mtzw6S3yM

    You're a brave man, Mob ;)

    "BILL GATES, NAZI TIES, THEY WANT YOU DEAD!"

    lol

    The links to Gates and the Nazis are the most cobbled together tenuous links you'll ever see. Like something from a parody.

    IBM built tech for the Nazis. Bill Gates partnered with IBM 40 years later so...... Bill Gates is continuing the Nazis work. Bill Gates is involved in a new holocaust. Thats the gist of the video.

    Standard brainwashed stuff. "Must watch", Please share" and now I see "Watch before removed". Its been up since April! :eek:

    All these grifters seem to use the same music in their videos aswell. Fast paced stuff and lots of quick shabby editing.


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    King Mob wrote: »
    Again, you're claiming all this stuff, but it's not at all convincing.

    You believe in a very childish and silly conspiracy theory involving a global satanist New world order who are thing to depopulate the world.

    You aren't basing your beliefs on good information or rational thinking.

    On top of that, you've told a bald faced lie.

    I don't believe anything you're saying. No rational person would.

    I literally just linked you to an interview with the creator of your vaccine saying it's likely going to be annual, lol. Its already been confirmed double dose. If you don't believe him, I can't help you. Is he lying, too? :pac:

    You're a strange one, man. Just keep repeating the same denial stuff over and over, regardless of what's put in front of you. I just proved your friend wrong on a few things and he's gone quiet. Whereas you just keep going. Not my problem.

    Anyway, you go get your vaccines. Wouldn't want you catching that deadly 'rona :pac:

    We'll leave it there; best of luck.


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    I reckon if there does end up being a covid 21 that could be what starts king mob to start questioning the main stream media narrative..

    Come back to this forum in 12 months time and he'll be starting threads going

    '911 was in fact an inside job lads..do your own research'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I literally just linked you to an interview with the creator of your vaccine saying it's likely going to be annual, lol. Its already been confirmed double dose. If you don't believe him, I can't help you. Is he lying, too? :pac:
    Again, you are claiming things, but you can't explain them with any depth.
    You are claiming these things in defense of a global depopulation conspiracy theory you've found on the internet.

    And the fact remains that you lied and claimed the vaccine would alter your DNA.
    That was a baldfaced lie.

    You have zero credibility.
    You're a strange one, man. Just keep repeating the same denial stuff over and over, regardless of what's put in front of you. I just proved your friend wrong on a few things and he's gone quiet. Whereas you just keep going. Not my problem.

    Anyway, you go get your vaccines. Wouldn't want you catching that deadly 'rona :pac:

    We'll leave it there; best of luck.
    You asked me if I was going to get the vaccine.
    I'm just pointing out why I'm not concerned.

    I don't believe random conspiracy nonsense and lies told to me by random people on the internet.
    I don't understand why you expect people to do this and reject advice given to them by their doctors.
    it's very bizzare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I reckon if there does end up being a covid 21 that could be what starts king mob to start questioning the main stream media narrative..

    Come back to this forum in 12 months time and he'll be starting threads going

    '911 was in fact an inside job lads..do your own research'
    :confused:
    Why would it?

    Most likely it will be you conspiracy guys back again claiming the same stuff and how the new world order is still just around the corner. All while forgetting the failed predictions made in this thread.
    And in the threads about swine flu...
    And the ones about SARS...
    And the ones about bird flu...


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    I reckon if there does end up being a covid 21 that could be what starts king mob to start questioning the main stream media narrative..

    Come back to this forum in 12 months time and he'll be starting threads going

    '911 was in fact an inside job lads..do your own research'

    Hahaha. I honestly still think he'd be like "this is all just silly nonsense. Covid-21 came along naturally. We need to get chipped 'cause the government and RTE said it's best for safety. Keep wearing your mask as well 'cause Bill Gates said so. Even though there's yet a single picture of him wearing one himself. No conspiracy here" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    King Mob wrote: »
    :confused:
    Why would it?

