Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

Reggie. · 20-09-2019 10:01am

wrangler wrote: »

Lads do it on lorries all the time even without a loader, I was in the west of Ireland last weeek and saw a couple of bodies up on ''stilts'' The guy in france seemed to like making things, his low loader was capable of carrying three tractors

Yeah but the lorries are rigid.

Reggie. · 20-09-2019 10:02am

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Reggie, Are you referring to the A&W trailer in particular here, or to other makes.

What I liked about the A&W trailer, from reading the article was :
"According to A&W Engineering, the unit can be attached and removed with “ease”. When not in use, the livestock body sits on special legs. To mount the unit, the low-loader can simply be reversed in underneath – and then secured using the twist locks.

To remove the unit, the legs must first be re-attached. The bed of the trailer can then drop – to create 150mm of clearance (enabling the trailer to be driven away)".

I just think in theory it works but trying to get the twist locks lined up might be a challenge. Uneven ground and that. You could do it first time or be at it an hour

As far as I'm aware theres no guides for them as they come down

wrangler · 20-09-2019 10:08am

Reggie. wrote: »

Yeah but the lorries are rigid.

What difference in a rigid lorry
I doubt that there's a loader used here, if you dropped the hitch on an ordinary trailer the back would rise enough to put in the stilts, this one is probably on air anyway and you'd do what you'd like with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdfRF0J_WgE

funkey_monkey · 20-09-2019 10:11am

Panch18 wrote: »

For what length?

According to their Facebook page 24ft, 28ft & 32ft. With 30ft made to order.

Jesus, there is some amount of pure rubbish written in the comments on these Facebook sites.

davidk1394 · 20-09-2019 10:39am

Panch18 wrote: »

For what length?

32ft, air brakes

Panch18 · 20-09-2019 6:43pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

32ft, air brakes

Some money for a bale trailer!!

But I’d say we’ll see more and more of this trailers going forward

I see scully trailers in Kerry are doing them now as well

wrangler · 20-09-2019 6:51pm

Panch18 wrote: »

Some money for a bale trailer!!

But I’d say we’ll see more and more of this trailers going forward

I see scully trailers in Kerry are doing them now as well

We;re on the road from meath and Killdare to a couple of beef factories and the trailers that pass here are unreal.
There must be be more than me praying to Brussels for subsidies

Muckit · 20-09-2019 7:25pm

There's a lad over in England that l follow on YouTube that has that trailer setup. He calls it a cattle float. Up on jacks or stilts as u say and just reverse in and drop it down. "Olly's Farm"

That Irish lad in France made his first one of those about 25 ago for the back of a flat bed rigid he had at the time. Used to put up sheds and could use lorry for that and to haul cattle.

Waffletraktor · 20-09-2019 8:28pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

The slurrykat bale trailer with hydraulic sides is 20k + vat

Does hydraulic sides mean the nordic style rails that lift up and down avoiding strapping down or platforms that fold out for leveling spud boxes

visatorro · 20-09-2019 10:22pm

Muckit wrote: »

There's a lad over in England that l follow on YouTube that has that trailer setup. He calls it a cattle float. Up on jacks or stilts as u say and just reverse in and drop it down. "Olly's Farm"

That Irish lad in France made his first one of those about 25 ago for the back of a flat bed rigid he had at the time. Used to put up sheds and could use lorry for that and to haul cattle.

Dunno about the trailer, I'd say it's a bolox to get lined up to put Back on.

I didn't mind watching that fella either until he came out with the gym gear on and I just thought gob****e!

Say my name · 21-09-2019 1:54pm

Right I'm definitely putting the cheque book under lock and key ..this time.
New purchase.. a Ford 6640 and a Kuhn mower.

whelan2 · 21-09-2019 1:57pm

Say my name wrote: »

Right I'm definitely putting the cheque book under lock and key ..this time.
New purchase.. a Ford 6640 and a Kuhn mower.

Dont let glanbia see them photos, they'll say they're paying you too much for your milk and drop the price next month

Say my name · 21-09-2019 2:11pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Dont let glanbia see them photos, they'll say they're paying you too much for your milk and drop the price next month

Ha! I'll tell em I've been saving my communion money for this.

They were bought at a clearance sale of a deceased gentleman farmer in his ninties who had the tidiest farm in the country.
The total of the two lots, a 94 reg tractor
6100hrs and an 08 heavy duty Kuhn mower with not much work done came to with commission and vat on commission €14,500.
The tractor seems perfect to me.
It was a rob as far as I'm concerned.

