Wild Mountain Thyme - Jamie Dornan & Emily Blunt

Mr Crispy · 11-11-2020 6:18pm

ixoy wrote: »

It's made the frontpage of BBC News now..

Ha, from that article;

And the The National Leprechaun Museum of Ireland tweeted: "Even we think this is a bit much #WildMountainThyme".

pixelburp · 11-11-2020 6:21pm

ixoy wrote: »

It's made the frontpage of BBC News now..

"Is an Irish accent the hardest to master?" Betteridges rule of headlines in action there. That's a charitable interpretation of the issue; more accurate to say studios / actors are too cheap to hire good dialect coaches if they insist upon non-nationals in their cast... the accent doesn't even need to be perfect, just passable.

BloodyBill · 11-11-2020 6:28pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sometimes I think we don't realise how the accents in the irish countryside really sound. Take for example these boys in the Dail , whom if anyone from outside the island was watching might think some these guys slept in the fields.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-pDC2tJA4c

Im pretty sure I've heard Irish people living in Ireland with far worse accents then those in that trailer!

No one outside of Dublin wants to hear a Dub accent especially Americans who have no concept of it whatsoever. So the North Munster type accent is what the Americans most associate with Ireland. These accents they use are kinda Midlands but without the flatness and kinda somewhere south..nobody knows where...

BloodyBill · 11-11-2020 6:34pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Yep, I haven't bothered to watch any of his more adventurous ones but I can imagine how British he would be with the natives along the Amazon.

Reeves is a sickener. An awful leftie and every show he has is somehow depicted as Dangerous..hes no Michael Palin. Id prefer yer man Levison Wood..

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 11-11-2020 6:57pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

Reeves is a sickener. An awful leftie and every show he has is somehow depicted as Dangerous..hes no Michael Palin. Id prefer yer man Levison Wood..

Not sure leftie is the insult you think it is

mikhail · 11-11-2020 7:14pm

It doesn't have to be an insult. Just not his cup of tea, which is fine: it takes all types...

Goldengirl · 11-11-2020 7:22pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

TBF Dornan is a good guest, takes the pi$$ out of himself

Yes and he has a lot of experience of having to do that lately

I think Graham will get a great kick out of this !
Think the guy that wrote this and the director ( one and the same ?) thinks Father Ted is a documentary ...sure its grand , lads , easy now, it's only a fillum

I am looking forward to sitting down with a glass of wine and ...watching Jamie ..enjoying a good laugh at how Americans see us .

Goldengirl · 11-11-2020 7:25pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

Reeves is a sickener. An awful leftie and every show he has is somehow depicted as Dangerous..hes no Michael Palin. Id prefer yer man Levison Wood..

He was talking about fairy forts with a man with a big beard who believes in fairies somewhere wesst !
Now that's dangerous

is_that_so · 11-11-2020 7:29pm

yabadabado wrote: »

Was his accent in Siege of Jadotville not a bit ropey as well?
Its a few years since I've seen it but have a feeling it was.

It wasn't that bad in Jadotville. Pat Quinlan was from Kerry and spoke a bit like that.

Harry Palmr · 11-11-2020 7:34pm

Like likes of Simon Reeves have research teams who go ahead and round up the most ludicrous cliche ridden aspect of wherever he is filming. Worth remembering when you see him somewhere we don't know much or at all.

is_that_so · 11-11-2020 7:35pm

https://twitter.com/davidcochrane/status/1326537349228982273

One eyed Jack · 11-11-2020 7:45pm

Saw this on the Today show earlier, and even Daithí O Sé struggled with it. It’s very much geared towards an “Irish diaspora” in the US audience, same as Normal People and PS I Love You before it... and then some -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edBNaGuRAks

Funsterdelux · 11-11-2020 7:59pm

SusanC10 wrote: »

For some reason, that Trailer made me laugh so much - haven't laughed so much at something since pre-Pandemic !
Looking forward to watching this with a few glasses of Wine.