    Most likely it will be you conspiracy guys back again claiming the same stuff and how the new world order is still just around the corner. All while forgetting the failed predictions made in this thread.
    And in the threads about swine flu...
    And the ones about SARS...
    And the ones about bird flu...

    Remember, we've been waiting for the NWO to take over for 100 years. The Freemasons for 200 years. And the Deep State for 400 years.

    In early 2020, the military were supposed to have rolled into all major cities and imposed martial law by now. Remember that? Anyone who thought otherwise was a naive sheep or whatever.

    Oh that was just a practice run. The real one is coming soon....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    The Nal wrote: »
    Remember, we've been waiting for the NWO to take over for 100 years. The Freemasons for 200 years. And the Deep State for 400 years.

    In early 2020, the military were supposed to have rolled into all major cities and imposed martial law by now. Remember that? Anyone who thought otherwise was a naive sheep or whatever.

    Oh that was just a practice run. The real one is coming soon....
    But nah, it will definitely will be this Covid 21 which is apparently coming next year.
    This pandemic was just the final test run.

    Definitely just around the corner this time. For real.

    Which is why I'm sure the lads on the thread are stocking up to live in their bunkers or at least join the underground rebellion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Covid-21 came along naturally.

    You have never properly explained what this is. You are constantly avoiding questions on the subject.
    We need to get chipped 'cause the government and RTE said it's best for safety.

    Who will be microchipped, when and how? Be specific.

    We've been hearing these conspiracies for over a decade. Why are your suggestions as deliberately vague and nonsensical as those do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You have never properly explained what this is. You are constantly avoiding questions on the subject.



    Who will be microchipped, when and how? Be specific.

    We've been hearing these conspiracies for over a decade. Why are your suggestions as deliberately vague and nonsensical as those do you think?
    They are being vague on purpose.
    It's also why they won't give solid dates or time frames for anything.

    If you keep things vague and nebulous you can keep moving the goalposts and you don't have to face the possibility that you were wrong.


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    The Nal wrote: »
    Remember, we've been waiting for the NWO to take over for 100 years. The Freemasons for 200 years. And the Deep State for 400 years.

    In early 2020, the military were supposed to have rolled into all major cities and imposed martial law by now. Remember that? Anyone who thought otherwise was a naive sheep or whatever.

    Oh that was just a practice run. The real one is coming soon....

    You're on level 5 Lockdown, not allowed 5km outside your town, wearing a mask around the place, keeping physical distance from other people, and now your government is telling you who can come to your house at Christmas :rolleyes: All for that deadly 'rona that might give you a case of the sniffles :pac:

    So, steady on for now; let's see how this thing continues to unfold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    You're on level 5 Lockdown, not allowed 5km outside your town, wearing a mask around the place, keeping physical distance from other people, and now your government is telling you who can come to your house at Christmas :rolleyes: All for that deadly 'rona that might give you a case of the sniffles :pac:

    So, steady on for now; let's see how this thing continues to unfold.
    So in conspiracy world, is the idea that they aren't going to lift these restrictions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    King Mob wrote: »
    So in conspiracy world, is the idea that they aren't going to lift these restrictions?

    They were never lifting them, then they did in the summer (for reasons unknown)


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    King Mob wrote: »
    So in conspiracy world, is the idea that they aren't going to lift these restrictions?

    "It'll be a few weeks to flatten the curve" they said...

    How's the temperature, frogs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    You're on level 5 Lockdown, not allowed 5km outside your town, wearing a mask around the place, keeping physical distance from other people, and now your government is telling you who can come to your house at Christmas :rolleyes: All for that deadly 'rona that might give you a case of the sniffles :pac:

    It's not a case of the "sniffles", it's a global pandemic, it's threatening to overwhelm hospital services. The above measures are needed to mitigate that from happening. Governments can borrow money to cover the economic shortfall, but people dying because hospitals are full is completely unacceptable

    In order to curb the recent high rises, we have to enforce mask-wearing, we have to use restrictions to stop the virus spreading - and these have to be ramped up as the virus cases rise. They are (as we've seen) relaxed when the virus starts to drop. Unfortunately relaxing the rules has meant (many) places have experienced surges (2nd wave, 3rd wave)

    Is there any part of that you don't understand? Because seriously it's coming across like you don't grasp it at all.