Reggie. · 21-09-2019 2:23pm

Say my name wrote: »

Ha! I'll tell em I've been saving my communion money for this.

They were bought at a clearance sale of a deceased gentleman farmer in his ninties who had the tidiest farm in the country.
The total of the two lots, a 94 reg tractor
6100hrs and an 08 heavy duty Kuhn mower with not much work done came to with commission and vat on commission €14,500.
The tractor seems perfect to me.
It was a rob as far as I'm concerned.

Well wear

Say my name · 21-09-2019 2:40pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Well wear

Thanks.

White Clover · 21-09-2019 3:17pm

Say my name wrote: »

Right I'm definitely putting the cheque book under lock and key ..this time.
New purchase.. a Ford 6640 and a Kuhn mower.

Well wear. Will she go on the muck spreader?

Say my name · 21-09-2019 4:40pm

White Clover wrote: »

Well wear. Will she go on the muck spreader?

Thanks!
Ah I don't think so.. Maybe but I'd say it might be a bit too much.
I might find out next week. By right she'd want to be reshod on wider rims and new tyres. It'll do all my lighter jobs.

GrasstoMilk · 21-09-2019 4:42pm

Say my name wrote: »

Ha! I'll tell em I've been saving my communion money for this.

They were bought at a clearance sale of a deceased gentleman farmer in his ninties who had the tidiest farm in the country.
The total of the two lots, a 94 reg tractor
6100hrs and an 08 heavy duty Kuhn mower with not much work done came to with commission and vat on commission €14,500.
The tractor seems perfect to me.
It was a rob as far as I'm concerned.

Any idea what the small unpainted tipper trailer made? I was wanting to buy it for drawing dung and sticks etc, we didnt get to the auction in the end.
Well wear!

Say my name · 21-09-2019 4:52pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Any idea what the small unpainted tipper trailer made? I was wanting to buy it for drawing dung and sticks etc, we didnt get to the auction in the end.
Well wear!

No sorry I didn't pay much attention to the rest of the lots bar the ones I was interested in.
There was a big crowd at it. There must have been 300 at it.
Thanks.

White Clover · 21-09-2019 5:55pm

Say my name wrote: »

Thanks!
Ah I don't think so.. Maybe but I'd say it might be a bit too much.
I might find out next week. By right she'd want to be reshod on wider rims and new tyres. It'll do all my lighter jobs.

Twas an Abbey you said I think? A 2090?
They're well done in fairness.

Say my name · 21-09-2019 6:51pm

White Clover wrote: »

Twas an Abbey you said I think? A 2090?
They're well done in fairness.

It's a bit bigger than a 2090.

I'll put pics up here Monday when I get it in the yard.

Reggie. · 21-09-2019 8:45pm

Say my name wrote: »

It's a bit bigger than a 2090.

I'll put pics up here Monday when I get it in the yard.

While it's all shiney

hopeso · 21-09-2019 9:01pm

Say my name wrote: »

Thanks!
Ah I don't think so.. Maybe but I'd say it might be a bit too much.
I might find out next week. By right she'd want to be reshod on wider rims and new tyres. It'll do all my lighter jobs.

Well wear! Sure a Ford like that is an investment, and the mower looks like new... Is she on 30" wheels? They look small in the photo....

Say my name · 21-09-2019 10:41pm

hopeso wrote: »

Well wear! Sure a Ford like that is an investment, and the mower looks like new... Is she on 30" wheels? They look small in the photo....

Thanks.

They are 34"
I'd like to try a 38" and maybe a 18.4 tyre.
The owner had it as a sprayer and hedgecutting tractor.

GrasstoMilk · 22-09-2019 10:15am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fKVy0ZVesug&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3P7k95efbGVWLXO3V9BeALp7LRoS96lSuHo0tKqxXDl83kfTiR0L9TtY4

Big operation here

Markcheese · 22-09-2019 10:27am

On the mini zero grazer, would it be possible to stick a small mower on front of a round baler?
Or if You have front links...
I suppose if youve got to go out and get a tractor with front links and pto, then get the baler and mower, then put floatation tyres on everything the mini zero grazer might start looking cheap...

zetecescort · 22-09-2019 10:33am

Single chop harvesters will soon be back in fashion

cute geoge · 22-09-2019 10:37am

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fKVy0ZVesug&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3P7k95efbGVWLXO3V9BeALp7LRoS96lSuHo0tKqxXDl83kfTiR0L9TtY4

Big operation here

Top drawer operation!!!
There based in Lincolnshire ,would this be mainly a tillage area .Would love to travel around Uk some day .What other parts of UK would be big tillage farms???

funkey_monkey · 22-09-2019 10:41am

Say my name wrote: »

Right I'm definitely putting the cheque book under lock and key ..this time.
New purchase.. a Ford 6640 and a Kuhn mower.