Im thinking I'd definitely need to be stoned to watch that.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 11-11-2020 8:11pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Saw this on the Today show earlier, and even Daithí O Sé struggled with it. It’s very much geared towards an “Irish diaspora” in the US audience, same as Normal People and PS I Love You before it... and then some -

Don't think I'd put Normal People in the same bracket as PS I Love You. It might not have been to everyone's taste but it's hardly the paddywhackery of something like PS I Love You or Leap Year. And Daisy Edgar Jones' Irish accent was really good too.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 11-11-2020 8:13pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

I am looking forward to sitting down with a glass of wine and ...watching Jamie ..enjoying a good laugh at how Americans see us .

Whoever is in charge of distributing it should get it on demand here ASAP. A captive audience with an appetite for a group watch, they'd make a fortune.

Mad_maxx · 11-11-2020 8:22pm

Hurrache wrote: »

What's Doran thinking for A. that accent of his, B. not telling the cast how stupid their accents are and WTFing the director, and C, basically questioning the whole bloody thing.
Is he getting enough money to quietly laugh to himself and dialling it in. But that doesn't even make sense given how he'll be received as a result anyway.
Maybe with him being from the north he's on an Orange Order mission to undermine and laugh at the Republic.

northern unionists might not have a great ear for southern accents so perhaps Dornan can be forgiven to a degree ?

joe40 · 11-11-2020 8:22pm

I don't think actors should change their accents at all in movies. Just act. The TV show chernobyl was one of the most gripping dramas I have seen, it would have been ruined by everyone trying to do Russian accents.

One eyed Jack · 11-11-2020 8:25pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Don't think I'd put Normal People in the same bracket as PS I Love You. It might not have been to everyone's taste but it's hardly the paddywhackery of something like PS I Love You or Leap Year. And Daisy Edgar Jones' Irish accent was really good too.

Ahh no I meant more the audience it’s produced to appeal to, which isn’t an Irish audience, but rather an Irish American audience. The three main actors involved would know well they’re not even coming close to an approximation of any Irish dialect, but that’s irrelevant for it’s intended audience.

Mad_maxx · 11-11-2020 8:27pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Can't stand that lad. For a relatively young fella he's got an awful smack of the Victorian adventurer about him

anything but , he grew up in modest surroundings and spent time in prison

pixelburp · 11-11-2020 8:28pm

joe40 wrote: »

I don't think actors should change their accents at all in movies. Just act. The TV show chernobyl was one of the most gripping dramas I have seen, it would have been ruined by everyone trying to do Russian accents.

That's a good point: further to that, IIRC they used regional English accents to accentuate relative Russian status and social class, which was a neat move. Assuming it was deliberate of course.

golondrinas1 · 11-11-2020 8:31pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Maybe "Outside Mullingar" will be looked back on someday as Ireland's "Springtime for Hitler"

Excuse Me I liked springtime for Hitler.

CastorTroy · 11-11-2020 8:52pm

Going by the Irish accents I hear in films and tv, I can't even do an Irish accent.

Not a dig at his accent, but I find it funny that in the tv series Warrior, they have an English actor playing an Irish man who's fighting because they're giving Irish jobs to foreigners,

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 11-11-2020 9:35pm

pixelburp wrote: »

That's a good point: further to that, IIRC they used regional English accents to accentuate relative Russian status and social class, which was a neat move. Assuming it was deliberate of course.

All the miners were Scottish, I believe, so I think you might be right.
I agree about not making actors do accents, tbh. Nothing takes me out of a film more than a bad accent. Holidate on Netflix was a recent example of them just letting the lead actor use his natural Australian accent and it didn't make a blind bit of difference to the story, other than me not cringing everytime his accent slipped.

erada · 11-11-2020 10:23pm

gmisk wrote: »

Then she is in new york....and no twin towers so it's set past 2001...

Sounds about right. Land Rover Defender, modern John Deere tractor and cattle with plastic tags so you are correct it's 2001 at the earliest.

JP Liz V1 · 11-11-2020 11:46pm

If it gets a cinema release here I can see it breaking box office records

nearly on 10 pages for thread so far and all over the media

CastorTroy · 12-11-2020 12:33am

4 pages here. But yeah I was thinking the same. Probably more pages than a lot of better films have after release.

siblers · 12-11-2020 8:52am

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Saw this on the Today show earlier, and even Daithí O Sé struggled with it. It’s very much geared towards an “Irish diaspora” in the US audience, same as Normal People and PS I Love You before it... and then some -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edBNaGuRAks

Not sure where the comparison with Normal People is coming from. There was nothing 'diddly i' about that

Homelander · 12-11-2020 10:05am

Now I truly understand how the people of Kazakhstan feel about Borat....