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's not a case of the "sniffles", it's a global pandemic, it's threatening to overwhelm hospital services. The above measures are needed to mitigate that from happening. Governments can borrow money to cover the economic shortfall, but people dying because hospitals are full is completely unacceptable

    In order to curb the recent high rises, we have to enforce mask-wearing, we have to use restrictions to stop the virus spreading - and these have to be ramped up as the virus cases rise. They are (as we've seen) relaxed when the virus starts to drop. Unfortunately relaxing the rules has meant (many) places have experienced surges (2nd wave, 3rd wave)

    Is there any part of that you don't understand? Because seriously it's coming across like you don't grasp it at all.

    Of course I understand it. I don’t accept it, though. It’s already been proven in the States that Doctors were incentivised to record deaths as Covid, whether it was the actual cause of death or not. I’ve heard many similar stories from elsewhere, too. On top of this, the testing is notoriously unreliable. They can create whatever numbers they like. The death numbers are low, and even then, they’re inflated. Kneecapping the economy and all of the other restrictive measures are not justified and will cause more lives in the long run than Covid-19 ever will. The average age of people dying from Covid is the average age of people dying anyway. People’s treatments and hospital visits were postponed/delayed/cancelled for this crap. People with far more dangerous diseases like cancer.

    The whole thing stinks, and a lot of people are wise to it now. Hence half of the country is ignoring the new restrictions. They realise this. I’ve talked to so many people in person who thankfully realise they’re not being told the full truth about what’s going on. The next 6-12 months is where it’ll get really interesting.

    Anyone happy to sit on the dole indefinitely during all of this is a loser. Same for people calling for more restrictions or encouraging their prolonging. They, and the country, will pay a price for it down the line. There’s no such thing as free money, lads.


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    it's a global pandemic

    Again regurgitating what governments and mainstream media tell you. Same thing with the climate change "emergency" nonsense. The UN etc have been "warning" us about it since last century. Guess what? Everything is still fine. Do you ever walk outside your house and think "damn, that climate change; it can't go on like this". No, you don't. It's just an excuse to tax us more and impose further restrictions. The people who push these decisions down are the very people who leave massive carbon footprints themselves. It's a political tool, just like Covid.

    Stop being so naive and believing everything they tell you without question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Of course I understand it. I don’t accept it, though.

    You clearly can't grasp it if you are spouting these ridiculous conspiracy theories and disinformation and making comments like the below.
    People with far more dangerous diseases like cancer.

    Are going to die when hospitals are full. We've already had European capitals experiencing near full capacity. You seem to be completely detached from reality and sourcing your "news" from quack sites considering all the nonsense you keep injecting in this thread.

    I'll ask again, what is your conspiracy? detail it properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Again regurgitating what governments and mainstream media tell you. Same thing with the climate change "emergency" nonsense.

    And of course you're a climate change denier.

    There's two types of conspiracy theorists, those who actually believe their conspiracy theories and those who spout conspiracies they actually know are false, but do it anyway, requiring a stunning level of personal dishonesty.

    The fact that you keep acting obtuse and evasive and not detailing your conspiracy puts you firmly in the latter camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    regurgitating what governments and mainstream media tell you
    Stop being so naive and believing everything they tell you without question.
    The whole thing stinks

    Bingo again.


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    And of course you're a climate change denier.

    There's two types of conspiracy theorists, those who actually believe their conspiracy theories and those who spout conspiracies they actually know are false, but do it anyway, requiring a stunning level of personal dishonesty.

    Why would you say I don't believe that climate change is a hoax? Even if it was true, Ireland's impact would be absolutely negligible. Forget about it, DohnJoe; leave the scamming to Al Gore :pac:
    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    The fact that you keep acting obtuse and evasive and not detailing your conspiracy puts you firmly in the latter camp.