Good luck with it. Tidy bit of kit.

I hope the rear light clusters are visible :pac:

Waffletraktor · 22-09-2019 11:33am

cute geoge wrote: »

Top drawer operation!!!
There based in Lincolnshire ,would this be mainly a tillage area .Would love to travel around Uk some day .What other parts of UK would be big tillage farms???

Cambridgeshire/Lincolnshire is where most the big combinables operations are, go out into Fen country and Norfolk/Suffolk for Veg.
You'll have Dyson(ad-plants) and Munks up in Bourns country, a little further south. They'll own very little land just a big version of a contractor contract farming(farm for a set price and share any profits).

funkey_monkey · 23-09-2019 1:09pm

Can anyone provide me of a rough estimate for a new 14ft or 16ft tractor drawn cattle trailer. Would prefer for it to be on 400's for field access. Demountable would be ideal to get most use out of the thing, but not a must.
The Johnson triple purpose looks like a good job, although it only breaks down as far as a grain trailer.

Currently trying to figure out whether to get a 14ft tri-axle (and inevitably overload it on the jeep) or opt for a tractor drawn trailer.

What thickness of sheeting do most builders use for their sides?

Anyone know of where to locate decent second hand stock of the tractor trailers?

Say my name · 23-09-2019 2:45pm

White Clover wrote: »

Twas an Abbey you said I think? A 2090?
They're well done in fairness.

It's an Abbey 2100.
It'll never be as clean again..:pac:

GrasstoMilk · 23-09-2019 2:57pm

Say my name wrote: »

It's an Abbey 2100.
It'll never be as clean again..:pac:

Well wear!
Met you on the bend at Gordon's.

You're sticking with the straw bedding so I take it?

Say my name · 23-09-2019 3:07pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Well wear!
Met you on the bend at Gordon's.

You're sticking with the straw bedding so I take it?

Thanks!

Yea you nearly put me in the ditch. Ya langer..

I'll stay with it for a while still anyways. My other one was just showing a bit of age. The side slinger is still handy for the little bits of jobs when you're drawing from the yard on the road. I'll still be getting contractors for the big pile.
It should nearly do my lifetime anyways, it's the first brand new dung spreader I've ever had here.

GrasstoMilk · 23-09-2019 3:12pm

Say my name wrote: »

Thanks!

Yea you nearly put me in the ditch. Ya langer..

I'll stay with it for a while still anyways. My other one was just showing a bit of age. The side slinger is still handy for the little bits of jobs when you're drawing from the yard on the road. I'll still be getting contractors for the big pile.
It should nearly do my lifetime anyways, it's the first brand new dung spreader I've ever had here.

I was busy looking at the spreader

We still have our 2090 here, will probably rot from lack of use now

You'll have to do a video on it like the funky farmer!

Say my name · 23-09-2019 3:17pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

You'll have to do a video on it like the funky farmer!

Ehhhh no!

Panch18 · 23-09-2019 4:16pm

Say my name wrote: »

Ehhhh no!

are you dung only Say or slurry as well?

Say my name · 23-09-2019 4:47pm

Panch18 wrote: »

are you dung only Say or slurry as well?

Slatted tank at the feeding area with straw lie back.

White Clover · 23-09-2019 4:50pm

Say my name wrote: »

It's an Abbey 2100.
It'll never be as clean again..:pac:

Well wear. A fine machine.

Panch18 · 23-09-2019 5:14pm

Say my name wrote: »

Slatted tank at the feeding area with straw lie back.

the dung is great for the soil alright, there's nothing like dung for land

Say my name · 23-09-2019 5:19pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Can anyone provide me of a rough estimate for a new 14ft or 16ft tractor drawn cattle trailer. Would prefer for it to be on 400's for field access. Demountable would be ideal to get most use out of the thing, but not a must.
The Johnson triple purpose looks like a good job, although it only breaks down as far as a grain trailer.

Currently trying to figure out whether to get a 14ft tri-axle (and inevitably overload it on the jeep) or opt for a tractor drawn trailer.

What thickness of sheeting do most builders use for their sides?

Anyone know of where to locate decent second hand stock of the tractor trailers?