Mickeroo · 12-11-2020 10:12am

joe40 wrote: »

I don't think actors should change their accents at all in movies. Just act. The TV show chernobyl was one of the most gripping dramas I have seen, it would have been ruined by everyone trying to do Russian accents.

Funnily enough, our own Jessie Buckley was the only one who didn't use her own accent in that show I think?

Homelander wrote: »

Now I truly understand how the people of Kazakhstan feel about Borat....

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure most Kazakhs look more Asian than Eastern European too

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 12-11-2020 10:13am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Funnily enough, our own Jessie Buckley was the only one who didn't use her own accent in that show I think?

Barry Keoghan too

breezy1985 · 12-11-2020 10:49am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Funnily enough, our own Jessie Buckley was the only one who didn't use her own accent in that show I think?

There are a fair few Irish actors who I've either never heard their real accents or its been so long I've forgotten. Ide say people got some shock when they head down to Cork expecting everyone to sound like Myers and Murphys TV accents and imagine Chernobyl if Buckley done the whole thing sounding like Daithi O'Se

cosatron · 12-11-2020 10:55am

how they haven't colm meaney cast as the dad is beyond me.

Homelander · 12-11-2020 11:07am

cosatron wrote: »

how they haven't colm meaney cast as the dad is beyond me.

Realistically because they had no interest in Irish accents. Of course they know Irish people don't speak like that. The actors involved also know this.

The whole production plays to stereotypes believed by a shocking amount of American people to be actually reflective of real life in Ireland.

It is annoying, but a lot of countries are a victim of this at various points.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 12-11-2020 11:37am

Homelander wrote: »

Realistically because they had no interest in Irish accents. Of course they know Irish people don't speak like that. The actors involved also know this.

The whole production plays to stereotypes believed by a shocking amount of American people to be actually reflective of real life in Ireland.

It is annoying, but a lot of countries are a victim of this at various points.

It's not even the accents that get me, although they are awful, it's the dialogue. Some of the sentence structures are just weird. Even in a real Irish accent they'd sound ridiculous.
It's actually something I noticed in another trailer this year for a film called Pixie, also featuring bad Irish accents. The main character speaks in a weird way too. I know maybe we have a different way of saying things to the English or the Americans but it's like they're trying to replicate a way of speaking but end up just making it sound like we're just talking s**te.

breezy1985 · 12-11-2020 12:00pm

cosatron wrote: »

how they haven't colm meaney cast as the dad is beyond me.

Cause ide say Meaney would tell them to F off.
Im sure someone will pop up here with some awful film that I've forgotten but I always thought Meaney picked his roles well

ixoy · 12-11-2020 12:03pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Cause ide say Meaney would tell them to F off.
Im sure someone will pop up here with some awful film that I've forgotten but I always thought Meaney picked his roles well

He wasn't in a position to say anything when 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' did that racist Irish episode linked to earlier but, when his star power had increased in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine', he indeed told the writers to F off when they wanted to write an episode featuring a leprechaun. They changed it. Good on him.

breezy1985 · 12-11-2020 12:07pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

It's not even the accents that get me, although they are awful, it's the dialogue. Some of the sentence structures are just weird. Even in a real Irish accent they'd sound ridiculous.
It's actually something I noticed in another trailer this year for a film called Pixie, also featuring bad Irish accents. The main character speaks in a weird way too. I know maybe we have a different way of saying things to the English or the Americans but it's like they're trying to replicate a way of speaking but end up just making it sound like we're just talking s**te.

I agree it's not the accents it's "wen he says dose tings"

breezy1985 · 12-11-2020 12:14pm

ixoy wrote: »

He wasn't in a position to say anything when 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' did that racist Irish episode linked to earlier but, when his star power had increased in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine', he indeed told the writers to F off when they wanted to write an episode featuring a leprechaun. They changed it. Good on him.