    I have already laid this out earlier in the thread. I told you this before; you seem to either suffer from goldfish memory, or just don't/cannot read posts properly. It's not my job to repeat stuff to you every few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I have already laid this out earlier in the thread.

    Nope I haven't come across anything resembling a conspiracy theory, what's the post number or provide the conspiracy

    Don't worry, this isn't our first rodeo, we know all the evasion and deflection techniques :)


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Nope I haven't come across anything resembling a conspiracy theory, what's the post number or provide the conspiracy

    Don't worry, this isn't our first rodeo, we know all the evasion and deflection techniques :)

    It's post 20 of this thread:

    "Theory says mass depopulation is the eventual end-goal. Achieved through sterilisation elements in vaxxes and introduction of various diseases over time. Also utilising the populace for various DNA/RNA experiments over time through aforementioned annual RNA injections (Moderna, Pfizer/BioNTech, AstraZeneca are all funded by Gates Foundation and RNA based).

    Remaining survivors will be fully chipped and tracked, completely subservient to elite overlords/one world government."


    Like I said, goldfish memory or inability to read posts properly :pac:


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    King Mob wrote: »
    So they aren't going to release another stronger virus...
    I wish you'd make up your mind.


    Chemtrails?

    chemtrails wont work ... too random ...can't keep a record of who gets infected .. an elite on his yacht or in his golf club could get a shower of chemtrails .

    What they would require is to administer that substance into a person on an individual basis ... have a system in place to record who, when and how frequent that person gets that substance ...ideally get governments to go along with that system... get health boards, education establishment all to back that system ... get the local media to drive fear into the public so that the public would line up to take that substance to make them feel safe again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    chemtrails wont work ... too random ...can't keep a record of who gets infected .. an elite on his yacht or in his golf club could get a shower of chemtrails ..
    Chemtrails won't work cause there's no such thing as chemtrails.

    I assumed you understood this, but it seems my joke was lost on you.
    What they would require is to administer that substance into a person on an individual basis ... have a system in place to record who, when and how frequent that person gets that substance ...ideally get governments to go along with that system... get health boards, education establishment all to back that system ... get the local media to drive fear into the public so that the public would line up to take that substance to make them feel safe again.
    Ah of course vaccines.
    Will this be the same time we're getting our microchips and marks of the beast?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's post 20 of this thread:

    "Theory says mass depopulation is the eventual end-goal. Achieved through sterilisation elements in vaxxes and introduction of various diseases over time. Also utilising the populace for various DNA/RNA experiments over time through aforementioned annual RNA injections (Moderna, Pfizer/BioNTech, AstraZeneca are all funded by Gates Foundation and RNA based).

    Remaining survivors will be fully chipped and tracked, completely subservient to elite overlords/one world government."


    Right.

    "Theory says"..

    Is this your personal conspiracy theory? if not, who does it belong to and what's the source?


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Right.

    "Theory says"..

    Is this your personal conspiracy theory? if not, who does it belong to and what's the source?

    "Right" indeed; conspiracy theory was written in plain sight and you couldn't see it. You'll need to be more switched on in future if you expect people to engage with you.

    What does it matter who the "source" is. There's many people theorizing along those lines. I've seen it in various videos and comment sections across different platforms. Based on comments/likes/upvotes, subscribers to it would be into the thousands / hundreds of thousands.

    I have a question for you: what is Joe Biden referring to by "New World Order"? He's said it a couple of times in different speeches. Here's one. Any ideas?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Nycweatherrepor/status/1304520188969316357


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    "Right" indeed; conspiracy theory was written in plain sight and you couldn't see it. You'll need to be more switched on in future if you expect people to engage with you.

    That's not a theory, it's a vapid thought, but let's go with it..
    What does it matter who the "source" is.

    People make up their own theories here all the time. They make up history, they make up current affairs. A lot of stuff is simply made up in someone's imagination on this forum.

    So did you make this one up yourself or is there a source for it?

    If you are acting evasive about your theory, you know something is wrong with it. Remember, you are claiming this is fact, and if it's a fact, be straightforward about it.