I feel a bit guilty for getting in front of your query.

So.... bump.

funkey_monkey · 23-09-2019 6:30pm

Say my name wrote: »

I feel a bit guilty for getting in front of your query.

So.... bump.

No need to feel guilty

Purchased machinery takes precedence over potential machinery - especially when photos are involved :pac:

wrangler · 23-09-2019 7:53pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

No need to feel guilty
Purchased machinery takes precedence over potential machinery - especially when photos are involved :pac:

Huge demand for cattle trailers on Done deal, they're never up for long if they're fresh, I sold a 20 by 8 a few years ago, it was sold in 12 hrs, the buyer told me he had missed a good few by not being quick enough and wasn't going to miss mine.......... I obviously didn't ask enough for it

funkey_monkey · 23-09-2019 10:37pm

wrangler wrote: »

Huge demand for cattle trailers on Done deal, they're never up for long if they're fresh, I sold a 20 by 8 a few years ago, it was sold in 12 hrs, the buyer told me he had missed a good few by not being quick enough and wasn't going to miss mine.......... I obviously didn't ask enough for it

Was it branded or home made? Any advice on what to avoid or look for? 20ft is too big for our needs though, especially on the roads we'll be on.

wrangler · 24-09-2019 6:56am

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Was it branded or home made? Any advice on what to avoid or look for? 20ft is too big for our needs though, especially on the roads we'll be on.

This is the trailer, there was no brakes on it but the axle was suitable for putting brake on it, A local makes them, I bought it in 2000 and sold it in 2017, I got €4000 at the time, It was always out but the steel floor was painted every two years, It wasn't an awkward trailer which I thought it would be, but naturally enough it needed a wide gate if you were going in off a narrow road.
If you have the work for a trailer they're a lifetime investment and worth spending a bit of money buying them

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funkey_monkey · 24-09-2019 9:45am

Whats the idea of the walkway on the roof? Is it used often?

Albert Johnson · 24-09-2019 10:06am

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Whats the idea of the walkway on the roof? Is it used often?

It's used for checking stock in transit, also when loading stock on to a bigger body they don't always go up to the very front of the trailer which prevents filling it fully. With the walkway someone can walk along over head and encourage the stock to move along the full length of the trailer enabling getting a full load on. I'd recommend getting a dividing gate as it allows you tighten up stock on half loads which should lead to a better towing experience. It also allows you to split cows and calves or weaker animals to prevent trampling.

wrangler · 24-09-2019 10:11am

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Whats the idea of the walkway on the roof? Is it used often?

I don't think I was ever up on the walkway, it there was only sheep in it since 2006

There was a dividing gate in it too...... you'd need it in anything over 15ft

TheBoyConor · 24-09-2019 11:45am

wrangler wrote: »

This is the trailer, there was no brakes on it but the axle was suitable for putting brake on it, A local makes them, I bought it in 2000 and sold it in 2017, I got €4000 at the time,

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i often wonder about this. If some random fella is making trailers on an ad hoc basis with no formal engineering design and certification and sans any sort of braking system, what is the position when an accident happens or someone is injured while using the trailer? Will the user be insured? Will the manufacturer have products liability cover if the trailer was faulty or dangerous by design? Will the user or manufacturer be prosecuted for supplying/using an untested or uncertified trailer?

Sounds extreme I know but as they say it is all fine and grand until something goes wrong and someone is injured and has their solicitor on a crusade for compensation and will find any and every little detail to nail you on.

I see it with car trailers especially. Things cobbled together by some fella who thought himself handy with a welder and the thing is bombing up the road at 100km/hr bouncing all over the place with ne'er a brake or spring.

Especially nowadays when most tractors are 50km/hr and everything is much larger and heavier, the risks are much higher. Obviously a boreen chop shop welding up trailers from old lorry bodies isn't going to have the means to model the trailer and test it for dangerous handling or other funny behaviour in the way the designers of a more formal engineering firm would probably do. And importantly, testing of the welds.

I remember we had a chop shop grain trailer years ago and it was leathal on the road. When laden it would get into scary harmonic surges that would keep getting worse and worse until the front axle of the tractor started lifting off of the road. And this was at 30km/hr.

I'd imagine if such a trailer was made today, sold and subsequently was found to have been the main cause of a serious accident, the owner and/or manufacturer would be ridden rock solid by the courts.

Muckit · 24-09-2019 11:51am

New trailers are plated now. Nobody should buy a new trailer, tractor or otherwise, that isn't plated.

Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

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