I've wrote a bit before on Trek forums to explain to Americans about how O'Brien is a good example of a real foreign character. He likes a pint but isn't a drunk, his best friend is English and there's no controversy or mention of the 800 years and they even do Battle of Britain reenactments together, his wife is Japanese because not all Irish people end up with redhead Coleen's and he gets away with saying feck on TV. He is probably one of the most real Irish characters on US TV because the let the actual Irish man have an input in his character.

The leprechaun story was an episode where peoples dreams come to life and his daughter was supposed to dream of a leprechaun and he said F off so it was changed to Rumpelstiltskin

iguana · 12-11-2020 12:23pm

ixoy wrote: »

He wasn't in a position to say anything when 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' did that racist Irish episode linked to earlier but, when his star power had increased in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine', he indeed told the writers to F off when they wanted to write an episode featuring a leprechaun. They changed it. Good on him.

Pity that Voyager hadn't temporarily needed O'Brien's skills when they departed DS9 and got stuck in the Delta Quadrant. He could have fücked the Fair Haven episodes right off out of the show too.

KungPao · 12-11-2020 12:31pm

Still my favourite, to be sure, is the episode of Murder She Wrote, set here on the Emerald Isle.

A mad mix of made up accents and, ah to be sure now Jessica, paddywhackery turned up to 11.

Quite unbelievable, so it was, to be sure now.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 12-11-2020 12:34pm

dashcam123 wrote: »

Walkens is poor but he pulls off some lines really good like when he says he doesn't see a path to leave the farm and he's asked from where to where and he says "from me to you". Did that perfectly imo.

Yeah, bizarrely the few seconds Walken remembers to do an accent it's actually passable. But the majority of his lines he just sounds like Christopher Walken.

Lollipop95 · 12-11-2020 2:13pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

It's not even the accents that get me, although they are awful, it's the dialogue. Some of the sentence structures are just weird. Even in a real Irish accent they'd sound ridiculous.
It's actually something I noticed in another trailer this year for a film called Pixie, also featuring bad Irish accents. The main character speaks in a weird way too. I know maybe we have a different way of saying things to the English or the Americans but it's like they're trying to replicate a way of speaking but end up just making it sound like we're just talking s**te.

“It was he who kissed me!” Yep - an actual line from the trailer

JP Liz V1 · 12-11-2020 3:11pm

cosatron wrote: »

how they haven't colm meaney cast as the dad is beyond me.

He is busy as Santy for Aldi

BuyersRemorse · 12-11-2020 3:41pm

Der's more to Ireland dan dis.

HBC08 · 12-11-2020 3:46pm

cosatron wrote: »

how they haven't colm meaney cast as the dad is beyond me.

Colm Meaney is above that and anyway he was busy doing Paddy Power ads and the Lidl Santy.

breezy1985 · 12-11-2020 3:48pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

He is busy as Santy for Aldi

There's a great Facebook page about him called Roddy Doyle's Star Where the mix his Rabbitte character with O'Brien

JP Liz V1 · 12-11-2020 3:50pm

ixoy wrote: »

He wasn't in a position to say anything when 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' did that racist Irish episode linked to earlier but, when his star power had increased in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine', he indeed told the writers to F off when they wanted to write an episode featuring a leprechaun. They changed it. Good on him.

Meaney did play a Leprechaun

sky88 · 12-11-2020 6:01pm

as ridiculous as the accents are i prob wouldn't do a better one if i tried another irish accent

Hangdogroad · 12-11-2020 7:10pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Speaking of outside Mullingar, my favourite tweet so far:

"Wait wait wait #WildMountainThyme is based on a play called outside Mullingar? Mountains? The Flipping Sea? Ridey Men? How far outside Mullingar is this place?"

Theres a movie from the early 90s called Hear My Song which has the Cliffs Of Moher in Offaly.

KungPao · 12-11-2020 7:34pm

sky88 wrote: »

as ridiculous as the accents are i prob wouldn't do a better one if i tried another irish accent

That’s true for me too in fairness. I can do Fintan from along the south dart line, and Deco from the north dart line.

A decent tinker accent maybe. But that’s about it.

Wild Mountain Thyme - Jamie Dornan & Emily Blunt

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