    Here's a fun side question for you, is Dolly Parton a part of this conspiracy? she helped fund one of the vaccines. Don't invent an answer. Facts only.
    I have a question for you: what is Joe Biden referring to by "New World Order"? He's said it a couple of times in different speeches. Here's one. Any ideas?

    It's a phrase. "New world order" literally means that. For example, prior to WW2, countries like Germany and France were "superpowers", they had a higher balance of power. After WW2, countries like US and Russia became superpowers. It's been used to reference global sea-changes in everything from balances of power, to the environment, to e.g. the current health crisis.

    People low on critical thinking and high on paranoia take it to mean something else and their imaginations run wild.


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    He's a disturbing character. Like a Bond villian :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I have a question for you: what is Joe Biden referring to by "New World Order"? He's said it a couple of times in different speeches. Here's one. Any ideas?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Nycweatherrepor/status/1304520188969316357
    Lol, this trope is just so weird.

    Why in conspiracy world do these guys keep giving you clues?

    What evidence do you guys have for the giant global satanic conspiracy that isn't just based on what you believe these guys are telling you directly?


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    That's not a theory, it's a vapid thought, but let's go with it..



    People make up their own theories here all the time. They make up history, they make up current affairs. A lot of stuff is simply made up in someone's imagination on this forum.

    So did you make this one up yourself or is there a source for it?

    If you are acting evasive about your theory, you know something is wrong with it. Remember, you are claiming this is fact, and if it's a fact, be straightforward about it.

    Here's a fun side question for you, is Dolly Parton a part of this conspiracy? she helped fund one of the vaccines. Don't invent an answer. Facts only.

    It's a phrase. "New world order" literally means that. For example, prior to WW2, countries like Germany and France were "superpowers", they had a higher balance of power. After WW2, countries like US and Russia became superpowers. It's been used to reference global sea-changes in everything from balances of power, to the environment, to e.g. the current health crisis.

    You're now trying to say the words 'fact' and 'theory' are the same thing. They're not. Very dishonest of you. If you genuinely thought they were the same thing, I suggest you google and learn the difference. I'm not going to explain them for you here.

    Dolly Parton just invested some capital. She has no connection to the labs, or any idea re: what's going into the vaccinations over the long-term. You know that. Your unnecessary, annual vaccinations will bring in the vax passport, which will then be combined with your digital ID and wallet, and eventually for 'safety purposes' these will all be combined into a small, implanted chip in your hand. You two will no doubt accept this as it will be the 'advice' your government and 'experts' give you :pac:

    As for King Mob's question, foreshadowing, symbolising, predictive programming etc are regularly utilised by the power's that be. Hollywood and the music industry are often used a vehicle for this. Look at this disgusting advert for a clothing line from Celine Dion. Obviously not her own idea.
    Overwhelmingly negative reaction online from most people, which is reassuring. No doubt you two will think nothing of it, though. Can't expect Dohnjoe to see symbolism when he can't even read posts properly on a message board :pac:




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    73669bfce0d2ed57c3852de3ca66e852.jpg

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    ... "Ho", skulls, and "New Order" on children's clothing. Yeah, nothing strange or unusual going on here :rolleyes:

    Anyway, no point continuing conversation with either of you on this. It's clear you are both staunch mainstream narrative supporters and never question anything outside of that. Which is fine, each to their own. My goal was to get people who are actually open to alternative viewpoints talking about this. Already succeeded with that over on the main forums. Tis a vacuum in here anyway.

    Have a good day, men. Specsavers still open as it's deemed an essential service :pac:


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    What they would require is to administer that substance into a person on an individual basis ... have a system in place to record who, when and how frequent that person gets that substance ...ideally get governments to go along with that system... get health boards, education establishment all to back that system ... get the local media to drive fear into the public so that the public would line up to take that substance to make them feel safe again.

    DohnJoe and King Mob will line up repeatedly to stay 'safe'. With all those bodies piling up on the streets currently, they'll be so relieved to get their first shot :pac:


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